Yeah, whatever happened to that? I guess it was not seven hours. I am not sure if Trump has made another Presidential Address. Trump needs to come out and reveal all. We the People will support him.
Seriously, people act like everything has been business as usual. You can't really expect him to take office and throw thousands of government employees in jail, fire them, etc. You have to investigate each person. You have to work behind the scenes so they don't scrub everything clean.
No government will be the voice that tells the people the truth. It'll be down to the people to get the truth out to the people. Slowly at first... Then all at once. The dam will break.
Anon did well in Sunday thread I'd say... after they tried to connect her to votl (the alien larp tweeting from Pleiades), and anon replied:
"I am NOT affiliated with this twitter account, not a source. It's absolute bullshit and first time I saw it was HERE, on /pol/... just now. Believe what you will, but mark my words. Do not let people take or assume credit, off me. I come HERE. ALWAYS. FIRST."
he said it would happen the following day, not 3 weeks later...and mentioned black vans...made vague statements and the only thing that came true was Vegas.
Is it really that big of a fuck up though? I mean they changed the timeframe slightly but that could easily be explained by Campos and Mandalay Bay staff giving false statements so they don't look as liable as they could be. He pretty much gives himself an out by saying he can't be too specific because he'd be accused of larping lol.
yes because it's an on-going investigation and the cameras may show the staff unknowingly helped Paddock.
Change timeframe on major witness, 7 days later.
Again, could be because the major witness is lying, trying to protect himself
Major witness/hero doesn’t do one interview.
possibly a gag order or he's lying.
New witness, maintenance worker, comes forward a week later, gives interview.
there was always a maintenance worker there. you just here 40 different stories of the same event.
FBI reports wrong date of paddocks check-in.
FBI reports correct day of room that he paid for, but not the room he was comped. FBI would have been given this information by the hotel so it's very possible the hotel is attempting to cover this up or at least lessen the blow it would do in the courts
Witness reports he was occupant of room #134, recants his claim days later.
People lie for attention. Happens all the time.
Suspect, clean history, mentally and criminally.
Mentally? His father was a confirmed psychopath, very possible he inherited the disease as well. GF said he would in middle of night screaming. Prostitute said he frequently had dark thoughts (could be lying but neither of us know) and an autopsy wouldn't be able to confirm if he had some kind of mental illness as far as I know.
No motive.
He was nuts, didn't need a motive.
Room key used as paddocks car left the property.
Prostitute possibly. Not a big stretch.
Hundreds of eyewitness claims that counter main narrative.
Eyewitnesses are notoriously terrible at remembering details. There are also videos out there of people saying the shooting was coming from a window at the MB.
Hotel even questioning main narrative.
If their staff unknowingly helped Paddock, they'd for sure want to reduce the damage they'd take in the courts. Especially if they were informed there was a shooter on the 32nd floor and did not report it immediately. That's a lot of liability.
I could be on board with a couple of your answers but they (FBI/LVMPD) haven’t provided any evidence of prostitute or even paddock. Just a couple segments of camera footage, not a big deal, he was there for 6-7 days, I’m sure they have something that wouldn’t effect investigations. Prostitute even said they drank all night and Steve Wynn said that Stephen and girlfriend didn’t drink alcohol.
As far as evidence of mental illness there really isn’t anything. I haven’t heard about night terrors but everyone who knows paddock including Vegas says he was a rational person. Father a psycho, yes, but that doesn’t tell me much without evidence of Stephen being even a little psycho.
At the very least the story should be somewhat straight which it is not, doesn’t implicate any conspiracy but it sure gives fire to them.
This is kind of kick ass if true and being alive getting to witness the downfall of many players is exciting to say the least. Hope for the best fellas.
Give me the name and number of the funeral home and the person in charge of the service you attended. I will call that person, I'm serious. If you are serious you will give me the contact. If you don't then you are a joke.
Why not leave this to adults. Evidently you've never heard of privacy policies, especially in this, the deadliest shooting in American history.
I'm here trying to find out who killed my good friend, the "official story" has no credibility whatsoever.
Retards like you who claim it was a hoax do nothing to help find the actual truth. It's like you and the flat Earth morons are in a competition to see who can truly be the world's biggest idiot.
I've already responded to your other comment about showing proof, all you need to do is get your mom's permission to fly to Las Vegas to see it. Have her drop you off at the airport in her minivan and maybe she'll give you 20 bucks to buy her a nice souvenir shot glass. She can use that shot glass to drink away her sadness over having such a miserable failure of a child.
The rule is "pics or it didn't happen". In other words, don't post a claim that you "know someone" and shout about it not being a hoax while you're a complete rando stranger on reddit and expect that to be evidence.
I met all kinds of that back when Sandy Hook happened.
It's a dismissive way of attacking someone without having to use logic or argument. Just like how the CIA coined 'conspiracy theory' to attack anyone who doesn't believe their lies.
Except every other 4Chan anon constantly said something would happen a certain day and nothing came from it. Why this sub continues to believe anonymous 4chan LARPers while dismissing actual journalists I’ll never understand.
while dismissing actual journalists I’ll never understand.
