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Being a Trump supporter is not the same as being a republican.

Okay, "now he's a repub conservative." Better?

He was always on the conservative side. He is for smaller government, just like Trump.

Slashing regulations.

That's not real conservatism. -jeff34sonairplanr

Maybe people don't remember but his debut was Dec 31 1999 spewing hours of complete bullshit about y2k

why was anyone even worried. we hadn't transitioned to full-scale digital everything yet...

and it would've turned the old programs and applications back to 1900. big whoop. we wouldn't have gone back to horse and buggy suddenly, the dates would be wrong.

I'm sure businesses could figure it out by paying accountants or something at worst, and developing/fixing software, which they did early

"If anyone says anything I disagree with they're a shill!"

-fucking morons with no critical thinking skills.

I wasn't even talking about AJ. I was almost 10 when the year 2000 hit, so I remember it. all 1999 and 1998 it was all over the fucking news, they were hyping it up in the mainstream and people were buying out supermarkets and shit by the end lol.

most people still believed it was crazy -- or worked with technology and had some greater degree of understanding that regular people didn't at the time. I wasn't fortunate enough to have my own computer and the internet yet...

but still, it made no sense, most devices weren't interconnected yet anyways, they were all analog, and even as a 9-year old I knew every electronic device couldn't possible fuck up.

some/most didn't even KEEP the date on the chip.

it was really only an issue for companies, business and accounting, and I'm sure at that point they kept a lot more solid records.

like I said some businesses in Europe couldn't afford to hire the massive programmer squads we did here to fix all the bugs in corporate and consumer software datekeeping -- really all they had to do was switch the type of integer from like, 8-bit to 16-bit.

it was just a huge deal because of how much software, including OSs etc, was lazily programmed for earlier, lowerspec machines and just ported without any thought put into it.

but it affected businesses in Europe -- who just kept chugging along knowing in their head that 1900 was 2000 until you know, they bought a new system lol.

the question here Isnt is AJ a shill, its why everyone was shilling so damn hard for Y2K and making up what were clearly and entirely myths about the event specifically to tell the public via mass media?

the frenzy was entirely manufactured... it had (literally) almost nothing to do with consumers aside from the fact the date would be wrong on the VCR or PC at worst. but since NONE OF US WERE ALIVE in 1900, there were no business records on PCs at that time anyway, so it wouldn't even overwrite shit.

I just don't understand how it ever blew into such a major conspiracy theory -- bigger than that 2012 bullshit was -- when we actually had a hard definition of what the problem actually WAS in reality.

I think y2k is a good example of the disinfo that was possible to spread before the internet became what it is...

today you can just look up the basics of programming and also the y2k problem and within minutes you will see factual information based off what the problem was...

back then people were idiots in the dark and just listened to what they were told unless they were computer professionals -- who I can only assume thought these claims were patently ridiculous as I did when I started learning about computers...

Ok but some people literally are shills and it's pretty obvious that aj is one

And he's been spouting complete bullshit ever since. I think it's hilarious and fitting that only right wingers believe his paranoid delusions. Speaks volumes about their intelligence and bullshit detectors.

Yea, he has always been a fear monger but at least back in the earlier 00's he talked about more real stuff, slowly over the years he took everyone more and more off track. I stopped listening to him around 07 and started doing more research on my own

Conservative...liberal. who cares? He's serving corporate interests. Not yours. Anyone that buys the "I'm for the little guy. The common man." Is eating a load of bologna.

Humans create corporations to make their own money and naturally fuel the economy. Trump wants the average American to be able to open their own businesses. How is that not for the common man?

Trump is so far removed from the common man, he has no idea what it's like. He was born into money, his start in life was also just given to him. What common man do you know that had that start? Do you own a business?

We don't need a useless middle man though. Humans are doing labor, they are preforming a service. Why should such a high percentage of the money made go upward? Why should a CEO make millions more than their grunts when the CEOs are just as necessary as their employees, but not. That's not the mentality. It's more like "you should be thankful you have a job." "Just work really hard and you can make it". You can't have a nation of CEOs. You can't have a nation of business owners. In other words, if everyone had the "American dream", who would work at the entry level? You think only teenagers are working minimum wage jobs?

The system is inherently flawed. Any working within in the system is still acknowledging it as a thing, something that's "real". When we throw it aside, as one does when something no longer serves us, then we can make real progress. Corporations must be served by people, bar none. Why are they necessary? There is a demand and a need for products and services, we should allocate resources appropriately for this. Without the hindrance of a arbitrary monetary system, we can actually do some good in the world of everyone not just a few. That... is for the common man.

Okay, trump and anyone who's a part of the "elite" don't have to have come from a poor background to understand what its like to be poor, just like a white person doesn't have to be black to understand how racism works. Human beings have the ability to learn from other peoples experiences. It is why we record history. Trump may not have experienced being poor but he surely has comprehension of it. Just like we can comprehend what Its like to be a billionaire.

Also, the reason a CEO makes more then the one flipping burgers, or cashiering is because of what it took to become the CEO of a massive company. And of course there are exceptions like the Walmart kids. But generally speaking someone comes up with an idea, formulates a business plan, gets a loan, builds a business, hires people to help run the business and then they appoint other management to help run the business while they explore further opportunities for the company and network and build on their creation. The people who are working at the bottom did nothing but apply and interview and then do basic work for basic income. You make what you earn. Complaining about how much money the .1% has makes you exactly $0.00 an hour, but trying to join them will fill you with passion and dedication which are worth more then how much money you also will make.

It doesn't really matter if he understands, what matters if he actually cares about them. Do you think people with the averages person's basic interests at heart act like this?

I mean, he hates blood, saw blood, turned away. A lot of people do that. There are not many heroes. So yes i do think that. Hes an alpha guy who knows how to make a shit ton of money, hates being told no, loves his country so deeply he ran for fucking office while living the dream. If you look at him objectively, no bias at all, im sure you will find goodness and some hint of pride in him being president. But no i don't believe he is heroic, just head strong and nationalistic in a good way.

Not quite. There's usually a little more empathy attached, some that's required to connect with other people and care about other people.

I would expect confidence from someone who is alpha, not over the top arrogance. He's wrong about so much, misses basic details but man, does he have a mouth on him anyway.

He didn't run out of love for anything except for money and power. Why do you think he got to where he is? Saying the pledge of allegiance? The only thing he likes about America is the system itself that allows him such levels of lust for power and money, while even being celebrated for it. Pretty sad, in my opinion. And we wonder why we have issues in our country. They're feeding us a shit sandwich and calling it a filet mignon while they're eating filet mignon their selves. These people got to where they are on the backs of other people and he can't even muster up a tiny bit of empathy? Not a good way to do anything, especially when running a nation full of people.

