Not organically. If/when they decide to take him down, they'll be able to fabricate whatever evidence they want, or pull some from his seedy business dealings in the past.
I think tptb are more interested in the strife and division, than they are in resolving this pathetically artificial conflict.
It's far too early to say. With the publicly available information, it seems like the president is in the clear, but it sure looks like Flynn and Manafort sold our country out. Will be interesting to see what Mueller digs up.
It's hard to imagine that those guys were able to do that without Kushner, Junior, or even Trump himself not knowing about it. Trump literally tweeted about Hillary deleting her emails hours after the Veselnitskaya.
For those who may have forgotten, this Russian narrative began in September 2015 when the DNC/Anderson Cooper tried to link Bernie to Russia when he was becoming a threat to Hillary. Then they tried to link Wikileaks to Russia. Then Jill Stein. Then Donald. Then Julian Assange. Then the entire election results. Then they stopped referring to the email fiasco as "leaks" and began calling them "Russian hacks" This is not a pattern of reality - it's a pattern of desperation. I've been a Democrat all my life, but this Russia crap is nonsense.
The Congressional investigations are being controlled by Republicans so I don't really understand the argument that it's "the dems." I know that's Trump's favorite talking point, but it doesn't seem to square with the facts.
If you still think the R or D next to the representative's name makes a difference, you still have plenty of information to discover. The 2 party system makes it easy to divide and control political influence. Those truly in power care not what puppet sits in the oval office or in Congress, since their money all comes from the same place and they all vote the same for what really matters.
The only difference between the parties rests in identity politics. Those issues are completely manufactured and radicalized to either extreme.
Maybe on some things, but there's a reason nothing has gotten done during the Trump presidency - the two sides are almost completely united in their opposition to the other side. And if Hillary did a fraction of the shit Trump did, she would be on the verge of impeachment.
The "deep state" is a rebranding of the military industrial complex. It essentially means the same thing.
Persons at agencies and companies that don't depend (entirely) on party affiliations while in long term positions of power, and sometimes part of the revolving door of gov't/private-sector involvement.
According to their theory, the Democrats are really the ones in charge, completely forgetting the fact that Republicans are in charge of the executive and legislative branches and started the Russia investigation. The TDers also say that Democrats are the reason he can't pass legislation, which is ridiculous.
It is strange. The Republicans could give the Democrats the middle finger at any time and their voters would back it. But to their credit they do recognize the danger of a foreign nation trying to influence our election and haven't killed it.
I completely agree but I find it funny how all their desperate attempts may have actually uncovered some shit. The meeting with Veselnitskaya was not nothing. Manafort working for Russian oligarchs is not nothing. It's going to be hard to watch the MSM sip their victory kool aid if the investigations lead to something but if they find something worth prosecuting I want Trump and is group to get prosecuted. The idea that someone can work with the Russian gov to get elected in the US is scary.
The Russia conspiracy theory was crafted to excuse Obama's crimes. Obama was spying on his political opponents and that's where the Russia narrative stems from. Once Trump won it morphed into this excuse for impeachment.
The Russia conspiracy theory was crafted to excuse Obama's crimes. Obama was spying on his political opponents and that's where the Russia narrative stems from. Once Trump won it morphed into this excuse for impeachment.
Your messiah will hang from a rope for his crimes against America. Obama fucked up big time. He just knew Hillary was going to win. Now his time has come. Can't wait to see him strung up.
That's an acceptable opinion among some here apparently. Go to an anti-Trump and the worst you'll see is "send him to prison" comments - but casually talking about lynching a president here is instant upvotes.
Obama. Being impartial. Hahahahhahaha. The guy that invited BLM to the white house 50 times? The guy that said 7 out of 9 women on college campuses are raped? The guy, holy fuck man, you trolled me. Good one.
They are positioning for the mid-terms elections and the next presidential election. Expect the propaganda blitz to intensify in order to gauge its effectiveness in the midterms. If it is effective, meaning, republicans loose seats, than it will be intensified until the presidential. This is the issue that is hoped will prevent the second term. The actual investigation will only end the presidency indirectly, by constantly being cited by opposition in order to sway voters. The actual investigation can't fail to turn something up, simply due to the vague accusations. Collusion is not rigorously defined, and as such the impropriety is not clear. So if a Russian business contract in some way violated procedures, lets say by not accurately reporting income, then the investigation would have been a success.
Absolutely not. This conspiracy theory was crafted to protect Obama. Obama was spying on political opponents and got caught. The Russia conspiracy theory was crafted to cover for Obama's crimes. Then when Trump won it just morphed into an excuse for impeachment.
Also noone believes it. Libtards believe it but they don't matter since they believe anything the establishment tells them. The rest of the nation isn't buying it. The MSM pushed way too many fake news stories about Russia. With the vast majority of Americans not believing it they can't use this for impeachment, no matter what bullshit they come up with.
