you can fly in a circle, and with a compass that always points north, you could even think you were maintaining a straight line if you kept the plane oriented relative to the direction the compass is pointing. This is sort of like when flat earther's wonder why a plane flying level wont fly off into space on a sphere.
This is sort of like when flat earther's wonder why a plane flying level wont fly off into space on a sphere
Pilots don't set a straight line forward when they're cruising, they set their altitude to, say, 30.000 feet.
When the autopilot detects that the plane is climbing it automatically adjusts to a continual super slow downwards decent that keeps it level relative to the ground.
Pilots have adjustments for climb and decent where they manually dials in "decent at a constant rate of X feet per minute". This is standard.
Think of it in terms of driving a car driving around a circular lap:
If the car goes straight it'll run off course, so you continually adjust for the roundness of the track.
One could say that with a circular track you can calculate the degrees of turn and assume the car would get all the way around, but there will always be factors you can't calculate for, track condition at various places, head wind an sidewinds and so on.
So when you approach a left or right turn when driving, why don't you just drive straight forward? You compensate by turning the car, relative to the road.
That's basically what planes do when "turning around the planet" instead of just flying into space - beyond the to me obvious problem of air density and wing lift vs. gravity at that altitude.
That would be fun, I'd want to be sure I did all the setup and configuration personally, if for no other reason than to keep from getting the VR hurls... my gut is touchy when it comes to VR.
Personally I think the moon is artificial but beyond human making skills, at least at the current level, maybe some ancient ultra advanced previous civilization of humans.
The controlled opposition is easy to separate from the real argument, their lies dont make sense, the real theory makes all the sense, after hearing the good one once, you dont fall for the shills.
Flat earth is popular in Latin america too.
There are many other holes beyond the wall, we cant resist the trip into the other holes, that is the main reason we dont go. possible multiple suns on the other holes,yes
this video mentions the land beyond the wall FLAT EARTH - 1000 YEARS OLD MAP Shows MORE Land Beyond ...
Video for land beyond the wall flat earth▶ 22:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxumjAIgLiM
Nasa is a branch of the CIA, intended to gather intelligence by launching high altitude balloons in "low earth orbit" using rockets and other things, anything else they claim is false, they have made movies since they can, pretending to go higher and to be in space, faking far objects and discoveries, taking the cash in, cause in the past we could not even try to disprove their claims, all can be kept secret Manhattan project style, compartmentalized and only share knowledge on a need to know basis under threat of murder.
You only discuss NASA and the CIA within the USA only, but you fail to mention Russia, China, India who have satellites that orbit the earth, and space programs as well. Theories that have no merit like this is why the United States is so far behind in education.
NASA is apart of the executive branch as an agency like many other departments that work under the US government. In no way is it a branch of the CIA it's independent from that.
The best you could have said was NASA is a branch of DoD. saying the CIA just shows you don't know much at all.
That is not a problem, keep in mind that the sun and the moon are of similar size and distance, that is why they overlap during the eclipse, is not like they always told you, that the sun is exactly 400 times as far and also 400 times larger than the moon at the same time, that would mean that only in current times there are eclipses since the moon is changing distance from the earth since the beginning of time
everybody knows and every model can predict that the next eclipse is July 2, 2019, Yes, that is my point, the current round model claims that the sun is 400 times larger and 400 times further, if this was true there would not be eclipses in the past, also we have had the flat earth for thousands of years people has always predicted eclipses since Egypt, the round earth model only came about 500 years ago
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also we have had the flat earth for thousands of years people has always predicted eclipses since Egypt, the round earth model only came about 500 years ago
Complete and utter bullshit. We have known the earth is not flat for at least 2000 years. Numerous people calculated the circumference of the earth as well. The idea it was only 500 years ago was made up in the 1800s I believe when they wanted to laugh at the 'superstitious' middle ages etc
luckily thanks to their campaign I was able to see all the nasa lying NASA - A COMPILATION OF LIES AND DECEIT. - YouTube
Video for nasadeceit▶ 55:58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzyPN8-AbJQ
In the Northern Hemisphere, the Northern celestial axis centers primarily around the star Polaris. The stars can be observed moving around this point.
In the Southern Hemisphere, the Southern Celestial Pole is not Polaris. What explanation can you provide for the existence of the South Celestial Pole?