You're making so much of that up in your head it actually feels like you're writing fan fiction. What planet are you on man? He loves this country BECAUSE he was so successful and because of our history. And don't start going on about slavery as if that's the only piece of history we have. Do you think he is just some evil hateful man who's pretending? You really believe that. Dont let your pride of sticking to your guns control you. Actually ask yourself if you believe that Donald trump HATES America and Americans and wants to hold all of us back so he can stay rich?????? As he gives up making hundreds of millions to do the most complex job on the planet and have him and his entire family slandered in the media? Racist sexist bigot homophobe transphobe islamophobe cis scum white piece of shit etc...????? You need to get out more.

You need to open your eyes. He never said Trump hates America. Just that Trump is the only thing that matters to Trump. We are pawns in this game. We do not matter to them, we are cogs in their money machine. The average cog has no chance, and to pretend that any one of us could make it if we just worked hard enough is the American Lie.

But what does trump benefit with being president vs being an independant billionaire til death? History books? And if he fails??? I can see why you think that, because its easy to fall into that trap because its a simple answer as to why you're poor and don't have what they have, and how its so hard to get there. But once you start breaking down that theory to specifics, it falls apart pretty quick. You're a nihilist, and a cynic. And while you might think you're onto something or see deeper than others into the cesspool of Washington, you don't. You're just justifying your insecurity and laziness. Man up.

Power. Legacy. Hubris.

Jesus Christ man really?

You're really adding a lot to the conversation.

I just can't believe you actually believe the shit you're saying.

Yes it gathered that from your first post. Care to elaborate why specifically?

It's really easy to pay lip service to the common man, as the deck has been stacked against them successfully having their own businesses for years and destroying the middle class.

To him, it's like telling a kid they can have a lemonade stand. What do him and his cronies care? We don't have the means or pull to be a real threat to them, or else they'll use everything at their disposal to make sure we aren't.

Damn man you are really sad inside. He hasn't destroyed the middle class. His primary mission is to rebuild the middle class. When he speaks do you just edit what he says in your head if something?

I don't listen to politicians. I wish we all lived in Obama's hope and change world, but Trump has been full of shit like the rest of them for years.

That's what's perplexing, why anyone would study all of the things hes done and lies he's told over the years, and be like, yep, that guy is clearly on our side and telling the truth!

I feel sorry for you my friend, truly, no disrespect meant. I promise you the other side you hate so much is so welcoming and friendly if you just saw for yourself. Don't let the Obamas of the world or anyone tell you how to think, just try looking at the other side of things, and see what you think! #MAGA :)

You're an idiot. Trump only cares about making the rich richer. I don't care what he says, his actions are fucking the middle and lower classes, minorites, workers, and the average american. I hope you Can see what a terrible decision you've made.

How about corporatism?

I remember when there wasn't an Infowars show that went by without mentioning corporate overlords and economic slavery. Now it's all about Trump's tweets and sjws. Literally all he talks about is trump.

Trump is a globalist. Just in case you're not trolling.

Then why exactly are the globalists out to get him? The same globalists that own MSM, haven't exactly been treating him like one of their own. So far, he's actually been undoing the past 8 years by killing off thousands of regulations. Wouldn't that be counter-productive?

Killing off regulations so that the global corporations can make a more billions while screwing the rest of us. Trump has his name on hotels all over the world. Trump is everything you should hate but you want his dick in your mouth for some reason.

Poor little retard can't think for yourself, like a good little robot, you are programmed very easily. " Trump has hotels, RREEEEEEEE!!!!" It must be hard to live with weaponized autism

Oh no the MSN and globalists are out to get meeeeee

It looks like they've already shat inside that little brain of yours. It's too bad you weren't aborted coat hanger style like you should have been. Just another crybaby vagina who lives in his parents basement screaming "muh oppression"

Projection

Watch some old AJ videos when George W. Bush was POTUS.

He was just as furious with him as he was with Obama.

With Trump, we have a new game in play.

A political unicorn emerging from the swamp.

MAGA

blink if your operator is standing behind you.

I laughed at first.. but these accounts that spend at least 70%+ of their time defending Trump or those who are pro Trump are highly questionable. Say Hillary won, and these people were trashing her all over the place.. I wouldn't be going all over Reddit to defend her.

It's that they put so much time and effort into something so meaningless than makes no sense.. and some of them do it like a full time job (that flamingo person for one)

No, MSM Megyn Kelly plants attack AJ

Exactly - the MSM would not run hit piece after hit piece on a plant

AJ has been this way sine his early 20’s when he got started. He is bombastic and over the top, but the man is a legit patriot in my book.

MAGA

How many extra chromosomes you have?

Trump serves and protects the elite. His followers are heavily manipulated. It's sad to see, because without him I think they might actually be supporting someone like Ron Paul, or not talking about race and sjws all day but instead talking about the Fed scam, the military industrial complex, the bilderbergers. You know, things that actually matter. The 'divide and conquer' method is so visibly effective here. We argue with each other over football players kneeling while the elites continue to tighten the chains of economic slavery. Trump was meant to distract from issues that our survival depends on, and he's doing an amazing job.

I'd certainly say he is a Republican.

If the DNC was able to manipulate the system so Bernie had no chance the there's no reason to think the Republican party wouldn't do the same to Trump if they didn't like having him around.

there's no reason to think the Republican party wouldn't do the same to Trump if they didn't like having him around.

They tried everything in their power to do that. With the numbers Trump got, it was just impossible to get rid of him. It would've been the end of the Republican party.

You can still see how Rhino-Republicans are trying to obstruct Trump's agenda. The Democrats would be doing the same had Sanders become president.

With the numbers Trump got? He did worse than Romney in a lot of states and total vote wise they were comparable. He got less votes than Obama in the 2 elections he won (and less than Hillary even in the election she lost). Trump didn’t have such a giant following that he couldn’t have been pushed out if the RNC wanted him out. Bernie had tens of thousands of people showing up for his rallies too and the DNC was able to block him.

Dude, the RNC ran, what... 9 other candidates against him and they all got their asses kicked.

Romney's votes from 4 years ago and Hillary's numbers are irrelevant.

They are relevant if you are talking about how it would have been impossible to block Trump from getting the bomination because of his massive numbers. His numbers were comparable to other candidates.. he wasn’t pulling in 10 million more people than previous candidates. If they wanted to block him they could have blocked him. He would have gotten the Ron Paul treatment instead of nonstop media coverage.

