Do we know less about Vegas now, than we did a week ago?

189  2017-10-13 by Beneficial1

No pics of Campos, and he was a no show , literally disappeared from the Hannity segment.

We know Jack shit about paddock. Just a psycho-rant from his 'brother' is the only background we have from a family member.

Sheriff gives conflicting information and has to change story a couple of times.

Not a single casino camera capturing paddock even being in the casino that night. Even though that would satiate the public for information of the paddock plot. Just one image. Don't even get that.

Paddocks house somehow broken into, despite neighbors being aware, and police weren't even watching the place?

More and more shifting timelines leaves us reaching for alternative theories like the Mandela effect to try to explain it.

Trump meets with maker of Metal detector while in Vegas, instead of the hero Campos, who wasn't feeling well enough to meet trump during trumps visit.

We have no motive, the Campos timeline shows he should not even be inside the Mandalay , nor have an access key for all rooms, because he was there or the harvest fest security outside and across the street.

Msm favors Weinstein event in favor of doing any investigation into Vegas, at all.

So what do we know about Vegas? Nothing.

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should not even be inside the Mandalay

Now that’s the smoking gun peeps!

How did Campos or what was Campos doing inside the Mandalay when he was on duty at the Concert?

Now he’s missing, nah he new Paddock100%

Except that the only reason anyone believes he wasn't supposed to be inside, is because they think they found proof he was supposed to be working somewhere else.. and nothing I've seen has me convinced.

The hotel has in multiple ways referred to him as an employee, and a screenshot of a search (used to prove the other search was wrong) isn't the most convincing evidence for me when compared to that.

If someone has something more solid, I wouldn't mind seeing it. I'm just thinking people are too easily accepting things as facts.

Csc employees dont work on the hotel room floors. I lived in vegas for 10 years and never saw csc up in the hotel areas, only suited security went up if they were called up. Trust me, i went to a lot of hotel parties that got broken up by security. Rarely saw csc on the casino floor too, they mainly work at events and concerts. Bright yellow jackets, super easy to spot.

I guess you failed to see my last sentence, if you have something more solid, feel free to provide it.. "the information we have been given is that he is CSC" perhaps I haven't heard whatever source you're talking about? Would definitely clear things up for me.

Heres an image of his license with csc https://m.imgur.com/a/r4ytx

That screenshot was to prove the other screenshot was wrong, that claimed there was no registration. It's hardly irrefutable proof that's the right guy, and so any premise built on that could be completely wrong.

Have they referred to him as Larry Campos? Are all the press conferences using his middle name, all the news using his middle name.. because why? He doesn't like the name Larry?

He wasn't part of harvest fest security, it's been confirmed that he is MB security, pictures just went out of him with the Union manager the rep them.

At least that is what is being presented to us!

What we don't really know is why police/security was on floor 31, it's also strange that Schuck (maintenance guy) wouldn't be notified there is a shooter on the floor he was sent to, but I'm guessing everything happened so fast that if they don't use the same radios it would have taken a minute.

Who says Campos called anyone, and if he did... who did he call? I've never heard that referenced really, and especially not made public. Why did maintenance guy not dial 911 himself, vs calling down to maintenance/front desk? He says he saw Campos taking cover in corner, and he warned him that there was a shooter. The press conference today should clear it all up, I'm sure (sarc).

They didn't dial anyone, they used radios, appearantly the maintenance guy radioed a hotel dispatcher, it has not been said who Campos radioed, and it is not known if they channels are linked.

If all radios only go to dispatch, and can not be heard by others than it would explain why response times for everyone were slow.

Something that does strike well with me though is in the maintenance guys interview he says he was in the hall way and heard shots, but the shot where not in the hallway yet, it wasn't until Campos told him to take cover that shot came down the hallway

How does that work? Paddock was switching back and forth from shooting down the hallway and outside or what? Maybe Dual wielding bump stock AR-15s? I dunno maybe I misunderstood him.

So, the maintenance guy's radio call was released. Are radio calls usually recorded? Isn't that odd? It wasn't a 911 call. Why would hotels record radio calls, especially ones coming from a maintenance guy? Is it standard procedure to record every single radio communication that goes on in a hotel?

Radio calls? Usually not. Unless there has been a lawsuit that could have been avoided if they were taped. What would most likely be taped though is phone calls.

The only time, in my experience, for radio calls to be recorded are for liability purposes because you have a habit of things going wrong. Not saying it doesn't happen. I've worked for one property where we recorded all radio transmissions because of liability purposes. We had people saying inappropriate comments over the radio where guest(s) could hear.

The maintenance guy sounded like a manager telling his workers there's left over doughnuts in the conference room.

"Hey guys, just letting you know there's a shooter on the 32nd floor. Thanks."

Exactly.

I don't know, security at casinos seem to be a different beast.. liability seems to be their biggest issue, so recording the radio seems like a simple way to avoid situations where you need to know exactly what was said, when it was said.. turns out to be important in this case for sure. It wouldn't be expensive, or hard to implement, and I remember reading an article about their security upgrade costing millions..

it's been confirmed that he is MB security

Where is this confirmation? Ive only heard that he was csc. Being hotel security completely changes the narrative

crazy how for other shooters they interview the family, friends, schools they went to, and even look at their tax returns.

