If there were multiple shooters....

21  2017-10-14 by i_hate_the_redskins

If you have multiple shooters shooting thousands of bump fired rounds, there would be shell casings all over the place Wherever they were shooting.

nobody is picking up hundreds of casings After they shoot. Even if they tried, it would be difficult.

Wouldn’t people have found some by now? Somewhere? I know they founds tons in paddocks room but have any casing been found anywhere else?

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I could buy that there were multiple people involved in the plot, but at this point I don't think there were multiple simultaneous shooters... I'd wager all the additional shooters are a combination of alcohol, echos and adrenaline.

The helicopter theory would account for multiple shooters and the "shooting following" certain people.

More evidence suggesting that this was a hoax by the same people who staged Sandy Hook.

Not a hoax...people really did die.

More words proving nothing. I know someone blah blah blah...

Yeah, and your words are what? U want to say no one died...prove it. I do know someone. Why dont you take a trip to Vegas and visit some nurses and docs. Then you will know someone too. Or you can stay where you are and continue to throw out words based on not a damn thing. Don't get me wrong...there is something way off about this whole thing...the only thing that is certain to me is that people died.

Let me tell a story to mock you:

I know someone who secretly told me they are crisis actor in LV. He got paid well and promised another gig in the future. I can't reveal his name though. Don't believe me, why don't you talk to his family and friends?

Prove it.

I've lived in Vegas my whole life and still do. I don't know where you live, but you really wouldn't want this kind of crazy shit to happen anywhere near you. I've known at least 5 people who ended up on the local news from doing shit like overdosing on drugs, get busted for CP, die from drowning, killing their kids, die/injured in motorcycle accidents, threatening workplaces and bomb-threats in schools, having sex with their students, etc etc. Only after the shooting I realize this city is small as fuck. It's just Vegas people are bound to know people who know people who get into stupid shit whether they like it or not. And knock on wood there's nobody I know so far that was at that country festival who got injured/killed.

I did some googling and the population in Las Vegas alone is just over half a million, and that's not even all of Clark County.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/clarkcountynevada/PST045216

Seems like a lot of people, but if you look at the city on google maps and switch to satellite version, everything is so close to each other..

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Clark+County,+NV/@36.1488049,-115.2763271,40856m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80b8d6496837aa1d:0x3317d403aa5236f8!8m2!3d36.0795613!4d-115.094045

You lived in Vegas all your life and you had to use google to find out the population? Hmmm... ok buddy.

I don't care if you say you know someone who died. Words don't convince me. A sob story doesn't convince me. Autopsy reports, recovered bullets, conclusive photos of real people with real traceable histories convince me.

Join the fucking club.

Glad you agree with me.

Good thing no one really gives a shit what you believe. If you want to see for yourself..do as I said...get off your ass and find out instead of being a hot air jackass. What are you going to do when you find out you are wrong and you basically shit all over the victims and their families? Fade silently into the background..cause all you can do is talk shit. Like I said, you need to be convinced..take your silly ass to Vegas and see for yourself. Otherwise, toss around your ideas without being disrespectful to the victims. Or is that too much to ask?

Yes, I will continue to be disrespectful to the imaginary victims and you can continue to fake your outrage. You're sort of a crisis actor yourself.

Well, there is no need to guess what you are. Anyone with eyes can see. Peace out.

Yeah, umm most people don't give a shit about how many people live in their town...until they have reason to and then Google.

Did you forget to change accounts?

Bahahaha. I forget to add this into my other comment and instead of edit I did this way so you can't freak because of an edit. You should be on a flight to Vegas by now to bust this whole thing open right?

You're pathetic.

Not today. That is all in your description. You booked for Vegas yet? If you are going to mock over 500 victims..put your money where your mouth is or shut the hell up.

Don't feed the asshat lol. I don't live in Vegas but I have a few friends who do. Hope your city is finding peace. Hugs

Awwww haha ok, I'll try not to feed it. Thanks for the hugs too ♥

So because you don’t personally know someone who died, then no one did, that’s your logic?

