OP, he did, it's hard to lead with Irrefutable proof and then have holes poked in it. It's still worth looking at imo.

Rule 6... go read the mod logs. You don't need to make a topic about it... just read the mod logs.

IRREFUTABLE PROOF That the Vegas Shooting Guard Jesus Campos Narrative is a COMPLETE SHAM!

On this page you'll find the "award ceremony" for Jesus Campos given to him for heroism which supposedly happened on October 10th. http://www.spfpa.org/news/spfpa-strong-honoring-our-heros.html http://archive.is/BxFDY Look at this image specifically: http://spfpa.org/sites/default/files/styles/nivo_main/public/Web%20GROUP%20DINNER.jpg?itok=3WPp4-Ia That photo was taken at Jean Georges Steakhouse at the Aria. Notice the texture on the walls. The LCD Panel in the back. The chandelier. This photo was taken in the same room in 2013. http://www.littlevegaswedding.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Strip-Wedding-Portraits-Taylored-Photo-Memories012.jpg http://www.littlevegaswedding.com/2013/10/chic-chefs-table-wedding-reception-at-jean-georges-steakhouse-las-vegas/#.WeVwD2hSyUk Why is this a problem? Because this steakhouse was completely and totally remodeled in July of this year. https://vegas.eater.com/2017/7/14/15969768/jean-george-steakhouse-restaurant-remodel-aria-eater-inside I've looked at hundreds of pictures of this place. There are no traces of the old decor whatsoever and the only area that can possibly be that old room looks absolutely nothing like what it used to. https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ao5Mk-SxB08xlNP4L44vfUshW-U=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8850001/Jean_Georges_Steakhouse_10.jpg So tell me, how did Jesus Campos' union have an award ceremony on October 10th in a room that no longer existed as of July this year? Edit: For those of you linking images from the virtual tour on the Aria website. That tour is outdated. The images in the above article about the remodel clearly illustrate this. Look at the outside of the restaurant vs. in the virtual tour.

The private rooms still use the old decor. I've been there.

^shill ? maybe. lets get the main post visibility until we get actual proof the private rooms have old decor. i find it unlikely.

Sigh, lol. It doesn't matter to me at all, thought it would be helpful.

For some of these people, you could be live streaming inside of the room and you still wouldn't be credible.

What is a "shill"?

Someone who is on the government payroll and sent here to disagree, spread bad info, down votes etc. As if any government gives a shit about reddit conspiracies enough to down vote them when they could easily do away with the whole sub lol

Removed. Rule 10

Any proof you were in the private rooms*?

Dude I'm not posting private pictures of my family, I literally don't care if you believe me.

Just put a giant black block over faces, we only care about the room details.

a) i don't care b) no c) i don't know if some maniac on 4chan is gonna end up doing some shit like hacking some reservation list and finding out when people were there/identification d) i'm not going to that effort to hopefully wipe all metadata, put black bars on my kids faces, and post their pics online to forum of onspiracy theorists at 7am while they get ready for school e) did i mention no?

Fair enough.

That’s perfectly fine, I understand. It does mean your word means nothing here though. Just like when everyone else makes posts and people say “where is the proof”

couldn't care less

Then why post to begin with? Again, don’t bring you opinions here and then tell people “couldn’t care less” like someone just pissed in your corn flakes, grow up and move along.

I posted because I've been there, I don't care if you believe it.

Are we done?

No. You haven't.

Thank you for your salient input, u/HRC_Eats_Babies

I think everyone else was done the second you refused to back up your statements. Your decision, 100%, but you're the one who appears to be continuing things.

Don't care, bye.

I feel bad for your kids. Jesus christ lol. You sir are truely an idiot

Why do you feel bad for my kids, u/PmMeYourFakeTitties? Your concerns are paramount to me at this moment.

Because they are being raised by somebody so ignorant, obviously

Ignorant of what, faketitties?

Lol you're doing it again.

Could you stop replying to me, please?

.... Why?

Blocked

i'd like you to say it one more time...

Say what baby

say my name.

Then leave

Could you stop replying to me please.

How many babies did you eat this morning?

You don't care then why are you commenting you fucking shill

You're a liar.

Doug, are you truly uncensored?

I sure am you fucking liar

You seem inordinately angry at me for going to that steakhouse.

Removed. Rule 10

f) new account spreading more disinfo

Looks that way. I don't even get why he suddenly gets so aggressive defensive. There was no cause to react that way with a reasonable request and suggestions how to do it all causing a huge derail of the thread itself.

ya gotta wipe all the metadata to make sure nobody finds out that the pic was taken in the restaurant LMAO

My white balance and aperture speed is my business and mine alone!

Don't blame you. Some people here would track you down and show up on ur doorstep.