How do you feel about all the Russian Facebook ads?
If the vast majority of people don't believe it, why do 40%+ already think he should be impeached? Why do you suppose Bannon gives Trump a 30% chance of finishing his first term?
Yeah and Hillary has a 98% chance to win the election.
Russian FB ads. You're getting all this garbage from MSM. What is wrong with you? The news has lied to you thousands of times yet you still trust them. That's fanatical cult level shit man.
well played deep state. well played. you did the opposite of your intended effect? i thought the deep state wanted me all gungho about getting trump out of office, now that i don't care...they did their job?
Yes. Remember bill clinton was impeached for getting a blowjob. trump may or may not have colluded with russian, but even if he didnt im sure there is something else there, money laundering or fraud at least.
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1 Needmyvape 2017-10-16
No.
In more concerned with the Russians ability to influence Americans than Amy involvement trump may have had.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
I don't know if there is a way to make Americans less gullible and stupid.
1 Needmyvape 2017-10-16
People in general are stupid.
The internet was supposed to have made the truth more readily available, unfortunately it is only made the truth harder. to find for many people.
1 heresmything 2017-10-16
Yes, because Colbert/CNN/MSNBC told me it would.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
Where did they get it from?
1 Awesomo3082 2017-10-16
Not organically. If/when they decide to take him down, they'll be able to fabricate whatever evidence they want, or pull some from his seedy business dealings in the past.
I think tptb are more interested in the strife and division, than they are in resolving this pathetically artificial conflict.
1 joeyisdamanya 2017-10-16
It's far too early to say. With the publicly available information, it seems like the president is in the clear, but it sure looks like Flynn and Manafort sold our country out. Will be interesting to see what Mueller digs up.
1 cwhaaaales 2017-10-16
It's hard to imagine that those guys were able to do that without Kushner, Junior, or even Trump himself not knowing about it. Trump literally tweeted about Hillary deleting her emails hours after the Veselnitskaya.
1 Cptn_Canada 2017-10-16
yeah thats a really good one.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
Those two were about as close as possible to Trump. Trump also refuses to criticize Flynn (even after firing him) which strikes me as odd.
1 frequencyfarm 2017-10-16
For those who may have forgotten, this Russian narrative began in September 2015 when the DNC/Anderson Cooper tried to link Bernie to Russia when he was becoming a threat to Hillary. Then they tried to link Wikileaks to Russia. Then Jill Stein. Then Donald. Then Julian Assange. Then the entire election results. Then they stopped referring to the email fiasco as "leaks" and began calling them "Russian hacks" This is not a pattern of reality - it's a pattern of desperation. I've been a Democrat all my life, but this Russia crap is nonsense.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
The Congressional investigations are being controlled by Republicans so I don't really understand the argument that it's "the dems." I know that's Trump's favorite talking point, but it doesn't seem to square with the facts.
1 sweaty_clitoris 2017-10-16
If you still think the R or D next to the representative's name makes a difference, you still have plenty of information to discover. The 2 party system makes it easy to divide and control political influence. Those truly in power care not what puppet sits in the oval office or in Congress, since their money all comes from the same place and they all vote the same for what really matters.
The only difference between the parties rests in identity politics. Those issues are completely manufactured and radicalized to either extreme.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
Maybe on some things, but there's a reason nothing has gotten done during the Trump presidency - the two sides are almost completely united in their opposition to the other side. And if Hillary did a fraction of the shit Trump did, she would be on the verge of impeachment.
1 OwlYourBaseBelong2Us 2017-10-16
It's not about Dem vs Rep. It's about deep state actors vs the American ideal.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
Deep state isn't a thing.
1 flizzy333 2017-10-16
The "deep state" is a rebranding of the military industrial complex. It essentially means the same thing.
Persons at agencies and companies that don't depend (entirely) on party affiliations while in long term positions of power, and sometimes part of the revolving door of gov't/private-sector involvement.
1 likes-to-use-italics 2017-10-16
According to their theory, the Democrats are really the ones in charge, completely forgetting the fact that Republicans are in charge of the executive and legislative branches and started the Russia investigation. The TDers also say that Democrats are the reason he can't pass legislation, which is ridiculous.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
It is strange. The Republicans could give the Democrats the middle finger at any time and their voters would back it. But to their credit they do recognize the danger of a foreign nation trying to influence our election and haven't killed it.
1 ShillboFlabbins 2017-10-16
That sounds like something the Russians would say...
1 cwhaaaales 2017-10-16
I completely agree but I find it funny how all their desperate attempts may have actually uncovered some shit. The meeting with Veselnitskaya was not nothing. Manafort working for Russian oligarchs is not nothing. It's going to be hard to watch the MSM sip their victory kool aid if the investigations lead to something but if they find something worth prosecuting I want Trump and is group to get prosecuted. The idea that someone can work with the Russian gov to get elected in the US is scary.