Well then obviously nothing will be able to change your mind, no video, statements, tv coverage from hospitals ect will do, you have to personally know one of the dead.

Because the footage of the shooting and the interviews with "victims" clearly show that it's a hoax with very incompetent crisis actors like this joker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wS0KVn01J4

All the victims claim they can't remove the bullet from their bodies and they can't find a single bullet from the scene. You should research Sandy Hook.

So you literally cherry pick a single idiots interview and ignore the other 25 vids showing the mayhem, and you base your assessment on that.

Ok then.

It all still comes down to, you dont know anyone,you were not at the concert yourself, so it didnt happen.

Check out these 2 jokers. One got shot in the hip and the other in the shoulder and lung. And they're laughing and dancing the next day in their street clothes and make-up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47lJ8TyKYUM

I can post more. Or you can do your own research.

Ok, then i will use the same logic as you are using, to me that heavily edited video itself is “fake” as in someone made that video to push the whole “no shooter at all theory”

They themselves are actors in a fake vid, portraying another “fake vid” to push your narrative, thats your logic, use it in this scenario.

Ok. Then you agree with me. There is no proof of an actual live shooting.

Pieczenik was right, and I don't even like the guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDP2MRBnGsI

Uh no, try to keep up.

I mearly used your own twisted logic to explain that no evidence what so ever will convince you.

You dismiss every piece of evidence possible to confirm your bias.

I hate this hoax bullshit

Reality doesn't care what you like or hate.

Wow. I do a lot of shooting and I’ve actually never seen one of those. That’s definitely one way around making a mess.

I dont do alot of shooting, how far away to the casings end up when you shoot off a full clip?

Anywhere from like 3 inches by your foot, all the way to like 3 feet away. Not too far.

I work in an indoor shooting range. I've found casings as far as 15-20 feet away from shooters. They will typically be IN FRONT of them as well. I suspect they are out the window.

Well that would make sense to me as well.

That screams "stove pipe".

Nobody was shot. No shots were fired.

And please, nobody reply saying, "they are hiding something, but people did die. I know somebody who was there. I think this is the FBI" I've picked up on your sides talking points already, I don't need to read them anymore.

Sounds like you made up your mind, and ain't nothing is gonna change it... that can be a good thing... but it usually a bad thing.

Cover up? Yes. Hoax? No. I just can’t understand how people can dispute the fact that people died. Like, I don’t get it. That would basically mean that tons of people were in on it and there is no way that would work. . Doctors, nurses, actors, security, etc.....there is no way that a hoax of any sort could have so many people in on it. So you mean to tell me that 600 people went to a hospital with fake injuries? Come on.....

Not like there isn’t hours of videos of people on the ground at the concert literally showing the faces of dead and dying people rolls eyes

“By the same people who did Sandy Hook” ... fools who say that kind of thing are muddying the waters for those of us looking for answers, and there’s absolutely no denying it.

Fuck the cowboys.

That's all.

You don't know shit. Sandy hook was a hoax. Boston bombing was a hoax. So is this.

https://youtu.be/beU1lmZQp4c

I think you’re misconstruing a hoax and a false flag, there, champ. If you’re trying to tell me that people didn’t legitimately die in Las Vegas, you’ll be dismissed. If you want to argue the validity of the narrative as to who did it and their motives, then that’s a different story. But you need to slow your roll and realize you’re wrong. You need a new approach, start to finish.

No I'm not champ

That’s so funny. Keep uncovering then, sunshine. I hope the YouTube channels you’re subscribed to provide you all the evidence you need. No one is arguing that this was committed with a nefarious motive by an overarching group. But you’re trolling the issue and ruining anyone doing the real work to expose it, and somehow granting yourself superiority. Comically stupid.

Nope. I'm hones and am sharing my opinion. I don't have YouTubers telling me anything

Right, thumbs up As if you haven’t posted nothing but YouTube videos to expose these hoaxes. No one is arguing that there is more the story in all three of your anecdotal points. But you’re muddying the waters claiming no one died. A false flag is a thousand times easier to execute than a hoax.

It is a false flag hoax

Oh. Well since you put it that way!

