but they seem legit

How? Seriously, in what world do those "rumors," which btw were started by the "Q clearance" LARP from 4chan that made specific predictions that have already failed to happen, seem legit?

Saudis are draining their swamp!

or purging political opponents in an authoritarian crackdown.

so what does this have to do with the "q clearance" fanfic from 4chan or the POTUS' twitter account?

Murdering his rivals for the throne is the traditional first act for a king.

3D or 5D.

3D - This is a power move. Nothing has changed. Blood will continue to spill.

5D - Things are different. Arrests are taking places. The elite are collapsing.

Who's right? Who's wrong? Or are they both right?

What elite? The incoming King is literally the richest, most powerful person in Saudi Arabia. He's simply purging other rich people he sees as a threat.

The cabal.

DJT drained it already with his trip last year, with Qatar, etc, and the weapons sales.

No doubt all of the money these "princes" had were being used for more than driving their land cruisers on two wheels, not to mention hookers and gin....

MAGA

Make Arabia Great Again !?

I lol'd

Make Arabia Glass Already !?

JK is back in US and had dinner with Ivanka for her B-day.

Duh

When you're married to a woman like that, you don't forget her birthday.

Very good point.

Theres smoke and probably fire here, Trump tweeted that Aramco the SA oil public float would be done through NY.

They have been flirting with China and Russia for Oil trade.

Let's hope its a something burger.

Trump squeezing the dopey princes ... LEGALLY! :D

It’s just about the new king being pro Israel and removing the old leadership

They even arrested bin ladens brother. ..

Meanwhile, at FOX News, the debate about what kind of burger it is rages on... https://i.imgur.com/olDujZL.jpg

Why is the cheese under the meat wtf...

The yellow obscures too much of the brown that way. Racism>?

It should all surface soon.

What should surface soon? Another LARP from 4chan, after you all forget about the "Q clearance" fanfic that was spammed all over this sub for the last week?

The info.

You know.

Turds. They sink to the bottom but some surface? Why is that?

You can't explain that. The tide goes in and out.

Turd goes up turd goes down.

High fat content.

Density. Objects that have more density than its surrounding fluid sink and objects that have less float.

A Twitter employee deleted his account on their last day. It was back up in 10 minutes. Shame it is but not a big deal.

that the "official story"

It could be law enforcement downloading his direct messages as part of the investigation.

I doubt Twitter would have to turn his account off for that.

Who knows I do know I would not want to be a target of the team that's been assembled. They have the best lawyers in the country, and that's just the people we know about.

if you still haven't realized that Trump isn't the target of the special counsel being led by Mueller, you might have brain damage.

I find it interesting that some of his most ardent supporters grew up when we had leaded gasoline.

Damn, you can tell a good joke but not read between the lines. Impressive!

Yes I misread your isn't as an is. Ohh well in the end let's both hope the truth wins out.

Hold your breath, please.

The sad thing is I bet you thought that was clever.

Wouldn't they have a direct backdoor with the NSA?

It's not the NSA doing the investigation it's the FBI.

Thats so silly you probably need professional therapy.

Lol

That's what they are telling you at least

Please tell me you don’t buy that.

It's Twitter. I couldn't give 2 fucks.

Personally, I don't do twitter, but it is DJT's main voice. It is a big deal if 40+ million followers lose their only source of info outside of MSM

For 10 minutes? Nah, I have had data center circuits go down longer than that. It's sad that our president has to resort to some BS like twitter to get his message out. What does that say about our other means of communications?

its pretty clearly says that him or anyone else would rather get their message out unfiltered without it being taken out of context by the media

You mean he doesn't like people asking him hard questions, it's easier to lie on twitter

What do you mean? Donald has been in the spotlight from day 1. Whether he sends a tweet or does an interview, it doesn't make much of a difference to the level of scrutiny he is held to. Its easier to lie as in...somebody vocally responding to you and calling bullshit? As opposed to calling bullshit on a tweet?

I mean he literally does not like people questioning the false reality he creates for himself. When you live in a fantasy land, questions from outsiders can quickly shed light on the delusion. On twitter however, there is no immediate and unavoidable follow up like there is in real life, and the stream of consciousness that is his twitter feed can fabricate whatever reality he wants.

