I wouldn't doubt it. Considering AntiFa are no different than ISIS (both or controlled opposition) I can see this being plausible

antifa have existed for decades and they are nothing like isis. the reason you hear more about them now is because of the rise in right wing extremism. whilst they are throwing bottles of urine and smashing windows, right wing extremists are killing people by running them over with cars so the right wing media will be pushing the antifa narrative to make them sound like a legitimate threat. obviously its working.

Didn’t one guy run someone over and didn’t it turn out that lady died from a heart attack because she was so fat?

99% of the violence is from Antifa at their “peaceful” protests.

That one guy ran her over because the Violent AntiFa were attacking his car. It was self defense.

you really need to broaden your range of news sources.

the funny thing is, if antifa is part of this bigger plan as you think, they are just like you accept youre on the other side. youre as bad as eachother.

Did you conveniently forget about all the property damage AntiFa did during the inauguration riots, or the post election riots, or the G20 summit, or the Berkeley riots? Did you forget about Professor Bikelock or Moldylocks?

You can be an apologist for commies all day, but we can see right through your lies.

by subscribing to either side youre just a tool of tptb

Im not subscribed, im just merely stating facts.

The fact of the matter is, AntiFa are domestic terrorists.

yep they are and they exist because of right wing hate groups

So hate speech excuses terrorist activities?

Its okay to hit people with Bikelocks and cause property damage to municipalities because "muh feels". Good to know the left is still as insane as they will ever be.

hate speech leads to people being lynched, literally, so saying its about "muh feels" is intellectually dishonest. how many people did the kkk kill? how many people did stalin or hitler kill? that is what antifa fights against.

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No they dont.

When was the last time the KKK lynched someone?

When was the last time AntiFa caused violence and property damage?

Exactly.

In the meantime, antifa are were plotting gas attacks on Trump supporters because of "muh feels"

https://youtu.be/xIjbkYLI1nY

a quick google showed this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11987711/Ku-Klux-Klan-leader-sentenced-to-death-for-triple-murder-at-Jewish-centres.html

then we have the girl killed in charlottsbill by the neo nazi or whatever he was.

yet you think smashing shop windows and throwing dog shit at people is worse...

have you got a timestamp for the gas attack bit?

I think all instance of domestic terror is sad and ridiculous.

I'm not playing this dumb game of who is worse, they are both equally destructive forces in our country and have no place in modern society.

I won't coddle a baby regime of ignorant Hicks or college kids with no work experience. Yes, I'm using a joking hyperbole to indicate how little and pointless both of these groups are for our country.

i asked you if there was any truth to that link i gave you.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/kkk-prison-guards-found-guilty-murder-plot-black-inmate-article-1.3417371

Wow, didnt know the KKK was still relevant.

I can see why you hate them like I hate AntiFa, but the KKK doesn't go around causing riots, property damage, and attacking innocent people.

Professor Bikelock:

https://youtu.be/O1tUnHFbmcU

Or attacking old people in Boston

https://youtu.be/y09DdobzbHI

Or assulting a teenager in Berkely

https://youtu.be/CPqgnC1gW-A

And they fly Hammers and Sickles

https://youtu.be/hthHHX-oJh8

and attacking innocent people

well, they do and hate speech incites those actions. but it is different to antifas actions. i wont look at your links until after the football later, but ive never denied theyre violent, and ive said i dont agree with their actions.

to me, the videos ive seen of antifa attacking people, they look like scared kids who cant fight for shit and gang up on people.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/kkk-prison-guards-found-guilty-murder-plot-black-inmate-article-1.3417371

i didnt watch the video, just skipped through it trying to find the bit about a gas attack. all i found was talk of fighting nazis and chaining a train so it couldnt move.

so have you got a timestamp?

My bad, this is the wrong video. The link I presented previously was the video of AntiFas trying to cause chaos around the city.

This is the video where AntiFas and pedophile Luke Kuhn were talking about gas attacks

https://youtu.be/MHZSfhd1X_8

why mention the pedophile thing? ive got no idea who the guy is, but its like youre trying to link the two, have you forgotten about that milo guy on radio saying pedophilia is ok?

i gave you 5 or 6 examples of hate speech resulting in murder. all within the last few years, including this year. you have not responded to that at all.

i think youll have to agree that smashing windows and throwing urine is a lot less "terroristic" than murdering people.

have you got a timestamp? im not going to watch it all. the funny thing is in both these videos it comes across as nerds that are all talk. have they actually done anything serious? have they killed anyone like the right wing groups?

do you even disagree with their basic idea that racism is wrong? disagreeing with their actions, their methods is one thing. i think theyre idiotic kids in that regard, but i dont believe theres a place for racism in a free and civilized society. are you saying youre ok with right wing extremists murdering people because they are black?

by gas attack to you mean the butyric acid they were talking about releasing in to a building?

by "gas attack" do you mean the butyric acid they were talking about releasing in to a building?

well, just so you know... butyric acid is more commonly known as a "stink bomb". so no, they werent planning a ""gas attack", they were planning to let off a stink bomb.

that, along with your lack of awareness about people literally getting murdered because of hate speech, just reinforces my view that theres a lot of false right wing propaganda surrounding antifa and a lot of people are falling for it.

