Just a question...

8  2017-10-16 by wafflehousewhore

Are all the governments of the world corrupt like the U.S.? Do all governments carry out false flags and kill innocent people and silence journalists and truth seekers?

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Yeah pretty much, AFAIK. Here, have a Russian false flag:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings

Don't forget PLF 101.

Oh I forgot about that. Even crazier than my link, tbh.

I'm pretty sure I've read on this before. It certainly ties a lot of pieces together ((Led to the Chechen War, boosted Putin's ratings, put him in Presidency, etc)). Definitely quite interesting.

I'm sure to some degree. The foundational nature of government is conspiracy, if ya think about it. And like all other conspiracies, there will be efforts to conceal and distract. This is what makes the idea of the crazy tin foil hat conspiracy theorist false. Not saying we don't have crazies, but to pretend like the world isn't built on conspiracies is by far the crazier position.

That's a good point. It just aggravates the everloving shite out of me. I wish I could live somewhere without all this crazy government bullshit and nonsense

I can definitely recommend you don't bother with the UK then.

Yeah, from what I gather, they are on par with the U.S.

We've been at it for 500 years longer too so it's far more subtle and pernicious.

You've got a point. I still find myself questioning "Were the London attacks REALLY a false flag, or just some over hyped violent maniacs?" I guess that's just the normies getting into my head. Hell, everytime I try to talk conspiracy with someone who appears to have a solid grasp of understanding facts and whatnot, I'm pretty much immediately silenced. "Dude, you're just paranoid" "You can't accept the fact that there are evil people who want to destroy our freedom" "The government wouldn't kill their own people, who would vote for them? If it came out they did this, they wouldn't get any votes at all! Why risk it?" "The investigation is still ongoing, of course not everything makes sense" It's always some kind of generic preloaded bullshit like that. They have made it to where nobody wants to sit down and look at undeniable facts. They've played everything so perfect, no matter how sloppy the execution was.

Don't let it get to you. There is a vast array of resources lined up against people like us. Always we have the question of whether any of what we do here means or does anything. And the answer to that is if there wasn't, no one would bother to interfere with us. But there are signs they spend a great deal of time disrupting communities like ours. So, on some level, our pursuit of truth means a great deal to TPTB. And that makes me happy.

That actually makes me feel quite a bit better about the whole thing. I appreciate that

"Were the London attacks REALLY a false flag, or just some over hyped violent maniacs?"

It's usually both, the maniacs are given the means and material support to carry out atrocities by our own 'Intelligence' communities in order to support their claims that the removal of our rights and privacy is in our own best interest rather than their own. If any of these sponsored terrorists actually had a 20% chance of attacking a target that would actually further their aims, like a Govt. institution directly involved in the destruction of their homelands and cultures, they'd probably never even be heard about. Straight to Guantanamo with them.

While the public can be hoodwinked into believing that the actions of our respective deep state actors is for our benefit the charade will continue and the public will continue to pay the price of their treachery. It's only treason if they attack the leaders, the useful idiots who are blindly defending their acts are fair game and 'collateral damage' in their power plays.

TL;DR? Shit's fucked.

Good TL;DR. Much summary. But yes, very true.

crazy tin foil hat conspiracy theorist

Not to sound like a tinfoil hatter, but why is "tinfoil" used as the ultimate insult to conspiracy theorists? I haven't researched where the term came from (CIA?) but it would be interesting to find out what prompted it's mainstream use.

Pretty sure it has something to do with tinfoil preventing mind control waves. Which isn't nearly as crazy as it sounds if you're someone being gangstalked by the CIA, etc.

It comes from an old conspiracy regarding radio wave mind control. And there are currently people that believe they are targeted individuals of EM radiation attacks of various kinds, there are subreddits that focus on this type of thing, and countermeasures which include something we could think of as an actual tin foil hat. And tbh, it was generally thought they were actually kinda bonkers until the recent attacks in Cuba.

Just goes to show, real life is stranger than fiction.

I'd say all the world's major players do this but doesn't it just ram the knife in a bit deeper when its the nation calling itself "land of the free"?

Yeah, absolutely. Sometimes I wish I could run away to the jungle and be a bush baby or something, but I'm too attached to my family, who heavily depend on me, and due to multiple disabilities, wouldn't survive without me. Guess I'll just keep watching my back for the men in black.

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That's interesting, may I ask where you ran away to?

as for germany, totally YES. best example the immigration and attacks by immigrants.

Really?? I haven't heard anything about that ((I feel so excluded living in America sometimes)) Care to point me in the right direction to read about this?

most immigrant sexual attacks are not paid medial attention to. if they are there is always stuff like "germans do so to", and at least "its an isolated case" even if there are about 2-xx attacks per day. if you point this stuff out you get called nazi immediately as you attack poor refugees. if you tell them "i dont talk about refugees, i talk about criminal migrants and only them." you still get called out and they ignore what u just said. they tell us since the beginning that these are all qualified employees and doctors whatsoever and that they are what germany needed so desperately. then they tell us after 100 of such glorifying news "oh out of a sudden they dont seem to be, they dont even went to school nor do they want to work" next day it starts over.

propaganda ala "germans dont think about migrant crisis" and ~10 minutes after "most germans are afraid of migrant crisis" from SAME outlet.

and now it comes: the munich shopping mall shooter. EVERYWHERE communicated as David S. whilst his real name is Ali Davoud Sonboli. one might ask why is that? i can answer you, ~2 weeks ago they started bring on radio and news outlets "researchers are now sure, it was a 100% rightwing shooting, theres absolutely no doubt david s. is a full blown nazi" theres your answer. its easier to just eat it if a david s. is a nazi than a ali davoud sonboli. they forget to tell that he got harassed for years by whatever ppl like from albania, turkish ppl whatever. thats why he had cruel on them. beside the fact that this whole case screams for mossad(richard gutjahr was right in place same as his daughter(just like in FR-Nice Truck plot what a coincedence with his mossad wife!)

Damn, I feel so out of the loop! I didn't know anything about any Munich shopping mall shooter?!

I'll have to look at it after work

Operation Gladio covered dozens of countries:

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio

Wow, I have never even heard about this before. This is quite interesting

If you're interested there's a lot of good docs about it on YT, like NATOs Secret Armies.

Here's a scary book about the subject written by Professor Daniele Ganser

http://www.whale.to/b/ganser.pdf

Downloaded. Will read after work tonight

I think the corruption is directly proportional to the amount of power each government has. The more power, the more ability and motive (to keep the power you have amassed) to carry out false flags or just kill people.

I think that really makes a lot of sense, but when I try to tell people this, no one believes me. It usually goes something like "America is amongst the most powerful, are you saying we are among the most corrupt?" "Well, yeah, duh" "Oh, so you're a traitor?" No, you fucking moron, I'm just not allowing myself to be duped.

Depends on your idea of the construct of a government.

Now, if you're talking the tribal people that chuck spears at helicopters in Brazil, probably not. They're not really governed by the brazilians in their own mind.

That said, if you have a seat at the UN, yeah.