Why is soy in everything?

28  2017-10-22 by HighFrequencyVibes

Why is soybean oil and soy lecithin in practically everything? It's literally in stuff that it doesn't need to be in. Is it part of the big agriculture conspiracy? Part of the nWo food agenda to keep the population cognitively and physically weak?

58 comments

1  bannanaflame 2017-10-22

Because it's easy to produce in vast quantities and less of a ecological menace than corn.

For those that don't know vegetable oil =soybean oil

1  AspiringOligarch 2017-10-22

For those that don't know vegetable oil =soybean oil

Or corn oil or canola (rapeseed) oil or safflower oil or sunflower oil or cottonseed oil... etc.

Like soy, many of these are genetically modified.

1  ChronologicalWrath 2017-10-22

Palm

1  lavendula13 2017-10-22

Not less of an ecological menace but more: corn won't give you tits or cancer in its true form. Be exacting.

1  xKarmek 2017-10-22

From what I've read on the subject, phytoestrogens had an impact on rats' testosterones levels but not on men. Would you happen to have a source for your claim that they have an impact on males ?

1  lavendula13 2017-10-22

In men who ingest these EMCs, common symptoms include low semen concentrations, poor semen quality, lack of sperm motility, and eventually a reduced sexual appetite,2 problems that can usually be reversed when exposure to estrogens is terminated. For the developing male fetus, however, these environmental estrogens can have severe and life-long detrimental consequences to reproductive and urogenital development. https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/soy-alert/effects-of-antenatal-exposure-to-phytoestrogens-on-human-male-reproductive-and-urogenital-development/

1  xKarmek 2017-10-22

Interesting. This is based on a 1998 study, when the more recent studies ( 2006, 2009, 2010 and 2011) don't seem to find a correlation between high phytoestrogen intake and reduction in male fertility. A 2008 study did find that it could effect sperm motility but they couldn't say if it was linked to a soy-heavy diet.

Don't know what to think honestly.

1  lavendula13 2017-10-22

Think that Monsanto funded a lot of political candidates.

1  downtowne 2017-10-22

Because it is estrogenic, cheap animal grade protein and bad for you. Also, Monsanto.

1  banusaur 2017-10-22

It's a highly nutritious food with no estrogen. Dairy on the other hand is pumped full of that shit to increase yield per cow.

1  downtowne 2017-10-22

Sorry no

1  banusaur 2017-10-22

That's not an argument! That's just contradiction!

1  downtowne 2017-10-22

I didn't know we were doing arguments. You aren't doing arguments. Good job on the argument identification.

1  RMFN 2017-10-22

To kill you.

1  KarmaPolice777 2017-10-22

soy and wheat. It's in almost everything.

1  natasha2827 2017-10-22

and milk

1  LurkMcGurck 2017-10-22

And sugar, don't forget sugar.

1  verstohlen 2017-10-22

And Monsanto's Glypho-Delicious® Genetically Altered Round-Up Ready Corn! Now with extra Glyphospate and chromosomes!

1  ChronologicalWrath 2017-10-22

Potato starch, egg, 'spices'...

1  SetiAlphaSix 2017-10-22

To give us tits.

1  melonballerbabe 2017-10-22

Lowers aggression...

1  banusaur 2017-10-22

You must be confusing soy with hormone-laced dairy.

Soy is tits-free: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19524224

1  dowodenum 2017-10-22

J.H.-R while a doctoral student at the University of Minnesota received some minor funding from the Soy Nutrition Institute for work on this manuscript. G.V. has nothing to disclose. S.J.D. has nothing to disclose. W.R.P. has nothing to disclose. M.S.K. occasionally consults for the Solae Company. M.J.M. regularly consults for companies in the soy food industry.

1  Chokaholic 2017-10-22

I think it's called gynochomastia, otherwise know is bitch tits.

1  Res_hits 2017-10-22

It's cheap and it's nitrogen fixer.

1  mombomb22 2017-10-22

Cheaper than meat

1  alvarezg 2017-10-22

Nah, just cheap.

1  errantdashingseagull 2017-10-22

It's literally in stuff that it doesn't need to be in

How did you determine that?

1  HighFrequencyVibes 2017-10-22

I'm pretty sure people have been making pasta and bread without soy for centuries. I also don't see why it's necessary in ice cream. Soy is ubiquitous in nearly all restaurants. The stuff without soy at some of these places is literally just a glass of water. Which of course contains flouride.

1  whitenoisegarbling 2017-10-22

or chocolate

1  applextrent 2017-10-22

Boosts estrogen levels in both men in women.

Boosting estrogen in men feminizes them.

Boosting estrogen in women messes up their hormones and alters their moods.

It’s also a cheap filler and high profitable.

1  CynicalLeaf 2017-10-22

Estradiol, which is the most potent form of estrogen, is the end product of a metabolic pathway that forms testosterone

1  AspiringOligarch 2017-10-22

That's a fun fact, but entirely irrelevant to the discussion.

Soy is not estrogen, rather, it has estrogenic properties, meaning that it attaches to estrogen receptors, and can trigger biological changes associated with said receptors.