1 dncisapsyop 2017-10-16
The Russia conspiracy theory was crafted to excuse Obama's crimes. Obama was spying on his political opponents and that's where the Russia narrative stems from. Once Trump won it morphed into this excuse for impeachment.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
That has been debunked.
1 dncisapsyop 2017-10-16
Your messiah will hang from a rope for his crimes against America. Obama fucked up big time. He just knew Hillary was going to win. Now his time has come. Can't wait to see him strung up.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
Will the rope by tied to a tree branch?
1 dncisapsyop 2017-10-16
That'd be the most cost effective way but he is an ex president so they'd probably build some kind of platform. Either way works as long as he pays.
1 PorschephileGT3 2017-10-16
I.E.: "If you criticize Obama's presidency you are an actual KKK Nazi!!"
Grow the fuck up.
1 likes-to-use-italics 2017-10-16
Psyop is the one who said hang him from a tree for his imaginary crimes.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
That's an acceptable opinion among some here apparently. Go to an anti-Trump and the worst you'll see is "send him to prison" comments - but casually talking about lynching a president here is instant upvotes.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
Pathetic. I see you chose not to comment on the lynch the black man comment. Hmm.
1 PorschephileGT3 2017-10-16
You and I both know that's not what he meant by 'strung up'.
How's Tumblr these days?
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
I stopped going there because I think the deep state is watching. I also tossed out my microwave. Can't be too careful these days, you know?
1 PorschephileGT3 2017-10-16
Joke's on you buddy, I bought 650 microwaves and covered my house in the metal grates from their doors. Stay woke.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
I'd believe it.
1 likes-to-use-italics 2017-10-16
He could have guaranteed Hillary a win if he had revealed what he knew about the Russians, but he was trying to be impartial.
1 dncisapsyop 2017-10-16
Obama. Being impartial. Hahahahhahaha. The guy that invited BLM to the white house 50 times? The guy that said 7 out of 9 women on college campuses are raped? The guy, holy fuck man, you trolled me. Good one.
1 tinylilzikababyhead 2017-10-16
The only thing that would bring down Trump is if he doesn't fall to his knees for the Zionists fast enough.
1 mjschreff 2017-10-16
not a chance. the dnc colluded with russia...
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
This has been debunked.
1 williamsates 2017-10-16
They are positioning for the mid-terms elections and the next presidential election. Expect the propaganda blitz to intensify in order to gauge its effectiveness in the midterms. If it is effective, meaning, republicans loose seats, than it will be intensified until the presidential. This is the issue that is hoped will prevent the second term. The actual investigation will only end the presidency indirectly, by constantly being cited by opposition in order to sway voters. The actual investigation can't fail to turn something up, simply due to the vague accusations. Collusion is not rigorously defined, and as such the impropriety is not clear. So if a Russian business contract in some way violated procedures, lets say by not accurately reporting income, then the investigation would have been a success.
1 dncisapsyop 2017-10-16
Absolutely not. This conspiracy theory was crafted to protect Obama. Obama was spying on political opponents and got caught. The Russia conspiracy theory was crafted to cover for Obama's crimes. Then when Trump won it just morphed into an excuse for impeachment.
Also noone believes it. Libtards believe it but they don't matter since they believe anything the establishment tells them. The rest of the nation isn't buying it. The MSM pushed way too many fake news stories about Russia. With the vast majority of Americans not believing it they can't use this for impeachment, no matter what bullshit they come up with.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
How do you feel about all the Russian Facebook ads?
If the vast majority of people don't believe it, why do 40%+ already think he should be impeached? Why do you suppose Bannon gives Trump a 30% chance of finishing his first term?
1 dncisapsyop 2017-10-16
Yeah and Hillary has a 98% chance to win the election.
Russian FB ads. You're getting all this garbage from MSM. What is wrong with you? The news has lied to you thousands of times yet you still trust them. That's fanatical cult level shit man.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
No, I'm getting it from the people who have looked at it.
1 Cptn_Canada 2017-10-16
i think your tin foil hat is on a bit too tight bud.
1 ABetterRide 2017-10-16
no.
1 Redman2009 2017-10-16
I don’t even care anymore really. Do it or don’t. Fuckin football and basketball started so I’m distracted for the next bit.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
Just what the deep state wants.
1 Redman2009 2017-10-16
well played deep state. well played. you did the opposite of your intended effect? i thought the deep state wanted me all gungho about getting trump out of office, now that i don't care...they did their job?
seems legit.
1 Cptn_Canada 2017-10-16
Yes. Remember bill clinton was impeached for getting a blowjob. trump may or may not have colluded with russian, but even if he didnt im sure there is something else there, money laundering or fraud at least.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-16
I stopped going there because I think the deep state is watching. I also tossed out my microwave. Can't be too careful these days, you know?