I'm a mod, and I am directly answering you. There have been some really weird slips by automod lately. But we have a 7 day waiting period. Some new users request permission to post in modmail, and we review it and allow or disallow on a per case basis. If you see a new account trolling, report the post and PM directly with a link.
2 hrs later and you all have 17-21 upvotes.
Someone start a thread about how often you upvote content. I bet lots of our votes never count as things in new are perpetually LOW in vote count for the number of users.
I bet if we all upvoted for shit tomorrow we wouldn't see any different result.
Some new users request permission to post in modmail, and we review it and allow or disallow on a per case basis.
why? why is this even necessary? It's not. I've yet to see a single post from a NEW USER that was so important it couldn't have waited. Seriously... how does this even make sense.
If there is a 7 day waiting period - it should be for everyone... across the board. The NEW USER posts I have seen lately haven't contributed anything to this forum. They have all been bullshit posts but you guys manually approved them???
Fucking why? How does this make any sense at all??
Also - why are you the only MOD with something to say about this situation???
I have seen a great many posts by new users that were higher quality than 90% of the material that is generally posted here, especially in the last 2 weeks, that have been from users new to reddit altogether. You don't see it because you don't do it for a job.
I am probably the only one to respond because I saw it and responded first. If I was incorrect, I am sure one of the others would have jumped in to correct me.
I tried to answer you and you didn't like the answer, so we have this long thread of whining and I am done with it. We have dozens of established malicious accounts that attack our board constantly, and you want to complain about the handful that get approved and do something shitty. We have bigger problems dude. We try to allow as much as possible. As part of that, when people ask politely, we usually give them a shot. But you don't like that, you want us to be your own personal gatekeepers or something. Go make your own sub and censor it as you see fit. For the meantime, we are going to continue to do what we think is best for the sub.
I'm not bashing them. I was simply saying I have asked for an answer or direction on the issue... today is the first word I've ever received from a MOD about it... and it's still kind of vague.
In fairness to the mods, I came here with a brand new account and tried to post a few things, but kept getting messages telling me that because my account was less than seven days old, I couldn't post. I had decided to make a new account for a variety of reasons as I'm sure many of you can understand - so I wrote to the mods explaining that I wanted to get engaged in the LV discussion before it was no longer a hot topic; I shared the details of my normal reddit account with them as a means of proving that I'm not here to troll and I'm grateful that they accepted.
If you go to /r/automoderator you will see lots of complaints of intermittent outages for the last month or so. We approve a couple few new accounts a day, but we review their posts before we approve them...usually.
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this during the run up to the election on the front page sometimes over 50% of the posts were negative about HRC and a majority of the rest were pro-trump. Literally the only way to use this sub was to only look at the new section or controversial.
cute. this is only true if it's coming from the left anything from the right just fine from what I've seen.
I don't see anything about the tax cut for 1% with nothing for the middle class or poor, or trying to get into a war with Iran or NK, all this seems to be a-ok so I'm calling complete bullshit on your claim.
no said that or thinks that but a war with NK would be devastating to SK, to go to war with NK to stroke Donnies dick is asinine. he's too stupid to attempt to calm things down like every other reasonable prez has done or to let someone else do it and he won't stfu about it on twitter. War is usually not the answer and especially in this case regardless of the idiot leaders involved on both sides. There are millions of civilians that would be affected by a conflict in that region.
This happened the day of the Las Vegas shooting. The mods didn't even know what was up with the voting. I would contact them. I just want to know who other user was so I can pm him. He deleted it b4 I could
You pointed out to me it was Eric. I was wrong. You think I'm fake? I'm literally one of the most active people on here and I consistently provide proofs and videos that usually open new leads. Look at my post history and see if I give a fuck about shilling for anyone.
It's only used for forum sliding. Fill the sub with nonsense, use bots to vote it to the top, fill the comments with nonsense, use bots to upvote the comments you want everyone to see (or to bury the comments from real people you don't want visible), then you have made the forum useless for the actual exchange of information among real people.
I upvoted your post, OP, because I believe you and agree with you. Accusing me of being a new account posting BS stories is horseshit. I reposted my link as a Connection to Paddock. I was made aware that it was Eric in the videos. I'm still not wrong that Eric is in the videos.
You made this in response to my post though, that much is pretty obvious. I'm just saying, we need to fight the battles where they exist, not just a general "we're overrun" post. We need to point out these accounts, and have moderators ban them. That doesn't happen enough around here.
It wasn’t in response to your post it was in response to someone posting bs and me commenting that it’s not conspiracy related and getting 7 downvotes on my comment in 3 minutes and their post getting 19 upvotes in the same amount of time. I’m keeping track of the accounts and will let mods know, we’re on the same side mate.
It's just some asshole troll using a phone app, slide downvoting everything then switching accounts and doing it again. 12 times so far looking at this threads comments. Report it to the admins and they'll blitz the accounts.
Mods have no control over votes whatsoever. People always yell about how the votes aren't the same as they used to be and all the trolls should be banned, not realising that banned users can still vote on threads, and they do.
You should see the vote manipulation going on in the new queue right now, you can always tell when a psy-op hit piece is manipulated to the frontpage of /all.
For reference, at the time of this comment, almost everyone is at -6. Regulars here will understand how strange that is. We get downvoted, but not like that, and not that fast.
Right, and this only started happening in the past few days and A LOT of accounts that are less than a month old are all over the comments...they’re trying to bury new content and their comments make the sub look really bad
Even me posting this post takes away from why we’re all here, we should be looking at why Jesus Campos checked into a clinic as per my last link but it’s buried
It doesn't help that people keep posting the same junk over and over again -- and not even just the same news/topics, but the same exact links and same exact titles. So you come to the page and it looks exactly like it did a few hours ago and assume there's been no new activity, when in fact, the new activity is all buried beneath these broken record re-posts.
This account is new but it's because I had to step away from my 8 yr, 10 times guided account; the PM's and downvotes around Vegas discussion were indomitable.
I'm afraid to log back in my inbox is probably filled with toxicity. I'm used to "that theory is moronic gtfo" responses from time to time, but the sheer, flat "you're a fucking idiot" type commentary just clogged up any decent discussion I was trying to follow in my inbox. Being on mobile I don't know how to block users.
The Vegas happening is fucking sideways. To say otherwise outs you at this point. Nothing ads up and it doesn't take more than some light research to realize how backwards it all is.
I'm just now noticing while checking threads I commented earlier, comments that were highly upvoted earlier are now in the neg. I think we have guests.
That sort of behavior is very deceptive on Reddit...often I will post my thoughts and before I go to bed maybe I will have a few upvotes/agreement. Then I go to bed and wake up to extremely negative downvotes. It just goes to show how the acceptable norms/narratives are pushed.
Jey do you remember the other week, I think it was the day or day before the shooting we had this problem with instant downvotes. I kept getting - 10 and so did alot of other users
Im seeing that. Is there any big events (concerts, protests or anything like that) tonight or tomorrow that would be used to push the vegas thing under the rug.
Sure, people have been reporting sightings. And supposedly they are harbingers of disasters. I'm not quite so far gone I believe that. But it's notable.
Combined with what was posted about the OP walking their dog in park in Chicago and seeing all those men gathered and speaking Arabic with backpacks...
Take the tinfoil hat off bud. I assume I’m like a lot of people and found this sub because I wanted to see what all the nuts were saying about the Vegas shooting. It’s not a nefarious plot but some showdown organization. It’s a bunch of regular people that found the sub and decided to make fun of you guys.
You haven’t spent much time here as those blinkers are firmly welded on. Perhaps you’ll learn a little critical thinking during your visit. Until then I hope your life brightens as you’re clearly suffering a miserable existence.
I archived this thread a few times as it was happening. A lot of comments were downvoted way outside of the norm. In the first two, it doesn't show the comments that were new but downvoted below 5 so that they'd be hidden. For some reason the archive doesn't show that, but most of the comments less than an hour old were hidden.
I see what you mean then, and yep, the normals have come to visit on the back of the Vegas 'event'. This happens whenever there's high profile Govt. fuckery, a few psy-op ringleaders and a whole boatload of useful idiots fresh from the latest frontpage hit piece. We can ban them but we can't stop them voting.
I'm new here, but I really don't see why I see this mentality keep coming up.. isn't the idea to have healthy debate? Find some semblance of truth? If I'm wrong, I want to be told I'm wrong, not just have what I think confirmed.
I've seen more evolution of theories concerning the Vegas thing, than I have in any of the wilder conspiracies I see, that only some choose to participate in.. More voices simply mean more ideas, more discussion.. I see no harm in that.
Its easy to find the mainstream narrative that is being pushed or common, look around you and you will see it and hear it. The point of this place is to do exactly what you suggested and use our own judgement in place of the judgement that is generally fed to us so that we parrot it further and not actually discussing what happened. Nothing is being automatically dismissed, its just that its easier to start at an alternative spot compared to whatever is being pushed. Sometimes its just a bunch of stupid people not accepting what does seem to be fact, but truth is fickle and subject to perception and hopefully we can sort through it and get closer to Truth.
I mean, I'm with you, for the most part I guess. I don't blame the media for reporting what they've been told in regards to the Vegas shooter, I blame shitty police work. I don't condemn an entire news source, I look at the merits of lack of, of the individuals reporting.
In the case of the Vegas shooting, there's nothing about the timeline that makes sense. What they claimed this past Monday made the most sense, but they got called on their bullshit Friday, and are back to their bullshit story. It's clear they straight up lied on Monday to put out something more plausible, but that's not the reporters that lied, that's the law enforcement lying.
But I agree, I want to get closer to the truth. If I'm wrong I want to be told I'm wrong, and I don't think they should ban people who would tell me I'm wrong.
The sheriff in Friday said he refers to conspiracy theories as conspiracy fantasy. I think he had a point, there's people that use their imagination more than they use fact, and they get upset when someone pokes holes in their Fantasy. Then there's people who try to gather facts that they believe show that something else possibly happened. Most aren't trying to imagine what they think happened and build backwards.. they're trying to build a logical case for something, and they seem more than okay with being wrong.
All of it belongs here. There's nothing wrong with being wrong, but there's also nothing wrong with entertaining ideas that might not be so plausible. Sometimes it's that kind of divergent thinking that will reveal something useful, even if it's not the original idea.
I've lurked here a very long time. I've seen two types of people, people who react positively to criticism, and those who react badly. The latter going so far as to call them shills and whatnot, for simply disagreeing with them. I've seen it be far more volatile than it is now, a few months ago I never would have joined..