Because no one believes in flat earth . Gave it some time and looked into it, only to come to the belief that it's a conspiracy theory meant to make people in the conspiracy community look ignorant .
earth is not as simple as a flat thing floating, think about an infinite ice plane, we are just a hole made by the sun in that ice, beyond the ice wall outside of the sun's influence, its an infinite Ice field, on top of us there are things, but who knows if what is there is really round, we have a hard perspective to look from
I had a weird probably really dumb thought one day while watching a space station video. If liquid just floats around. What stops it from coming back up after "drinking" it or the acids in your stomach. I'm probably just having a blond moment.
But we know that can't possibly be the case. If we apply the law of perspective we find that we can use the arctan function to find the angle to the sun. Most flat earth models put the sun at about 3000 miles up. If we plug that into the numerator of our arctan, we would need a horizontal distance in the denominator bigger than the earth to get it even close to the horizon.
How does the flat earth model account for this disagreement with the laws of perspective?
Anything claimed to be evidence in this video has a great deal of haze and cloud cover, which obscures the sun in the distance. Any time the sun isn't obscured this, you don't see the expected change in the size of the sun. Why is it so selective?
This perspective matrix has zero experimental, observational, or mathematical evidence to support them. Again, the real Law of Perspective is arctan(height of the object/horizontal distance to object). This will tell you the angle to the object, but only works if we assume the earth is flat (The round earth equations are harder and have more going on). This is tested mathematically and experimentally. People use to to build buildings, or measure the height of a building from it's shadow. If you listen carefully, there is ZERO useful numbers that can be used to apply this to life. "Eventually" it will go below the horizon, but when does this happen, how does height affect this? Even their demonstration has a camera BELOW the table. This same effect is better explained by the above equation. Not only is it better explained, but I can actually make useful predictions.
I'm sorry, but this video is a poor explanation. It is patently false and dishonest.
Why did you reply to me with this video? This entire video is saying that the earth is round and the arguments of flat earth proponents are all flawed.
But that can't be true either. I've driven across North America, and the distances matched what was expected. My odometer and gas usage were what is to be expected. We also have extensive aerial pictures of the earth, which also match what we see in the world around us (google maps, etc).
As for the height of the sun, look at the equinox. At the 45 degrees latitude (southern boarder of Montana, southern France-ish) the sun at local noon will be exactly 45 degrees in the sky. but this line is about 3000 miles from the equator. If you make a triangle out of this (as you could if the earth were flat), you'd get a 45-45-90 right triangle. That means the altitude to the sun and distance to the equator MUST be the same. This is the same trigonometry people use in construction constantly, applied every day in the real world.
Anything claimed to be evidence in this video has a great deal of haze and cloud cover, which obscures the sun in the distance. Any time the sun isn't obscured this, you don't see the expected change in the size of the sun. Why is it so selective?
This perspective matrix has zero experimental, observational, or mathematical evidence to support them. Again, the real Law of Perspective is arctan(height of the object/horizontal distance to object). This will tell you the angle to the object, but only works if we assume the earth is flat (The round earth equations are harder and have more going on). This is tested mathematically and experimentally. People use to to build buildings, or measure the height of a building from it's shadow. If you listen carefully, there is ZERO useful numbers that can be used to apply this to life. "Eventually" it will go below the horizon, but when does this happen, how does height affect this? Even their demonstration has a camera BELOW the table. This same effect is better explained by the above equation. Not only is it better explained, but I can actually make useful predictions.
I'm sorry, but this video is a poor explanation. It is patently false and dishonest.
But that can't be true either. I've driven across North America, and the distances matched what was expected. My odometer and gas usage were what is to be expected. We also have extensive aerial pictures of the earth, which also match what we see in the world around us (google maps, etc).
As for the height of the sun, look at the equinox. At the 45 degrees latitude (southern boarder of Montana, southern France-ish) the sun at local noon will be exactly 45 degrees in the sky. but this line is about 3000 miles from the equator. If you make a triangle out of this (as you could if the earth were flat), you'd get a 45-45-90 right triangle. That means the altitude to the sun and distance to the equator MUST be the same. This is the same trigonometry people use in construction constantly, applied every day in the real world.
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1 ENDLESSBLOCKADEZ 2017-10-21
The money dried up, people moved on the LV and Weinstein concern trolling
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
I see, if it was the sharia blue and the shills with the flat earth things, I think they got me, I believe it now for realz
1 Modtrigger3X 2017-10-21
Is sharia blue the Muslim Orthodox converts within the blue Man group.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
That too
1 MilkyWitness 2017-10-21
If I fly West from the equator, and continue to fly west why will I end back up at where I started?
