See this is the problem with falling to deep into the conspiracy rabbit hole. People get so wrapped up in their theories that they begin to distrust any source that presents a challenges to their narrative. They start to lose faith in mainstream reporting, and begin to only trust the most fringe sources of informed. However these sources eventually get proven wrong (like this latest 4chan LARP) and then people start to even doubt fringe media.
What I suggest is to get your information from as many sources as possible and weigh their validity against common sense, known facts, and confirmation of mulitple sources. Also I think it's important to be skeptical of conspiracies. Some are certainly real, and eventually get proven true (i.e gulf of Tonkin) but some are just not real, and I think it's important to recognize that.
you are either seriously being impartial or lying on the internet. do air strikes on terrorist camps sound familiar? the guy said they had their "share" of validity. and that's true. maybe try googling other terms or your memory restored
¯_(ツ)_/¯ Not about to triforce for you, my dude. I'm not doubting that they've done stuff. Because they absolutely have collectively. I'm doubting that anything serious has ever been leaked there. The terrorist thing wasn't "leaked," if you know the story...That was just collective thinking, which is what it's good at.
If all the places to post anonymous information, I hardly think 4chan is the place to go.
"Sure lemme just post this information about all your political enemies going to jail soon on 4chan inbetween the posts with racial and political slurs.
I sometimes wonder how we would be if our governments were straight up with us. "Oh hey we are doing x because of y" and it's actually their strategic thinking. Instead we get obfuscations, half truths and outright lies.
Not to mention the decline of sites like Reddit where "/politics" bans articles from our most trusted news sources, while putting out literal paid propaganda to unsuspecting readers. It's turned truth on its head and led to so much of the situation we're in.
That started right around when everyone suddenly "had to have" twitter etc and you started seeing social media integration with MSM websites.
I've been here a long time. It's nice to see a more diverse set of voices but depressing to see how many of them get drowned out / which ones get amplified
Heh, i mean theyre about par for all other information sources, partisan hype machines, major networks... Just this last year of watching has made that abundantly clear ;)
Does anyone really take it seriously though? These are only popular because they are fun little imagination rabbit holes and we are starved of good fiction.
I think the most you can take from it all is there are a lot of people who want shit to change. This stuff eases some of the pressure by giving people hope that something is going to change but at some point it is going to boil over. People can only take so many false promises.
I mean, if you read the comments on the larger threads when they pop up, its pretty clear a lot of people do take them seriously. Or they are good at pretending to show that.
Technically it said November 4 (actionable) on Pedo-esta. Is it horse shit....probably, but I stopped watching football recently so I got plenty of time for horseshit.....Especially if that horse shits golden pennies:)
At this point, it's like a new art form. It's performance art, in a way, with the extra frisson that just maybe it could be a real insider. It's as if we all get to participate in a real-world fantasy - what a Disney movie is to a 12-year-old, this LARP is to conspiracy.
Honestly, say what you like, but I do believe that a real or fake LARP on 4chan -> reddit -> twitter/FB is, at this time in history, one of the fastest ways to get a story embedded into a large chunk of the population. We've followed this for 48 hours or so - aaand MSM is picking it up.
Not to mention the decline of sites like Reddit where "/politics" bans articles from our most trusted news sources, while putting out literal paid propaganda to unsuspecting readers. It's turned truth on its head and led to so much of the situation we're in.
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1 armchairCueB 2017-11-03
Because people want to be told what to do so badly, they will listen to anything.
1 SketchTeno 2017-11-03
Grew up mormon; can confirm.
1 oxfouzer 2017-11-03
I'm giving it the weekend before I write it off as a LARP...
1 Bunsbunsbunsbuns777 2017-11-03
There's nothing "credible" anymore. Who not 4 chan? Why not tea leaves? Who not the neighbors dog?
1 Redditor_of_Rivia 2017-11-03
Why not Zoidberg?
1 SketchTeno 2017-11-03
Please leave that bitch out of it! Not her fault the neighbors leave her chained up outside! ;)
1 DEEP_SEA_MAX 2017-11-03
See this is the problem with falling to deep into the conspiracy rabbit hole. People get so wrapped up in their theories that they begin to distrust any source that presents a challenges to their narrative. They start to lose faith in mainstream reporting, and begin to only trust the most fringe sources of informed. However these sources eventually get proven wrong (like this latest 4chan LARP) and then people start to even doubt fringe media.
What I suggest is to get your information from as many sources as possible and weigh their validity against common sense, known facts, and confirmation of mulitple sources. Also I think it's important to be skeptical of conspiracies. Some are certainly real, and eventually get proven true (i.e gulf of Tonkin) but some are just not real, and I think it's important to recognize that.
1 CivilianConsumer 2017-11-03
Well, Wikileaks has so far been 100% accurate
1 no1113 2017-11-03
Because it seems that sometimes they've had their share of validity.
That's why.
1 spityateeeth 2017-11-03
No. They haven't. This is coming from someone who's lurked there since 2003.
1 TXROADWARRIOR 2017-11-03
then you're being impartial
1 spityateeeth 2017-11-03
Got any proof? Because even simple Google searches don't turn much up.