This is pretty sad. I wonder what kind of tiny bubble of reality you must inhabit where you can't imagine any reason why people distrust, in your words, "actual journalists." Or, perhaps you are aware of the multitude of scandals involving your "actual journalists" but you choose to retain that cognitive dissonance -- surely that must be uncomfortable?
I think the real answer, of course, is in your own words: "I'll never understand." It's not that you can't understand, it's that you'll never understand, because you refuse to.
So you’re telling me that random anonymous sources from 4chan who have proven to be wrong time and time again are more credible than actual journalists? Please explain how so I’m genuinely curious. Is it because the LARPers are telling you what you want to hear?
So you’re telling me that random anonymous sources from 4chan who have proven to be wrong time and time again are more credible than actual journalists?
I love this. The most popular tactic for disinfo agents to attempt to discredit someone or something is to take something that they said, and then alter it until they are able to reframe it into something they can try to argue against. Usually, however, they don't shine a spotlight on their dishonest tactics like you have here. Thank you for making this ultra simple.
To answer your question: No, that is not what I said.
Its also a disinformation tactic to divert the topic at hand (4chan LARPs).
You seem well versed in disinformation tactics. You either are very good at detecting them and fail to see the irony oozing from your actions, or hmmmm.
What makes me wonder is the decision to jump on the opportunity to attack "actual journalism". Clearly OP is not talking about the corrupt journalism you are bringing up - hence the phrase "actual journalism". Yet here you are rushing in to reinforce the idea of journalism not being trustworthy to divert the topic from 4chan LARPs.
What makes me wonder is the decision to jump on the opportunity to attack "actual journalism". Clearly OP is not talking about the corrupt journalism you are bringing up - hence the phrase "actual journalism".
Might I ask how you separate your "actual journalists" from your "corrupt journalists?" Does it involve some kind of after-the-fact determination? If so, at what point do you think it's fair to start scrutinizing what you're being told before it's revealed to be a lie? Or do you just give everyone a free pass until they are shown with egg in their face? What about the organizations that empower and protect these "corrupt journalists" and oftentimes continue to employ them despite a proven history of ethical violations? Is a journalist (perhaps from pressure from their corporate overlords) who maintains a corporate agenda and 'toes the line' an "actual journalist" or a "corrupt journalist?" If the latter, might it be fair to speculate that this list of "corrupt journalists" dwarfs the list of "actual journalists?"
Yet here you are rushing in to reinforce the idea of journalism not being trustworthy to divert the topic from 4chan LARPs.
I'm just going to point out something that requires very little critical thinking.
First link makes kind of crazy attempt to explain why 11 people are going to be fired for leaking.
Unironically, they don't point out or realize that they are indeed leaking.
So if this is an approved leak (?), why can't they just say who they are? If it's not an approved leak, then they are just as guilty.
Either way, that you'd accept this as true, when you have no way to verify, considering they are doing the very thing they claim others are getting fired for doing..
I didn't claim that this one is true. The jury is still out on MegaAnon.
There is a handful that can be verified, albeit not very easily. HLI, being the most notable example. A couple of the FBIanon posts were remarkably accurate too, but I think there were plenty of disinfo copy-cats as well.
And the point, that they're sitting there claiming that people are going to get fired for leaking, while they're actually leaking (provided it's not some 12 year old with an imagination).. what fucking sense does that make?
4Chan is the greatest misinformation tool there is, and it's the source of 75% or more of the most bat shit theories you'll see on here.. when we know there's people being paid to spread fake info and push agendas/narratives, why do any of you not realize that's the perfect place for them to do it!
Broken clock, right twice a day.. still wrong 86,398 seconds per day.
I wasn't clear about your point before, but I see what you're saying now.
I'm not sure if MegaAnon is supposed to be an approved leak or whether she is sufficiently trusted that she can disclose those things as responsibly as she seems to try, or whether she is just an intriguing LARPer. Again, for me, the Jury is still out on that.
4Chan is the greatest misinformation tool there is
I would say Facebook and Reddit are close behind - if not ahead at times.
why do any of you not realize that's the perfect place for them to do it!
Of course, it is. Who would dispute that an anonymous forum with virtually no taboos is a splendid place to seed misinformation or to troll?
But again, if you read the material that is verifiable insider information, the benefits of learning those things far outway the energy that was wasted on weeding through misinformation. That's my experience at least.
I don't know about it being worth the effort.. and Reddit is behind, that's why you don't see such blatant bullshit run rampant here. Yes, if someone gets caught lying or whatever, they can just make another account.. but at the same time, the only people that would actually bother are the people actually trying to spread propaganda.
Facebook is iffy, sure people can share bullshit, but you can also call them out on their bullshit, it's not like they're going to make a new account, add 100+ friends, upload all the photos again, etc..
Twitter is an absolute gold mine off bots and people paid to push a narrative.. I'm feeling tired and lazy or I'd post evidence where this guy found a Russian propagandist, and he thought the last 8 digits in the username were auto generated, but actually referenced numbers and a year that's related directly to important Russian history (and he didn't even realize it)..