As someone who was a Paul supporter, he had a fraction of the votes, supporters and even less of the media savy that Trump has.

The difference between the Dems and the Repubs is the Dems actually cheated Clinton to the win. The Repubs did every dirty trick in the book, but within the rules, to crush Trump. At the end of the day, even though they all hated him and they even continued to work against him, they listened to their voters.

What dirty trick did the Republicans use? There was a ton of shit they could have attacked Trump with nonstop and they didn’t. Meanwhile Trump was linking Ted Cruz’s father to the jfk assassination.

They did attack him nonstop. Proof you didn’t follow the primaries. And Trump didn’t. He simply mentioned the National Enquierer article about Cruz once that they were ignore it, while covering EVERY fake scandal on him.

I did follow the primaries. When did republicans attack him for the sexual assault claims against him? Or the rape claims from his former wife? Or attack him about Trump U being a fraud nonstop? Or his toes to Epstein? They didn’t do any of that. That would have been “dirty tricks.” Attacking him for being inexperienced or unqualified isn’t dirty.

They did all of that ad nausea. Thanks for exposing how you didn’t follow the primaries.

No they didn’t. You are flat out lying. The media talking about shit isn’t the same as the candidates bringing it up during interviews and debates. Not once did a candidate mention sexual assault allegations against Trump during one of the debates.

Wrong. They talked about it CONSTANTLY. 24/7.

With Hillary? His debate with Hillary was after the primaries. When did Republicans in the primaries bring it up? They didn’t.

That tape didn’t drop until the second debate.

He had sexual assault allegations against him since the 90s. He settled claims against him from employees decades ago. When did a republican in the primaries talk about that? They didn’t. Now you’re talking about the general election. Of course the democrats will bring that shit up. The Republicans in the primaries didn’t though. If they were so afraid of Trump being their nominee and were using “dirty tricks” to try and stop him why didn’t they bring that shit up even once?

Republicans brought it up in the general.

Which has nothing to do with what they were talking about when you decided to jump into the debate they were having. If you wanna prove the dude wrong, start by reading what they're talking about, and providing some sort of evidence that shows they're wrong about what they're actually talking about.

Or, you know, admit you have nothing to prove them wrong and move on. Continuously saying "nuh-uh, you're wrong because I say so" doesn't make you look very intelligent dude.

Nice projection. Thanks for proving my point exactly.

Define what you even think projection even means. You must be thoroughly dense, you're still not recognizing that no one was talking about the general election. They were only talking about the RNC primary, before you came in here and started babbling about the general election.

Mom drop you on your head a lot? Or is English just not your first language? Provide any evidence that the RNC was attacking him before he was a nominee, or at least realize this entire time you've been talking about something that has absolutely nothing to do with what they were talking about.

Also, learn what projection means, using it incorrectly is a quick indicator you're not worth talking to.

Wrong. We were talking about all of it.

They ran 9 candidates against him to try and dilute his votes, they attacked him at every turn, they even agreed with and endorsed democrats over him for God's sake. You saw the uni-party rear it's ugly head.

They didn’t run 9 candidates against him.. those candidates were running before Trump announced he was running.

• Trump isn't part of the deep state.
• The deep state control our elections.

Choose one.

Why chose? they could be both correct, only some made an error with controlling the elections. Or some thougt that Trump would not be chosen in any case, so some did not do their best job.

There is a third option.

• The deep state controls the elections, except for when its my guy, then he can't possibly be part of the deep state. He caters to meeeeeee!

Ahh, that's also a possibillity, but i do not think it's correct.

I'am not from America so i am following the whole soap from a distance. But i do have some thought about Trump and i still think he is doing a great job. But as i said, i am viewing from a distance and it's much harder to see when you are part of the circus.

As an American, let me assure you you're wrong.

We'll see about that :)

We already are so far as I'm concerned. I really wish you were right, and he wasn't going to run my country further into the ground...but I know better than to be hopeful of people like him doing much good.

Like i said, it's easyer when you are not part of it.

I'll try to explain what i see .I had typed something out before in a topic about the break of the climate accord, so i'll just copy paste and add some.

Don't know if i am right, i am Dutch and just looking from a distance at the American system and try to figure it out.

I see Trump as a goldfisch thrown in a shark tank.

Trump thought he new all the rules and tricks that comes with doing buisness and he thought running the country was like playing the same game on a bigger level. But seeing he is a selfmade man he was not aware to the "evil plans" and connections of the real PTB and he was left out of a lot of information.

Now he is finding out that the rules and even the entire game is very different as he tought and friends are turning into enemies without him knowing why.

The covernment is corrupt to the bone and is playing a whole different game with a whole new set of rules. And if you don't know the real game and the real rules you will fail in your work. This also explains why there are Builderberger people in Trumps government, i think he did know of all the conections, he just did not know the more evil parts of them. And i have a feeling that Trump, even now he is president, is not beeing told the (complete) truth and he is trusting on the wrong people or presented false information.

This is Trump now, struggeling to get a grip on the situation, trying to find out who and what to trust, trying to find the truth. And now he is learning the game, the rules and how to play and he is becomming aware the consequenses of it.

Quitting the Paris agreement is, to me, a huge move and is pointing in the direction that Trump still is fighting for the right cause. This might seem controversial and look likes i don't give a fu.k about our world, but is see the world in a whole different way as mainstrean everything promotes. In my world free clean energy should be availeble for everybody, but if you remove the oil the whole system of TPTB falls together, so you can't promote this in the current time, especially not when you are a president.

The Paris agreement cost a lot of money and, to me, it is not well spend and is keeping people from beeing independent. Trump might know the secret of free energy also, the Trump family is linked to Nicola Tesla and i would not be surprised if they got his resurch.

But if the president would bring out this info too soon all hell will break loose, there for it might be better to play it like he does now and save a lot of money from useless articles now and bring on the real change later on.

I also can see it in all the mainstream media reporting about Trump, the blatent bias shines throug everything. The Rusland narrative has started in the end term of Obama and the media are still running with this, eventhough the whole story falls apart at the seems and is quite possibly the exact opposite as they are reporting.

And there are many more pointers to Trump fighting for the "good", but somehow they all are bend to the opposite or burried. This too says a lot for me and this is also why i do not believe the mainstream narrative. The same goes for the polaire media as Reddit, Twitter and Facebook, here is also a very big push back on both Trump as wel as the truth.