But I've seen more moderators enforce the rule against calling people shills, allowing discussion rather than remove comments that they don't like or disagree with.
But I think the argument about "mainstream media" is where the issue is. The guy I responded to can use a mainstream source, but then accuse someone of being condescending for using one to say he's wrong.
I simply don't get it, people getting upset because of sources, or criticism. It's a discussion, and as long as everyone acts civilly, it should be allowed to continue.
I don't get upset about being wrong.. an example was that one of the pictures was photoshopped of Campos. Someone made the claim, but didn't provide the source. I said they wouldn't. Then they did. Then I couldn't recreate it.. then I found out archive.is doesn't archive each element of the page, but the picture itself was archived.. and I found out I was quite wrong. Edited my comment to show I was wrong.
I'm not upset, I'm glad there's now evidence that I can confirm myself was edited and had the wrong date. Verifying or debunking is what's going to lead to the best truth. Media is simply regurgitating what the officials are claiming happened, and it is up to us to verify or debunk what they claim.
Honestly, I think if there was a more concerted effort to evaluate what they present to us, to see if it can be debunked, would give us better ways to see what better explanation might make more sense.
But not if people here generally thinking disproving something is bad. Not if they think or assume it's so someone can feel superior.
Idk, hopefully I've clarified a bit. Discussion and debate seem healthy, and more likely to lead to us finding out what did happen, since for the most part I think we all agree, something isn't right.
Thank you for clarifying. The point is that the MSM cannot be trusted. The fact that Obama's passed a law allowing the government to use propaganda on its citizens via mainstream media, speaks for itself. Not only that, they've been caught lying over and over again. I'm sure they report some truths mixed in with those lies, but it's nearly impossible to go through each story with a fine tooth comb. The easiest solution is to write them off imo, and I think the majority on this sub feel the same way.
I do agree with you that many people do not handle differing opinions very well. Something about conspiracies can really make people get worked up in defending their ideas. I don't hang on very tightly to ideas and leave myself open to changing my mind on things, sounds like you're the same, so I apologize for being wrong about you.
I see your reasons as far as mainstream media goes, and I agree to a degree.. but I also see who benefits from telling us what we want to hear. If people start turning to generic websites absolutely covered in ads, like many of the ones I'm seeing posted in this sub related to the Los Vegas shooting.. what's their motivation? To spread truth? Hard to believe considering the number of ads.
The idea of "fake news" has made it profitable to say anything that disagrees with what they say. Do you doubt that there's anyone here who saw that potential, because as you said, most people here agree.. isn't it likely there's many individuals that are writing what we wanna hear, truth or not, to get ad revenue, because they know we'll eat it up? Likely posting their own sites.
So now there's solid reasoning to doubt all media really. Real news because of their motives, but actual fake news, also because of its motives
In the end, I don't think blanket ignoring any source is going to leave anyone better informed. We have to question everything regardless, hope we're smarter than those that would manipulate us, regardless of the motivation to.
But you're right, I'm not clinging onto any ideas, I tend to be reserved on my judgements, but I'm pretty sure most things I believe, I'm pretty open minded about them. And I think it's pretty cool this discussion didn't turn into the typical shit show that many do here.. I think most of the time, it is because we assume way too much about the other person. I try not to, but I've definitely been guilty!
There's a big difference between differing opinions and outright lying and propaganda though, and the MSM are guilty of the latter. Therefore, if someone tries to use CNN as a source for example, then they're most likely new to the conspiracy world, or are still asleep at the wheel.
I agree with open discussion where people have differing ideas, that's how we learn and grow. At the end of the day, I want to be wrong if it means I'm getting closer to the truth, and it sounds you're the same.
And yeah, thread after thread the top comments get hijacked by people bitching at each other, while being totally off topic and resorting to personal attacks. I get it though, it hurts the ego for some people to be wrong and they take that negative feeling and attack the person who showed them they were wrong.
Let's examine the idea of "differing opinions" though. Sure, they can float things that are opinions that differ.. but when their pure motivation is clicks/ad revenue, and technically they have no reputation to really worry about losing since they aren't a reliable source.. why wouldn't they lie, if it makes them more money.
Think about 4chan, I've seen multiple people say, even if it's wrong 99% of the time, that 1% is totally worth sifting through all those lies. Using that logic, people will choose to believe what confirms what they think, as long as sometimes it ends up being true.
Mainstream media, at most, has biased opinions. I've never seen outright lies with intent, just half truths. Stretching the truth.
I'm just not the type that thinks everything government is pure evil. I think most people at the top probably have motives that don't represent us: money for the rich, make laws against the poor, make loopholes for my rich friends.. etc.
I think some, at least, want to make things better, and though they may be distracted by those same motives, some.. aren't purely evil.
Where we might differ is on the president. Far too many seem to think he's going to drain the swamp, while he has a history of doing anything to save a few bucks. I think he's the worst swamp creature possible.
I think a Hillary presidency would be more of the same, nothing really noticeable going on.. then we have Trump, mainly just undoing anything Obama did, and when he's bored he's just dividing our country, threatening a nation with nukes, telling people who happen to mostly be black what to do during the anthem.. you know, just constantly distracting people from whatever he's actually doing that matters.
While most think every government official is likely a socio/psychopath actively trying to kill us for whatever reason.. we have a president who's obviously narcissistic, cares more about how he's perceived than the ramifications of his actions.. and motives are unclear. Destroy health care because Obama. Get in pissing match with North Korea, because.. reasons.
Why would Russia have to destabilize our country, when we have a president that is rather good at dividing, distracting, and destroying anything he just doesn't like?
my biggest issue is that people dont realize less than 150 years ago a 13 year old was expected to be married and already pregnant. there wasnt a thing about "pedophiles". the limit of "18" is a societal implementation
what the actual fuck, you pedo sympathiser? 150 years ago people died before reaching 40 because of poor healthcare and spread diseases. kids started work from age 6 and never been to school. are you saying we need to bring this back???
obviously you didnt read the comment linked within this comment... to which I was overall responding against by responding to the person who responded to it.
obviously you didnt read the comment linked within this comment... to which I was overall responding against by responding to the person who responded to it.
How do you know how many downvotes you got? I didn’t know that was thing I thought you just got to see the final count? Unless it was -90 at one point?
Because if you don't have solid evidence you can't prove it's a conspiracy..... according to the users who don't even believe that a government could possibly lie to further an agenda.
I think a lot of people get excited when they see something, and instead of search to see if it's been posted.. I commented in a post about this this morning, that was already pretty popular by the time I saw it.
People upvote things they haven't seen, and downvote to keep posts from looking like spam when the same thing is posted multiple times.
I’m a newcomer to this sub BECAUSE of Vegas. It’s the reason I keep coming back but I have been disappointed the last week due to the lack of Vegas content.
make sure you're viewing by NEW, not HOT. A lot of stuff in this sub gets buried and it's the best way to get good information. Conspiracy or not, a lot of factual data with Las Vegas is getting down-voted massively.
The mods here are a curious bunch. There was recently a mod coup, and most of the usurpers are sanctimonious clowns. But then again, the mod culture on this sub has been very toxic for years.
About a month back. Where to begin. Here's an outside perspective where he responds, here's a post from the new sub he made, here's some recent post he made here.
Fucking A. This sub is pretty good. It's easy to ignore the shills and slide threads, they are so obvious here. I hope this sub doesn't go the way the rest of reddit has.
Because the ridiculous claims make for a good laugh. But seriously, all I see here are outrageous claims about some hole in the narrative. Of course there’s incomplete information and contradictory information coming out, it’s an active investigation by numerous LE agencies and covered by 100s of media outfits. Shits gonna get confusing. It’s like you guys believe that all information collected by law enforcement should be immediately available to you. Just because there’s something that doesn’t make sense to you or information that isn’t readily available to you doesn’t mean it’s a massive conspiracy.
Of course some conspriacies are going to be ridiculous, some are seeing things where there is nothing there. But the whole point is critical thinking and asking questions and eventually people stumble upon some things that make no sense and start to add up.
I had this discussion with my boyfriend earlier today. He's very big into conspiracies and I tolerate them but am more skeptical about some of them, I even said something similar to him- that it's an active investigation and just because they correct information doesn't necessarily mean anything. But there are other odd things about the LV shooting than just corrected information. You can easily explain one thing off but when there are a lot of holes, then something feels wrong. A lot of people making guesses will be wrong, but that's ok. There is no harm in conjecture and questioning. Questioning and being wrong is always better than blindly accepting what you're told.
But then you end up with people going to far, like when they started attacking the parents of the kids killed at sandy hook for being actors. That shit can hurt people.
No, sorry. That's the same specific excuse people parrot constantly for the reason to not question any conspiracies and it's crap, to be frank. Some people are crazy, that's not going to change by not questioning things. People get hurt daily from other people's actions, that's life. One instance isn't a reason to stop talking about everything and to stop asking questions. People talking about the potential that sandy hook didn't happen didn't force anyone to harass the parents, they did that on their accord. Talking hurts no one, accepting things without question hurts everyone.
There is not possibility that sandy hook didn’t happen. You’re a tin foil hat wearing, wanna be Alex Jones. It bothers me that there are people like you out there. I wouldn’t trust someone like you to fly a plane I’m on or drive a bus near me or even make my McDonald’s fries.
Lol so now the character assassinations, cute. Didn't take long. I never said I believed sandy hook didn't happen, nor could it even be implied from my post. You brought up an example of why we should never question anything and I called you out on the parroted crappy logic.
Also for the note, I have never watched, read, or listened to anything Alex Jones has said. However, it's a guaranteed attempt at an insult with people like yourself. Predictable.
You come across as lonely really. Lonely and stupid, but what ever. Critical thinking is hard for some. If you stick around her maybe you'll learn how to challenge yourself.
I’m pretty lonely but I only have one more hour of work then I can party. I’m not gonna learn critical thinking here. Ill learn how to make shit up but that’s about it.
Thanks. Now insert your head back up your ass. Anything is plausible. You pretend that the brightest among us are on the case, and for that your categorically defined as a dumbass.
I never said the Las Vegas pd or the FBI investigators are the brightest people out there but I do believe they’re more intelligent then the people on this sub. Especially considering they’re the only ones with access to the evidence.
If you wanted to take it seriously you'd put in research and not ask for a 'too long, didn't read' on an ongoing investigation that hasn't provided a motive and has only led the public to believe of a single entity behind the crime, from start until present.