Wheres the hoopla for PAddock?

They interviewed his sketchy brother.

yea which the brother said he hadnt communicated with paddock for years...

No interview with his roommate either

Criminal 1: "Hey did you hear about that Vegas shooting? Let's go break into that dude's house."

Criminal 2: "Don't you think the cops or the FBI or both may be there?"

Criminal 1: "Probably but fuck it let's do it anyway!"

Criminal 2: "Great plan let's go!"

Yeah, no criminal is stupid enough to break into Paddock's house right now.

What if he had some evidence that would get some people in a lot of trouble? Is it not a possibility someone went to great lengths to get that out of there before the FBI saw it?

Sure it's a possibility. I don't get the angle for these people breaking in. If it was an agency of the government what is the point of doing it? Why didn't they take everything when they investigated the first time?

But could be rogue elements of government or something and they couldn't take some shit they knew was hidden and not found during the initial search. So they sent over some people to grab it.

I really think the least likely explanation is that some fanatics wanted to just go into his house as something fun to do. Clearly it was not robbers because why would they even suspect anything valiable was still in there?

Fucking weird.

They probably did take everything the first time. They photograph, fingerprint evidence, then they bag it. Considering motive is important, any kinds of notes, books he had.. shit, there probably wasn't much left.

I'm kind of curious why people think that after a few days, there's anything left there to investigate. Hundreds of people working on this case, they could probably rip the house apart of they were truly thorough.. I imagine they'd be looking for hidden compartments, etc.. I don't see any reason they'd still be guarding an empty house after they've taken everything they need.

Sure it's a possibility. I don't get the angle for these people breaking in. If it was an agency of the government what is the point of doing it? Why didn't they take everything when they investigated the first time?

But could be rogue elements of government or something and they couldn't take some shit they knew was hidden and not found during the initial search. So they sent over some people to grab it.

I really think the least likely explanation is that some fanatics wanted to just go into his house as something fun to do. Clearly it was not robbers because why would they even suspect anything valiable was still in there?

Fucking weird.

Somewhere there is evidence of motive. Paddock may have gone to lengths to conceal his motive, but somewhere in these houses is the proof.

The same people who are telling you "there was no motive" are probably involved in disappearing evidence from the homes. If they stumbled onto motive evidence while actively investigating, they hid it somewhere because it was too hot to destroy it right then. Had to come back for it later.

It reminds me of the movie "In the Line of Fire" when the FBI are in the "lone wolf" suspect's (John Malkovich's) house and the NSA breaks in while they're there.

Except Heisenberg.

A similar thing happened after the San Bernardino shooting, it seemed really weird then and it seems really weird now. Their house didn't get broken in to, but less than 1 day after the attacks their landlord opened up their house to reporters which compromised the crime scene.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/san-bernardino-shooters-home-baby-toys-koran-article-1.2455452

It really seems like the police and FBI wouldn't leave one of these houses unguarded, super weird.

I remember that now that you mention it, good catch.

That was a case of a landlord who thought the crime scene had been released back to him opening up the house to the media, which rummaged through the place like hungry rats.

Paddock's house was a legit break in.

They're both crime scenes that you would expect the police and FBI to have a very close eye on, and they were both compromised. It's something that should be impossible, yet it's now happened twice.

There's been 3 mass shootings in the US where more than 10 people died in the past 4 years. In 2/3, the crime scene at the shooter's house was compromised. I don't know what that means, but it seems strange enough to be worth pointing out.

Not a normal criminal at least.

One thing that we know definitively: Whoever planned Sandy Hook had nothing to do with Las Vegas.

What if this is a simulation and the coder puts random weird shit in just to see tptb try to scramble to explain it?

Kind of. The "simulation" is the 3rd density, the "coders" could either be higher density beings or The Infinite Creator.

There are at least 2 pictures of Campos that I have seen. Both posted in this sub.

There was supposed to be a press conference today, did it take place?

Yep

I think we know more now. We just don't know if any of it is true other than the gunshot sounds captured on many videos which I have heard many times now. I have pieced what happened from those sounds.

We do have photos of Jesus Campos. We just don't know about him. Was he hotel security? Was he an agent?

Schuck, was he maintenance? Was he an agent?

If they were agents, it would explain everything. The multiple caliber gun fire, the delay in shooting. The 2 pistol shots fired at the end. Not calling the cops.

a month later and everyone just moved on

What if he had some evidence that would get some people in a lot of trouble? Is it not a possibility someone went to great lengths to get that out of there before the FBI saw it?

Except Heisenberg.

The maintenance guy sounded like a manager telling his workers there's left over doughnuts in the conference room.

"Hey guys, just letting you know there's a shooter on the 32nd floor. Thanks."

A similar thing happened after the San Bernardino shooting, it seemed really weird then and it seems really weird now. Their house didn't get broken in to, but less than 1 day after the attacks their landlord opened up their house to reporters which compromised the crime scene.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/san-bernardino-shooters-home-baby-toys-koran-article-1.2455452

It really seems like the police and FBI wouldn't leave one of these houses unguarded, super weird.

Not a normal criminal at least.

I guess you failed to see my last sentence, if you have something more solid, feel free to provide it.. "the information we have been given is that he is CSC" perhaps I haven't heard whatever source you're talking about? Would definitely clear things up for me.