Ah well, i might just see it all wrong and i am also being tricked into believing in Trump, but for now i still have a little bit of hope left.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

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You tried to make a binary argument that you say leaves us only two options. Unfortunately, I don't buy into any of this, including the OP.

Alex Jones is not a plant. He's just who he is. There's no reason to think he's anything other than that, although I can understand people making an argument he may be part of limited hangout. If he is part of limited hangout, I'd argue he's not aware of that and thinks he's independent.

Trump is not part of the deepstate, but he is likely getting controlled to an extent by them as he's complying with them more now. This happened likely because he was having issues with them refusing to do what he wants and he's trying to work with them to accomplish things. He should have drained the swamp instead as he said he was going to.

The deep state does not control elections, but could if they decided to. The electronic voting machines are easily hacked, and this would be how they would. The 1% controls the elections quite well however with their influence from lobbyists and their wealth via donations and even sponsoring protesters.

The 1% controls the elections quite well however with their influence from lobbyists and their wealth via donations and even sponsoring protesters.

Trump is the .01%.

Yes he is and that's how he funded his campaign. He also goes against the majority of them.

And now he's funding himself with taxpayer money by overcharging us all for his stupid golfing. One third of the time. He's a thief.

RINO = republican in name only, which is what you're saying trump is. in this argument RINO republicans should be trying to support everything about trump. so actual republicans would be against him, as you said in your first sentence. no?

The vast majority of Trump supporters have a history voting straight Republican.

The vast majority of trump supporters had no other viable choice. Robbing the GOP which is technically the DNC with another name was much wiser than running independent. Now, the GOP can be purged of the bullshit and made great again.

When was the GOP great?

It doesn't change the fact that Trump supporters were just plain ol' Republicans, but more racist and/or religious than average.

In a two party system a vote for one party is a vote against another. The vast majority of Trump supporters have a history voting against the Democratic party.

You know this how?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/06/05/why-u-s-elections-are-all-about-voting-against-something-and-not-for-it/

Ah, cool. Scroll up to the OP though. If they are mostly voting against Hillary, they aren't really Trump supporters.

It's a sad thing when someone is preaching and they aren't genuine.

steve pieczenik and robert david steele got to him.

Who? And how?

Psyop

You still haven't told me which parts of the Bill of Rights you think the government should be able to ignore.

When can I expect an answer?

Piezcenik's resume includes being a CFR member, working under Kissinger, and being an expert at "psychological warfare". No reason to distrust him!

Just ask his Rolex about it

Money talks... All I have to say.

The current Alex Jones is a reptilian who devoured the authentic Jones of a few decades back, nothing left of him except an outer shell.

The CIA

can you tell them to deliver it to me in one of those fancy black vans?

from Mr. Nice Guy

The one who knocks?

“From you Dante!”

I wanna talk to Sampson!

Once he took a complete 180 on pizzagate after being threatened, I was 100% sure he was a controlled opposition. He disabled comments in that specific video and in the few videos after that, people were calling him out on it in the comments.

Yea that could also be a probability as well. He's used to push more divide and conquer bullshit, that's how I see it at least.

Video URL?

So he should of allowed himself to be sued and lose everything? That means he's controlled?

should of

Did you mean should've?

I am a bot account.

There's a bot for that?

ThankGod !

Should of listened ...

should of

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I love you bot!

But I should of listened better in school. I reckon.

facts

When real shit like pizzagate comes out watch how the so called "truthers" react - then it is clear to know who's a plant and who's not

real shit

pizzagate

Pick one.

I know right? It's like, would I do better playing dominos on pizza or pasta?

As long as the cheese is fresh.

The best disinfo has a grain of truth implanted within.

True. Alex Jones is always on the right path using elements of truths but then goes way off with his nutty alien/lizard rants and pro-Trump comments designed to make the truth look ridiculous.

Yes in general lately I have gotten very unsettling vibes from AJ. Those who seek and speak the truth tend to have an air of sobriety and plainneas in the midst of chaos as their ultimate goal is to find the real truth (which requires steady skepticism) and help others understand the truth (which requires clear communication) . AJ seems less and less interested in the truth these days and more interested in sensationalism.

It's his job at the end of the day. For us on here it's a mere hobby or something we're passionate about- not something we rely on for income. It's not surprising Alex has monetised people like us by being sensationalist. I think he's also saw the opportunity to exploit right wingers during the campaign hence his support of Trump.

He doesn’t say anything about aliens..

Check out his podcast with Joe Rogan. He discredited himself massively in it.

Why? Which episode? What was the subject?

I don’t necessarily agree with him on everything btw

The latest one where they got high AF. If you YouTube it you'll find it. They were talking about government conspiracies and Alex went off on one about aliens and some other shit. He's pretty incoherent. I wasn't even sure what he was trying to get at. That's the kind of stuff that discredits him though.

So he’s not even allowed to talk about aliens yet you are? Aliens are not a normal feature of his show. He almost never mentions it except when talking about how the MSM lie and says he talks about reptilians and aliens.

I think you're missing the point. Going off about aliens gives the MSM and deep state ammunition to make him look like a loony which is the last thing free thinkers like us need. How can we encourage others to join in free thinking when they associate conspiracies with Alex Jones who then link him with crazy rants.

MSM just edits him together out of context, which debunks them.

How is the casual listener supposed to know that? The less you talk about aliens and present yourself as wacky the less ammunition they have to discredit you.

Casual listeners are idiots so who cares? If you listen to something out of context you’re just an idiot.

If we can't persuade these 'idiots' to open their minds then we'll be stuck in the same system, forever.

We will be. Did you honestly think you could defeat them?

Haha

You're totally right, these guys just don't see it yet. Maybe they never will.

He's a propagandist and is taking money from Mercer.

Some people on this sub are simply obsessed with Jones. They will post all day long about how bad he is. Fine - simply do not watch him? Don't go to infowars.com. How hard is that.

I'm not a fan of the Young Turks but I've never felt the urge to bash post about them incessantly.

Some people on this sub are simply obsessed with Jones.

Some of them are a little too earnest. It's almost like they have an agenda..

Alex Jones was around way before Bill Cooper died.

OP didn't have his bone broth today 😅

Seriously, I tune into alex on a pure comedy basis. If you want to look at his credibility just let his previous employes tell you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy8YAagv60s&t=

Ex-employees grinding the axe....lol

You got him now. And a bone broth joke, wow you really changed some minds.

And yet you still tune in and support the InfoWar.