1 TXROADWARRIOR 2017-11-03
ive been here since 2003
you are either seriously being impartial or lying on the internet. do air strikes on terrorist camps sound familiar? the guy said they had their "share" of validity. and that's true. maybe try googling other terms or your memory restored
1 spityateeeth 2017-11-03
¯_(ツ)_/¯ Not about to triforce for you, my dude. I'm not doubting that they've done stuff. Because they absolutely have collectively. I'm doubting that anything serious has ever been leaked there. The terrorist thing wasn't "leaked," if you know the story...That was just collective thinking, which is what it's good at.
1 no1113 2017-11-03
k. Guess you've already got your mind made up then.
1 spityateeeth 2017-11-03
Movie scripts and Pokemon spoilers don't count, my dude.
1 no1113 2017-11-03
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7amss2/why_do_we_still_look_atstudy_4chan_posts_as_if/dpb7y90/
1 SketchTeno 2017-11-03
Same reason still listen to major network news after all their hype, speculation, larps and failures?
1 CrazyCommunistBernie 2017-11-03
If all the places to post anonymous information, I hardly think 4chan is the place to go.
"Sure lemme just post this information about all your political enemies going to jail soon on 4chan inbetween the posts with racial and political slurs.
1 Interpillar 2017-11-03
he is one of us, so he must be right! maga
1 187ninjuh 2017-11-03
I think everyone, myself included, are just grasping at anything that makes sense of the decline and Fall of western hegemony.
Plus this latest is really compelling. They're usually pretty poorly composed, but the LARPs this month have been awesome.
1 spityateeeth 2017-11-03
Very, very fair.
1 187ninjuh 2017-11-03
I sometimes wonder how we would be if our governments were straight up with us. "Oh hey we are doing x because of y" and it's actually their strategic thinking. Instead we get obfuscations, half truths and outright lies.
What does a transparent society look like?
1 ElJefe_Covfefe 2017-11-03
Agreed. Completely
1 BallP 2017-11-03
Not to mention the decline of sites like Reddit where "/politics" bans articles from our most trusted news sources, while putting out literal paid propaganda to unsuspecting readers. It's turned truth on its head and led to so much of the situation we're in.
1 187ninjuh 2017-11-03
That started right around when everyone suddenly "had to have" twitter etc and you started seeing social media integration with MSM websites.
I've been here a long time. It's nice to see a more diverse set of voices but depressing to see how many of them get drowned out / which ones get amplified
1 DavieBPrime 2017-11-03
Where does one find these lasted 4chan posts you are talking about?
1 birdman5000 2017-11-03
because they're not a monolithic cohort, and it's a popular board that a non-normie spectrum of information passes through.
1 rougekhmero 2017-11-03
Pretty sure the Vegas 'crime scene' photos leaked to 4Chan and we're even legitimized by the LVPD
1 SketchTeno 2017-11-03
Heh, i mean theyre about par for all other information sources, partisan hype machines, major networks... Just this last year of watching has made that abundantly clear ;)
1 spityateeeth 2017-11-03
Heard. Ha.
1 futhersake 2017-11-03
Does anyone really take it seriously though? These are only popular because they are fun little imagination rabbit holes and we are starved of good fiction.
I think the most you can take from it all is there are a lot of people who want shit to change. This stuff eases some of the pressure by giving people hope that something is going to change but at some point it is going to boil over. People can only take so many false promises.
1 ibtar 2017-11-03
people over on 4chan seem to. /pol/ is a very weird (and very different from what it used to be) place right now.
1 moparornocar 2017-11-03
I mean, if you read the comments on the larger threads when they pop up, its pretty clear a lot of people do take them seriously. Or they are good at pretending to show that.
1 Lo0seR 2017-11-03
Strange this /submit now, huge going's on right now.
1 Ninjakick666 2017-11-03
LARPception... They LARP on 4chan then cross post it here and LARP in the comments... It's like a more down and dirty TMOR.
1 no_easy-way 2017-11-03
I think 4chan adds some 'spice' to the mix. How much 'truth' can we really confirm? What can be validated as REAL? Not the MSM.
1 Benderateapoopenny 2017-11-03
Technically it said November 4 (actionable) on Pedo-esta. Is it horse shit....probably, but I stopped watching football recently so I got plenty of time for horseshit.....Especially if that horse shits golden pennies:)
1 torkarl 2017-11-03
At this point, it's like a new art form. It's performance art, in a way, with the extra frisson that just maybe it could be a real insider. It's as if we all get to participate in a real-world fantasy - what a Disney movie is to a 12-year-old, this LARP is to conspiracy.
Honestly, say what you like, but I do believe that a real or fake LARP on 4chan -> reddit -> twitter/FB is, at this time in history, one of the fastest ways to get a story embedded into a large chunk of the population. We've followed this for 48 hours or so - aaand MSM is picking it up.
1 Interpillar 2017-11-03
the_dump users are grasping for straws, isn't it obv?
1 spityateeeth 2017-11-03
Very, very fair.
1 ElJefe_Covfefe 2017-11-03
Agreed. Completely
1 BallP 2017-11-03
Not to mention the decline of sites like Reddit where "/politics" bans articles from our most trusted news sources, while putting out literal paid propaganda to unsuspecting readers. It's turned truth on its head and led to so much of the situation we're in.
1 DavieBPrime 2017-11-03
Where does one find these lasted 4chan posts you are talking about?