what are your sources on fluoride suppressing cognitive ability and poisoning our bodies and minds? i would be interested in taking a look at any reliable sources.

http://fluoridealert.org/articles/50-reasons/

another relevant article: http://fluoridealert.org/issues/health/pineal-gland/

Indeed. I was hoping that user would explore the website. They are an organization trying to tackle this with science.

Ur own health not interest you? Too lazy for off tv and search by yourself? Just want scieence and scientist take decisions for you?

i don't even own a tv dude, calm down. i think it's a pretty reasonable request to ask someone to cite their sources when making a claim, do you not?

Ur right, i maybe overreact a little.

There was a study done by Harvard on fluoride leading to lower IQ's in children. I saw it posted in this sub or uncensored news.

I agree about fluoride being terrible in our driving water. IQ tests been debatable. Children now seems more intelligent than the previous generation, however more sensitive.

Can confirm. 19 and all my friends want to die.

When I was 19 ten years ago all my friends wanted to die as well. I think that might be just being 19.

It definitely is.

Conspiracy theory: they all had in common that they were your friend

???

Tamarind to help remove it. There have been nih.gov (or similar) studies.

What about turmeric?

Looks like it, along with tulsi:
http://naturalsociety.com/turmeric-can-save-brain-fluoride-poisoning/

Pulp from seed pod from Africa, sweet+sour, used in African, Indian, and Latin American food.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11840184

https://www.naturalhealth365.com/tamarind-chronic-disease-2019.html

Yes, it calcifies the pineal gland.

Take iodine to help clean it.

I'll look into this.

I love this spiritual stuff

Well, it's in the definition of fluoride. So there's that. Also, what is pumped into the water is not fluoride (if anything it's should be fluorite), it's hexafluosilicic acid. Which is literally industrial waste. A by product of mainly aluminum manufacturing. I wonder who made the financial push in "modern" medicine to extol the virtues of fluoride. Hmmmmmm.

Hint: it was Alcoa.

Now get researching

Its a heavy metal, and like all heavy metals, gets carried into the brain where it gets stuck and tends to accumulate over very long periods of times.

Same with calcium oddly enough, i think it odd the big calcium push back in the 50's and 60's and adding it to milk and drinking milk every day. Turns out our bones dont even use alot of calcium, it uses alot of different materials to build itself. So why the big push for calcium?

Oddly enough its like a heavy metal as it goes to the brain and tends to accumulate on your pineal gland, which in ancient times was once considered the organ responsible for your connection with the universe. Maybe its not about just slowing peoples cognitive functions so they can be more easily swayed by emotion and mind control tactics. Maybe its also about cutting of peoples ability to connect to the reality around them.

It could explain why children are so much more perceptive and open to the world around them, and as you grow up you slowly but surely lose that ability, and I have always wondered why.

Fluoride is not a heavy metal.

Have you contacted your local water department? I applaud you for your concerns, however, most flouride injection occurs in large metropolitan areas (at least 100,000 people). Fluoride is not only expensive to acquire but also to inject. Fluoride is extremly toxic. Worse than chlorine gas injection.

Map by county in the US.

This is a fascinating map. I've never seen this before. I wonder how much of the fluoridation is naturally occurring from the existing geology and how much is injected? I live in Indiana. I also find it interesting how the area around Ball State seems to be treated with fluoride. Ball State has horrible water. It stinks of chlorine. It is so heavily treated after taking a shower it feels as if you just got out of a pool.

That map is 11 years old. I wonder what the map would look like now.

This map looks like a natural experiment to me.

I did a foia request for my local municipality once. It was 10,000's of thousands of dollars not to mention systems, protective gear, and labor.

Do note the department of HHS has recommended a reduced amount of flouride not to long ago. .8 ppm now

Part of this is probably due to the hazards it presents to the water operators at the plant when any maintenance is performed with fluoride systems. Fluoride can kill you. It's nasty to deal with.

no, fluoride they use is an extremely hazardous waste-product from industrial proceses they dont know what to do or how to dispose of otherwise.