The phone story to finally break and get the last of the swamp out of the WH, I can't believe their are so many obama hold overs.. so much 'trying to work with the other side' when historically the 'other side' just fires everyone and brings in their own people... their was lots of controversy back in the clinton days because they extended that policy even outside of the WH and into several executive organizations, (travel office most famously)
This all makes sense to me, except for using Weinstein as a distraction. How coud they be that stupid? The main sticking point for the genral public in believing any of these conspiracies is that they just don't believe so many people could know about such awful things and yet say nothing, for it to not come out. And yet Weinstein is proof that that has and does happen, it's proof of how these power structures operate, and how a few despicable people can get away with heinous crimes while a whole boatload of other people know, and hate it, yet say absolutely nothing.
So now everytime someone feels suspicious about some of these things not adding up with whatever it is that 'the swamp' is lying about, where they used to be able to shrug it off and say 'naaa, too many people would have to know, someone would've said something' now they'll remember, or be reminded of, Weinstein and how major political players, the media, and hundreds of other people knew, covered up, said nothing.
It also emboldens people to come forward about other moguls, it emboldens people to ask about pedophilia, people aren't going to forget pizzagate, and anytime there's an opportunity to show people how it's real and how it's possible, people will be there ready to ride on the back of a scandal like Weinstein and expose it to as many as possible.
So they must be really desperate or just really dumb to do this. I wonder what actually happened in Vegas and what went wrong with their plan. Thank god it did go wrong. These people are the most evil of all evil. And they're not that bright either, they seem to have kept secrets mainly due to the fact that most people are just too decent to be able to conceive that other human beings could be so depraved.
Wait a minute. How did Las Vegas go wrong? A shit ton of people got murdered. That was the goal of the shooter - whoever it was. That seemed like a terror event (likely false flag, but a terror event all the same) that went exactly as planned, no?
No dirty bomb, no nuke. Just a devastating detonation that had the capacity to level have a flat desert city and conveniently take out thousands of people corralled into a single proximity via the hysteria ensued through "active shooter" reports and "shots fired".
Ok so 'paddock' was an undercover FBI agent, and the operation was a setup to try to entrap and ensnare some ISIS people. (pst, hey kid.. want to bomb a federal building?) type stuff. well... isis has figured out how the FBI works, staging their own attacks to stop so they can be the hero.. All the guns where part of a weapons deal like fast and furious that was connected with a larger plot to blow up some bombs. well.. instead of sticking around to get arrested/blamed for the whole thing, supposedly the ISIS people murdered the FBI agent, opened fire on the crowd below, then fled... the shooting wasn't supposed to happen as it did.. it was supposed to be a gun deal followed by bombings... but isis had no plans to really bomb us.. they just let the FBI believe so to get their undercover agent to go along with the set up long enough to turn on him and humiliate the FBI. This is what I've been able to piece together so far from megaanon and the facts discovered so far. it makes more sense than the official narative even if it does sound slightly bonkers.
When this ends, it will only benefit Trump and the government, not the public in any sense... What megaAnon says might be true, or it might be a bunch of people trying to give us fake answers to fake problems. Who the fuck knows
"... I'm trying to convey the broadness and scope of what will be publicly disclosed. My only point is that after it's all over, no one will be able to turn away from the truth. The masses will never again be able to claim with 100% certainty that 9/11 DIDN'T have inside, US sponsored and funded, department/agency coordination, allocated resources and assistance. No one will EVER be able to NOT believe that our own fucking agencies and departments and former admins. didn't play a huge role in shit like JFK, OKC, 9/11, ISIS, Pizza, Vegas, etc. They won't be able to turn a blind eye to what they consider "conspiracy theories", today simply because the MSM told them to."
and
"The goal is that when it's all said and done, there will be no room for question, when it comes to the people. He won't have to disclose shit like 9/11, OKC, Vegas, Voter Fraud, Russia hacks or collusion, elections rigging, etc. specifically. When he's done, it will be a literal "mic drop" on the world's stage and you will no one ever again, will have the ability to question who's responsible for, involved coordinating, etc. ANYTHING that has ever happened and been considered a "conspiracy theory", ever again. When he's done, the entire world will just KNOW IT ALL. It really is THAT all-encompassing. Like Trump says, "you'll see". It just has to happen. We cannot be derailed. Ever again."
I'd love to believe that, but it seems way too big. I mean in time, if we are walked to it. But, then again, if they have the information, this could turn this country, and world around. Perhaps they are going to go for it. The timing of Vegas and Harvey is too odd. And Vegas itself is too odd. Like another mistake ridden 911. But we learned from 911, deep state probably too, but they didn't think Hillary would lose. I think they got blindsided.
Not that I wanna suggest that we previously used to all agree here on this sub, far from it, but it seems as though the average opinion (as represented by early comments and early vote counts) suddenly shifted a great deal towards the mainstream, doesn't it?
