Yeah I find this incredibly bazaar.

This doesn’t add up. If you’ve got 1+1 not equal to 2, you’re missing something.

I think you mean bizzare? Easy mistake though

I think you mean bizarre

bizarre how i made that mistake. easy one though.

Hotel security has no radio? Cell phone? He pretended to be dead abd was just lying there??

YES! That's the official narrative and we're sticking to it. (until tomorrow when we come up with a better story)

Police officers who started searching the hotel after the shooting began didn’t know a hotel security guard had been shot “until they met him in the hallway after exiting the elevator,” Lombardo said.

Charles "Sid" Heal, a retired Los Angeles County sheriff's commander and tactical expert, said the new timeline “changes the whole perspective of the shooting."

Heal said that if police had known immediately that a guard had been shot, they would have rushed the room while the gunman was still firing. He said it seemed to signal a breakdown in communication.

“It doesn't say much for hotel security,” Heal said.

After Campos was shot, a maintenance worker appeared on the 32nd floor and “Campos prevented him from receiving any injuries,” Lombardo said.

Representatives for the Mandalay Bay hotel casino and the union representing Mandalay Bay’s security guards did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-20171009-story.html

After Campos was shot, a maintenance worker appeared on the 32nd floor and “Campos prevented him from receiving any injuries,” Lombardo said.

This is what happened. Campos was busted in position keeping a lookout before the shooting by this maintenance guy. Maintenance guy talked. That's why the story changed

Sounds about right

Something happened. You can't just totally change a timeline like this. Nobody fucks up this bad. They must be changing it to better fit their narrative. How is even the mainstream media not going ape shit crazy over this?

How does this "help" their narrative?

If anything it raises more questions and more importantly it leaves MGM wide open to hundreds of lawsuits, possibly thousands.

I don't think it helps the first narrative. Possible it maybe setting up the next one that has less holes in their story.

because they are too busy trying to impeach Trump

ENRON!!!!!

Betcha the maintenance worker was the one checking on that open “door” (windows).

Why the need for cameras in the room then?

Must have saw him before he could move into position in the room 134'or 135

It also could be how all the guns made into Paddock's room unnoticed, through Campos.

Where do people by drugs from when in Vegas ? Hotel staff

just walk the strip. you'll get offers

Yes for young people not 65 year olds that dont leave hotel , I was getting weed in Florida from hotel staff n they had coke as well but I didn’t need that

Thing is, "they" TPTB are releasing information to the public. There's no cover-up or DISINFO put out about this event

So the hotel security fucked up. This is screaming for an class action suite by the victims families against the hotel.

Some UK reporter finally mentions the obvious: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/could-las-vegas-killer-been-11316320

Crazier and crazier with each new detail???

Complete and utter BS

They tested the response to their narrative, and decided they could push it further.

No pushback from the MSM thus far.

Game on.

I knew that the story with this guy was going to change and I'm certain it changes even more to come. That's because it's not true. How convenient that he happened to stumble upon the shooters plot before it even starts. Or was he the lookout and escape plan? The swiss cheese door with the non-lethal leg injury seem like a staged crime scene. If a shooter needed a safe escort out of the building, Jesus could've made it happen.

Maintenance guy was involved? Wasn't there something about a service elevator mentioned this week? Only employees could access. I also recall a time-line posted mentioning security guard did not want to leave to receive treatment and had to be forced to leave.

Jesus Campos had a key to the service elevator

id be suspect of the swat team that breached paddocks suite as well...ddid they stage the suite or was it all dolled up waiting for them?

The elevators are all digital and have logs of their every move.

Sure would be nice to know which door had the supposed alarm...

I doubt there'd be an alarm on a guest room door. People prop those open with the security latch, for instance when they order room service and want to be able to just yell to the guy to come on in.

If it was the stairwell door, that would make more sense. Those could automatically lock in the event of a non-fire emergency - like an active shooter, to prevent that person from being able to move about freely. "IF" it's true that Paddock had planned on escaping, he could have blocked a stairwell door from closing and thus locking him on the floor.

I had read an article days ago detailing that paddock did indeed block the stsirwells and the only way to gain enter to the entire floor, was the elevator! I think that is a huge tell that the spooks rented out that floor or that whole area so they could run this entire op with less risk.

The alarm was probably on the 3rd door. The one that lets two separate rooms be combined into one. They could very well be monitoring a door that separates two guests rooms.

they gave Jesus the location of paddock. He did the hit. Who did the actual shooting? Drones?

Door wouldn't be swiss cheese necessarily. I'm just thinking out loud here but I shoot at an outdoor range. 1000's of rounds go through the boards used to hang the targets and there's some large holes but it's not swiss cheese by any means. It would take a hell of a lot to turn a door to swiss cheese. And the closer you are, the smaller the hole. So from 50 yards your talking the size of a dime. I'd assume 50 feet would be smaller.

