Yeah I'd feel way better about this distraction if people were actually going to prison for these crimes. It's good in one way that it's being exposed, but if no one names names then nothing changes at all and the predators will just laugh and carry on doing it, and the victims will know that even when it came out in the media, even when it was all anyone talked about for weeks, still NOTHING was done. It's just sick.

Am watching 'An OPen Secret' again, which is about pedophilia in the industry, names several hollywood pedophiles including Bryan Singer. It's out there, but even now no one in the mainstream is demanding justice for these kids, and they know it's still happening and that there are children, right this minute, being abused, sold, passed around like prostitutes and they say nothing and do nothing!

The fact that no one else is being named is very suspicious and does make it seem like a distraction. People are so frightened, it's sad. Same with Las Vegas, all these witnesses who are too frightened to come forward and just say what they saw and provide their video of multiple shooters. What kind of country are we living in?

Even if they name names if there is no evidence they won't ever see a cell for what they did.

putting them all in prison won't 'fix' the problems,

they (e.g. Killary and Co) would be best first tried convicted of the crimes they've committed and then left free to face the music and resolve the shit they've caused

Statute of limitations is the reason for the most part.

What is the me too thing? I can't keep up.

People posted MeToo if they or someone they knew was sexually abused. I mostly saw it on FaceBook.

Ah. I'm not on the FB and don't tweet. Thanks.

NP

Lawyer here - what you've said is not exactly accurate.

Statute of limitations means it can no longer be prosecuted. It doesn't mean it cannot be discussed.

Truth is an absolute defense to defamation/slander.

Now more than ever, multiple corroborating victims would make it extremely difficult to attempt to institute a defamation suit.

Truth is an absolute defense to defamation/slander.

But what if the truth is only based on the allegation itself with no real evidence to prove it?

I think it's also important to note that defamation suits could be drawn out by the higher ups who have the money to pour into the cases, and bleed the victims dry

But what if the truth is only based on the allegation itself with no real evidence to prove it?

That's a good point, and why I think multiple people coming forward would be beneficial.

As to your second point, I 100% agree. On an individual level, these are usually in the favor of the more powerful person with more resources.

But right now is a rare opportunity to take advantage of a public that is not only outraged and paying attention, but that also has been fed an incredible amount of moralizing from the corporate and Hollywood class.

The public loves watching hypocrites get their comeuppance. I think now is a unique opportunity that I hope people seize.

But what if the truth is only based on the allegation itself with no real evidence to prove it?

then it can't be The Truth ... it's still just an allegation

Few days late but this is a really really good point.

thanks .... but it saddens me to think it's not OBVIOUS to the masses!

The Truth has a characteristic which clearly defines it;

e.g. The Truth is true, it cannot change.

ergo sum: "allegations" cannot be "True" as they can change

it may seem I'm splitting hairs BUT No, words are powerful and have clear meanings when used correctly and there is NO way an 'allegation' can be "the Truth" ... that's why it's an "allegation" and not 'true'

Looks like they are doing it to get more famous and are not really whistleblowing anything. It's actually more confusing to follow now that there are so many "coming outs" LoL!

Well played! And as always, when something really crazy happens in public, something really crazier happens in private.

You're opening yourself up for slander/libel if you accuse people of things you can't prove, like a sexual assault in years past.

Because women who speak up obviously NEVER any experience any backlash or cruelty or ‘punishment’. In a different world, sure it would be excellent if women felt safe letting authorities know when things like this happen.

In reality they’re told to keep it quiet, that they’ll cause trouble if they pursue anything, and even lose their jobs or opportunities for speaking up. Happens all the time — yes, even in 2017.

It’s not your choice how a woman chooses to handle these situations. Sexual assault and even run-of-the-mill sexual harassment can be extremely stressful, isolating, hurtful/damaging, and even shameful to those who experience it.

My concern is that all this mock-outrage is really based more on ‘I don’t believe them, since they’re not naming names,’ instead of any real worry about other victims. If you were that concerned you’d have empathy for the pain those who are speaking up have gone through over the years.