The last one from FBIanon I believe totally came true. It's why everyone hangs on these. Because in between the bullshit larping there are some real gems posted.
There is no source beyond a stupid screen cap from a pol thread that these mental midgets will twist and spin so that they can validate all the time wasted in that cesspool of a board
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Considering Ronan Farrow's been working on the HW story for almost a year and NBC tried to kill it, I'm finding the "it's a distraction" angle hard to believe, at least intentionally.
It's certainly possible the people who control media have latched on to HW as the "big story" to push Vegas away "in the moment," but it doesn't feel like a co-ordinated thing.
Could Ronan Farrow actually be the real deal? First Woody Allen, now Harvey Weinstein?
There is no source beyond a stupid screen cap from a pol thread that these mental midgets will twist and spin so that they can validate all the time wasted in that cesspool of a board
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1 nwurm 2017-10-13
Bump bump bump
1 throwaway50955932 2017-10-13
or larp larp larp
let's have a read, shall we?
1 ganooosh 2017-10-13
The official narrative is basically a larp.
1 SgtBananaGrabber 2017-10-13
Is this the storm what's coming then ?
1 pby1000 2017-10-13
Let's hope!
1 ToddWhiskey 2017-10-13
Time will tell.
1 qrayzhd 2017-10-13
We should only have to wait until Monday to find out, that is if Hannity was referring to T-7 days and not weeks...
1 pby1000 2017-10-13
Yeah, whatever happened to that? I guess it was not seven hours. I am not sure if Trump has made another Presidential Address. Trump needs to come out and reveal all. We the People will support him.
1 downisupp 2017-10-13
day of judgement :D and not the dooms day porn ala day of judgement..
1 ragegenx 2017-10-13
You guys keep waiting for the donald to do something...and waiting.
1 OwlYourBaseBelong2Us 2017-10-13
We have been blessed with many happenings that are opening people's eyes to the dark underbelly of our government. He's doing well imho.
1 Monk_of_Trump 2017-10-13
Seriously, people act like everything has been business as usual. You can't really expect him to take office and throw thousands of government employees in jail, fire them, etc. You have to investigate each person. You have to work behind the scenes so they don't scrub everything clean.
1 Ieuan1996 2017-10-13
No government will be the voice that tells the people the truth. It'll be down to the people to get the truth out to the people. Slowly at first... Then all at once. The dam will break.
1 ragegenx 2017-10-13
I hope you are right. I worry that we keep waiting for the dam to break but it will be too late
1 no1113 2017-10-13
We need to stop waiting and start actively taking part in the breaking of that dam then. Forget waiting.
1 creepin-it-real 2017-10-13
NAO!
1 pby1000 2017-10-13
Great! Nobody tell the Illuminati.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-13
More, more, we want more!
1 ToddWhiskey 2017-10-13
Edited the post with some "more"
1 onelove1979 2017-10-13
Such a shame he needs to waste time defending himself
1 ToddWhiskey 2017-10-13
Anon did well in Sunday thread I'd say... after they tried to connect her to votl (the alien larp tweeting from Pleiades), and anon replied:
1 ablackguy22 2017-10-13
This just comes off as a Trump fanboy desperately clinging to reality and wanting to blame the (((jews))) for everything.
1 OneSantos 2017-10-13
Sounds like 99% of this subreddit then.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-13
Back in September megaanon warned us about Vegas and then Vegas happened
1 ablackguy22 2017-10-13
he said it would happen the following day, not 3 weeks later...and mentioned black vans...made vague statements and the only thing that came true was Vegas.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-13
He also told us he can’t be 100% about the timing, every time
1 geo-gee 2017-10-13
That’s not a big deal?
The coincidence of LV being a mega fuck up isn’t a big deal ether?
Come on dude.
I like to call your logic “irrationally rational”.
1 ablackguy22 2017-10-13
Is it really that big of a fuck up though? I mean they changed the timeframe slightly but that could easily be explained by Campos and Mandalay Bay staff giving false statements so they don't look as liable as they could be. He pretty much gives himself an out by saying he can't be too specific because he'd be accused of larping lol.
1 geo-gee 2017-10-13
No camera footage of paddock whatsoever.
Change timeframe on major witness.
Major witness/hero doesn’t do one interview.
New witness, maintenance worker, comes forward a week later, gives interview.
FBI reports wrong date of paddocks check-in.
Witness reports he was occupant of room #134, recants his claim days later.
Suspect, clean history, mentally and criminally.
No motive.
Hundreds of eyewitness claims that counter main narrative.
Hotel even questioning main narrative.
This by no means resembles any other major US tragedy. It was behaving oddly within 24 hrs of the incident.
1 ToddWhiskey 2017-10-13
In other words: sloppy.
1 ablackguy22 2017-10-13
yes because it's an on-going investigation and the cameras may show the staff unknowingly helped Paddock.
Again, could be because the major witness is lying, trying to protect himself
possibly a gag order or he's lying.
there was always a maintenance worker there. you just here 40 different stories of the same event.