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
you can accomplish that on the flat earth plane
1 Wildinvalid 2017-10-21
Great answer! It's all so clear now
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
you can fly in a circle, and with a compass that always points north, you could even think you were maintaining a straight line if you kept the plane oriented relative to the direction the compass is pointing. This is sort of like when flat earther's wonder why a plane flying level wont fly off into space on a sphere.
1 seattleman21 2017-10-21
Wait that actually made sense. A perfect east to west doesn't exist if one direction is always pointing north
1 55555656777778 2017-10-21
Pilots don't set a straight line forward when they're cruising, they set their altitude to, say, 30.000 feet.
When the autopilot detects that the plane is climbing it automatically adjusts to a continual super slow downwards decent that keeps it level relative to the ground.
Pilots have adjustments for climb and decent where they manually dials in "decent at a constant rate of X feet per minute". This is standard.
Think of it in terms of driving a car driving around a circular lap:
If the car goes straight it'll run off course, so you continually adjust for the roundness of the track.
One could say that with a circular track you can calculate the degrees of turn and assume the car would get all the way around, but there will always be factors you can't calculate for, track condition at various places, head wind an sidewinds and so on.
So when you approach a left or right turn when driving, why don't you just drive straight forward? You compensate by turning the car, relative to the road.
That's basically what planes do when "turning around the planet" instead of just flying into space - beyond the to me obvious problem of air density and wing lift vs. gravity at that altitude.
1 sgt_mjr_stretchnuts 2017-10-21
This is why I want to charter a flight around the world from north to south... for science.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
Mee too
1 sgt_mjr_stretchnuts 2017-10-21
I guess I could have fun while I was at it, but the science, the science...
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
I would be satisfied with a remote controlled vr equipped drone
1 sgt_mjr_stretchnuts 2017-10-21
That would be fun, I'd want to be sure I did all the setup and configuration personally, if for no other reason than to keep from getting the VR hurls... my gut is touchy when it comes to VR.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
sorry to hear that, there is medication for that now, hope we get to enjoy drone racing and exploration soon
1 sgt_mjr_stretchnuts 2017-10-21
Like Dramamine? Never thought to use that stuff... I love my VR Headset, it's just that I can't do marathon sessions with it like I used to.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
not sure what is the name, but it appears to be effective against sea sickness
1 Funbucket42 2017-10-21
Because the earth is round...
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
I am not sure anymore
1 BayAreaFlyer 2017-10-21
Seriously? Any numb nut can go buy a model rocket with a camera and see that the Earth is round. Put down the meth pipe bro
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
That is the thing, when they do it looks flat, unless they have a fish eyed lens
1 WadeWilsonforPope 2017-10-21
You have to ignore the examples contrary to what youre saying though.
There are a ton of examples of high altitude curvature. Even Concorde and SR71 pilots will confirm curvature at high altitude.
1 NOcomedy 2017-10-21
The carnival of retards departed after massive downvoting
1 vegaswasreal 2017-10-21
How is babby formed?
1 Metki 2017-10-21
What's the point of hiding flat earth?
If earth is flat, whats the big deal in pretending its round?
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
Making it so you cant trust your senses and only believe what the authority tells you its real, that way they can tell you anything and you'll obey
1 HowManyWerePureTho 2017-10-21
Yes yes, distrust the authorities - trust (((Dubay)))
1 pajamajoe 2017-10-21
How does a flat earth help with this though? Couldn't you make the exact same assertion with pretty much anything?
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
yes it could be anything, like telling you magic is real
1 pmichel 2017-10-21
separate us from our creator
1 seattleman21 2017-10-21
Still there? Typing a few now
1 seattleman21 2017-10-21
What do you think of the moon? Man made? Purpose?
How did you guys overcome controlled opposition and where do you guys actively debate that's not controlled opposition?
Does flat earth exist in other countries?
Land beyond the wall? Do multiple suns exist?
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
Personally I think the moon is artificial but beyond human making skills, at least at the current level, maybe some ancient ultra advanced previous civilization of humans. The controlled opposition is easy to separate from the real argument, their lies dont make sense, the real theory makes all the sense, after hearing the good one once, you dont fall for the shills. Flat earth is popular in Latin america too. There are many other holes beyond the wall, we cant resist the trip into the other holes, that is the main reason we dont go. possible multiple suns on the other holes,yes
1 seattleman21 2017-10-21
Elaborate resisting the trip to other holes. Where can I research these holes?