Even CNN agrees,

AntiFA are violent thugs

https://youtu.be/kUu46J_OHQ4

why do you keep repeating that when i agreed 10 comments ago?

LOL how many times will you keep repeating this? "You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't" Gee guess, I'll just sit here frozen in fear and frustration as I let the communist anti-rights agenda prevail.

you sound like youre plagiarizing some white nationlist blog

Everything he stated is well known and documented. Rebuke his comment, but don't resort to "you must read white nationalist blogs" just because you can't hold a conversation based on actual events that Antifa have been a part of.

theres no conversation to hold. theres nothing to refute and its obvious he subscribes to right wing extremist views.

extremist views that he will blindly parrot out.

t. unironic Antifabot

Ah, gotcha. He presented evidence as to why Antifa is a violent group -- you can't refute that evidence so you call him a right wing extremist instead. Thanks for your contributions to this sub, so much insight!

You can be an apologist for commies all day, but we can see right through your lies.

commies? lies? thats nonsense spewed out as a reply without any thought to what hes actually saying. just the fact he used the word "commies" is enough to put him in a pigeon hole.

think about it, youre defending a guy who thinks antifa are the same as isis and that being anti fascist makes someone a communist. if he didnt get those stupid ideas from a white nationalist blog then where did he get them from?

If a faction from the right wing was going around and burning cop cars, rioting on school campuses, assaulting hundreds of people -- what would you refer to them as?

Commie may be a bit much, but I think that's his point -- he's trying to get you to realize that the left has created a very extreme group and is using it to smash any dissenting opinion. It's not communism, but it sure has the beginnings of the movement down to a T.

antifa existed before this left/right divide did and their roots are in fighting communist dictators

No one is arguing how long they have been around or what their "roots" are. We are looking at the actions of a group today, based on current events, and categorizing them. Why is that so hard to understand? You seem very blinded by the left/right divide that you continuously bring up to somehow downplay Antifa's actions.

downplay Antifa's actions

someone above literally dismissed the girl that was killed by being run over as dying because she was just fat

There is a trend with Antifa's actions vs. the "extreme right" as you call them. The death of that girl in Charlottesville is terrible and there's no defending the actions of that day. Antifa has hundreds of documented assaults on anyone that does not agree with their views. You are using one instance of violence on the right to downplay the obvious trend of using violence to silence opposition that Antifa in the left is moving towards.

ive given 5 or 6 examples of right wing/hate speech leading to the murder of 8? people in the last couple of years. i would rather have a bottle of urine thrown at me than me murdered.

its dishonest to simplify antifas stance as using violence against anyone who disagrees with them. racism, prejudice, hate speech leads to very real, very serious, consequences for people, that is what they claim to be using violence against.

They use "racism, prejudice, hate speech" as a guise to assault anyone with a dissenting view, you know that. And they do it while acting like children and being unable to form a coherent argument.

theyre a bunch of idiots for the way they act, the actions they make, but the vast majority of people on the planet agree with their basic principal... that racism and prejudice is wrong.

their roots are in fighting communist dictators

LOL

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/08/16/who-are-the-antifa/

Sometimes, if you're not careful, you become what you are fighting. Antifa tactics are just like the browncoats of ww2 era. Silence opposing opinions, lash out and attack other groups, create large mobs who all wear a similar color, advocate for a new leadership while simultaneaously marching with a hammer and cicle but maintaining innocence that "we're totally against fascism". LMFAO

Antifa is not a group, baby.

Yeah it is, silly goose

Yea, its like, a movement, man.

A bowel movement maybe.

No, its pretty clear that Antifa isn't an organic movement. They are simply another tool being used by certain powerful individuals. I'm sure they believe in their cause, but that doesn't change the fact that they are being used.

Alt-right emergence is the response to the fascist antifa group.

huh? antifa is a contraction of ANTI fascist?

It's very ironic,yes. They silence through violence. Opposing views are to be crushed. By definition they are, themselves, fascists. Interestingly, the new definition of fascism calls it a right-wing ideology. This is revisionism in its finest.

"Nazi is an acronym for National SOCIALIST German Worker's Party. (In German) Obviously a self-declared socialist worker's party is very clearly left-wing."

its not "opposing views" though, is it. its hate speech, racism, prejudice. all things that encourage and incite people to harm certain groups of people

If you choose to perceive it as such, then godspeed to you. We clearly have opposing worldviews regarding reality. I strongly oppose violence towards "mean words", and the PC/snowflake culture will kill freedom in this country.

how many people are assaulted yearly because they are black or jewish or gay? people get murdered because of it so dismissing it as "mean words" isnt reality, it actually suggests you live in a bubble and are pretty naive about the issue

What ever helps you sleep at night, whippersnapper. I've been on this Earth long enough to distinguish delusions/propaganda from reality. I'm here to tell you, Antifa is closer to modern-day fascism than a lot of the kids participating in it realize. Most of these kids have no original thoughts.