We need more AJ like folks in this world.

omg Trump is racist! Alex jones is such a shill. dont listen to infowars! theyve been warning aobut a one world government, but they are liars! if you listen to infowars you are a supporting a shill. alex jones is a zionist jew israel spy with russian connections that is totally a shill. I mean when he exposed bohemian grove and exposed 911 attacks, and exposed eugenics and omg when he exposed flouride in the water and omg when infowars exposed vaccines and omg when infowars says things that the MSM will never even talk about, that was so shilly. They are bad, trust me and the other threads that talk about alex jones being bad. he is bad i said so and that is that OKAY. AGREE WITH ME AND OBEY!

I hear you but what’s the strongest evidence for this. I’m open to this ...he Does get ALOT of mainstream attention...he was on “The View” & had a piece in “Rolling Stone” for christ’s Sake.

Usually, if someone is legit - they just ignore them or kill them.

Evidence is abundant to anyone with the internet. The deciding factor is within yourself. I can't say for sure Jones is 100% shill, he may just be genuinely successful and very nuts. The CIA may have been fucking with him for years (I think they fucked with Cooper for sure). The strongest evidence for Jones are very select clips you can find on youtube and the like. Clips where Jones carries the water for Israel, tries to say that Arabs run Hollywood, absolutely loses his mind about Hillary Clinton and says she's a goddamn demon and precedes to argue with the voices in his own head (this last one happened after I stopped watching his show on a regular basis).

Take it from a guy like me. From Peter Jennings and Baba Wawa, to CNN, to Glen Beck, to Orielly, to Jones, to Rense, to Icke. They've all got their own agendas. Many things can be learned from all, but don't think for a fucking second these people are here to help you.

I agree with you about the specific things you referenced they are VERY suspect.

Can you name 1 human being who does not have their own agenda?

Are we all deceiving and fooling each other, each shamelessly, yet cleverly advancing our personal agendas?

@ItsAJackOff - what is your agenda?

are you here to help?

are you advancing your own interest?

You would be correct in assuming everyone has their own agenda.

Mine being to absorb and exchange ideas and hopefully discover truths and lies for what they are along the way.

Alex's agenda isn't this. Maybe at one time it was quite similar, but his agenda now is survive and thrive at any cost. The truth being the sacrifice in exchange for more airtime and more revenue from his his more hardcore financially independent audience.

He says what his biggest supporters ($$$) want to hear. Take it how you will.

YES!!!

Yes, when he goes off on those rants about Hillary and Obama smelling like sulphur, he just loses all credibility. He's setting CTs up with a ridiculous strawman that the opposition can easily disprove.

Not necessarily....

They ignored AJ for years, if not decades.

Trump was on the show during the campaign and HRC mentioned his comments multiple times in speeches, same as Obummer.

That’s another thing I don’t trust. All of Hillary & Obama’s shit they say is scripted & purposeful so I wonder why they want to draw attention to a him...maybe it’s just because he’s the most popular. IDK

They miscalculated.

They thought the US was a gone, filled to the brim with cucks, BLM and SJW.

They were very wrong.

Those groups are outspoken minorities.

The silent majority woke up out of a trance in 2017.

Good point.

The real threats are killed. Alex Jones is safe because he does more to discredit truthers than push the movement forward. The Illuminati does not give a shit if their secrets are known by some people, as long as the masses consider it 'absurd' or 'offensive'. The people who actually start to reveal the extent of the network Satanism and Pedophilia in our government are QUICKLY silenced. Infowars is about 20% credible truth and 80% complete fucking non-sense that can easily be proven false.

It’s totally possible he’s a plant, although I don’t buy it. This is a guy who has consistently exposed globalism as the cancer it is. You describe him as a wacky nut job... I’m going to go ahead and assume you don’t even watch InfoWars. He’s never seemed that way to me, an avid watcher. Do you think millions of people are tuning in to a wacky nut job? “He makes theorists look bad.” You have absolutely no evidence to point to that proves this. Why does the worst theorist have all these viewers?? Make no mistake. The infowar exists, and knowing is half the battle.

You are free to believe that. I actually loved him on Piers Morgan but not for the right reasons. Alex's abrasive style is divisive to many. Entrancing to a few. I was once entranced. After awhile though, you see that his method of action is great for amassing himself a small fortune, but not so great at actually producing change. He's not the first maverick, he won't be the last, so please let go of your cognitive dissonance. A tarnished Alex Jones doesn't negate his truths, it only makes it easier to spot his lies. Look into how often Alex Jones criticizes Israel. Look into why. There are many factions of Elite. Some are globalists, some are nationalists. Some are religious, some are secular. It's not all black and white. AJ, by choice or by gunpoint, is leaving certain things off the table and saying some extremely insane shit from time to time that is not helpful to the truth movement.

His style seeks to further the divide, he cements us in with our confirmation bias but pushes those who didn't already believe further away in his madness and aggression. I find it totally plausible the intel spooks are and have been driving him crazy for awhile so it may not be all organic but it's totally there plain as day. From one seeker of truth to another if you fail to find any such clips, I will gladly fire up the search engine and gather them for you.

Even if you had proof that Alex Jones is a nationalist elite, doesn’t change the fact that the system he is constantly pitching (free market, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights) sounds a lot more attractive to your average person than what the globalists are constantly pitching (1 World Government, and Hollywood runs the show). Look at how Hollywood is collapsing. Those “few” you say are entranced by Alex Jones style has actually risen to a hell of a lot more than a “few.” And he’s 100% a part of the truth movement exposing Hollywood for the pathetic shit show it is and always has been. Also, and no disrespect, you seem to be making some illegitimate claims here like the OP. You claim he’s “saying some extremely insane shit.” What are you referring to exactly? He says a lot of insane shit that always happens to end up being true. “His style seeks to further the divide.” I’m sorry but this is just false. If his style is seeking to do this, he’s been failing himself greatly because all he’s managed to do is create a movement and bring millions (literally) of like-minded people together in order to fight globalism with information. I understand he’s just reporting news at the end of the day, but he just so happens to be the most watched news reporter in the history of America. In fact, you can argue Alex Jones is causing a divide... a divide between the globalist elite and the rest of us, and thank God he’s doing that. Helps us identify who and what we’re up against.

wacky nut job = shill talk

pay them no mind....same ass clown show said Trump has no chance of winning....lol

The InfoWar is real, and the battle is on for hearts/minds.

Preach on my friend! I wish us ALL good luck in this battle.