This is the REAL truth. It is not fluoride they are putting in water. It is industrial waste from the phosphate industry.

Wait... you don't actually drink tap water, do you?

Put a filter on your shower head, or, as another poster suggested, move to a more rural area where you can have a well.

water seeps into your skin during showers?

Do you end up heavier afterwards?

valid question

I do but my state doesn't fluoridate

"Tap" water is one of the many ways modern society has been revolutionized for the better. People who don't know a lot about the history of sanitation as well as people who are afraid of the very air they breath need to grow a backbone and learn to live life without being afraid of everything because some stranger told them incorrect information distorting the fucking facts about whats bad and whats not bad for them. The big bad boogie man is infecting us with fluoride to make us stupid? Give me a break.. there is extensive documented evidence that proves areas that live in poverty without fluoridated water are at extreme risk of dental problems. Just because you live in a modernized area where you don't have to worry about shit like that.. the fact that you take that shit for granted is seriously inconsiderate to the people who don't. Add that to the laundry list of shit people in your position take for granted in modernized societies.. Unless you live in an area that's been at risk or contaminated infrastructure like Flint you have nothing to fear from the water drink. And its time for the rant...... Go ahead drink your Voss water. Drink your fucking pelegrino filtered crap if it makes you feel better about yourself. Don't mind all the other toxins around you, fuck fluoride in particular right? /rant

So fluoride is good for your teeth but has no secondary effect on anything else in your body? Do you think the people at the top of the so called pyramid drink fluoride water? I know for a FACT they won't. When Queen Elizabeth II visited my city, she would very specifically only drink a specific type of water. I wonder why that it. And lastly, the government doesn't give a flying fuck about your teeth!

Many elite people like to indulge themselves in luxuries. Doesn't mean they avoid them for THAT reason. Just like when a pop star will only drink Pepsi and refuses to drink any other type of soda. It's just pretentious behavior and its to be expected. Its not a FACT that they won't. You don't know why they choose not to you are just assuming that because it fits your narrative.

I see you've conveniently ducked my first question,which was the main point, but you chose the weakest argument instead.

If you're fine with drinking flouride, by all means, give er. I will choose to remove that nasty neurotoxin from my diet!

Never mind that people inhale toxic gases at every campfire, petrol station and in their garage when painting stuff, fluride is evil!!1!

Jokes on you. The only time tap water reaches my body is after the ice has been purified by the vodka.

it doesn't work that way -- youd need a still in your house to purify the water before turning it to ice.

putting ice cubes in vodka only makes it vodka with fluoridated water in it.

I'm thinking the joke went right over your head lol

It happens every single time haha.

the joke is hes an alcoholic and a purist ?

No, he forgot his S/

Yeah it's really cheap and easy for you to never drink that right now.

so uh... do that.

yeah it's cheap and easy to get rid of most of that too.
or all of it for more $$.

I did. But not because of fluoride. But everything else.
But the fluoride is gone too.

How'd you remove it all?

A shower filter will not remove all the fluoride. Some, but not all.

frequent showers are unhealthy anyway. it eradicates and prevents the development of natural microherd of the skin. those guys are our allies.

Just distill it.

Yeah. Just drink distilled water. Great idea.

I sure hope that's not sarcasm. Pure steam distilled water is the most pure water you can drink: nothing in it but water. There is disinformation around saying you can't drink it, which is pure nonsense. Flouride will still be in anything else you drink, though, like juice, soda, etc. so you'll need to increase iodine intake to counteract it.

Skeptics of distilled water claim that because it's largely void of minerals and salts that it will suck out your cells' salts by reverse osmosis.

Do you have any reliable sources? I would love to see them.