FBI reports correct day of room that he paid for, but not the room he was comped. FBI would have been given this information by the hotel so it's very possible the hotel is attempting to cover this up or at least lessen the blow it would do in the courts
People lie for attention. Happens all the time.
Mentally? His father was a confirmed psychopath, very possible he inherited the disease as well. GF said he would in middle of night screaming. Prostitute said he frequently had dark thoughts (could be lying but neither of us know) and an autopsy wouldn't be able to confirm if he had some kind of mental illness as far as I know.
He was nuts, didn't need a motive.
Prostitute possibly. Not a big stretch.
Eyewitnesses are notoriously terrible at remembering details. There are also videos out there of people saying the shooting was coming from a window at the MB.
If their staff unknowingly helped Paddock, they'd for sure want to reduce the damage they'd take in the courts. Especially if they were informed there was a shooter on the 32nd floor and did not report it immediately. That's a lot of liability.
1 geo-gee 2017-10-13
I appreciate you addressing each point.
I could be on board with a couple of your answers but they (FBI/LVMPD) haven’t provided any evidence of prostitute or even paddock. Just a couple segments of camera footage, not a big deal, he was there for 6-7 days, I’m sure they have something that wouldn’t effect investigations. Prostitute even said they drank all night and Steve Wynn said that Stephen and girlfriend didn’t drink alcohol.
As far as evidence of mental illness there really isn’t anything. I haven’t heard about night terrors but everyone who knows paddock including Vegas says he was a rational person. Father a psycho, yes, but that doesn’t tell me much without evidence of Stephen being even a little psycho.
At the very least the story should be somewhat straight which it is not, doesn’t implicate any conspiracy but it sure gives fire to them.
1 TheRisenOsiris 2017-10-13
That's incredibly lazy. Nuts or not, rational or not; people always have some sort of motive.
1 blufr0g 2017-10-13
Didn’t “Paddock” supposedly book a room overlooking Lollapalooza 3 weeks prior?
1 niakarad 2017-10-13
lollapalooza was in chicago though
1 2genders--2scoops 2017-10-13
-john is not meganon
1 BiggMuffy 2017-10-13
This is YUGGGEEEEE
1 heymikeyp 2017-10-13
This ties in with exactly what my gut has been telling me in this post I described here https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/75r6k6/getting_the_feeling_the_harvey_weinstein_story_is/
This is kind of kick ass if true and being alive getting to witness the downfall of many players is exciting to say the least. Hope for the best fellas.
1 ToddWhiskey 2017-10-13
yup
1 letsgetphysical__ 2017-10-13
1 Sluts_Love_Me 2017-10-13
The funeral I went to last week proves you are 100% false.
Quit being a retard.
1 letsgetphysical__ 2017-10-13
Give me the name and number of the funeral home and the person in charge of the service you attended. I will call that person, I'm serious. If you are serious you will give me the contact. If you don't then you are a joke.
1 HISNAMEWASSETHROGAN 2017-10-13
You're a fucking jabroni
1 letsgetphysical__ 2017-10-13
You're a fucking zamboni.
1 the__rev 2017-10-13
I'm fucking a minestrone.
1 TheRisenOsiris 2017-10-13
I hope you let it cool.
1 Sluts_Love_Me 2017-10-13
Haha your teenage angst is showing , kiddo.
Why not leave this to adults. Evidently you've never heard of privacy policies, especially in this, the deadliest shooting in American history.
I'm here trying to find out who killed my good friend, the "official story" has no credibility whatsoever.
Retards like you who claim it was a hoax do nothing to help find the actual truth. It's like you and the flat Earth morons are in a competition to see who can truly be the world's biggest idiot.
I've already responded to your other comment about showing proof, all you need to do is get your mom's permission to fly to Las Vegas to see it. Have her drop you off at the airport in her minivan and maybe she'll give you 20 bucks to buy her a nice souvenir shot glass. She can use that shot glass to drink away her sadness over having such a miserable failure of a child.
1 letsgetphysical__ 2017-10-13
So you're a joker after all. And I'm older than your father.
1 Sluts_Love_Me 2017-10-13
No, you've made it perfectly obvious to everyone you're just another obnoxious child looking for the attention you never got at home.
1 letsgetphysical__ 2017-10-13
Anyone with a "good friend" who just died would not act the way you do. You're the troll.
1 ABrilliantDisaster 2017-10-13
The rule is "pics or it didn't happen". In other words, don't post a claim that you "know someone" and shout about it not being a hoax while you're a complete rando stranger on reddit and expect that to be evidence.
I met all kinds of that back when Sandy Hook happened.
1 Globie2017 2017-10-13
The more posts this account makes, the more certain I am that it's a LARP.
1 FORGOT123456 2017-10-13
what is a LARP in this context?
1 Globie2017 2017-10-13
Live action role play.
Someone is just playing the role of a Whitehouse insider, for the fun of it.
1 NONAMEBLANKFACE 2017-10-13
It's a dismissive way of attacking someone without having to use logic or argument. Just like how the CIA coined 'conspiracy theory' to attack anyone who doesn't believe their lies.