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
this video mentions the land beyond the wall FLAT EARTH - 1000 YEARS OLD MAP Shows MORE Land Beyond ... Video for land beyond the wall flat earth▶ 22:18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxumjAIgLiM
1 Jdl112086 2017-10-21
Why would the moon be round and earth flat? Same with the sun?
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
The moon and the sun are not the way they have been presented to us, that is part of the theory
1 mybluejeans 2017-10-21
Is this a drinking game? Reply with rocket : drink 1 ; reply with North Pole: chug, reply with Australia and Argentina: finish beer ..,
1 raglan35 2017-10-21
Gr8 B8 M8
1 Claypot 2017-10-21
There would have to be some giant invisible teleport portal if the earth was flat.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
No need for the portal for people to walk in circles on a forest, they think they are going straight too but end up in the same place
1 _another_throwawayy_ 2017-10-21
What is your theory on Nasa? That would be an awful lot of people needed to keep a secret.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
Nasa is a branch of the CIA, intended to gather intelligence by launching high altitude balloons in "low earth orbit" using rockets and other things, anything else they claim is false, they have made movies since they can, pretending to go higher and to be in space, faking far objects and discoveries, taking the cash in, cause in the past we could not even try to disprove their claims, all can be kept secret Manhattan project style, compartmentalized and only share knowledge on a need to know basis under threat of murder.
1 HangryBuffaloBill 2017-10-21
so all the mars missions and saturn and everything is fake?
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
Yes 100%
1 graciousintent 2017-10-21
You only discuss NASA and the CIA within the USA only, but you fail to mention Russia, China, India who have satellites that orbit the earth, and space programs as well. Theories that have no merit like this is why the United States is so far behind in education.
NASA is apart of the executive branch as an agency like many other departments that work under the US government. In no way is it a branch of the CIA it's independent from that.
The best you could have said was NASA is a branch of DoD. saying the CIA just shows you don't know much at all.
Stop doing drugs.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
They are all in cahoots, or they know better than to go public with findings that go against the accepted narrative
1 Sarcasticus 2017-10-21
Predict a future eclipse using the flat earth model.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
That is not a problem, keep in mind that the sun and the moon are of similar size and distance, that is why they overlap during the eclipse, is not like they always told you, that the sun is exactly 400 times as far and also 400 times larger than the moon at the same time, that would mean that only in current times there are eclipses since the moon is changing distance from the earth since the beginning of time
1 Sarcasticus 2017-10-21
And so using your model, when are the next lunar and solar eclipses?
Currently, the ball earth model can predict eclipses with 100% accuracy.
Further, there exists a written history of eclipses going back thousands of years, so the idea that eclipses only occur in modern times is false.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
everybody knows and every model can predict that the next eclipse is July 2, 2019, Yes, that is my point, the current round model claims that the sun is 400 times larger and 400 times further, if this was true there would not be eclipses in the past, also we have had the flat earth for thousands of years people has always predicted eclipses since Egypt, the round earth model only came about 500 years ago
1 Sarcasticus 2017-10-21
Show me exactly how the flat earth model predicts such an eclipse. i.e., show me the math behind it.
That's a radical misunderstanding of the ball Earth model.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
At this particular moment in Earth's history – although the sun's diameter is about 400 times larger than that of the moon – the sun is also about 400 times farther away. So the sun and moon appear nearly the same size as seen from Earth. https://www.google.com/search?q=reason+moon+400+times+larger+further&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiwgYjHvoPXAhUKLyYKHd3eBMEQBQgiKAA&biw=1920&bih=949
1 Sarcasticus 2017-10-21
Do you have the math showing how a flat earth model predicts eclipses or don't you?
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
If I bring the math, would you be able to read it?, anyway a phenomenon like an eclipse can be explained many different ways, it all depends on your "FRAME OF REFERENCE" this is the reason the debate even exists, we dont know what is the center, the sun? the earth? the milky way?, if you use the flat earth model, you can explain all visible phenomena https://www.reddit.com/r/Flatearther/comments/77ctsg/10_science_questions_globers_resort_to_bullshit/?st=j92ofko0&sh=ad4ce051
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1 Sarcasticus 2017-10-21
Yes, this is why I keep asking for it.
