With all the drama going on, why diddnt I see any Reddit posts on r/all talking about how trump killed Obamacare?
5 2017-10-26 by AFuckYou
The treasury is apart of the executive branch. Obama care relied on the executive issuing money payments illegally to insurance companies, illegal is debatable.
Trump is refusing to make treasury payments citing that its illegal. Trump single handedly ended Obamacare care.
I'm not talking politics. I'm talking conspiracy. Am I out of the loop or did this just not get reported?
32 comments
1 bradok 2017-10-26
Because, as far as my understanding goes, he didn't actually do that. Mainly because the mandate is still in place, which means the IRS can take action against someone for not having insurance, by law. Now, I don't like Obamacare because it is a massive corporate giveaway that created an unnecessary monopoly for the Insurance industry, I would much rather see Single Payer or at least a Medicare buy-in Public Option.
1 AFuckYou 2017-10-26
Good point. It is still in place. It just won't function any more.
1 Ohi8one2 2017-10-26
Correct, he is dismantling the ACA from the inside by changing individual aspects at a time. It still "exists", but will work completely different and be unrecognizable when he's done, and will most likely be rebranded with a new name in the future.
1 JwPATX 2017-10-26
If it only functioned by virtue of executive orders (which is what he did, undo an executive order from the previous administration) then it never actually functioned in the first place, which I think is the political point on the right.. The non-political point/the other part of his executive order though, of which no one making this kind of claim seems to be aware, is that now insurance companies can sell insurance across state lines. We're not bribing them with taxpayer money to stay in exchanges anymore, we're bribing them with increased volume and access to more consumers. It's probably a net zero overall.
1 montrev 2017-10-26
repubs always secretly liked the mandate, they believe it forces lazy millenials to have "skin in the game" obamacare is romneycare and now it is the best kind of repubcare, no subisides for the poor, and a huge mandate burden on the middle class, no extra taxes on the rich.
1 RMFN 2017-10-26
Obama care is awful. It is literally designed to bankrupt people.
1 vegaswasreal 2017-10-26
Yeah because it will premiums go up almost 40 percent next year. Guess who did that.
1 RMFN 2017-10-26
Are you stalking me?
1 vegaswasreal 2017-10-26
Don’t pull that bullshit on me.
1 RMFN 2017-10-26
Serious question. Every time I post something there you are. It's honestly creepy.
1 vegaswasreal 2017-10-26
It’s an Internet forum.
1 RMFN 2017-10-26
That you seem to be stalking me on.. Idk it's just creepy. If I said something to offend you thats one thing. But appearing every time I make a post is very toxic behavior.
Am I not allowed to have opinions? Do you want to silence me?
You can't squirm out of this one we know what you are. You have what a twenty day old account? Why do you need to reinvent yourself every few weeks? Because we found out what you're doing?
1 vegaswasreal 2017-10-26
I honestly don't mean to creep you out. It seems we both participate through the new queue.
You are welcome to your opinions, but I have as much of a right to take issue with them on a public forum as you do to have them.
And I know you're calling me a shill. I wish I got paid for this, alas, I do not.
1 montrev 2017-10-26
just block him, don't waste any time on these types. defending obamacare = all you need to know
1 RMFN 2017-10-26
Thank you. You're right.
1 montrev 2017-10-26
why were premiums going up at all. it was called the affordable care act but wasn't affordable. need premiums to go DOWN to be a viable plan. single payer or nothing.
1 vegaswasreal 2017-10-26
Agreed, my man. Let’s get free.
1 montrev 2017-10-26
called single payer not single free
it's based on the idea that you buy in bulk, you get a discount
or we can make a law saying you have to buy overpriced junk.
1 vegaswasreal 2017-10-26
Let’s get “free” from the shackles.
Lighten up a little. Jesus Christ. I agreed with you.
1 montrev 2017-10-26
nice try but no you were trying to act single payer is impossible and it's a magic liberal utopia idea. no, it's very common.
1 vegaswasreal 2017-10-26
Ok man. See ya
1 xOchox 2017-10-26
Its designed to funnel tax payer money directly to corporations, people being extra poor for having to use it just breeds more dependency on the gov which gives them more power of our day to day lives.
1 peyote_the_coyote 2017-10-26
Obama Care sucks, I'm glad it was killed.
1 vegaswasreal 2017-10-26
Right on cue to defend daddy!
1 peyote_the_coyote 2017-10-26
You have no argument, so you have to attack commenters on this sub.
1 vegaswasreal 2017-10-26
I have the exact opposite post history as you, yet only one of us is called a shill. THats my argument. You're all over the place defending your daddy, but if I submit an article, it's "fake news".
1 peyote_the_coyote 2017-10-26
Your argument is weak.
I don't like Obamacare, therefore I am a shill.
Fucking try again kiddo!
1 vegaswasreal 2017-10-26
I never said you were.
Have a good day, lady.
1 peyote_the_coyote 2017-10-26
15 day old account, come back in a year.
1 vegaswasreal 2017-10-26
Funny. You’ve been posting since the primaries started last year.
1 OfTheAlien 2017-10-26
Peyote_the_Coyote is the alt account of user Blacksunalchemy Compare their comment history and you will see the same writing style and triggers, and a few times, he comments on his own Minecraft and r/Conspiracy bans.
1 vegaswasreal 2017-10-26
I figured as much. I actually pegged him as a mod alt.
1 theawesomethatis 2017-10-26
Because the people who would normally tell you about how that is destroying the world omg we're all gonna die now for sure this time really!
are all scrambling around to find some way to make uranium1 go away.
1 vegaswasreal 2017-10-26
Right on cue to defend daddy!
1 AFuckYou 2017-10-26
Good point. It is still in place. It just won't function any more.
1 peyote_the_coyote 2017-10-26
You have no argument, so you have to attack commenters on this sub.
1 montrev 2017-10-26
repubs always secretly liked the mandate, they believe it forces lazy millenials to have "skin in the game" obamacare is romneycare and now it is the best kind of repubcare, no subisides for the poor, and a huge mandate burden on the middle class, no extra taxes on the rich.
1 montrev 2017-10-26
nice try but no you were trying to act single payer is impossible and it's a magic liberal utopia idea. no, it's very common.