1 el_fuego91 2017-10-13
Except every other 4Chan anon constantly said something would happen a certain day and nothing came from it. Why this sub continues to believe anonymous 4chan LARPers while dismissing actual journalists I’ll never understand.
1 NONAMEBLANKFACE 2017-10-13
This is pretty sad. I wonder what kind of tiny bubble of reality you must inhabit where you can't imagine any reason why people distrust, in your words, "actual journalists." Or, perhaps you are aware of the multitude of scandals involving your "actual journalists" but you choose to retain that cognitive dissonance -- surely that must be uncomfortable?
I think the real answer, of course, is in your own words: "I'll never understand." It's not that you can't understand, it's that you'll never understand, because you refuse to.
1 el_fuego91 2017-10-13
So you’re telling me that random anonymous sources from 4chan who have proven to be wrong time and time again are more credible than actual journalists? Please explain how so I’m genuinely curious. Is it because the LARPers are telling you what you want to hear?
1 pinko_zinko 2017-10-13
How do we know you don't LARP, and aren't LARP'ing as an anti-LARP?
What if you are arguing with a LARPer?
Where does this get us?
1 deprod 2017-10-13
Don't LARP on me.
1 NONAMEBLANKFACE 2017-10-13
I love this. The most popular tactic for disinfo agents to attempt to discredit someone or something is to take something that they said, and then alter it until they are able to reframe it into something they can try to argue against. Usually, however, they don't shine a spotlight on their dishonest tactics like you have here. Thank you for making this ultra simple.
To answer your question: No, that is not what I said.
1 vxk1kx0v 2017-10-13
Its also a disinformation tactic to divert the topic at hand (4chan LARPs).
You seem well versed in disinformation tactics. You either are very good at detecting them and fail to see the irony oozing from your actions, or hmmmm.
What makes me wonder is the decision to jump on the opportunity to attack "actual journalism". Clearly OP is not talking about the corrupt journalism you are bringing up - hence the phrase "actual journalism". Yet here you are rushing in to reinforce the idea of journalism not being trustworthy to divert the topic from 4chan LARPs.
1 NONAMEBLANKFACE 2017-10-13
Interesting perspective.
Might I ask how you separate your "actual journalists" from your "corrupt journalists?" Does it involve some kind of after-the-fact determination? If so, at what point do you think it's fair to start scrutinizing what you're being told before it's revealed to be a lie? Or do you just give everyone a free pass until they are shown with egg in their face? What about the organizations that empower and protect these "corrupt journalists" and oftentimes continue to employ them despite a proven history of ethical violations? Is a journalist (perhaps from pressure from their corporate overlords) who maintains a corporate agenda and 'toes the line' an "actual journalist" or a "corrupt journalist?" If the latter, might it be fair to speculate that this list of "corrupt journalists" dwarfs the list of "actual journalists?"
Not at all.
1 haveyouseenmymarble 2017-10-13
Because the ones that turn out to be real offer great enough insight to make it worthwhile having trudged through meaningless LARP after LARP.
Trust (entertain their ideas) but VERIFY! It's as true for 4chan as it is true for everything else.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-10-13
I'm just going to point out something that requires very little critical thinking.
First link makes kind of crazy attempt to explain why 11 people are going to be fired for leaking.
Unironically, they don't point out or realize that they are indeed leaking.
So if this is an approved leak (?), why can't they just say who they are? If it's not an approved leak, then they are just as guilty.
Either way, that you'd accept this as true, when you have no way to verify, considering they are doing the very thing they claim others are getting fired for doing..
1 haveyouseenmymarble 2017-10-13
I didn't claim that this one is true. The jury is still out on MegaAnon.
There is a handful that can be verified, albeit not very easily. HLI, being the most notable example. A couple of the FBIanon posts were remarkably accurate too, but I think there were plenty of disinfo copy-cats as well.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-10-13
And the point, that they're sitting there claiming that people are going to get fired for leaking, while they're actually leaking (provided it's not some 12 year old with an imagination).. what fucking sense does that make?
4Chan is the greatest misinformation tool there is, and it's the source of 75% or more of the most bat shit theories you'll see on here.. when we know there's people being paid to spread fake info and push agendas/narratives, why do any of you not realize that's the perfect place for them to do it!
Broken clock, right twice a day.. still wrong 86,398 seconds per day.
1 haveyouseenmymarble 2017-10-13
I wasn't clear about your point before, but I see what you're saying now.
I'm not sure if MegaAnon is supposed to be an approved leak or whether she is sufficiently trusted that she can disclose those things as responsibly as she seems to try, or whether she is just an intriguing LARPer. Again, for me, the Jury is still out on that.
I would say Facebook and Reddit are close behind - if not ahead at times.
Of course, it is. Who would dispute that an anonymous forum with virtually no taboos is a splendid place to seed misinformation or to troll?