Except for eclipses, which no one has offered a credible explanation for how this would work in a flat earth model.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
Check this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgPzqjm5Wog I promise to look up the math for you, bring it back here later today
1 Terex80 2017-10-21
Complete and utter bullshit. We have known the earth is not flat for at least 2000 years. Numerous people calculated the circumference of the earth as well. The idea it was only 500 years ago was made up in the 1800s I believe when they wanted to laugh at the 'superstitious' middle ages etc
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-21
Flat earth is still a massive psy-op brought to you by our own psychological warfare department
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
luckily thanks to their campaign I was able to see all the nasa lying NASA - A COMPILATION OF LIES AND DECEIT. - YouTube Video for nasadeceit▶ 55:58 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzyPN8-AbJQ
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-21
It's still not flat man
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
I am honestly Not sure anymore
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-10-21
If ever in the st. Louis area let me know, I would have ya talk with my uncle he works for the NGA here. You would love to hear what he has to say
1 StrangeNewEra 2017-10-21
Do you think Earth will ever grow a nice pair of tits?
1 orrery 2017-10-21
In the Northern Hemisphere, the Northern celestial axis centers primarily around the star Polaris. The stars can be observed moving around this point.
In the Southern Hemisphere, the Southern Celestial Pole is not Polaris. What explanation can you provide for the existence of the South Celestial Pole?
1 1618b 2017-10-21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omCXBucm7KM
1 antx92 2017-10-21
Kyrie Irving is that you?
1 Dont_ban_me_brah 2017-10-21
Because no one believes in flat earth . Gave it some time and looked into it, only to come to the belief that it's a conspiracy theory meant to make people in the conspiracy community look ignorant .
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-21
Why does the southern tip of South America get 17hrs of sun in December? https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/argentina/ushuaia
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
the sun spins around the earth hole in circles that get larger and smaller, when the sun its at its smallest circle some areas get 24 hours sun
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-21
I understand. But this area would be on the outermost edge of a flat earth model.
1 pajamajoe 2017-10-21
Do flat earthers believe all celestial bodies are flat as well?
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
No, but space is not like they teach it
1 pajamajoe 2017-10-21
So earth just happens to be the only flat object in our solar system? All the other planets, moons and suns are round but earth is magically flat?
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
earth is not as simple as a flat thing floating, think about an infinite ice plane, we are just a hole made by the sun in that ice, beyond the ice wall outside of the sun's influence, its an infinite Ice field, on top of us there are things, but who knows if what is there is really round, we have a hard perspective to look from
1 pajamajoe 2017-10-21
I literally don't understand anything you just said
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
Here this will Illustrate what I mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk3YndyvdKc
1 melonballerbabe 2017-10-21
I had a weird probably really dumb thought one day while watching a space station video. If liquid just floats around. What stops it from coming back up after "drinking" it or the acids in your stomach. I'm probably just having a blond moment.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
The epiglottis would prevent that, but who knows
1 melonballerbabe 2017-10-21
Yea I thought that but idk lol seems like it'd be floating up as far as it could and that doesn't seem ideal.
1 justinxduff 2017-10-21
What do you think about the latest LIGO discovery
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
1 justinxduff 2017-10-21
Any proof for that claim?
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
https://allgovernmentslie.com/lies
1 Aeocs 2017-10-21
Just watch the live steam videos from the space station. It's obviously not flat.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
Those are faked on the giant pool they have, that is why you see bubbles in space, also CGI and low earth orbit with fish eye lens
1 TheUnmashedPotato 2017-10-21
How does the sun appear to set?
If you look at the angles with basically any flat earth model, it should never get within 10 degrees of the horizon.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
As it moves further away perspective makes it look like is setting
1 TheUnmashedPotato 2017-10-21
But we know that can't possibly be the case. If we apply the law of perspective we find that we can use the arctan function to find the angle to the sun. Most flat earth models put the sun at about 3000 miles up. If we plug that into the numerator of our arctan, we would need a horizontal distance in the denominator bigger than the earth to get it even close to the horizon.
How does the flat earth model account for this disagreement with the laws of perspective?
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Kl5T1Ob6M
1 TheUnmashedPotato 2017-10-21
Anything claimed to be evidence in this video has a great deal of haze and cloud cover, which obscures the sun in the distance. Any time the sun isn't obscured this, you don't see the expected change in the size of the sun. Why is it so selective?