My source is myself, as I get gallons of it and drink it daily and get plenty of minerals and salts from my diet, often concomitant with the water. It's my opinion that there is disinformation and fear mongering about drinking pure water it in order to keep people drinking their poisoned fluoride tap water. It's pH balanced 7.0, tastes like nothing at all but basic essential water, better than any bottled water I've tasted. The gallons are cheap but I might get a distiller to make my own steam water. Don't fear it, try it for yourself.

Thank you, I will consider this.

i also did this with an affordable airstill. and distilled water tastes sweet compared to tap water.

a good source of natural homemade iodine is quartered green walnuts. i soak them in some alcohol for a few months out in the summer sun with some spices (vanila, cloves, orange zest etc), then i filter and mix in some of the neighbours honey.

i did it for six-seven years and only used celtic salts when i was worried, like you, for a year

but if you think about it, if you drink it, it goes into your stomach and mixes with all the stuff thats already there. at that moment it stops being pure, so even if there is any truth to your theory it wont matter. even the saliva will 'contaminate' any pure water the moment its in your mouth.

i also mixed kombucha and wines with it most of the time. its a non-issue.

Nah. Not getting vitamins is an issue.

what do you mean, there are no vitamins in tap water either..

Minerals, fruit pie. Minerals.
It's all liquor, Rand. And it's all hard

Don't drink tap water!

Everything is a chemical and appropriate at the correct dosage.

So what's the solution for showers?

dont have showers!

But we should be able to.

Get out of the city. Buy some property with a private well.

You're actually jumping through hoops in order to get the poison in my eyes.

It's not possible for everyone to do that.

Taking measures to protect ones self is important. But what about everyone else? We need them to not be stupid as well or we'll still end up in idiocracy.

If avoiding fluoride was the secret to living in an idiot free world...

Every little bit helps.

The 'run away' idea is self defeating. Help everyone out of the hole, then you have everyone to march beside with.

It isn't a run away idea at all.

It's a "do something for your damn self" idea.

If you want to go fast, go alone, if you want to go far, go together. A man alone in this world is nothing. Doing for just for yourself is drinking water and assuming all of your other countrymen will never thirst again. Work together.

LOL so don't make change that maybe is contagious and more change can occur.

Stay and fight!

I don't want to go far or fast I want to go Home.

Your statements seem conflicting and cowardly.

That's a big statement coming from someone I have never met.

Its been known for some wells to have extremely high ppm of naturally occuring fluoride, believe it or not.

There are shower filters available.

You can install a whole house filter to clean the water right as it enters the house, clean tap, showers, everything. Pricey though.

How much would that be to have it installed in your home

To free your house of all fluoride water costs about $1,500- $3,000 and the filters last for a few years and cost about $400-$600 to replace.

Works out to fractions of a penny per gallon, well worth it.

Not drinking poison is expensive

Link sources on one's you recommend?

I use one that i got at my local food co-op. The brand is "Enviro Products"

Thanks

Awesome, thank you very much going to buy one. This one says it's for chlorine--did you get a specific fluoride one?

I was at the dentist last week and they don’t call it “fluoride” anymore. They call it “varnish” or “vitamins” because apparently they do now vitamins and other cleaning agents. But it still has fluoride! Wonder how many people don’t think twice anymore because it sounds healthy.

That's really sad. I'm weary of anything they push on us so damn hard, like fluoride treatments and flu shots. It should be considered poisoning.

I bitched out the dentist for calling it vitamins. I forced him to admit that calling it vitamins is a lie. He admitted it's actually a nuerotoxin, not a vitamin.

I'm sure your dentist called fluoride a neurotoxin. 🙄

So that SOME of us can think better...for some others there is no hope 😂

I agree man, this is some serious bullshit. Ive written numerous letters to the water treatment plant, as well as my city and have never received a response from them. The treat facility obviously gets alot of complaints because their website has a big section about why fluoridated water is good for me and my teeth (like they give AF).