Alex Jones has always been more aligned with libertarians and constitutionalist. It just so happens, that for the first time in WHO THE FUCK KNOWS, a guy running to be president checks off a lot of those check marks (that a libertarian such as myself) said FUCK IT, and threw his support in. If the "powers that be" really wanted Trump to be the guy, you would have witnessed positive Trump propaganda by the MSM, and we all know that DID NOT happen. So, with the possibility of this being the last election to reclaim power from true authoritarianism, I completely understand AJ throwing his full support in. I truly believe he was the last hope, before that last falling domino.

Go ahead! I'm ready for the downvotes!

Upvote from me....you are spot on.

Don't mind the shills......they are not sending their best.

MAGA

Praise Kek

Not a cult

"Cuck beta" cult. Am I "redpilling" right?

Youll make a fine centipedophile.

Coming from someone with a username like that...

Can you go back to r/politics already?

Oh, is that where people go that arent a part of the cult that thinks trump is a genius?

I think CNN or MSNBC is where you’ll find cucks that share your views.

Enjoy the next 7 years of Trump.

MAGA

Definitely not a cult of braindead losers. Nope. Definitely not.

Is there any other kind of cult?

I wouldn't know.

That's not how it works. Voting machines are very easily manipulated and controlled, just one of the ways that presidents are anointed, not elected.

Plus, you're right, the exact appeal of Trump is that he appealed to the disenfranchised conservative voters. Would any of them been persuaded by the media they don't trust? Quite the opposite, it would have made them realize that he was just another slick-tongued politician being shoved down our throats by the establishment, saying the right things, while in reality selling snake oil...

It's still dumbfounding to me that people think Trump cares about the common man, when every action he's ever taken has suggested the opposite. Electing Trump wasn't going against the establishment, it was just taking out the middle man.

Thank you. We really don't need this place filled with trump supporters. That's not what this place is about. There's a divide and conquer strategy that has always been at play in America and "the Donald" plays that role like no other. He's got a cult following that swears any criticism is CTR. He can do no wrong. He's draining the swamp right? By filling his administration with billionaires and selling cabinet positions and director positions to the highest bidder. It's business as usual and the common man hasn't benefited in the slightest. Surprise surprise. He's not our lord and savior. Turns out he's an old white billionaire who has never once in his life experienced what just being a normal person is like. He's so out of touch with reality and people think he's going to save us. No one makes it to the office of president without selling out the American people. And he's just playing his role of dividing the country like no one before him could. He's as much of an enemy of the Jewish controlled media as two pro wrestlers.

Trump is a white supremacist piece of shit who didn't drain the swamp but in actuality, filled his administration with swamp creatures. You are a fool if you believe him to be any different than the serpent woman.

Word. . . it baffles me how dumb Trump supporters are. They need to open their eyes

I honestly dont think he gives a fuck enough to 'be' anything, let alone a 'white supremacist' or whatever else - he just doesnt give a fuck, about anyone. He just wants to be paid attention to, and he's interested in more money, more power. He's just a fucking cunt. But a dumb, lazy cunt - he's not anything. He's just a dumb fucking cunt. Nahmean?

Can you say cunt one more time I am not quite sure what you mean?

dont be a cunt.

He means Donnie boy is a miserable cunt.

Trump is not a libertarian or constitutionalist. He's been shutting on the constitution since before he won the primaries and...You know what fuck it. You're a trump-supporting Alex jones watching delusional retard. You don't live in reality. You are what's wrong with America. Fuck you, seriously.

I think you meant *shitting, you triggered little Resistard

Fuck off nazi. You have no idea what a libertarian or constitutionalist is if you think trump is one. You're a horrible person and painfully stupid. The rest of The world is laughing at how gullible and childish you are. Fuck off white trash hillbilly.

Who said I was white?? I bet my cock is browner than your shitty ass hole

So childish

Don't make me grab your pussy

Just like your cult leader/favorite sex criminal!

Wrong! I never voted for Bill Clinton

Read the rules please

The idiots always try to discredit Alex with this pizzagate apology, as if it's so unbelievable for TPTB to get the upper hand in one instance and force Alex to back off or be sued. He never pushed the kids in the basement of a pizza parlor. He apologized for doing something he never did to cover his ass.

Trump is neither a libertarian nor a constitutionalist. Does a constitutionalist talk about revoking the license of the free press and spend most of his time bullying them? No, they don't. Go read what Cato, the libertarian think tank, thinks of Trump. They hate him. And he has no problem using big government to increase his power. What kind of libertarian milks the government by staying at his own properties and overbilling for it?

You mean a slandering free press that has indoctrinated many impressionable minds that result in violent incidents like congressman and country music fans being shot? 95% of media coverage has been negative towards Trump, and you think he's the bully? Limiting the size and scope of government while reducing taxes are the core beliefs of libertarians, and so far he's on track to keep those promises

He's not on track to keep any promise. Da fuq are you smoking?

His campaign spending and taxing proposals would explode the deficit.

It doesn't matter what you think about the press. Its in the first amendment of the constitution for a reason. And taking away their license to publish because you don't like what they are saying is precisely why its there.

You are brainwashed.

I don't like AJ because his program is nothing but shitty commercials and nonsense about juice boxes making everyone gay.

I don't consider him a shill, but rather a sellout. He'll jump to whatever 'topic du-jour' and get people riled up and laugh all the way to the bank. He can't do that if he pisses everyone off. So he'll drop a story now and then.

At the end of the day all he really cares about is his bank account. Slightly different than a CIA plant.

Had a sneaking suspicion about this for awhile now. Bill Cooper was the real deal, obviously since he was killed.

It's so fucking obvious. Maybe people just aren't that smart, i used to want to give them the benefit of doubt, and say they're just manipulated and easily led around because all the mind control scrambled their brains, but, Sorry humans to say this but you need to pay attention and get your shit together, learn some discernment and logic and critical thinking.

If you want to know who he works for try asking him about the jesuits or Knights of Malta, try asking him about it in a comment or something i guarantee you it gets censored

Dumbest shit I've read in a while on here. You are confusing left and right with Democrat and Republican. Ron Paul, Trump, Alex Jones, they all know the Republicans are full of shit even though they run as Republicans because its a rigged two party system and you must. Very low level of thinking in the OP post. If God himself ran as a Republican, would you call anyone who supported him a plant? lol

If you know your Bible you'll know there is literally 0 chance God would run as a Republican.

Socialism never want works, nor does it's sister Communism. Not for the people, anyway.

I thought most CTs were libertarian or anarchist.