If you had any inclination to find out if there is substance behind people's concerns regarding Vegas, you wouldn't have asked your question in the manner that you did.
That would be false. The sheriff, under-sheriff, and special agent of the FBI leading the investigation have all claimed without a doubt, there was not a second shooter.
There's plenty of information available to question their narrative in that sense. If you have any interest, put in the time. If not, good day.
Very soon it’ll be un-American to talk about Vegas. The jesus freak right and left wingers will say we’re pissing on the flag and that we’re insensitive to the dead. The endgame is that we’re not patriots, That we must be medicated, and taxed to death. Everything in the current MSM shitscape is sectarian overload. If you don’t pledge your soul to the machine your shit, if you sit or you stand, you’re shit. We’ve not at war with eastasia, we’ve always been at war with eastasia. FUCK THEM.
Ever since Weinstein went down, the_donald has been taking trips on the short bus over here to post non stop about democrats and Hollywood being evil Satan worshipping pedophiles. I don't remember this sub being so upset when O'Reilly went down. Apparently it's much more important when a democrat goes down.
This is my most frequented sub (ok second, r/gonewild is amazing!!!) & I will get bored & post some off the wall shit for fun. I have honestly seen that my BS is not down voted as hard as my actual thoughts. Example: there was a post earlier about pictures of Campos being dead im them. Some one posted "you'd be amazed at what an excellent mortician can do" I responded w/ "no, as an excellent mortician I wouldn't" instant down voting. It's in my god dammed username & I get down voted for telling a jerk he's wrong?
Trying to dig through new posts is like wading through a shit tank looking for a diamond that may or may not be counterfeit. Granted I'm pretty new here too but I don't post, just comment and vote.
This is what I was trying to get at last night with all the Hollywood "groping" stories. My post was locked at 0 within 10 minutes. Should have waited until the paid shifts left for the weekend.
Seems there's been a huge amount of ft right propaganda getting posted recently. It seemed to have does down after fly tape was removed but is jacking up again. I've noticed it all across Reddit.
The government is asking actors to act and get our attention. Everyone will admit to being raped just to stop us from looking up the Las Vegas massacre.
The government is asking actors to act and get our attention. Everyone will admit to being raped just to stop us from looking up the Las Vegas massacre.
Do you have ANY proof of any of this shit? This is why I feel this sub is going downhill. People just make general accusations and treat it as the truth.
Noticed that was happening right after Las Vegas. It makes sense from TPTB perspective. It makes the whole sub more noise than signal. Maybe a lasvegasshooting dedicated sub would be better with a strong mod.
It’s not new, it’s just working because more and more regulars and actual critical thinkers are getting annoyed and just coming here less meaning they dominate the front page
This is new to you? You missed td doing this for the past year here but now it's news, but it wasn't back then when everyone saw the brigading start. I mean really?
I looked into several of the obvious bogus subs. All of the users only post during major events and only post alien/ghost/flat Earth stuff. Same M.O. every time
This sub is mostly politicized now. Right vs left. The hegelian dialectic is my favorite conspiratorial angle.... how about those chemtrail-generated wildfires, eh?
Right before I made this post I had posted about Jesus Campos being admitted to a clinic. That post had 30+ downvotes in one minute and then then was buried under about 30 random non-conspiracy posts, most of those posts made by accounts that were under a month old. I didn’t screenshot each post and write down account names in the moment I just made this post. And immediately every comment here was getting up to 50 downvotes within minutes of the comments being posted.
Firstly, all you did was provide words, not evidence. Second of all, if I were just to take your word for these things, it still wouldn't be evidence towards the thesis of this thread. The thesis had literally nothing to do with downvoted which is all you've claimed here. Like I said, I'm not saying it's wrong, but evidence would be appreciated.
What kind of evidence can I provide now after the fact? I hear what you’re saying but since I didn’t screenshot the posts that buried the Campos/clinic post you’re right it’s just words and I wish I HAD. Luckily several mods saw what happened with this post while it was happening. We’re on the same side friend.
So you're saying that only for a brief moment in time the sub was being flooded with non conspiracy posts from new accounts? Cause I got the impression you were implying this is the new standard.
Yes, it was slow on here and refreshing “new” wasn’t showing new content until I posted the Campos clinic article and out of nowhere refreshing “new” showed 30+ bs content non conspiracy links and the article was downvoted hard and buried. And some of the accounts were a week old, none were older than a month.
They sacrificed the megalomaniac sexual predator under the lens effect. Classic propaganda. Is what that piece of shit horrible, yes. However, if you didn’t think this existed, or currently exists in Hellywood you’re a goddamn fool. I don’t give a fuck about that in comparison to the blatant fuckery of Vegas. Deal with it.
I have a hard time believing someone would spend so much resources on such a lame site like reddit trying to "clog" it up. No one takes this sub seriously besides the people here.
Does this also mean that we should not believe claims that Russia would spend so many resources on such a lame site as Facebook trying to sway opinion?
Facebook is WAY more mainstream but either way I would like to see some proof. Maybe people are just downvoting dumb shit or shit that's already been covered.
Ok, so if 234 million unique visitors is "lame" and "not mainstream", then I think you need to define the point at which something becomes "not lame" and "mainstream" so that we can be on the same page.
While I respect everyone's right to voice their opinion, I hope this can be gotten under control. Despite how people try to paint this thread, it is actually one of the best places I've seen for discussions. The commenters are respectful, the content is interesting and thought provoking, the tone is sympathetic to all people for the most part, not just those who agree with you. Much better than the subs with clear political slants. I think this one has a good mix of both right and left perspective, both coming from a position of wanting the seek the truth. I hope trolls don't ruin it.
I remember coming to this sub and learning so much new and exciting information. Since the last presidential election, Reddit as a whole has just been bought/bot driven. Literally one of the last frontiers for honest opinions and open discussions, now home to the hot button topics of the water-cooler.
I wish there were more alt-history, alt-science, elite corruption, and deeper rabbit holes than the surface level junk we've all read so much of in the last year.
Lemme know if you find another sub in the same spirit who still values alternative thinking.
I think in the wake of Vegas this sub blew up with a lot of genuine conspiracy threads that uncovered real discrepancies in the official narrative. There was a huge spike in the subs popularity, certain people took notice, and a new effort was made to inundate the sub with disinformation and gain control of it. Somewhere in that timeframe the Harvey Weinstein story broke...
Pretty sure Shadow Bans are going around, and pretty sure I got one after posting on a Weinstein thread about a threatening PM I received during Pizzagate time. Can anyone even see this?
Sweet, I totally agree with your post. The other day I saw a highly upvoted post about how Paddocks pic had nostrils offset that was made by a new account. COMPLETE DISTRACTION and WASTE OF TIME.
Mods should stop censoring media sources that are factually true but they just disagree with. Until that stops people will be posting in the wrong sections to get info out.
Im seeing that. Is there any big events (concerts, protests or anything like that) tonight or tomorrow that would be used to push the vegas thing under the rug.
It's only used for forum sliding. Fill the sub with nonsense, use bots to vote it to the top, fill the comments with nonsense, use bots to upvote the comments you want everyone to see (or to bury the comments from real people you don't want visible), then you have made the forum useless for the actual exchange of information among real people.
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1 RMFN 2017-10-14
There should be an age limit on account. We did a one month limit at /r/c_s_t and it made all the difference in the world.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Mods here should do the same this sub has changed for the worse
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
We have a 7 day waiting period.
1 RMFN 2017-10-14
Way too short.
1 tpYOURfb 2017-10-14
No we don't. We are supposed to have a 7 day waiting period.
There are tons of NEW USER posts from accounts as young as 43 minutes posting here.
The MODs won't directly answer why. Not yet anyway.
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-14
Sometimes people change their handles for whatever reason and let the mods know what their previous account was.
1 tpYOURfb 2017-10-14
yet the MODs aren't saying this are they?
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-14
I don't know what they are saying, I just know when I modded elsewhere it happened.
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
I'm a mod, and I am directly answering you. There have been some really weird slips by automod lately. But we have a 7 day waiting period. Some new users request permission to post in modmail, and we review it and allow or disallow on a per case basis. If you see a new account trolling, report the post and PM directly with a link.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Are you seeing the downvotes happening right now?
1 tpYOURfb 2017-10-14
yah - minus 11 on another comment of mine. innocuous as well.
1 brandnewset 2017-10-14
2 hrs later and you all have 17-21 upvotes. Someone start a thread about how often you upvote content. I bet lots of our votes never count as things in new are perpetually LOW in vote count for the number of users.
I bet if we all upvoted for shit tomorrow we wouldn't see any different result.
1 dncisapsyop 2017-10-14
Thanks man, you guys do a great job with this sub. I appreciate your work, especially since you don't get paid for it.
1 tpYOURfb 2017-10-14
why? why is this even necessary? It's not. I've yet to see a single post from a NEW USER that was so important it couldn't have waited. Seriously... how does this even make sense.
If there is a 7 day waiting period - it should be for everyone... across the board. The NEW USER posts I have seen lately haven't contributed anything to this forum. They have all been bullshit posts but you guys manually approved them???
Fucking why? How does this make any sense at all??
Also - why are you the only MOD with something to say about this situation???
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
I have seen a great many posts by new users that were higher quality than 90% of the material that is generally posted here, especially in the last 2 weeks, that have been from users new to reddit altogether. You don't see it because you don't do it for a job.
I am probably the only one to respond because I saw it and responded first. If I was incorrect, I am sure one of the others would have jumped in to correct me.
1 tpYOURfb 2017-10-14
Really dude? Really?
Here are the NEW USER posts from the last day and a half.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/76nr7j/times_up_hollywood_judge_jeanine_goes_off_on/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/76k9jq/las_vegas_my_perspectivereserach_why_bob_gannon/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/76k6gu/the_richest_person_in_the_world_zipf_law/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/76iljw/amazing_triangle_shape_ufo_caught_on_camera_the/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/76ie7k/top_10_signs_of_aliens_and_alien_life_caught_on/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/76i75n/just_for_laughs_gags_uses_actors/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/76fpy8/metaanalysis_pedogate_podesta_disclosure/
Not one of them is breaking news or so timely that the 7 day waiting period should have been lifted for these users.
Two alien posts allowed by a single NEW USER account?
It doesn't make sense at all.
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
I don't know what to tell you man. You sound like you need a hobby.
1 tpYOURfb 2017-10-14
nah dude - you guys aren't making sense with this stuff.
you don't know what to tell me? I can see that. None of you do.
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
And you wonder why the other mods choose not to discuss these things with you?