So I guess I have to take matters into my own hands. Time to install a reverse osmosis machine in my home. IDGAF how much it costs.

airstill? it wont provide enough for showers, but who showers anyway :-)

Not too sure yet, haven't started researching what I need yet. If I have to put some extra filtration in, I will. I may have to increase my iodine consumption as well to bala everything out.

RO doesn't get fluoride, but several RO sets have an option for a fluoride filter.

Lol good luck with that. It’s not like we’re getting poisoned because our government doesn’t know these things are harmful. Nothing to do but buy water filters and buy organic food. Vote with your money

The HHS lowered to suggested ppm from I think 1.2 to .8. I don't know if all municipalities have got the memo. It was quietly changed because they can't do a full 180 because fluoridation was rated the number 1 medical discovery everywhere. PR and legal nightmare.

Also interesting connection to the department of energy and enriching uranium back in the day. They needed it to be healthy enough to not be sued by people enriching uranium.

They claimed they lowered it because of majority of kids in the us were showing signs of dental flourosis.

According to the new recommendations the update was made, in part, to address an increasing prevalence of dental fluorosis (a staining of teeth linked to fluoride intake), in young people.

In the Harvard article it goes on to say they recommend lowering it even more because the effect it can have on minds looool.

But hey if you question any of this, you lack basic cognitive reasoning skills.

It says in part fluorosis. What are the other parts?

Source?

There is aspartame in nearly all chewing gums, also.

Try to find a major label stick chewing gum without "Phenylketonurics: Contains Phenylalanine" in very fine print...

I use well water and I'm still pretty dumb.

its the f in your toothpaste!

Fluoride in the water is still the #1 conspiracy theory I believe in.

Not necessarily for what OP believes in (thought altering), but the fact that the government puts it in our water in the first place.

But the idea that my "teeth" are so important to the state.

You guys drink water?!

Like from a toilet?!

Electrolytes>fluoride

hahahaha best comment! Brawndo's got what plants crave, it got electrolytes! I never seen no plants growin outa no toilet xD

Reverse osmosis removes fluoride, get a triple stage filter, sediment, charcoal and reverse osmosis to remove nearly everything from water including plastic particles which are infesting us all.

They arent that expensive and are cheaper to run in the long run than the cheaper upfront options.

i used for years an airstill, all it takes is a single button press, with auto-off, will do five liters at a time and thats plenty for cooking and drinking for a person for a day or two. after a decade of non stop use it needed just the silicone gascet replaced because i also made booze with it

there was always a disgusting, smelly, brown sludge sticked to the bottom. now my water is not fluoridated any more and the leftover is just a little bit of whitish powder without smell. because of that i stopped using it.

anyway, its a safer solution than ro filters.

Buy a $77 distiller on amazon. Get a showerhead that filters fluoride. Get non fluoride toothpaste. I have been fluoride free since 2008 and think better than everyone I know.

If you really want to have clean water, get RO purifier THEN distill it. Water is very pure and clean. I do that and its the best thing i ever done. I do spring water when not at home, but when at home, i use this water method.

Grew up drinking well water for 18 years. Now I live in a city and drink tap water everyday. I've noticed no difference.

Do you have any sources that indicate the level of fluoride in our water system is harmful to cognition?

As in, "I think I need to make a dentist appointment."

whoa, a little wacky in here this morning.

I think you don't even know what GMO means.

The "GMOs are bad omg" FUD is false. There are thousands of papers that show the advantages of GMOs.

Ok, the whole world is against you.

Study showing HEAVY METAL CONTAMINATION in fluoride samples used for water treatment. It is by and far way under regulated. They don't test every batch of fluoride they get.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4090869/

When I was in elementary school they made us swish fluoride in our mouths to help with cavities. I don't remember even having to have a parent sign permission for it.

The water Truckee Meadows water district of Reno Nevada does fluoridate the water.

Well yes... obviously

it doesn't work that way -- youd need a still in your house to purify the water before turning it to ice.

putting ice cubes in vodka only makes it vodka with fluoridated water in it.

Your statements seem conflicting and cowardly.