But again, if you read the material that is verifiable insider information, the benefits of learning those things far outway the energy that was wasted on weeding through misinformation. That's my experience at least.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-10-13
I don't know about it being worth the effort.. and Reddit is behind, that's why you don't see such blatant bullshit run rampant here. Yes, if someone gets caught lying or whatever, they can just make another account.. but at the same time, the only people that would actually bother are the people actually trying to spread propaganda.
Facebook is iffy, sure people can share bullshit, but you can also call them out on their bullshit, it's not like they're going to make a new account, add 100+ friends, upload all the photos again, etc..
Twitter is an absolute gold mine off bots and people paid to push a narrative.. I'm feeling tired and lazy or I'd post evidence where this guy found a Russian propagandist, and he thought the last 8 digits in the username were auto generated, but actually referenced numbers and a year that's related directly to important Russian history (and he didn't even realize it)..
1 Trixxius 2017-10-13
Fake.. basically he's calling mega out as a fake wh rep
1 Stron23 2017-10-13
MegaAnon is conspiracy fan fiction
1 ToddWhiskey 2017-10-13
Anon gave very specific information this time so will see pretty quickly IMO
1 JasonTakesMAGAtten 2017-10-13
I am looking for that Fox News buyout mainly.
1 zenerbufen 2017-10-13
The phone story to finally break and get the last of the swamp out of the WH, I can't believe their are so many obama hold overs.. so much 'trying to work with the other side' when historically the 'other side' just fires everyone and brings in their own people... their was lots of controversy back in the clinton days because they extended that policy even outside of the WH and into several executive organizations, (travel office most famously)
1 dizzywright 2017-10-13
Ur a lil bitch, look a urself
1 KittyHasABeard 2017-10-13
This all makes sense to me, except for using Weinstein as a distraction. How coud they be that stupid? The main sticking point for the genral public in believing any of these conspiracies is that they just don't believe so many people could know about such awful things and yet say nothing, for it to not come out. And yet Weinstein is proof that that has and does happen, it's proof of how these power structures operate, and how a few despicable people can get away with heinous crimes while a whole boatload of other people know, and hate it, yet say absolutely nothing.
So now everytime someone feels suspicious about some of these things not adding up with whatever it is that 'the swamp' is lying about, where they used to be able to shrug it off and say 'naaa, too many people would have to know, someone would've said something' now they'll remember, or be reminded of, Weinstein and how major political players, the media, and hundreds of other people knew, covered up, said nothing.
It also emboldens people to come forward about other moguls, it emboldens people to ask about pedophilia, people aren't going to forget pizzagate, and anytime there's an opportunity to show people how it's real and how it's possible, people will be there ready to ride on the back of a scandal like Weinstein and expose it to as many as possible.
So they must be really desperate or just really dumb to do this. I wonder what actually happened in Vegas and what went wrong with their plan. Thank god it did go wrong. These people are the most evil of all evil. And they're not that bright either, they seem to have kept secrets mainly due to the fact that most people are just too decent to be able to conceive that other human beings could be so depraved.
1 ToddWhiskey 2017-10-13
or both
1 cryptotrillionaire 2017-10-13
They did run Hillary after all.
1 no1113 2017-10-13
Wait a minute. How did Las Vegas go wrong? A shit ton of people got murdered. That was the goal of the shooter - whoever it was. That seemed like a terror event (likely false flag, but a terror event all the same) that went exactly as planned, no?
1 ToddWhiskey 2017-10-13
Have you read all the links, and the initial screencap from last week? Anon said that a much bigger attack was planned, and was averted:
1 no1113 2017-10-13
Very interesting. No, I hadn't been aware of that before. Thank you for that information.
1 ToddWhiskey 2017-10-13
I only know what she said in the posts, of you re-read them, you can see that anon hinted to "blackwater" anon, I found soume sources here and here.
1 no1113 2017-10-13
Weird, weird shit, man.
1 no1113 2017-10-13
Weird, weird shit, man. For sure.
1 zenerbufen 2017-10-13
Ok so 'paddock' was an undercover FBI agent, and the operation was a setup to try to entrap and ensnare some ISIS people. (pst, hey kid.. want to bomb a federal building?) type stuff. well... isis has figured out how the FBI works, staging their own attacks to stop so they can be the hero.. All the guns where part of a weapons deal like fast and furious that was connected with a larger plot to blow up some bombs. well.. instead of sticking around to get arrested/blamed for the whole thing, supposedly the ISIS people murdered the FBI agent, opened fire on the crowd below, then fled... the shooting wasn't supposed to happen as it did.. it was supposed to be a gun deal followed by bombings... but isis had no plans to really bomb us.. they just let the FBI believe so to get their undercover agent to go along with the set up long enough to turn on him and humiliate the FBI. This is what I've been able to piece together so far from megaanon and the facts discovered so far. it makes more sense than the official narative even if it does sound slightly bonkers.
1 no1113 2017-10-13
I’m not sure what to go with at this point, but that’s definitely interesting. Thanks or the take.