I won't validate your "assault shpeal" as it's laughable. Global? In America? Modern day? Pre-civil rights days? Suggesting that minorities are in danger due to their skin tone in the current age is just silly.

could you come with anything more cliched and cringe worthy in an attempt to sound mature and worldly?

the one thing youve got right is that they are kids

Suggesting that minorities are in danger due to their skin tone in the current age is just silly

a quick google proves you wrong...

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-richard-preston-20171004-story.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/kkk-prison-guards-found-guilty-murder-plot-black-inmate-article-1.3417371

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/13/charlottesville-james-fields-charged-with-was-pictured-at-neo-nazi-rally-vanguard-america

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11987711/Ku-Klux-Klan-leader-sentenced-to-death-for-triple-murder-at-Jewish-centres.html

Don't forget white nationalists too.

antifa has existed for decades

Did you use my comment to make a post. Thanks man if you did. But I truly believe certain agency's over the last decade have purposely inspired people to join the movement to distract not only Americans but other countries also.

I'm under the impression that US citizens have already gave up all their privacy/freedom rights for more security. They don't need more incentive.
The receipt is simple: add "Liberty/freedom" in your law title and say that anybody fighting it is a traitor! Work done, half their population will be defending the law, even if they don't understand it.

1. Antifa is not a group.
2. Antifa as a political concept has existed since the 1930s.

Antifa is not a group.

Yea, it is.

No. It is a political ideology. Some groups have added ANTIFA to their name but, for the most part, it is a series of various groups all having their own interpretation of the idealogy.

Wow, you're totally delusional. You should stop eating up so much ANTIFA lit. They are clearly a group, and they have been since 1932 when they were founded as the militant wing of the Communist Party (and claimed as such in Rote Fahne, their newspaper).

You're little just some edgy dupe. Which year did you drop out of college? Just curious.

Back then they were regarded as a group. Nowadays, nope. Just a political affiliation.

Show me the central ANTIFA organisation.

Show me the central ANTIFA organisation.

You never answered my question.

I'm not American so didn't go to 'college' and if you mean 'what year did you drop out of University?'. The answer is 'I have not, and have been studying almost constantly since 2004 around the other work I do'. Currently hold two degrees. One in British Law, one in Swedish Law, and working towards a Masters in Swedish Law.

I fail to see how that is relevant.

have been studying almost constantly since 2004

Gotcha. Permanent Student. I knew you had to be one of the two.

Well.

No. Not really. The first degree I was permanent (obviously, most people do their first degree full-time), but now I do it part-time. A few hours per week while I work, hence why they have taken substantially longer.

No need to explain, really.

LOL who in their right mind would be scared of Antifa. These niggas can't fight worth shit literally we could wipe them off the face of the earth with like 10 people.

Removed. Rule 4

Wait why?

TPTB is sponsoring Antifa, BLM, The pussy hat freaks, the sudden out of no where "alt-right" movement, these fake neo-nazis showing up rallies sponsored by the deep state. The whole plan is to cause enough conflict it leads to a shooting war, and when the first shots are fired they come for everyone's gun, and when we can't defend ourselves from the jackboots, it's over, like 1984 except full of pajama boys and gender confused children. Big things planned for November 4th.

That one guy ran her over because the Violent AntiFa were attacking his car. It was self defense.

you really need to broaden your range of news sources.

the funny thing is, if antifa is part of this bigger plan as you think, they are just like you accept youre on the other side. youre as bad as eachother.

Wow, you're totally delusional. You should stop eating up so much ANTIFA lit. They are clearly a group, and they have been since 1932 when they were founded as the militant wing of the Communist Party (and claimed as such in Rote Fahne, their newspaper).

You're little just some edgy dupe. Which year did you drop out of college? Just curious.

I'm not American so didn't go to 'college' and if you mean 'what year did you drop out of University?'. The answer is 'I have not, and have been studying almost constantly since 2004 around the other work I do'. Currently hold two degrees. One in British Law, one in Swedish Law, and working towards a Masters in Swedish Law.

I fail to see how that is relevant.

No need to explain, really.

and attacking innocent people

well, they do and hate speech incites those actions. but it is different to antifas actions. i wont look at your links until after the football later, but ive never denied theyre violent, and ive said i dont agree with their actions.

to me, the videos ive seen of antifa attacking people, they look like scared kids who cant fight for shit and gang up on people.

It's very ironic,yes. They silence through violence. Opposing views are to be crushed. By definition they are, themselves, fascists. Interestingly, the new definition of fascism calls it a right-wing ideology. This is revisionism in its finest.

"Nazi is an acronym for National SOCIALIST German Worker's Party. (In German) Obviously a self-declared socialist worker's party is very clearly left-wing."