No, the number is totally fabricated. You're playing dumb so I assume you know it's a hoax and I'll move on

This is the funniest circular thought pattern I have seen for awhile.. Your argument is so stupid I’d almost swear you’re doing it on purpose.

Go for it

Troll on.

The real question, is how aren’t the pictures leaked from the hotel room absolutely LITTERED will bullet casings? The man let off enough ammunition to indiscriminately hit over 600 people. His floor should be absolutely covered in expended brass. But the only casings I had seen were sitting atop a dried pool of blood by his head.

How close was the body within the proximity of one of the two windows?

I have been in a mandalay bay upper floor suite, they are huge.

If he was somewhere on the floor by the door he would be at least 25’ from a window.

There are no pics inside of the windows, there could be piles of casing there.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4944234/amp/Two-23-rifles-inside-Stephen-Paddock-s-room.html

You can definitely see the windows. The weapons he was reported to have used would discharge shell casings far enough that you’d see them everywhere. Not to mention, 1,000+ of them (never saw an official count on total shots fired) shot in various directions would nearly cover the ground in spots, not just be in a couple of piles.

I looked at that whole site, no where in there can you see one of the shooters windows in full view,you see a single broken window that stops at the bottom sill, show me the carpet under the window.

Im telling you those suites are huge, would those shell casings jump like 25’ feet away, i just cant buy that, every machine gun vid i see on youtube they just fall below the shooter or maybe a foot away.

Different models of guns dispel casings differently, so it depends on the model and caliber being shot.

But I have to say that in one of the pictures with a close up of a couple guns, you can see 10/20 shells laying on the ground in a sporadic enough order to be discharges, my question still remains though, for the amounnt of shots fired, it’s odd to not have seen a floor covered.

The casings by his head are suspicious too, I understand blood pooling underneath the casing as he bled out, just odd placement considering you can see the shot to the chest, as well as reports from the tactical team that “breached” his room that there was no visible gun shot wound to the head.

Who knows... lots of fuckery.

The brass coming out after ripping off 100 rounds is crazy hot. There would be burn marks on the carpet.

Ok so your saying that every single casing would leave a burn?

Or you need a pile of them to cause a burn, maybe there are burn marks all under the windows, we have no pics of them.

Interview of a swat dude that was in there said tons of casings. He also said lots of electronics. Monitors, laptops, cameras, wires and lots of tools. This is some riveting shit. I would love to see pics of the room.

Or the video that the shooter himself took, they said he had a camera set up inside the room.

Are we here to try and support the official narrative and come up with answers the authorities weren't and aren't capable of in order to help them support their interpretation of the event that has more holes in it than piece of Swiss cheese?

Or to dispute the facts given by all kinds of very ordinary everyday people who were right there at the scene and getting chased and shot at because surely all these authorities who weren't there must know better?

If the conflict between "knowing better" but not actually being able to provide any consistent, reliable, and accurate information to prove it in any real way doesn't convince anyone of the fact that that interpretation doesn't have a leg to stand on, then clearly nothing else would. And a better question is why are they even here because they're obviously satisfied enough with it?

From the sound of the gunfire, I think I know what happened.

Schuck and Jesus were shooting it out with Paddock before Paddock started firing on the crowd. This is because Schuck and Jesus were agents. This would explain the multiple caliber automatic fire at the same time, the long pause. There are only 4 distinct rifles in the videos and two pistol shots. 1 rifle is a bump-fire, another rifle is a crank-trigger. Yet another rifle or 2 rifles is a small automatic weapon, not used to rain down on concert goers. The last 2 gunshots are from pistols. One shot, then a second shot. I think the first shot is Paddock shooting himself in the mouth. The second shot is one of our agents shooting him again to make sure he is down.

The pic of the room with the note on the table shows some casings. No where near 1000. The curtain appears to be blowing in from the broken window possibly covering some more casings. But the chair right next to that window doesnt have a single casing on it.

Yes, I will continue to be disrespectful to the imaginary victims and you can continue to fake your outrage. You're sort of a crisis actor yourself.