1 tpYOURfb 2017-10-14
LOL - you just tried to say that my question wasn't a legitimate one and added the kind notion that "You need a hobby"?
Dude - I have been asking kindly with no real answer being given.
You start insulting someone and then have the gall to say something like that?
The MOD direction on this issue has been absolute shit. It makes no sense. Insulting me doesn't change that.
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
I tried to answer you and you didn't like the answer, so we have this long thread of whining and I am done with it. We have dozens of established malicious accounts that attack our board constantly, and you want to complain about the handful that get approved and do something shitty. We have bigger problems dude. We try to allow as much as possible. As part of that, when people ask politely, we usually give them a shot. But you don't like that, you want us to be your own personal gatekeepers or something. Go make your own sub and censor it as you see fit. For the meantime, we are going to continue to do what we think is best for the sub.
1 tpYOURfb 2017-10-14
Can you please explain this one?
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/76ugaz/metaanalysis_pedogate_podesta_disclosure_part_2/
This is a 2 day old account that isn't being labelled as a new user... another automod fail I guess /s.
This is getting ridiculous.
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
Oh I see the problem now, you are a political hack.
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
I see the problem now. It is one of those wherever you go you seem to be surrounded by assholes things.
1 stakesishigh007 2017-10-14
What the fuck does that mean? So you are now allowing 2 day old accounts to post here without the NEW USER label?
You owe us an apology.
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
You will run out of accounts eventually.
1 Stantoninus 2017-10-14
Weird. For this account I had to wait the full week before it would let me post (like a few weeks back). So are some accounts getting fast-tracked?
1 darkgatherer 2017-10-14
Yes they're called Trumpers, they get immediate ability to post granted them by the other Trumpers still on thew mod team.
1 dncisapsyop 2017-10-14
The mods on this sub are actually really great.
1 tpYOURfb 2017-10-14
I'm not bashing them. I was simply saying I have asked for an answer or direction on the issue... today is the first word I've ever received from a MOD about it... and it's still kind of vague.
1 spamisakindofmeat 2017-10-14
In fairness to the mods, I came here with a brand new account and tried to post a few things, but kept getting messages telling me that because my account was less than seven days old, I couldn't post. I had decided to make a new account for a variety of reasons as I'm sure many of you can understand - so I wrote to the mods explaining that I wanted to get engaged in the LV discussion before it was no longer a hot topic; I shared the details of my normal reddit account with them as a means of proving that I'm not here to troll and I'm grateful that they accepted.
1 RMFN 2017-10-14
It's turned to shit.
1 tpYOURfb 2017-10-14
I have messaged the mods several times about this. New accounts that are less than 60 minutes old posting content.
Every single time I get the same response... they will let you if you message them and ask.
I have asked the mods in PMs as well as text posts to please explain the reasoning behind these New Users being allowed to post...
As of yet not a single MOD has messaged me to explain their seemingly new policy on this... and MODs like to chime in here and go on the record???
Nope - you aren't going to are you? None of you will go on the record to explain this new policy or this new selective enforcement will you???
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
If you go to /r/automoderator you will see lots of complaints of intermittent outages for the last month or so. We approve a couple few new accounts a day, but we review their posts before we approve them...usually.
1 bannana 2017-10-14
just now it has? not when it was completely overrun by T_D last year and up to a few months ago? This sub was a joke back then.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
True but it’s even worse now
1 bannana 2017-10-14
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this during the run up to the election on the front page sometimes over 50% of the posts were negative about HRC and a majority of the rest were pro-trump. Literally the only way to use this sub was to only look at the new section or controversial.
1 benadrylop 2017-10-14
conspiracy sub has always been against the deep state.
1 bannana 2017-10-14
cute. this is only true if it's coming from the left anything from the right just fine from what I've seen.
I don't see anything about the tax cut for 1% with nothing for the middle class or poor, or trying to get into a war with Iran or NK, all this seems to be a-ok so I'm calling complete bullshit on your claim.
1 benadrylop 2017-10-14
Since when are NK the good guys LOL
1 bannana 2017-10-14
no said that or thinks that but a war with NK would be devastating to SK, to go to war with NK to stroke Donnies dick is asinine. he's too stupid to attempt to calm things down like every other reasonable prez has done or to let someone else do it and he won't stfu about it on twitter. War is usually not the answer and especially in this case regardless of the idiot leaders involved on both sides. There are millions of civilians that would be affected by a conflict in that region.
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
Like what. What was the users name in that post about the YouTube videos with paddock
1 RMFN 2017-10-14
If its not obvious to you you're an idiot or in on the game.
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
Neither. But my question was for OP
1 RMFN 2017-10-14
So just an idiot
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
No I had questions for the person that deleted the post.
1 RMFN 2017-10-14
Dont get your drool on me pleb.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Dude you’re attacking the wrong guy
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-14
Right? What's the deal today?
1 RMFN 2017-10-14
Reeeeeeee
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
Why are you attacking me
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Ignore him, reeeee and pleb are donald words
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
Ha didn't know that thanks. I hope you didn't think I was attacking u or the other guy I questions for
1 RMFN 2017-10-14
Wow. This sub is dead.
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
I'm so confused. I saw that vid and wanted more questions about it because it's new to me. That's all
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
He deleted everything and even this post is getting downvoted
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
This happened the day of the Las Vegas shooting. The mods didn't even know what was up with the voting. I would contact them. I just want to know who other user was so I can pm him. He deleted it b4 I could
1 Zenyx_ 2017-10-14
You pointed out to me it was Eric. I was wrong. You think I'm fake? I'm literally one of the most active people on here and I consistently provide proofs and videos that usually open new leads. Look at my post history and see if I give a fuck about shilling for anyone.
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
Oh just saw this comment, no I don't think you fake I was assuming you were being messed with because I haven't seen this vid yet
1 lolix123 2017-10-14
I have noticed an increase in activity these past couple of days
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
And there are your 10 downvotes for mentioning it
1 fuster_cluq 2017-10-14
I think there is something wrong, either some sort of technical issue with the site or there's some kind of down vote bot instantly down voting stuff
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
They want us to get frustrated and abandon ship, there’s no bot it’s actual accounts downvoting, the pattern and timing is too obvious
1 lolix123 2017-10-14
Hmm that's odd lol. I'm just saying a lot of useless, and I mean SUPER useless conspiracies have been posted recently
1 perfect_pickles 2017-10-14
notice the Antarctica stuff withered and went away, the only ones biting on that tardstory was the shills. flat earth seems to be out of fashion also.
1 bananapeel 2017-10-14
It's only used for forum sliding. Fill the sub with nonsense, use bots to vote it to the top, fill the comments with nonsense, use bots to upvote the comments you want everyone to see (or to bury the comments from real people you don't want visible), then you have made the forum useless for the actual exchange of information among real people.
1 axeheadroad 2017-10-14
None of you people complaining about down votes are down voted.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
This post is 5 hours old, people were getting 30+ downvotes in under a minute at some point, seems fixed now
1 benadrylop 2017-10-14
The children who get off on downvoting people complaining about downvotes have gone to bed.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
50 downvotes in one minute isn’t paranoia even the mods were saying wtf
1 Zenyx_ 2017-10-14
I upvoted your post, OP, because I believe you and agree with you. Accusing me of being a new account posting BS stories is horseshit. I reposted my link as a Connection to Paddock. I was made aware that it was Eric in the videos. I'm still not wrong that Eric is in the videos.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
It’s not about you, there are several very new accounts posting non conspiracy content and down voting users who have been here forever
1 Zenyx_ 2017-10-14
You made this in response to my post though, that much is pretty obvious. I'm just saying, we need to fight the battles where they exist, not just a general "we're overrun" post. We need to point out these accounts, and have moderators ban them. That doesn't happen enough around here.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
It wasn’t in response to your post it was in response to someone posting bs and me commenting that it’s not conspiracy related and getting 7 downvotes on my comment in 3 minutes and their post getting 19 upvotes in the same amount of time. I’m keeping track of the accounts and will let mods know, we’re on the same side mate.
1 Zenyx_ 2017-10-14
Agreed. You know this sub is turning to shit when you can't call out people who post garbage.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Exactly my point
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
4 downvotes on a benign comment? This sub is dead I’m heading over to the locked one
1 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2017-10-14
It's just some asshole troll using a phone app, slide downvoting everything then switching accounts and doing it again. 12 times so far looking at this threads comments. Report it to the admins and they'll blitz the accounts.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Mods are here and know about it, still happening
1 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2017-10-14
Mods have no control over votes whatsoever. People always yell about how the votes aren't the same as they used to be and all the trolls should be banned, not realising that banned users can still vote on threads, and they do.
You should see the vote manipulation going on in the new queue right now, you can always tell when a psy-op hit piece is manipulated to the frontpage of /all.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
So can admins tell what’s happening?
1 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2017-10-14
Yes, they have access to the backend of reddit.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Aren’t you a mod? Can you contact admin?
1 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2017-10-14
Yes, and they hear from us more than enough already. It'd be nice if the users could do it for themselves occasionally too.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
I would love to help can you tell me how to contact admins? Side bar only lists mods?
1 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2017-10-14
Sure: https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2Freddit.com&subject=Vote%20Manipulation
1 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2017-10-14
Actually if you look at the votes they've been fixed already, guess someone already pinged them.
1 notyourbrah 2017-10-14
i need that
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
14min old and sacked with downvotes. Weird
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
That’s what I’m talking about
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
For reference, at the time of this comment, almost everyone is at -6. Regulars here will understand how strange that is. We get downvoted, but not like that, and not that fast.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Right, and this only started happening in the past few days and A LOT of accounts that are less than a month old are all over the comments...they’re trying to bury new content and their comments make the sub look really bad
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Even me posting this post takes away from why we’re all here, we should be looking at why Jesus Campos checked into a clinic as per my last link but it’s buried
1 mybluejeans 2017-10-14
Jesus “3rd Rail” Campos
1 Some-Sort-of-IxFx 2017-10-14
It doesn't help that people keep posting the same junk over and over again -- and not even just the same news/topics, but the same exact links and same exact titles. So you come to the page and it looks exactly like it did a few hours ago and assume there's been no new activity, when in fact, the new activity is all buried beneath these broken record re-posts.
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-14
Are you reporting identical re posts?
1 Some-Sort-of-IxFx 2017-10-14
No, should I be?
1 Deadlyaroma 2017-10-14
Yeah
1 Some-Sort-of-IxFx 2017-10-14
11 downvotes in 30 minutes for this innocuous comment? Wow!