Also, I feel I did nothing wrong by asking, and didn’t try insulting you or say anything mean/rude, so by your aggressive response I think it’s you who needs to get a grip, don’t act all salty after being asked a question.

Cool, later.

Liar

I've been there and it's totally different now. See how easy it is to say shit on the net? Proof or don't bother saying it.

Welp, I went there in August and the room we used looked like that room. I'm sorry if that bothers you.

That goes for just about every single idea posted here.

Redditor 15 days...

Liar

Nuh uh!

This is easy. I was there to and you are lying but I'm not gonna post any blocked out pictures showing JUST THE DECOR because...I'm a liar. But no believe my cool story.

Oh, I don't care if you don't believe it at all.

At least you have good intuition because I don't believe you.

Hey are we done, let's stop talking.

Yes and thanks for the cool story.

This attitude is why you can't have any pudding lol

Luckily I had the post still on my clipboard yeahh boy. EDIT: fixed links easier to read format

On this page you'll find the "award ceremony" for Jesus Campos given to him for heroism which supposedly happened on October 10th.

http://www.spfpa.org/news/spfpa-strong-honoring-our-heros.html http://archive.is/BxFDY

Look at this image specifically:

http://spfpa.org/sites/default/files/styles/nivo_main/public/Web%20GROUP%20DINNER.jpg?itok=3WPp4-Ia

That photo was taken at Jean Georges Steakhouse at the Aria. Notice the texture on the walls. The LCD Panel in the back. The chandelier.

This photo was taken in the same room in 2013.

http://www.littlevegaswedding.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Strip-Wedding-Portraits-Taylored-Photo-Memories012.jpg

http://www.littlevegaswedding.com/2013/10/chic-chefs-table-wedding-reception-at-jean-georges-steakhouse-las-vegas/#.WeVwD2hSyUk

Why is this a problem? Because this steakhouse was completely and totally remodeled in July of this year.

https://vegas.eater.com/2017/7/14/15969768/jean-george-steakhouse-restaurant-remodel-aria-eater-inside

I've looked at hundreds of pictures of this place. There are no traces of the old decor whatsoever and the only area that can possibly be that old room looks absolutely nothing like what it used to.

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ao5Mk-SxB08xlNP4L44vfUshW-U=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8850001/Jean_Georges_Steakhouse_10.jpg

So tell me, how did Jesus Campos' union have an award ceremony on October 10th in a room that no longer existed as of July this year?

For those of you linking images from the virtual tour on the Aria website. That tour is outdated. The images in the above article about the remodel clearly illustrate this. Look at the outside of the restaurant vs. in the virtual tour.

There are two different Private Dining rooms in the tour. One of them is with the new decor. The other (from the Campos photo) is the old decor. Read the remodel article I linked. "Gone are the outlines of cows that ringed the room, replaced by a lattice pattern on the walls instead. Black and gold metallic chairs and leather-wrapped table tops"

The second room in the tour CLEARLY has the old cow outlines.

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What? That's his suit jacket

I was inclined to agree with you but it looks like it goes down to his mid thigh which is way too long for your average suit jacket. It is also a slightly lighter shade than the black he's wearing, I think.

It's lighter cause it's a reflection. But if you want to think it's "photoshopped" you can believe that it don't matter to meeeeeee lol

It's his suit.

Tbh, a lot of people don't own a proper fitting suit or even one that is all one set.

Tbh, a lot of people don't own a proper fitting suit or even one that is all one set.

That's a very fair point, yes. By no means was I trying to say it was definitely photoshopped. Just that it does look peculiar

You were tricked in to looking at someone's bulge?

I've been bamboozled!

It looks completely photoshopped, that doesn't look like a jacket at all. His entire suit looks like they took a black paintbrush to it.

Ok if you say so then its "photoshopped" believe wut u want

Please explain the mentality of someone who comes to a sub called r\ conspiracy then is SHOCKED to discover that people here believe in conspiracies?

Do you go to r\crossstitch and argue with people who like to sew?

So you would rather have this place just agree with everyone? I do believe in some conspiracy but most of the things being said about this Vegas shot in are down right laughable. But hey if you think the old rich guy, the fat secuirty geek and the old Filipino lady were all secret FBI agents, more power to you LOL

Like come on somebody is arguing with me saying all the shots were coming from helicopters? I've practically lived in Vegas before. I've stayed on the strip for 6 months at a time and I know for a FACT there are no cameras in the hallways at Mandalay Bay. ACTUALLY if you do research you can easily find this on the Internet as well. But all these people, 95% of them never been to Vegas just shout out "its vegas of course there are cameras like everywhere". I'll tell you this, the casinos care about their money and that their employees aren't ripping them off. 98% of te cameras are on the casino floor Tge big casinos in vegas do not care about what's going on in the hallways of the hotel. This is FACT. Believe water you want though.