1 JamieRoy 2017-10-13
Unless they thought project Veritas had the goods after they said they had NYT info
1 behold-a-pale-Evan 2017-10-13
They used the Beatles as a distraction for JFK
1 Peristeri91 2017-10-13
When this ends, it will only benefit Trump and the government, not the public in any sense... What megaAnon says might be true, or it might be a bunch of people trying to give us fake answers to fake problems. Who the fuck knows
1 ToddWhiskey 2017-10-13
Anon set a very high bar for "herself" indeed:
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1 Peristeri91 2017-10-13
I just watched Trump live and he said nothing. I don't know if it has to do with anything, I'm just saying
1 JasonTakesMAGAtten 2017-10-13
The Tax Reform rally is not a Presidential Address to the Nation.
1 Peristeri91 2017-10-13
Oh, thanks, I just stumbled upon it, didn't know if it had to do anything with the Las Vegas incident
1 pilgrimboy 2017-10-13
If this is all true, then I just wonder what they are waiting for. What has to be lined up for the reveal?
1 TheRisenOsiris 2017-10-13
It would need to be bullet proof.
1 ToddWhiskey 2017-10-13
Anon [said((https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/144542510/#q144572866):
1 pilgrimboy 2017-10-13
If he is waiting for a lull in the storm, then he should stop whipping up distractions.
1 ToddWhiskey 2017-10-13
The jury is still out on MegaAnon, but it's not easy to discuss this material with users who have not read all info provided by the anon...
1 ItsAboutSharing 2017-10-13
I'd love to believe that, but it seems way too big. I mean in time, if we are walked to it. But, then again, if they have the information, this could turn this country, and world around. Perhaps they are going to go for it. The timing of Vegas and Harvey is too odd. And Vegas itself is too odd. Like another mistake ridden 911. But we learned from 911, deep state probably too, but they didn't think Hillary would lose. I think they got blindsided.
1 spezisacuk 2017-10-13
Lot's is shills in this one, makes you wonder.
1 haveyouseenmymarble 2017-10-13
The votes are all fucky too.
Not that I wanna suggest that we previously used to all agree here on this sub, far from it, but it seems as though the average opinion (as represented by early comments and early vote counts) suddenly shifted a great deal towards the mainstream, doesn't it?
1 ToddWhiskey 2017-10-13
Haha, this was fun to watch indeed...
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1 Imp0924 2017-10-13
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1 Ieuan1996 2017-10-13
The official narrative is a larp. At least this one is entertaining
1 vxk1kx0v 2017-10-13
At least the people pushing the narrative put their identity out there.
Anons with too much time on their hand can create a reality with no accountability that gets shared by those thirsty for political fiction.
1 TheRedsAreComing 2017-10-13
Fucking LARP. Weinstein is in Arizona not Europe, sorry. KYS anon.
1 TheRisenOsiris 2017-10-13
He's only in Arizona because he was stopped from leaving the country.
1 TheRedsAreComing 2017-10-13
Right, but the point is the OP is a liar. He knows this master plan but didn't see that bit coming? Yeah, okay.
1 atavisticbeast 2017-10-13
Can anyone give me a single example of a 4chan anon thread that came true?
1 JasonTakesMAGAtten 2017-10-13
The last one from FBIanon I believe totally came true. It's why everyone hangs on these. Because in between the bullshit larping there are some real gems posted.
1 atavisticbeast 2017-10-13
Source? My recollection of FBIAnon is that it was all super vague nostradamus-tier predictions, and the few specific ones never came true.
1 vxk1kx0v 2017-10-13
There is no source beyond a stupid screen cap from a pol thread that these mental midgets will twist and spin so that they can validate all the time wasted in that cesspool of a board
1 mokeydokey111 2017-10-13
aren't you kinda doing the same thing here though?
1 cockblockbyjesus 2017-10-13
Sizable if undeniable
1 4891x 2017-10-13
I immediately said that Paddock is an art project.
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1 IanPhlegming 2017-10-13
Considering Ronan Farrow's been working on the HW story for almost a year and NBC tried to kill it, I'm finding the "it's a distraction" angle hard to believe, at least intentionally.
It's certainly possible the people who control media have latched on to HW as the "big story" to push Vegas away "in the moment," but it doesn't feel like a co-ordinated thing.
Could Ronan Farrow actually be the real deal? First Woody Allen, now Harvey Weinstein?
1 4891x 2017-10-13
I immediately say that Paddock is an art project. (https://np.redd.it/753oo1)
1 druucifer 2017-10-13
Iran deal officially cut. Part 1 is true.
1 yigsstarhouse 2017-10-13
Thank you OP for putting those links together, very handy for those of us that have been a little busy but follow it as a norm.
1 ToddWhiskey 2017-10-13
Turbulent times indeed :)
1 atavisticbeast 2017-10-13
Source? My recollection of FBIAnon is that it was all super vague nostradamus-tier predictions, and the few specific ones never came true.
1 vxk1kx0v 2017-10-13
There is no source beyond a stupid screen cap from a pol thread that these mental midgets will twist and spin so that they can validate all the time wasted in that cesspool of a board