1 LURKS0HARDRIGHTN0W 2017-10-14
This account is new but it's because I had to step away from my 8 yr, 10 times guided account; the PM's and downvotes around Vegas discussion were indomitable.
I'm afraid to log back in my inbox is probably filled with toxicity. I'm used to "that theory is moronic gtfo" responses from time to time, but the sheer, flat "you're a fucking idiot" type commentary just clogged up any decent discussion I was trying to follow in my inbox. Being on mobile I don't know how to block users.
The Vegas happening is fucking sideways. To say otherwise outs you at this point. Nothing ads up and it doesn't take more than some light research to realize how backwards it all is.
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-14
I'm just now noticing while checking threads I commented earlier, comments that were highly upvoted earlier are now in the neg. I think we have guests.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Exactly
1 BlazerMan420 2017-10-14
I noticed it too. I confirmed something in another thread with more detailed and was downvoting lol
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-10-14
Yeah, it's been weird here today.
1 MR_CHNYD 2017-10-14
That sort of behavior is very deceptive on Reddit...often I will post my thoughts and before I go to bed maybe I will have a few upvotes/agreement. Then I go to bed and wake up to extremely negative downvotes. It just goes to show how the acceptable norms/narratives are pushed.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Are you noticing the heavy downvoting happening right now?
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
Just started picking up on it 30min ago. Wtf
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
Jey do you remember the other week, I think it was the day or day before the shooting we had this problem with instant downvotes. I kept getting - 10 and so did alot of other users
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
Well, it is happening again. And it is affecting both side's partisan hacks in this thread equally too. Strangest shit.
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
Im seeing that. Is there any big events (concerts, protests or anything like that) tonight or tomorrow that would be used to push the vegas thing under the rug.
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
I dunno, but I just ran the Strip, and around the shooter area, and it was packed. Vegas has a short short memory.
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
Yes it does. Nothing happening here in st.louis.
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
I'm gonna go straight off the deep end here, haha. Chicago has had a ton of Mothman sightings!
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
Ha I I'm not the biggest believer in to the supernatural stuff due to my mind can't even conceive the thought of it
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
But have they
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
Sure, people have been reporting sightings. And supposedly they are harbingers of disasters. I'm not quite so far gone I believe that. But it's notable.
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
You know what your right on that
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Combined with what was posted about the OP walking their dog in park in Chicago and seeing all those men gathered and speaking Arabic with backpacks...
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
I saw that, any big events up there coming up
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Tuesday is the NCLS game 3 at Wrigley
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
That will probably have heavy security
1 ZiggyAdventures 2017-10-14
That specific incidence happened to a few threads and started +20 to a random post. About 10-15 minutes later all comments save AutoModerator got -20.
IntellisaurDinoAlien, a mod here in conspiracy, stated he believed it was DronePuppet due to his grammar and phrasing. https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/73ntho/rthe_donald_is_brigading_rpuertorico_and/dnrq4gb/
In addition, you have this post planning to bot attack Conspiracy that was removed by Reddit Admins: https://web.archive.org/web/20170830162732/https://np.reddit.com/r/ConspiracyRight/comments/6wx3iv/how_were_going_to_beat_the_shills/
My assumption this is further bot manipulation by DronePuppet and compnay.
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
Thanks for the links and the timely response.
1 MissType 2017-10-14
WTF? This is highly unusual for r/conspiracy. Brigade or new downvote bot?
Something’s coming...
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
It was the quantity and focus that was unusual.
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
Take the tinfoil hat off bud. I assume I’m like a lot of people and found this sub because I wanted to see what all the nuts were saying about the Vegas shooting. It’s not a nefarious plot but some showdown organization. It’s a bunch of regular people that found the sub and decided to make fun of you guys.
1 NONAMEBLANKFACE 2017-10-14
What a sad life you live...
1 MissType 2017-10-14
You haven’t spent much time here as those blinkers are firmly welded on. Perhaps you’ll learn a little critical thinking during your visit. Until then I hope your life brightens as you’re clearly suffering a miserable existence.
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
You guys are weird. So many of you talk about learning “critical thinking” and I don’t think you know what that means.
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
And you you’re all projecting cause I’m happy as shit and the world you guys live in is scary.
1 MissType 2017-10-14
So why are you here? If it’s purely to mock then there’s no projection required, your existence is lonely.
1 MKULTRA_Escapee 2017-10-14
I archived this thread a few times as it was happening. A lot of comments were downvoted way outside of the norm. In the first two, it doesn't show the comments that were new but downvoted below 5 so that they'd be hidden. For some reason the archive doesn't show that, but most of the comments less than an hour old were hidden.
1 hour old thread: http://archive.is/2VtZp
2 hours: http://archive.is/m00NQ
3 hours: http://archive.is/DKMnh
1 mastigia 2017-10-14
Great idea! Thanks for recording it. I wonder wtf it was all about. New bot test?
1 gomer2566 2017-10-14
Its not strange at all. Post a thread on the russian hacking that doesnt point the finger at seth rich and watch what happens.
1 NONAMEBLANKFACE 2017-10-14
Really? Seems par for the course...
1 1111_11111_111111 2017-10-14
It's an r/conspiracy conspiracy.
1 YourMomsTrainer 2017-10-14
85% upvoted
1 paulie_purr 2017-10-14
You mean "WHY ARE ALL LIBRULS PEDOS???" isn't conspiracy content? Who woulda thunkit.
1 rocktogether 2017-10-14
Especially when conservatives do that stuff 10x's more often.
1 1_point_1_day_ago 2017-10-14
Found the bullshit hyperpartisan strawmanning. Don 2.0, amirite?
1 uhyeahokwhateva 2017-10-14
they want us to move on from Vegas.
1 Gump_Worsley_III 2017-10-14
That's exactly whats happening, I started two threads on the subject in the last 24 hours and both got downvoted without any engagement
1 LURKS0HARDRIGHTN0W 2017-10-14
And now so is your comment. Looks like you're on a list bud.
1 kybarnet 2017-10-14
I got 90 down votes for this post.
That's pretty impressive.
1 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2017-10-14
Erm.. It says six upvotes now.
1 kybarnet 2017-10-14
Look at the comment below, +90 for ‘all conspiracies are stupid’. Easy way to scout a brigade.
1 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2017-10-14
I see what you mean then, and yep, the normals have come to visit on the back of the Vegas 'event'. This happens whenever there's high profile Govt. fuckery, a few psy-op ringleaders and a whole boatload of useful idiots fresh from the latest frontpage hit piece. We can ban them but we can't stop them voting.
1 perfect_pickles 2017-10-14
casual visitors should not be banned.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-10-14
I'm new here, but I really don't see why I see this mentality keep coming up.. isn't the idea to have healthy debate? Find some semblance of truth? If I'm wrong, I want to be told I'm wrong, not just have what I think confirmed.
I've seen more evolution of theories concerning the Vegas thing, than I have in any of the wilder conspiracies I see, that only some choose to participate in.. More voices simply mean more ideas, more discussion.. I see no harm in that.
1 NONAMEBLANKFACE 2017-10-14
That would be great! But instead we just get a bunch of robots with superiority complexes parroting MSM talking points and being abusive.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-10-14
So.. to contribute here, all mainstream media is wrong, before we have even seen who said what?
I'm superior to no one. I've been proven wrong several times today actually.
Automatically dismissing anything that contradicts you is dangerous. God gave us all a brain, why can't we just use our judgement?
1 NONAMEBLANKFACE 2017-10-14
If that's what you want to take away from what I said, be my guest.
1 mikethemofo 2017-10-14
Its easy to find the mainstream narrative that is being pushed or common, look around you and you will see it and hear it. The point of this place is to do exactly what you suggested and use our own judgement in place of the judgement that is generally fed to us so that we parrot it further and not actually discussing what happened. Nothing is being automatically dismissed, its just that its easier to start at an alternative spot compared to whatever is being pushed. Sometimes its just a bunch of stupid people not accepting what does seem to be fact, but truth is fickle and subject to perception and hopefully we can sort through it and get closer to Truth.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-10-14
I mean, I'm with you, for the most part I guess. I don't blame the media for reporting what they've been told in regards to the Vegas shooter, I blame shitty police work. I don't condemn an entire news source, I look at the merits of lack of, of the individuals reporting.
In the case of the Vegas shooting, there's nothing about the timeline that makes sense. What they claimed this past Monday made the most sense, but they got called on their bullshit Friday, and are back to their bullshit story. It's clear they straight up lied on Monday to put out something more plausible, but that's not the reporters that lied, that's the law enforcement lying.
But I agree, I want to get closer to the truth. If I'm wrong I want to be told I'm wrong, and I don't think they should ban people who would tell me I'm wrong.
The sheriff in Friday said he refers to conspiracy theories as conspiracy fantasy. I think he had a point, there's people that use their imagination more than they use fact, and they get upset when someone pokes holes in their Fantasy. Then there's people who try to gather facts that they believe show that something else possibly happened. Most aren't trying to imagine what they think happened and build backwards.. they're trying to build a logical case for something, and they seem more than okay with being wrong.
All of it belongs here. There's nothing wrong with being wrong, but there's also nothing wrong with entertaining ideas that might not be so plausible. Sometimes it's that kind of divergent thinking that will reveal something useful, even if it's not the original idea.
1 Chokaholic 2017-10-14
You're definitely new here, as you're missing the point. Stick around for awhile and you'll understand what /u/NONAMEBLANKFACE is talking about.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-10-14
I've lurked here a very long time. I've seen two types of people, people who react positively to criticism, and those who react badly. The latter going so far as to call them shills and whatnot, for simply disagreeing with them. I've seen it be far more volatile than it is now, a few months ago I never would have joined..
But I've seen more moderators enforce the rule against calling people shills, allowing discussion rather than remove comments that they don't like or disagree with.
But I think the argument about "mainstream media" is where the issue is. The guy I responded to can use a mainstream source, but then accuse someone of being condescending for using one to say he's wrong.
I simply don't get it, people getting upset because of sources, or criticism. It's a discussion, and as long as everyone acts civilly, it should be allowed to continue.
I don't get upset about being wrong.. an example was that one of the pictures was photoshopped of Campos. Someone made the claim, but didn't provide the source. I said they wouldn't. Then they did. Then I couldn't recreate it.. then I found out archive.is doesn't archive each element of the page, but the picture itself was archived.. and I found out I was quite wrong. Edited my comment to show I was wrong.