Fear mongering at its best right there. "We're all gonna die, but before we do, click my monetized links and buy all this shit so you can prep for the end of the world." End quote.

While I do think (to the credit of all involved) his show does do something for getting people to difficult first step, or maybe more fittingly, see the rabbit hole, that's a really small step looking back in perspective. The problem is most people often don't get to have the perspective of looking relatively far back as I describe because their development of knowledge is caught up in a bunch of questionably verifiable, non-actionable, bumper sticker, cookie cutter, criminally negligent, mainstream alternative media that, more often that not, tells you what they think you want to hear (and they're usually right.). So I suggest to the bottom 95% of us, maybe generalize to ones that look over where they're not supposed to, try to remember, "If you're not confused, you don't know whats going on." The top 5% already tend to.

Am I saying everything Alex Jones says is garbage? No, the most you'll get out of me is judging every claim piece by piece, and maybe a suggestion to avoid becoming the victim of one's call to arms one way or the other. That, and I'll drop a 83k word article on Alex Jones, his background as well as his superclass ties, as well as a few links below I've posted in comments before on the topic of past people "telling you what they they you want to hear". I feel like a broken record with these, but its a case where imo the source(s) are often required reading tier and its being slept on because these walls of text and drier, thorough video documentation are in competition with the 15 minute dopamine hit, the hot topic videos of people wildly speculating about "something strange happening". I digress.

1. "Alex Jones of Infowars Admit to CIA and 'Army Special Forces' Family; Supports Death Squads, Dictators, Drugs, Disinformation ... and the CNP" Joel v.d. Reijden, ISGP-Studies.com

As usual, the article became much longer than expected. Less usual is the considerable amount of philosophizing and theorizing in the last two segments. The fact is, despite his admission and despite everything already established in ISGP's Cult of National Security Trolls article about Jones' new age sister show Coast to Coast AM, at this point it can't be proved with absolute certainty that Jones is CIA. What has more or less been established beyond reasonable doubt though is that he clearly is an agent of influence for the conservative establishment. That alone should disqualify him from being accepted as the public face of the modern conspiracy movement, as his opinions and antics only serve to discredit it.

Jones' primary objective should be to reopen the NIST investigation on the World Trade Center collapses, but with Jones refusing to consistently or even occasionally address the numerous key flaws in the report, and instead to focus on disinformation, unimportant information, or making superficial and incoherent rants, this is unlikely to happen in the near future. Jones is his own worst enemy and one wonders to what extent this is by design. Already years ago, ISGP published an article entitled The Media's Psywar Manual: 54 Tactics the Mainstream and Alternative Media Use to Undermine Conspiracy Thinking. Take a look at the identified tactics for the alternative media and think about how many you recognize in Jones. Probably more than half:

1. Study major controversial events like conspiracy researchers would do, but look for points to manipulate and exploit so skeptics can debunk them and false debates can be created.
2. Ignore new revelations and insights into a conspiracy as much as possible once false debates have been generated.
3. Invent a conspiracy theory about every new news report.
4. Only make use of publicly released documents. Don't do any unique investigative work.
5. Limit the amount of new information made available to an absolute minimum.
6. Protect your allies and bosses in government and the private sector.
7. Keep it in the (dysfunctional) family, from fellow conspiracy theorists to skeptics-for-hire.
8. Only allow questionable "insiders" to do the whistleblowing.
9. Link conspiracy to anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial.
10. Link conspiracy to ridiculous cliches as the Illuminati, reptilians, the Anunnaki, and the NWO.
11. Protect sitting administrations with the claim that a "rogue cell" or "shadow government" perpetrated a major conspiracy.
12. Behave like a mentally deranged or highly obnoxious individual.
13. Lump everything together: UFOs, the new age, geopolitics and conspiracy.
14. Take witness testimony and physical evidence out of context.
15. Come up with theories that cannot be proved nor disproved.
16. Accuse someone of not being "open-minded" if they refuse to take your made-up theory serious.
17. When a claim of yours gets effectively refuted, do not acknowledge this fact and instantly switch to other arguments and questions, preferably ones your debating partner hasn't gotten a chance to prepare for.
18. Draw somewhat proper conclusions, but based on easy-to-discredit arguments.
19. Have a prominent conspiracy advocate uphold the official story (mainly think respected leftists of the "liberal CIA" network).

...

The good news is that ultimately I think having someone around like Alex Jones is great for us and detrimental to the West's economic and national security elites. ^{[emphasis added]} Why? Because there's a core of truth there that keeps inspiring and intriguing people, more so than with Coast to Coast AM, which clearly aspires to being "100% B.S." But even in case of Coast to Coast AM and even with the implementation of a North Korea-style communist dictatorship with modern NSA capabilities, I think it is inevitable that in the long run people's consciousness will grow and they will see through all the manipulation. It might take 10 years, it might take 10,000 years, but we will get there. Our consciousness will evolve along with the physical evolutionary process that has been going on for hundreds of millions of years. Jones is just another teacher along the way.

tl;dr Don't believe everything you've heard so far, ^motherfucker

Additional Links on disinfo:

"How to Fake an Alien Invasion", Corbett Report
(Bonus—Are UFOs an Intelligence Psyop? - James Corbett's /r/conspiracy AMA)

"Cult of National Security Trolls: Art Bell and Coast to Coast AM", Joel v.d. Reijden, ISGP-Studies.com

"The No-Planers of 9/11 "Truth"; How Pentagon, Flight 93 And WTC Pod Theories Paralyzed a Research Community That Never Existed", Joel v.d. Reijden, ISGP-Studies.com

"20 psywar tactics used by the alternative media", Joel v.d. Reijden, ISGP-Studies.com

Ya controlled opposition would totally nail 9/11 on the head months before it happened because everyone knows the best tactic is to have a public figure give out your plans that potentially anyone could pick up on /s And yeah the two party system during Bush/Clinton era was two sides of the same coin and now that Trump is throwing a wrench in BOTH parties no wonder he’s backed that side.

Same thing happened with Glen Beck. I remember him early on and he was well reasoned with a libertarian, constitutional edge to him. Then one day I saw him on fox and it didn't even seem like the same person I remembered. Probably one of the oddest things I remember about MSM news.

Love this theory!

Are people too young to remember Alex Jones speaking out against the Bush administration? So much so, that he got arrested for it?

I don't know if he's a plant or not, but I do think people are misguided or uninformed when they claim he's a republican shill.

Alex Jones is the largest disinfo agent on the planet - mixing credible conspiracies with nonsense, and conflating the conspiracy movement with white supremacists and antisemitism .