This perspective matrix has zero experimental, observational, or mathematical evidence to support them. Again, the real Law of Perspective is arctan(height of the object/horizontal distance to object). This will tell you the angle to the object, but only works if we assume the earth is flat (The round earth equations are harder and have more going on). This is tested mathematically and experimentally. People use to to build buildings, or measure the height of a building from it's shadow. If you listen carefully, there is ZERO useful numbers that can be used to apply this to life. "Eventually" it will go below the horizon, but when does this happen, how does height affect this? Even their demonstration has a camera BELOW the table. This same effect is better explained by the above equation. Not only is it better explained, but I can actually make useful predictions.
I'm sorry, but this video is a poor explanation. It is patently false and dishonest.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
curvature and perspective in the flat earth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ksbh88OJs
1 TheUnmashedPotato 2017-10-21
Why did you reply to me with this video? This entire video is saying that the earth is round and the arguments of flat earth proponents are all flawed.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
The earth extends for longer than they would have you believe, also the sun is smaller, closer and faster than they have us believe
1 TheUnmashedPotato 2017-10-21
But that can't be true either. I've driven across North America, and the distances matched what was expected. My odometer and gas usage were what is to be expected. We also have extensive aerial pictures of the earth, which also match what we see in the world around us (google maps, etc).
As for the height of the sun, look at the equinox. At the 45 degrees latitude (southern boarder of Montana, southern France-ish) the sun at local noon will be exactly 45 degrees in the sky. but this line is about 3000 miles from the equator. If you make a triangle out of this (as you could if the earth were flat), you'd get a 45-45-90 right triangle. That means the altitude to the sun and distance to the equator MUST be the same. This is the same trigonometry people use in construction constantly, applied every day in the real world.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
google maps shows a curvature that doesnt correlate with the real world, also, about the distance of the sun, if the sun is so far how come there are cloud hot spots? https://www.google.com/search?q=hot+spot+over+clouds&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
1 bacare 2017-10-21
please obtain a ham radio license... once you understand radio waves you will realize that flat earth is impossible.
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
Would be nice, I will look into it
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
That too
1 of_mendez 2017-10-21
No need for the portal for people to walk in circles on a forest, they think they are going straight too but end up in the same place
1 Sarcasticus 2017-10-21
And so using your model, when are the next lunar and solar eclipses?
Currently, the ball earth model can predict eclipses with 100% accuracy.
Further, there exists a written history of eclipses going back thousands of years, so the idea that eclipses only occur in modern times is false.
1 HowManyWerePureTho 2017-10-21
Yes yes, distrust the authorities - trust (((Dubay)))
1 pajamajoe 2017-10-21
How does a flat earth help with this though? Couldn't you make the exact same assertion with pretty much anything?
1 TheUnmashedPotato 2017-10-21
Anything claimed to be evidence in this video has a great deal of haze and cloud cover, which obscures the sun in the distance. Any time the sun isn't obscured this, you don't see the expected change in the size of the sun. Why is it so selective?
This perspective matrix has zero experimental, observational, or mathematical evidence to support them. Again, the real Law of Perspective is arctan(height of the object/horizontal distance to object). This will tell you the angle to the object, but only works if we assume the earth is flat (The round earth equations are harder and have more going on). This is tested mathematically and experimentally. People use to to build buildings, or measure the height of a building from it's shadow. If you listen carefully, there is ZERO useful numbers that can be used to apply this to life. "Eventually" it will go below the horizon, but when does this happen, how does height affect this? Even their demonstration has a camera BELOW the table. This same effect is better explained by the above equation. Not only is it better explained, but I can actually make useful predictions.
I'm sorry, but this video is a poor explanation. It is patently false and dishonest.
1 TheUnmashedPotato 2017-10-21
But that can't be true either. I've driven across North America, and the distances matched what was expected. My odometer and gas usage were what is to be expected. We also have extensive aerial pictures of the earth, which also match what we see in the world around us (google maps, etc).
As for the height of the sun, look at the equinox. At the 45 degrees latitude (southern boarder of Montana, southern France-ish) the sun at local noon will be exactly 45 degrees in the sky. but this line is about 3000 miles from the equator. If you make a triangle out of this (as you could if the earth were flat), you'd get a 45-45-90 right triangle. That means the altitude to the sun and distance to the equator MUST be the same. This is the same trigonometry people use in construction constantly, applied every day in the real world.