I'm not upset, I'm glad there's now evidence that I can confirm myself was edited and had the wrong date. Verifying or debunking is what's going to lead to the best truth. Media is simply regurgitating what the officials are claiming happened, and it is up to us to verify or debunk what they claim.
Honestly, I think if there was a more concerted effort to evaluate what they present to us, to see if it can be debunked, would give us better ways to see what better explanation might make more sense.
But not if people here generally thinking disproving something is bad. Not if they think or assume it's so someone can feel superior.
Idk, hopefully I've clarified a bit. Discussion and debate seem healthy, and more likely to lead to us finding out what did happen, since for the most part I think we all agree, something isn't right.
1 Chokaholic 2017-10-14
Thank you for clarifying. The point is that the MSM cannot be trusted. The fact that Obama's passed a law allowing the government to use propaganda on its citizens via mainstream media, speaks for itself. Not only that, they've been caught lying over and over again. I'm sure they report some truths mixed in with those lies, but it's nearly impossible to go through each story with a fine tooth comb. The easiest solution is to write them off imo, and I think the majority on this sub feel the same way.
I do agree with you that many people do not handle differing opinions very well. Something about conspiracies can really make people get worked up in defending their ideas. I don't hang on very tightly to ideas and leave myself open to changing my mind on things, sounds like you're the same, so I apologize for being wrong about you.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-10-14
I see your reasons as far as mainstream media goes, and I agree to a degree.. but I also see who benefits from telling us what we want to hear. If people start turning to generic websites absolutely covered in ads, like many of the ones I'm seeing posted in this sub related to the Los Vegas shooting.. what's their motivation? To spread truth? Hard to believe considering the number of ads.
The idea of "fake news" has made it profitable to say anything that disagrees with what they say. Do you doubt that there's anyone here who saw that potential, because as you said, most people here agree.. isn't it likely there's many individuals that are writing what we wanna hear, truth or not, to get ad revenue, because they know we'll eat it up? Likely posting their own sites.
So now there's solid reasoning to doubt all media really. Real news because of their motives, but actual fake news, also because of its motives
In the end, I don't think blanket ignoring any source is going to leave anyone better informed. We have to question everything regardless, hope we're smarter than those that would manipulate us, regardless of the motivation to.
But you're right, I'm not clinging onto any ideas, I tend to be reserved on my judgements, but I'm pretty sure most things I believe, I'm pretty open minded about them. And I think it's pretty cool this discussion didn't turn into the typical shit show that many do here.. I think most of the time, it is because we assume way too much about the other person. I try not to, but I've definitely been guilty!
1 Chokaholic 2017-10-14
There's a big difference between differing opinions and outright lying and propaganda though, and the MSM are guilty of the latter. Therefore, if someone tries to use CNN as a source for example, then they're most likely new to the conspiracy world, or are still asleep at the wheel.
I agree with open discussion where people have differing ideas, that's how we learn and grow. At the end of the day, I want to be wrong if it means I'm getting closer to the truth, and it sounds you're the same.
And yeah, thread after thread the top comments get hijacked by people bitching at each other, while being totally off topic and resorting to personal attacks. I get it though, it hurts the ego for some people to be wrong and they take that negative feeling and attack the person who showed them they were wrong.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-10-14
Let's examine the idea of "differing opinions" though. Sure, they can float things that are opinions that differ.. but when their pure motivation is clicks/ad revenue, and technically they have no reputation to really worry about losing since they aren't a reliable source.. why wouldn't they lie, if it makes them more money.
Think about 4chan, I've seen multiple people say, even if it's wrong 99% of the time, that 1% is totally worth sifting through all those lies. Using that logic, people will choose to believe what confirms what they think, as long as sometimes it ends up being true.
Mainstream media, at most, has biased opinions. I've never seen outright lies with intent, just half truths. Stretching the truth.
I'm just not the type that thinks everything government is pure evil. I think most people at the top probably have motives that don't represent us: money for the rich, make laws against the poor, make loopholes for my rich friends.. etc.
I think some, at least, want to make things better, and though they may be distracted by those same motives, some.. aren't purely evil.
Where we might differ is on the president. Far too many seem to think he's going to drain the swamp, while he has a history of doing anything to save a few bucks. I think he's the worst swamp creature possible.
I think a Hillary presidency would be more of the same, nothing really noticeable going on.. then we have Trump, mainly just undoing anything Obama did, and when he's bored he's just dividing our country, threatening a nation with nukes, telling people who happen to mostly be black what to do during the anthem.. you know, just constantly distracting people from whatever he's actually doing that matters.
While most think every government official is likely a socio/psychopath actively trying to kill us for whatever reason.. we have a president who's obviously narcissistic, cares more about how he's perceived than the ramifications of his actions.. and motives are unclear. Destroy health care because Obama. Get in pissing match with North Korea, because.. reasons.
Why would Russia have to destabilize our country, when we have a president that is rather good at dividing, distracting, and destroying anything he just doesn't like?
1 crabsneverdie 2017-10-14
To be fair it was a shitty post
1 benadrylop 2017-10-14
haha I kind of agree with you on that.
1 HairyDonkeyBallz 2017-10-14
that reply deserves its own post. The brigades happen quick but this sub is good about eventually spitting content like this and getting it attention.
1 TidusJames 2017-10-14
my biggest issue is that people dont realize less than 150 years ago a 13 year old was expected to be married and already pregnant. there wasnt a thing about "pedophiles". the limit of "18" is a societal implementation
1 Little-nug 2017-10-14
what the actual fuck, you pedo sympathiser? 150 years ago people died before reaching 40 because of poor healthcare and spread diseases. kids started work from age 6 and never been to school. are you saying we need to bring this back???
1 TidusJames 2017-10-14
obviously you didnt read the comment linked within this comment... to which I was overall responding against by responding to the person who responded to it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/76ekgl/this_sub_is_now_overrun_by_new_accounts_posting/dodl04l/
1 butterfeddumptruck 2017-10-14
Oh well since it was fine 150 years ago it's fine now? No, the limit of 18 years old wasn't chosen at random to inconvenience you.
Speed limits are also a societal implementation.
1 TidusJames 2017-10-14
obviously you didnt read the comment linked within this comment... to which I was overall responding against by responding to the person who responded to it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/76ekgl/this_sub_is_now_overrun_by_new_accounts_posting/dodl04l/
1 ChiefLoneWolf 2017-10-14
How do you know how many downvotes you got? I didn’t know that was thing I thought you just got to see the final count? Unless it was -90 at one point?
1 waltdanger87 2017-10-14
You were initially downvoted because it reeks of neonazism and Hitler apologism.
1 canniboss1 2017-10-14
That's a repost, pretty sure I'm one of the downers
1 SpongeBobSquarePants 2017-10-14
It has been like that for months if you posted content about billionaire GOP donors or GOP related conspiracies.
1 alexman2323 2017-10-14
Because if you don't have solid evidence you can't prove it's a conspiracy..... according to the users who don't even believe that a government could possibly lie to further an agenda.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-10-14
I think a lot of people get excited when they see something, and instead of search to see if it's been posted.. I commented in a post about this this morning, that was already pretty popular by the time I saw it.
People upvote things they haven't seen, and downvote to keep posts from looking like spam when the same thing is posted multiple times.
1 We_are_all_satoshi 2017-10-14
I guess it's politically incorrect to use the phrase "Shotgun Wedding in Vegas", now?
1 The_Time_Master 2017-10-14
THIS. Same reason they have been flooding 4chan for the last week and a half with slide thread.
1 Heaviest 2017-10-14
Shill...
1 cupcakeKittycats 2017-10-14
I’m a newcomer to this sub BECAUSE of Vegas. It’s the reason I keep coming back but I have been disappointed the last week due to the lack of Vegas content.
1 uhyeahokwhateva 2017-10-14
make sure you're viewing by NEW, not HOT. A lot of stuff in this sub gets buried and it's the best way to get good information. Conspiracy or not, a lot of factual data with Las Vegas is getting down-voted massively.
1 cupcakeKittycats 2017-10-14
Thank you sir.
1 zetswei 2017-10-14
I'm a little curious why mods aren't more proactive in either consolidating posts or getting rid of blatant spam/posts linking to the same things.
1 uhyeahokwhateva 2017-10-14
I am as well. I've personally messaged them asking for such to no avail.
1 NONAMEBLANKFACE 2017-10-14
The mods here are a curious bunch. There was recently a mod coup, and most of the usurpers are sanctimonious clowns. But then again, the mod culture on this sub has been very toxic for years.
1 cupcakeKittycats 2017-10-14
Is there a r/conspiracy here?
1 housemans 2017-10-14
Well, it's possible that people look like bots, though they're absolutely like us
1 nanonan 2017-10-14
You should also be curious as to why the admins recently intervened in a mod dispute here and one of the most trusted mods quit.
1 dncisapsyop 2017-10-14
When did that happen, you got any kind of source?
1 nanonan 2017-10-14
About a month back. Where to begin. Here's an outside perspective where he responds, here's a post from the new sub he made, here's some recent post he made here.
1 dncisapsyop 2017-10-14
Fucking A. This sub is pretty good. It's easy to ignore the shills and slide threads, they are so obvious here. I hope this sub doesn't go the way the rest of reddit has.
1 zetswei 2017-10-14
Interesting. I only joined in the wake of the LV stuff
1 JustJuls37 2017-10-14
Newbie too. And I was really confused why all of a sudden it seemed like everyone stopped talking about it.
1 devils_advocaat 2017-10-14
Have a browse of Top whilst you are here, but take everything with a pinch of salt.
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
They want you guys to quit making stupid shit up about vegas.
1 Interpillar 2017-10-14
Sorry, this makes no sense.
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
It makes perfect sense. Quit making shit up about real events.
1 Interpillar 2017-10-14
I didn't say that no shit was made up, but that "they" want someone to stop making shit up is ridiculous. That's conspiracy theory amateur hour.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Example of something here that’s been “made up” about the LV event?
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
Fucking helicopters. A second shooter in a helicopter is complete bullshit.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
I haven’t seen that claim, keep in mind some people come here to post ridiculous bs just to make us all look dumb
1 HangryHipppo 2017-10-14
You're in a conspiracy sub. If you can't tolerate conspiracies, why are you even here?
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
Because the ridiculous claims make for a good laugh. But seriously, all I see here are outrageous claims about some hole in the narrative. Of course there’s incomplete information and contradictory information coming out, it’s an active investigation by numerous LE agencies and covered by 100s of media outfits. Shits gonna get confusing. It’s like you guys believe that all information collected by law enforcement should be immediately available to you. Just because there’s something that doesn’t make sense to you or information that isn’t readily available to you doesn’t mean it’s a massive conspiracy.