Because the "vague announcements" aren't necessarily about taking anyone down. In order to take someone down, you must first have the courage to stand up and do so - and it sure as hell isn't easy nor are the odds in the victims favor (watch what happens with Weinstein - and no woman will be a bit surprised).

Mostly, it's about speaking up to let people know it's happening. In massive numbers. And not just to "those girls" - but to women the masses wouldn't think "asked for it".

Lastly, it's providing strength in numbers.

Well, and with the #MeToo bullshit, its really starting to pull the public into this shit. That makes it an even bigger distraction since the people who DONT give a shit about the paid liars, do get caught up posts by people that they know.

MeToo. Get it?

I'm tired of people waiting YEARS before speaking out.

I mean it's a tough thing to deal with. And I've seen people speak out and get so much blow back and no justice.

Well, I was taught to always speak out about something like that. I don't care who does it and what is at stake. If you keep quiet (for the sake of your career), then I have no sympathy.

That is SO much easier said than done. Especially if speaking out will blow up your life. Odds are not in the victims favor on this issue.

I'm tired of people being sexually abused an harassed. It's a hard knock life.

I'm tired of women being so stupid that they go to a man's private hotel room for a business meeting.

Seriously? I'm not even in Hollywood, and I've been away on business and had plenty of business meetings in private hotel rooms.

Guess that means the women were stupid and deserved it? Come on now.

They're just, literally, attention seeking whores. Nothing will come of this, Weinstein will be the only hollywood mogul to take a fall. That whole industry needs to be scrubbed. If Terry fucking Crews isn't naming names, none of them will.

Weintstein and the Amazon dude look like the only ones that will go down. They're the sacrifices. The rest will continue on.

Amazon dude? I missed the memo on that?

Amazon video chief fired

The Amazon Studios head was forced out over sexual harassment this week.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-roy-price-amazon-resigns-20171017-story.html

Bezos is not going down... Would be nice, but I dont see it

The Amazon video chief was suspended for sexual assault or something along those lines

MeToo

The abused often evolve to be the abusers.

Probably afraid of disappearing or "committing suicide.

You dont know how hard it is to come out about shit like that.

Pretty sure rape and sexual assault are serious issues...

Some of the comments in this thread (and ones similar) are mind blowing. Then again, I'm not sure why victim blaming is still shocking to me. Jeezus christ people.

I feel like some of them are using this as free publicity...pretty sick.

I hate celebrities. Can they all just shut up?

hmmm now if you owned a few hundred actors and actresses and lots of magazines... do you think you could change the public perception to whatever you want?

hollywood is all smoke and mirrors.....

Hollywood is run by Eskimo's

The Eskimo's holy book says this: A maiden ages three years and one day may be acquired in marriage by coition-Sanhadrian 55b.

Is it any surprise that Pedophilia runs rampented when you have Eskimo's running the show?

gotta agree

talk about jumping on the publicity bandwagon

They are putting it out there to see if their "abusers" offer hush money. It's a money grab

Those bitches sucked cock for fame, wealth and film roles.

The only Coersion was in their own minds; "Should I or shouldnt I ?"

As they all enjoyed great careers for 20 years, the answer was clearly "I should". It was their choice.

Typical leftard hypocrites.

I am getting pissed the fuck off. Either drop the fucking bomb or just fly by

There actually is a secret list (i.e. Google spreadsheet) making it's rounds internally, with names and all. "SHITTY MEDIA MEN" https://www.buzzfeed.com/doree/what-to-do-with-shitty-media-men

So they are at it.

If they bite the hand that feeds, they they won't get fed.

It sure does make a lot of distraction with Vegas, Equifax/IRS, Awan scandal, Uranium scandal, and anything else I've missed. It also seems like it distracts from the pedophilia stuff because most of this is adult sexual assault or essentially prostitution for Hollywood positions. I feel it also belittles victims that haven't been heavily compensated.