1  CynicalLeaf 2017-10-22

Soy is not an estrogen

Soy is one of the richest sources of phytoestrogen

1  AspiringOligarch 2017-10-22

Phytoestrogens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens

vs

Estrogens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estrogen

If a human child mimics monkeys, behaves like a monkey, and can cause other animals to react to him as they would react to monkeys, does that mean the child is in fact a monkey?

1  CynicalLeaf 2017-10-22

phytoestrogens mimic estrogen.

1  AspiringOligarch 2017-10-22

Yeah, I said as much above:

'The downside is that soy contains an isoflavone called genistein, a potent endocrine disruptor, exerting such strong estrogenic effects on humans that it has been one of the primary ingredients in 'natural' supplements to treat menopause symptoms.'

Do you have a point, or???

1  CynicalLeaf 2017-10-22

they mimic estrogens

they still do the same thing that I said in my initial post little girl.

1  AspiringOligarch 2017-10-22

Your original post tried to correlate the metabolic synthesis of testosterone to estradiol with soy.

It was bunk garbage.

1  CynicalLeaf 2017-10-22

nope....phytoestrogens at like estrogens/estradiol.

1  AspiringOligarch 2017-10-22

Yep....monkey at like typewriter/U.

1  CynicalLeaf 2017-10-22

you do try to insult me? doesn't work dude.

you monk aspiring key

1  lavendula13 2017-10-22

More important, in terms of the endgame, when men are completely feminized, there won't be any more babies - at least among the 99 percent!

1  TwoUmm 2017-10-22

The only actual reason it's being used was the last one you stated. Come on people. Take off your tinfoil hats.

1  bannana 2017-10-22

cheap filler that is a sub for meat and won't freak people out when they see it on an ingredients list since they've been told for decades they should sub soy for meat. doubtful it's intentional to alter human behaviour it's just convenient and cheap though the side effects do seem to coincide with some larger game plans.

1  PoppaSynth 2017-10-22

ITS PEOPLE

1  SnugMeatSocks 2017-10-22

SOYlent. I get it

1  PoppaSynth 2017-10-22

Oh good. I was hoping I wasnt too old haha

1  AspiringOligarch 2017-10-22

From the business perspective, it is easy to grow and harvest, extremely versatile not only in foods, but other industrial applications, etc.

From the consumer perspective, decades of propaganda have created the perception that soy products are healthy, wholesome, and 'green', soy protein billed as a 'humane' alternative to meat products. It was the primary ingredient in many baby formulas.

The downside is that soy contains an isoflavone called genistein, a potent endocrine disruptor, exerting such strong estrogenic effects on humans that it has been one of the primary ingredients in 'natural' supplements to treat menopause symptoms.

Another serious concern is that the vast majority of soy grown has been genetically modified to resist glyphosate (Roundup), and this powerful herbicide (and the chemical cocktail with which it is applied) are certain to be present in all products made from GMO soy - and there is no law requiring GMO products to be labeled as such.

Of course soy (predominately GMO soy) is a very profitable crop, so related industries have invested heavily in propaganda downplaying any potential hazards, and aggressively attacking scientists or others who threaten their cash cow.

1  HighFrequencyVibes 2017-10-22

It is truly sinister in nature.

1  AspiringOligarch 2017-10-22

I assume you mean the corporations and their propagandists and lobbyists, and I agree.

Soy is just a plant, or at least it was, until Monstranto turned it into a FrankenPlant.

1  alltargetsgreen 2017-10-22

Dont ask questions, a good goy always eats their soy.

1  HighFrequencyVibes 2017-10-22

Never

1  frickenWaaaltah 2017-10-22

Crop rotation.

Soy took off in the US because it's a good crop rotation with corn planting. Instead of corn all the time, they alternate plantings between corn and soy, and get better yield of both crops because of the alternation.

1  Dippy_Egg 2017-10-22

Because farmers are subsidized to grow soy.

1  fiercehummingbird 2017-10-22

I think I read that they planted soybean to help the soil during the Dust Bowl and thought that’s why it’s everywhere.

1  HowManyWerePureTho 2017-10-22

Soy lecithin makes you cum buckets if you supplement it, plus we all know what soy rhymes with...

1  CinderellasABitch 2017-10-22

Because its used to make MSG which makes you addicted to the food you're eating. But msg is bad, so they call it "soy" which is "good". Everyone seems to think there's no more msg in food after the scare in the 90's but there's more of it now than ever before. P.S. Its a neurotoxin.

1  natasha2827 2017-10-22

and milk

1  LurkMcGurck 2017-10-22

And sugar, don't forget sugar.

1  whitenoisegarbling 2017-10-22

or chocolate

1  downtowne 2017-10-22

I didn't know we were doing arguments. You aren't doing arguments. Good job on the argument identification.

1  verstohlen 2017-10-22

And Monsanto's Glypho-Delicious® Genetically Altered Round-Up Ready Corn! Now with extra Glyphospate and chromosomes!

1  ChronologicalWrath 2017-10-22

Potato starch, egg, 'spices'...