1 HangryHipppo 2017-10-14
Of course some conspriacies are going to be ridiculous, some are seeing things where there is nothing there. But the whole point is critical thinking and asking questions and eventually people stumble upon some things that make no sense and start to add up.
I had this discussion with my boyfriend earlier today. He's very big into conspiracies and I tolerate them but am more skeptical about some of them, I even said something similar to him- that it's an active investigation and just because they correct information doesn't necessarily mean anything. But there are other odd things about the LV shooting than just corrected information. You can easily explain one thing off but when there are a lot of holes, then something feels wrong. A lot of people making guesses will be wrong, but that's ok. There is no harm in conjecture and questioning. Questioning and being wrong is always better than blindly accepting what you're told.
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
But then you end up with people going to far, like when they started attacking the parents of the kids killed at sandy hook for being actors. That shit can hurt people.
1 HangryHipppo 2017-10-14
No, sorry. That's the same specific excuse people parrot constantly for the reason to not question any conspiracies and it's crap, to be frank. Some people are crazy, that's not going to change by not questioning things. People get hurt daily from other people's actions, that's life. One instance isn't a reason to stop talking about everything and to stop asking questions. People talking about the potential that sandy hook didn't happen didn't force anyone to harass the parents, they did that on their accord. Talking hurts no one, accepting things without question hurts everyone.
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
There is not possibility that sandy hook didn’t happen. You’re a tin foil hat wearing, wanna be Alex Jones. It bothers me that there are people like you out there. I wouldn’t trust someone like you to fly a plane I’m on or drive a bus near me or even make my McDonald’s fries.
1 HangryHipppo 2017-10-14
Lol so now the character assassinations, cute. Didn't take long. I never said I believed sandy hook didn't happen, nor could it even be implied from my post. You brought up an example of why we should never question anything and I called you out on the parroted crappy logic.
Also for the note, I have never watched, read, or listened to anything Alex Jones has said. However, it's a guaranteed attempt at an insult with people like yourself. Predictable.
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
Well you should start listening cause you and your boyfriend are exactly the idiots he targets.
1 HangryHipppo 2017-10-14
You know us so well from this 3 comment chain, remarkable really.
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
I found you on this sub. If I find something in a toilet it’s safe to assume it’s shit.
1 HangryHipppo 2017-10-14
Shit, meet shit.
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
I’m more like the toilet brush trying to clean it up and I’m getting covered in all sorts of grossness.
1 HangryHipppo 2017-10-14
Sure it is boo. Good luck on your valiant efforts, but be careful. It's a long way to fall from such a high horse.
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
I’m a bit high but my horse is sober as a judge. He’s got a job interview coming up and needs to stay clean.
1 AgainstCotton 2017-10-14
You come across as lonely really. Lonely and stupid, but what ever. Critical thinking is hard for some. If you stick around her maybe you'll learn how to challenge yourself.
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
I’m pretty lonely but I only have one more hour of work then I can party. I’m not gonna learn critical thinking here. Ill learn how to make shit up but that’s about it.
1 Heaviest 2017-10-14
With all due respect GFY... shill.
1 Heaviest 2017-10-14
Thanks. Now insert your head back up your ass. Anything is plausible. You pretend that the brightest among us are on the case, and for that your categorically defined as a dumbass.
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
I never said the Las Vegas pd or the FBI investigators are the brightest people out there but I do believe they’re more intelligent then the people on this sub. Especially considering they’re the only ones with access to the evidence.
1 Heaviest 2017-10-14
You’re insane. You just can’t spit the bit out of your mouth. You love your soma. So take another handful. I’m not wasting anymore of my time on you.
1 NoHittingTheCycle 2017-10-14
Nope you’re gonna waste your time reading Alex jones bullshit. You’re pathetic.
1 Heaviest 2017-10-14
Ha. You think I read or listen to that fool? You’re crazier than I thought
1 DashFerLev 2017-10-14
Can you give me a tl;dr on Vegas? My two questions for every conspiracy theory from Chem Trails to Fluoride to Sandy Hook are
Who is behind it?
What are they getting out of it?
1 uhyeahokwhateva 2017-10-14
Your girl, this dick.
1 DashFerLev 2017-10-14
Thanks!
1 uhyeahokwhateva 2017-10-14
If you wanted to take it seriously you'd put in research and not ask for a 'too long, didn't read' on an ongoing investigation that hasn't provided a motive and has only led the public to believe of a single entity behind the crime, from start until present.
If you had any inclination to find out if there is substance behind people's concerns regarding Vegas, you wouldn't have asked your question in the manner that you did.
1 DashFerLev 2017-10-14
I was going to take your answer at face value with the grain of salt being that it's still an open investigation.
My take is that they're still looking for a second shooter and don't want to give much up to better catch him.
1 uhyeahokwhateva 2017-10-14
That would be false. The sheriff, under-sheriff, and special agent of the FBI leading the investigation have all claimed without a doubt, there was not a second shooter.
There's plenty of information available to question their narrative in that sense. If you have any interest, put in the time. If not, good day.
1 DashFerLev 2017-10-14
Oh well, I tried.
cheers
1 iLLaDeLpH722 2017-10-14
Like youtube videos. And if its on youtube its a fact.
1 Heaviest 2017-10-14
Very soon it’ll be un-American to talk about Vegas. The jesus freak right and left wingers will say we’re pissing on the flag and that we’re insensitive to the dead. The endgame is that we’re not patriots, That we must be medicated, and taxed to death. Everything in the current MSM shitscape is sectarian overload. If you don’t pledge your soul to the machine your shit, if you sit or you stand, you’re shit. We’ve not at war with eastasia, we’ve always been at war with eastasia. FUCK THEM.
1 psycaine 2017-10-14
The fact they are trying so hard to divert our attention from Vegas is significant in itself.
1 ItsAboutSharing 2017-10-14
Reddit should just change their name to what it is:
Corporate Social Engineering edit
1 Willertz 2017-10-14
This deserves to be the real top post of r/all..
1 LongSaggyBalls 2017-10-14
Ever since Weinstein went down, the_donald has been taking trips on the short bus over here to post non stop about democrats and Hollywood being evil Satan worshipping pedophiles. I don't remember this sub being so upset when O'Reilly went down. Apparently it's much more important when a democrat goes down.
1 greenspikefrog 2017-10-14
I think it's important when pedofiles go down. Don't you?
1 LongSaggyBalls 2017-10-14
Sure. But O'reilly never received this attention here. People are just circle jerking over a democrat going down over sex stuff.
1 greenspikefrog 2017-10-14
it's a new era.
1 LongSaggyBalls 2017-10-14
Started right after o'reilly?
1 greenspikefrog 2017-10-14
If you say so.
1 benadrylop 2017-10-14
most people here hate the deep state and well... men who wear pussy hats.
1 AThinkerNamedChip 2017-10-14
Reddit is the Twitter of the internet. Maybe go someplace better and let the boots and paid folks just fight it out?
1 AlienPsychic51 2017-10-14
Hmm, sounds like a conspiracy...
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
So what? They’re so desperate to bury LV they pay people to come fuck up the sub? How obvious
1 DeoxyDeoxyDeoxy 2017-10-14
Proof that people are being paid to mess with the sub?
1 EricCarver 2017-10-14
You don't need to pay swarms of bots.
1 BushidoBrowne 2017-10-14
What makes you think they're getting paid?
1 Thizzlebot 2017-10-14
It's more interesting if we just say they are paid brah
1 dncisapsyop 2017-10-14
It's reddit. This site is filled with rabid leftists. It's sad, you don't even have to pay them. They willingly do the establishment's bidding.
1 bartink 2017-10-14
Let's make it partisan politics!
1 macronius 2017-10-14
oy vey.
1 dankweeddoe 2017-10-14
Holy shit everyone is being downvoted so hard.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Here, have a downvote for mentioning it?!
1 exicleus 2017-10-14
The down voting just makes people want to read it even more.
I think the individuals trying to advert social minds and trying too hard and it's shooting themselves in the foot.
1 Gump_Worsley_III 2017-10-14
It's always a good idea to hit the new button and up vote threads with low karma, prevents them from being buried before people can engage them.
1 Undertakerjoe 2017-10-14
This is my most frequented sub (ok second, r/gonewild is amazing!!!) & I will get bored & post some off the wall shit for fun. I have honestly seen that my BS is not down voted as hard as my actual thoughts. Example: there was a post earlier about pictures of Campos being dead im them. Some one posted "you'd be amazed at what an excellent mortician can do" I responded w/ "no, as an excellent mortician I wouldn't" instant down voting. It's in my god dammed username & I get down voted for telling a jerk he's wrong?
1 helpfuldan 2017-10-14
The amount of people wanting to discuss sandy hook was hilarious. Then the Hollywood pedo stories started flowing in. Abd just keep increasing.
1 Player8 2017-10-14
Trying to dig through new posts is like wading through a shit tank looking for a diamond that may or may not be counterfeit. Granted I'm pretty new here too but I don't post, just comment and vote.
1 MrMarmot 2017-10-14
This is what I was trying to get at last night with all the Hollywood "groping" stories. My post was locked at 0 within 10 minutes. Should have waited until the paid shifts left for the weekend.
1 MichaelBakunin 2017-10-14
Seems there's been a huge amount of ft right propaganda getting posted recently. It seemed to have does down after fly tape was removed but is jacking up again. I've noticed it all across Reddit.
1 GiveMeABreak25 2017-10-14
Recently? T_D took this place over months ago
1 Peristeri91 2017-10-14
The government is asking actors to act and get our attention. Everyone will admit to being raped just to stop us from looking up the Las Vegas massacre.
1 Thizzlebot 2017-10-14
Do you have ANY proof of any of this shit? This is why I feel this sub is going downhill. People just make general accusations and treat it as the truth.
1 GiveMeABreak25 2017-10-14
Bu-bu-bu-elsagate!
1 fridaymonkeyk 2017-10-14
Noticed that was happening right after Las Vegas. It makes sense from TPTB perspective. It makes the whole sub more noise than signal. Maybe a lasvegasshooting dedicated sub would be better with a strong mod.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
A locked one with vetted users
1 downvote-this 2017-10-14
They have a name for that...
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Lol
1 ClawOfTheWest 2017-10-14
They're called Trump supporters
1 LargeFeline209 2017-10-14
Absolutely
1 SuperPoop 2017-10-14
Flood the market. Dilute the truth. That's their new game. Fight back. Seek truth. Question everything.