And Trump has filled his administration with Bilderbergs, Bohemians and Masons.

If you want to look up some real heroes, look up John Decamp, Ted Gunderson, Gary Caradori, William Guy Carr to name a few.

Alex jones is playing a unique role for his audience. His area is black propaganda.

First, I would like to direct you to this comment because its highly relevant to someone like Alex jones or any media organization.

Alex Jones is running a complex long term operation. He starts by saying the truth and attracts an audience. He keeps building this audience and his audience starts becoming loyal to him since hes saying the truth all the time. At a critical time in history(now probably), he starts his disinfo campaign to steer his audience in the wrong direction.

Truther Alex Jones(2006) vs Gatekeeper Alex Jones(current)

To be realistically fair. AJ warned about what was going on in Hollywood before this subreddit. Roger Stone, Ron Paul support him so if AJ is a sell out so is everyone.

So it sounds we would be better alone than together.

He's not a Republican, he states he's a Libertarian

He's not a plant. He's just an idiot. The more outrageous he behaves, the more money he makes. It's pretty simple. His audience is isolated, angry, gullible people. The more he screams and shouts, the more stupid supplements and stuff he can sell.

The only problem with all this is most people can't show any proof, youtube video audio or whatever proving aj has said anything that was wrong.

i never liked Alex jones, even when he is right about something, he presents it in such an off-putting manner. he is sure to alienate more than he awakens.

gatekeeping shill cunt

Yeah, that's what a lot of people think. The 2 party system is a sham. We see this now. Republicans control everything yet they can't pass any legislation.

Trump is an outsider and they are fighting him, hard. His own party is ensuring he can't get legislation passed. Why do you think Trump is on their side when they are so against him?

It's so fucking obvious he's a grifter. He makes money selling fake vitamins and "male supplements". He never cared about politics at all, he's a scam artist.

His target audience used to be normal 'libertarian' conspiracy theorists. Now it's shifted to welcome alt-right conspiracy theorists as well, who are even more gullible.

He's not controlled opposition. It's easily explained by him being a scam artist who managed to scam the trumpist Alt-right because they've gotten so goddamn stupid.

Just because he supports Trump doesn’t make him a shill..

A republican? He constantly opposed Bush and was very out spoken about that. He does seem to pump up Trump quite a bit, I’ll give you that. But calling Jones a Republican is wrong.

He's not a republican. This is hilarious. Yeah he's whacky....so? There is zero evidence of anything you're saying. Zero. You're just assuming it because of confirmation bias.

I listen to Alex regularly, but Jesus Christ, Friday he came out saying he had his genitals groped by 3 different Hollywood executives. He just can't help telling blatant lies sometimes.

I listen to Alex regularly

LOL. Riiiight!

The fact that this guy hasn't been killed sort of gives this away.

Coming up next Alex sits down for an intimate interview with Bibi Netanyahu.

No shit. He got his start in radio through his uncle in the CIA. It's heartbreaking to watch all The Donald cultists rally around him. Imagine how many distributed Mae Brussells and Hank Albarellis we could Voltron up, if only the signal:noise ratio in here was better. The idiots turning free speech from a refined social practice into a sacred cow to love/root for shoulder a lot of the blame here, IMO. This isn't conjecture or mush, this is how the global post-WWII franchise we all know and love, whatever you want to call it, did coups in South America. And it's something which the COCOM "VOICE" series programs (Earnest Voice most famously, but all COCOMs have one) are only just ramping up to take advantage of. Meanwhile, let's keep waiting for the next iteration of ripe MK-fodder to bow down to the New powers of Kek once generating photorealistc human avatars and voices becomes a $1k software package and makes its way to the trackers.

Despite that you still have to give him credit for waking people up.

Blah blah blah, they replaced his ass, that's a clone, old Alex was missing the tip of his finger (long time listener) my friend noticed one day that he had all his digits, a couple years later, one day on his show he said the tip of his finger "grew back " from the supplements on his show right around then I stopped listening old Alex Jones was the shit, old Eminem was the shit, that's not them :(

The fact that I'm being down voted shows the lack of logical rational thinkers on here, honestly haha

Yea that could also be a probability as well. He's used to push more divide and conquer bullshit, that's how I see it at least.

Then why exactly are the globalists out to get him? The same globalists that own MSM, haven't exactly been treating him like one of their own. So far, he's actually been undoing the past 8 years by killing off thousands of regulations. Wouldn't that be counter-productive?

Not quite. There's usually a little more empathy attached, some that's required to connect with other people and care about other people.

I would expect confidence from someone who is alpha, not over the top arrogance. He's wrong about so much, misses basic details but man, does he have a mouth on him anyway.

He didn't run out of love for anything except for money and power. Why do you think he got to where he is? Saying the pledge of allegiance? The only thing he likes about America is the system itself that allows him such levels of lust for power and money, while even being celebrated for it. Pretty sad, in my opinion. And we wonder why we have issues in our country. They're feeding us a shit sandwich and calling it a filet mignon while they're eating filet mignon their selves. These people got to where they are on the backs of other people and he can't even muster up a tiny bit of empathy? Not a good way to do anything, especially when running a nation full of people.

Not a cult

why was anyone even worried. we hadn't transitioned to full-scale digital everything yet...

and it would've turned the old programs and applications back to 1900. big whoop. we wouldn't have gone back to horse and buggy suddenly, the dates would be wrong.

I'm sure businesses could figure it out by paying accountants or something at worst, and developing/fixing software, which they did early

Jesus Christ man really?

As someone who was a Paul supporter, he had a fraction of the votes, supporters and even less of the media savy that Trump has.

The difference between the Dems and the Repubs is the Dems actually cheated Clinton to the win. The Repubs did every dirty trick in the book, but within the rules, to crush Trump. At the end of the day, even though they all hated him and they even continued to work against him, they listened to their voters.

should of

Did you mean should've?

I am a bot account.

And he's been spouting complete bullshit ever since. I think it's hilarious and fitting that only right wingers believe his paranoid delusions. Speaks volumes about their intelligence and bullshit detectors.

So he’s not even allowed to talk about aliens yet you are? Aliens are not a normal feature of his show. He almost never mentions it except when talking about how the MSM lie and says he talks about reptilians and aliens.

No they didn’t. You are flat out lying. The media talking about shit isn’t the same as the candidates bringing it up during interviews and debates. Not once did a candidate mention sexual assault allegations against Trump during one of the debates.

If we can't persuade these 'idiots' to open their minds then we'll be stuck in the same system, forever.