But you can see large bullet holes in the crime scene photos, just not many of them. Definitely not 200 of them.

The large holes would be the entry or exit of multiple shots in a very close grouping. Perhaps he controlled the shots through the door instead of bump firing them?

The maintenance guy said he thought the firing was through the peephole. Maybe those holes were made with the drill.

Perhaps the guard dropped his radio in front of Paddocks room after being shot buy why if he could make it all the way to the elevator he couldn't push a button and get to receive help? He laid there for 60 minutes and was still alert enough to warn the maintenance not to go down the halkway but he could reach up to a button.

Why not push the call button in the elevator? In 60 minutes, he laid there? I’d muster every fiber of my being to crawl in that elevator and go down to safety.

In 60 minutes, he laid there?

and listened to hundreds of rounds being fired

So the officials change the story and now all of a sudden “he’s in on it”? Really, you’re not going to question why they are no changing the timeline? You’re just going to blindly accept what these people say?

So the officials change the story

they changed it or Campos changed his after his timeline started falling apart.

Wasn't this the guy who didnt know he was shot until later? How he get from hero helping police clear rooms opening doors with his key card to clinging to life bleeding out in the hallway?

Hotel might have pushed that narrative and lawyered the guard up to avoid liability and bad publicity.

Thats because he needed to call his CIA bosses first to get the story right.

Doesn't hotel security carry walkie talkies?

This. Why not radio another guard that he was shot? I feel like it’s going to come out he was an accomplice.

Fuck, I'd pull out my cell phone and just dial 911, fuck my superiors when there are hundreds of rounds of automatic fire down the hall.

He didn't even go in another room and use a phone to call the desk?

And their time line doesn't even match the scanner time stamps. Wtf?

One would assume there's an activity log for security procedures. In some places, security guards usually carry around an electronic key reader which they have to use at certain "checkpoints" throughout their shifts. On top of that, everything should be logged by both the security branch, along with the surveillance branch (in casinos, these appear to be two separate branches, so to speak).

So where are the logs which would explain how a security guard ends up on the 32nd floor without an accompanying guard? If an alarm had gone off as previous reports had stated, even something as seemingly insignificant as that would still have to be documented.

His position and the way it coincides with the shooting is one of the more troublesome concerns regarding any efforts to put the pieces of the puzzle together. Also not sure that I believe the guy from Australia, if I'm not mistaken, who claimed to be next door to Paddock, and who says there were multiple shooters (including one dead security guard).

The rabbit hole is becoming a sinkhole.

“The mentality of Las Vegas is so grossly atavistic that a really massive crime often slips by unrecognized.”

Upvote for using atavistic in a sentence

and an upvote for you sir.

Jesus the security guard is full of shit. He killed stephen.

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Can you imagine the backlash if the shooter (or even shooter accomplice) is Latino? Were the couple (mostly the lady) that were warning people that everyone was going to die aware of his plan? Maybe they're related in someway. The FBI would try to cover that up because it would cause a major race war between Rightwingers and Latinos. The border wall would get major support.

So I guess this is their excuse for saying there were no accomplices. The stairways were locked and a security guard was shot and wounded laying by the elevator before the shooting spree began.

My hunch is the first timeline was more accurate but it left open the possibility the Paddock was framed and the real killers got away, so they changed the timeline.

How do they know the exact minute if he didn't phone it in

I read transcripts and I find it odd that they lose contanct multiple times with multiple people close to the scene. Possible communications jammer?

This doesn’t add up. If you’ve got 1+1 not equal to 2, you’re missing something.

I think you mean bizzare? Easy mistake though

Maintenance guy was involved? Wasn't there something about a service elevator mentioned this week? Only employees could access. I also recall a time-line posted mentioning security guard did not want to leave to receive treatment and had to be forced to leave.

Sure would be nice to know which door had the supposed alarm...

I doubt there'd be an alarm on a guest room door. People prop those open with the security latch, for instance when they order room service and want to be able to just yell to the guy to come on in.

If it was the stairwell door, that would make more sense. Those could automatically lock in the event of a non-fire emergency - like an active shooter, to prevent that person from being able to move about freely. "IF" it's true that Paddock had planned on escaping, he could have blocked a stairwell door from closing and thus locking him on the floor.

they gave Jesus the location of paddock. He did the hit. Who did the actual shooting? Drones?

Door wouldn't be swiss cheese necessarily. I'm just thinking out loud here but I shoot at an outdoor range. 1000's of rounds go through the boards used to hang the targets and there's some large holes but it's not swiss cheese by any means. It would take a hell of a lot to turn a door to swiss cheese. And the closer you are, the smaller the hole. So from 50 yards your talking the size of a dime. I'd assume 50 feet would be smaller.