1 HangryHipppo 2017-10-14
If you make up enough dumb shit, no one will pay attention to the things that may have some merit.
1 Willertz 2017-10-14
Oh like the quantum physics..
1 blaaaahhhhh 2017-10-14
It’s not new, it’s just working because more and more regulars and actual critical thinkers are getting annoyed and just coming here less meaning they dominate the front page
1 OwlYourBaseBelong2Us 2017-10-14
Today is day 7 after Hannity's "tick tock" tweet.
https://youtu.be/0xfKF-9oOis
1 Fucknbored 2017-10-14
This is new to you? You missed td doing this for the past year here but now it's news, but it wasn't back then when everyone saw the brigading start. I mean really?
1 TrumpThatBitch3058 2017-10-14
I'm a new account but only cuz I needed a new alt.
1 -Krakatau- 2017-10-14
Been that way since in turned into r/TheDonald part 2.
1 lolsupbro12345 2017-10-14
bingo...look at who runs TD and you'll know who's behind this too
1 Herculius 2017-10-14
Lol.
1 kevjay17 2017-10-14
Fuck I've been lurking for like a week and even I can see the change. It's blatant
1 iguy22 2017-10-14
Conspiracy-ception
1 Arkfort 2017-10-14
I looked into several of the obvious bogus subs. All of the users only post during major events and only post alien/ghost/flat Earth stuff. Same M.O. every time
1 GhostStories4Adults 2017-10-14
Well spotted. Why do you think that might be?
1 greenspikefrog 2017-10-14
Since forever.
1 FroggyLives 2017-10-14
Is this a conspiracy theory about the conspiracy theories sub?
1 polkadotgirl 2017-10-14
Anybody is welcome to join my sub /r/conspiracyundone.
1 forgottenbutnotgone 2017-10-14
This sub is mostly politicized now. Right vs left. The hegelian dialectic is my favorite conspiratorial angle.... how about those chemtrail-generated wildfires, eh?
1 LSPACEY 2017-10-14
i refreshed the page 4 times the scoring ; It jumped from 345 to 340 to 345 to 335.
im a new to this sub, started looking at the conspiracy sub since LV. notice aloooooot of fuckery.
1 frolix8 2017-10-14
All that bullshit about izzagate that’s not going away..
1 unbreakable141 2017-10-14
Seems like posts have far less upvotes than they where getting
1 Van-Goth 2017-10-14
That is a conspiracy theory! Just joking, i'm sure you are correct and we are all lost.
1 Reluctantkill3r 2017-10-14
Sounds like a conspiracy
1 VeryHighEnergy92 2017-10-14
We should all know by now how these slithery cunts operate.
1 ThatGuyFromNebraska 2017-10-14
"now overrun"? Where was this concern when T_D took this place over? GTFO
1 EvilSporkOfDeath 2017-10-14
Not saying you are wrong, but that would be the sort of thing that would be very easy to provide evidence for. So, why didn't OP provide it?
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Right before I made this post I had posted about Jesus Campos being admitted to a clinic. That post had 30+ downvotes in one minute and then then was buried under about 30 random non-conspiracy posts, most of those posts made by accounts that were under a month old. I didn’t screenshot each post and write down account names in the moment I just made this post. And immediately every comment here was getting up to 50 downvotes within minutes of the comments being posted.
1 EvilSporkOfDeath 2017-10-14
Firstly, all you did was provide words, not evidence. Second of all, if I were just to take your word for these things, it still wouldn't be evidence towards the thesis of this thread. The thesis had literally nothing to do with downvoted which is all you've claimed here. Like I said, I'm not saying it's wrong, but evidence would be appreciated.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
What kind of evidence can I provide now after the fact? I hear what you’re saying but since I didn’t screenshot the posts that buried the Campos/clinic post you’re right it’s just words and I wish I HAD. Luckily several mods saw what happened with this post while it was happening. We’re on the same side friend.
1 EvilSporkOfDeath 2017-10-14
So you're saying that only for a brief moment in time the sub was being flooded with non conspiracy posts from new accounts? Cause I got the impression you were implying this is the new standard.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Yes, it was slow on here and refreshing “new” wasn’t showing new content until I posted the Campos clinic article and out of nowhere refreshing “new” showed 30+ bs content non conspiracy links and the article was downvoted hard and buried. And some of the accounts were a week old, none were older than a month.
1 EvilSporkOfDeath 2017-10-14
Well the rest of this dying sub might blindly believe things but I refuse
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
I don’t disagree
1 Heaviest 2017-10-14
They sacrificed the megalomaniac sexual predator under the lens effect. Classic propaganda. Is what that piece of shit horrible, yes. However, if you didn’t think this existed, or currently exists in Hellywood you’re a goddamn fool. I don’t give a fuck about that in comparison to the blatant fuckery of Vegas. Deal with it.
1 vensorvi 2017-10-14
Nah Vegas is already solved they are infiltrated, the FBI itself.
1 Rebel_Yell27 2017-10-14
I don’t always agree with r/conspiracy.. but when I do.. It better be a legitimate claim
1 Triumphant_Triple 2017-10-14
Honest question from a newbie, how do you determine the difference between "bs" and not?
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Some were just news stories completely unrelated to conspiracy, ie posts that belong in r/news not here
1 Thizzlebot 2017-10-14
I have a hard time believing someone would spend so much resources on such a lame site like reddit trying to "clog" it up. No one takes this sub seriously besides the people here.
1 famnf 2017-10-14
Does this also mean that we should not believe claims that Russia would spend so many resources on such a lame site as Facebook trying to sway opinion?
1 Thizzlebot 2017-10-14
Facebook is WAY more mainstream but either way I would like to see some proof. Maybe people are just downvoting dumb shit or shit that's already been covered.
1 famnf 2017-10-14
Ok, so if 234 million unique visitors is "lame" and "not mainstream", then I think you need to define the point at which something becomes "not lame" and "mainstream" so that we can be on the same page.
1 Heaviest 2017-10-14
Shill...
1 Thizzlebot 2017-10-14
I do not work for BRWANDO but buy BRWANDO
1 bivenator 2017-10-14
You forget that the owners shadow modded conspiracy related content not a year earlier
1 famnf 2017-10-14
While I respect everyone's right to voice their opinion, I hope this can be gotten under control. Despite how people try to paint this thread, it is actually one of the best places I've seen for discussions. The commenters are respectful, the content is interesting and thought provoking, the tone is sympathetic to all people for the most part, not just those who agree with you. Much better than the subs with clear political slants. I think this one has a good mix of both right and left perspective, both coming from a position of wanting the seek the truth. I hope trolls don't ruin it.
1 fight_for_anything 2017-10-14
implying it hasnt always been like this.
1 runit4ever 2017-10-14
I remember coming to this sub and learning so much new and exciting information. Since the last presidential election, Reddit as a whole has just been bought/bot driven. Literally one of the last frontiers for honest opinions and open discussions, now home to the hot button topics of the water-cooler.
I wish there were more alt-history, alt-science, elite corruption, and deeper rabbit holes than the surface level junk we've all read so much of in the last year.
Lemme know if you find another sub in the same spirit who still values alternative thinking.
1 DrStevenPoop 2017-10-14
I don't know about the rest of you, but I love it when someone comes here and tells us what to think. Sure takes a load off my mind.
1 Majik9 2017-10-14
If this is true, what happened to the mods of the sub?
1 KingWolfei 2017-10-14
Lets not pretend this is new.
1 dehTiger 2017-10-14
It really started during the 2016 election and Wikileaks.
1 TheLonesomeShepherd 2017-10-14
Yeah no shit
1 RodeReiger 2017-10-14
There is a post like this every week.
1 psycaine 2017-10-14
I think in the wake of Vegas this sub blew up with a lot of genuine conspiracy threads that uncovered real discrepancies in the official narrative. There was a huge spike in the subs popularity, certain people took notice, and a new effort was made to inundate the sub with disinformation and gain control of it. Somewhere in that timeframe the Harvey Weinstein story broke...
1 SR91Aurora 2017-10-14
Wait, don't you guys care that it's been 3097 since Hannity said he would be water boarded??
1 Dihydrogen_Monoxides 2017-10-14
It's overrun by r/politics shills.
1 yallahabibcuz 2017-10-14
I also do not like the excessive pro-Trump content that is being posted on this platform.
1 Scientist78 2017-10-14
Yep it's all "Hillary is the devil" posts or "trump knew about so and so BEFORE it happened"... GTFO
1 HampsterJerky 2017-10-14
Well just down vote all the BS that is really all we can do.
1 chappaquiditch 2017-10-14
Like this post?
1 fraggle275 2017-10-14
I love this post
1 loganx88x 2017-10-14
Mods get that ban hammer out!
1 pitter-pat 2017-10-14
Pretty sure Shadow Bans are going around, and pretty sure I got one after posting on a Weinstein thread about a threatening PM I received during Pizzagate time. Can anyone even see this?
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
I see it!
1 pitter-pat 2017-10-14
Sweet, I totally agree with your post. The other day I saw a highly upvoted post about how Paddocks pic had nostrils offset that was made by a new account. COMPLETE DISTRACTION and WASTE OF TIME.
1 weareIF 2017-10-14
I see most are related but then I am late to the party and never saw what it was like before.
1 Negative_Return 2017-10-14
Take it as a compliment. It means they're scared.
1 known2own 2017-10-14
Mods should stop censoring media sources that are factually true but they just disagree with. Until that stops people will be posting in the wrong sections to get info out.
1 curiosity36 2017-10-14
The sky's been falling here for years. We get by.
1 Blend_Master 2017-10-14
Thanks for addressing this.
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
Oh just saw this comment, no I don't think you fake I was assuming you were being messed with because I haven't seen this vid yet
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-14
Im seeing that. Is there any big events (concerts, protests or anything like that) tonight or tomorrow that would be used to push the vegas thing under the rug.
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
So can admins tell what’s happening?
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
50 downvotes in one minute isn’t paranoia even the mods were saying wtf
1 onelove1979 2017-10-14
Some were just news stories completely unrelated to conspiracy, ie posts that belong in r/news not here
1 bananapeel 2017-10-14
It's only used for forum sliding. Fill the sub with nonsense, use bots to vote it to the top, fill the comments with nonsense, use bots to upvote the comments you want everyone to see (or to bury the comments from real people you don't want visible), then you have made the forum useless for the actual exchange of information among real people.