Lol this guy knows how to use the word fact. Good show.

So many idiots claiming "irrefutable evidence" unless you're standing over his body you ain't got shit.

Its annoying and makes most of us look like morons.

Gg

It is FACT there are no cameras in the hallways and lol at this guy calling himself a moron and using big words lol

I wasn't talking about cameras as you can see I said irrefutable evidence about his body so maybe learn to read before you act like a prick

Well, being that no one here was standing over his body I guess everyone should shut up then? Didn't have to be there the night it happened to be able to say there are no hallway cameras. I will say it again ...there are no hallway cameras.

Yes, this is 100% correct. Also seems people here are all in a fit over the helicopters in the area during the shooting. Anyone who has been there knows there are choppers all over the place. Or the ones who don't understand how he got the guns in. Or think the casino was in on it.

What if there was a sewing-related false flag massacre committed by the jews, though? There might be some lively debates about it in r/crossstitch

No, but the point of posting theories is to get feedback. Here it seems if someone doesn't agree or points out holes in an idea they must be shills.

You can't even speak English correctly.

Always the best reply when you lose an argument. Start calling names!!!

I didn't call you any names.

Jesus Christ. Stick to the fucking point.. fuckin cop-out statement. Argue your point and not the person

Excuse me? I'm not arguing anything. Why are you getting so angry?

Shit man... i gotta extend the apology arm here. I completely misread and misrepresented myself. Completely uncalled for on my end. All i was saying, however it was angrily, was the point isn't discredited by lack of knowledge of english. However, it doesnt seem that there was a point being argued. Thats my bad man. Sorry

Why would he have a suite coat on and be holding a suite jacket? It must be chilly in the middle of the desert.

Looks like a cumberbun folded in half. You can see the rounded edges at the bottom and the tie strings hanging down

We do a company trip to Vegas every year and have dinner there in one of the private rooms. It's coming up next month so I'll have to take a look.

That is weird that there would be photos from a room that doesn't exist in the form it was presented on October 10th. I am baffled as to why they would fuck something up like that.

Guess we know why he skipped out now. Hard to live the lie.

Keep posting we need this up

OP deleted it.

Someone in vegas go check out that restaurant

Some dude above said he’s been there and “the private rooms still use the old decor”. But you can’t have any proof because 4chan will hack him and hurt his credit score or something.

Some dude above said he’s been there and “the private rooms still use the old decor”. But you can’t have any proof because 4chan will hack him and hurt his credit score or something.

/u/grivent certified bitch

This bitch dropped $95 on a five course tasting menu which was pretty goddamn great.

That I can believe you on. I was there my wedding night. $55 dollars an ounce for real kobe steak, my cheapness kicked in i ordered the sea bass for $45 dollars and $17 dollars for some fries.

It was my first kobe, too. Now I see what the fuss is about.

I was to cheap to pay for it. I did live in Okinawa and had it there it was 45$ for an 10 ounce steak which was pretty fucking good.

The private rooms still use the old decor.

i was looking for it... thought it was suspicious it wasnt on the front page anymore. is there anything to this?

Removed because of rule 6, but doesn't matter. OP's theory doesn't check out anyways.

Look at this pic from tripadvisor July, 2017.

Same table top as the one in the award meeting photo

and here's the table from the OTHER private dining room after the remodel. Same style

Now look at the table from before the remodel

and the lighting that somehow exists that you're ignoring? it's completely different

What lighting?

This post? It looks like it's there:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/76wkvz/irrefutable_proof_that_the_vegas_shooting_guard

This is what i was looking for like an hour Jesus... (not the Campos character)

Look at the tiles

Look at the tiles closely

He's dead. That's an embalmed corpse in those photos being propped up as a trophy picture, taunting the perpetrators.

This has been done before but this guy isn't dead.

you know i had rhe same thought. he just looks dead to me.

Thanks.

I posted on that thread last night but couldn't find it.

So someone should repost it.

this was debunked. move along

Whats he wearing behind his tie?!

how would this be debunked? the simple fact is SPFPA.org honored campos with a picture that could not have been taken later than July 2017

Thank you for your salient input, u/HRC_Eats_Babies

My white balance and aperture speed is my business and mine alone!

Shit man... i gotta extend the apology arm here. I completely misread and misrepresented myself. Completely uncalled for on my end. All i was saying, however it was angrily, was the point isn't discredited by lack of knowledge of english. However, it doesnt seem that there was a point being argued. Thats my bad man. Sorry

Wrong. If you go back to posts I do comment on, which isn’t many, I don’t shit on anyone’s proof or evidence on anything, because it’s SOMETHING. Good try though. Move on