It is a big deal if 40+ million followers lose their only source of info outside of MSM

Only? You forgetting about something? Like...oh I don't know.

The fucking white house communications department?

So talking heads can tell us what he said.

You do know that they release statements themselves, right?

It's like a Tweet, but longer, and sometimes done as a recorded video.

If not having access to Twitter cuts a person off from Trump than the problem is with that person's miniscule attention span which is the size of 140 characters.

No, I did not know that I had access to such things without news media interference. Do tell.

In case you aren't be obnoxiously sarcastic...here you go:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-and-releases

I'm really no, I don't read that (a) I don't want my IP attracting attention, (b) that's not Trump speaking, that's his ear flappers.

Those are his official statements which he approves. Are you saying Trump is so inept he doesn't even have control over the WH press team?

As for tracking your IP...what the do you think happens every time you look at Twitter?

I'm not going to get accused of attempting anything scary to the state by going to Twitter.

I don't care if he approves them. It's all filtered. As you know by the game of Telephone, he said to he said to he said = not what the original person said.

So no I am not saying he's inept. I'm saying human communication is very, very hard and I'd rather hear everything without filtering.

I'm not going to get accused of attempting anything scary to the state by going to Twitter.

Hate to break it to you, but you going to Twitter and looking at posts is as traceable as going to the official white house press release page. There is literally no difference.

So no I am not saying he's inept. I'm saying human communication is very, very hard and I'd rather hear everything without filtering.

No, you are saying he is inept. This is the WH communication department we are talking about. Trump is THE direct boss of the WH communication director. Everything they release is either a) directly signed off by Trump of b) not at which point he should be putting someone in that position that will communicate his words.

It can't be both ways. The WH press releases cannot be filtered or not representative of Trump's positions AND also what he approves of otherwise he wouldn't approve it.

Your arguments are insufferable. I'm not going to be trolled any further. Try to smile today. It will make life easier for those around you.

Lol, says the guy that thinks the government is tracking whether he goes on whitehouse.gov or not.

u/lightbringerflex, may I add the Saudi billionaire bit to my post? That is damn sure relevant.

What post? What’s going on? I got out for one hour and all hell is breaking loose.

Here ya go buddy

This is all so crazy. Thank you!

MANDALAY BAY not Bellagio. Best to correct your post, please.

Texas!

Ahahahaha

Astros!

What a scam. But I guess Houston needed a win

So the world series is a conspiracy too huh?

Sports being rigged and corrupt is an old one.

Excerpt for the 2001 Yankees, I guess...

Hey I’m from Arizona! I know what happened that year. Don’t forget!

Wasnt there something about the Saints after Katrina?

Yeah, they won the super bowl.

Sorry, I think this was just a shitpost:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7antt0/is_it_a_coincidence_that_after_katrina_struck_new/

Actually I didn’t even see that post. I was going off memory and was wrong. Pitt won in 05-06. NO started 13 or 14-0 the year after Katrina though.

Actually I didn’t even see that post. I was going off of memory and was wrong. Pitt won’t 05-06. NO started 13 or 14-0 the year after Katrina though I believe. And yes...that was a shit post.

Sorry, I think this was just a shitpost:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7antt0/is_it_a_coincidence_that_after_katrina_struck_new/

GRIDLOCK!

Earn history!!!

Hey fuck you. Don't you people have a flood to be dealing with

LET'S GO STROS

Fight!

No nevada

Yeah, the new king is arresting a lot of the backers of the old king

I would think you would be against this situation since he is arresting a lot of the hardcore anti Israel leadership.

The new king is openly pro Israel and is making the country more liberal, that’s where a lot of this conflict is based on

Kushner is there as part of a peace plan for Israel- the new king is planning to recognize and normalize relations and take a leadership role in the two state solution

The old king literally created the PLO and was it’s too funded

I am very sure about the current and old king, I worked in Saudi Arabia before going to china- this is about his new liberal policy’s on Israel and in the kingdom, but also for expanding the war in Yemen

First of you are most likely VOTL, that’s been passed around here for awhile

Second, who cares what he says he is a larp- google some fucking facts about the new king and old king

The new economic policy in Saudi Arabia is a big deal, it was going to cause shake ups

As if he doesn't make it obvious that he is votl.

Thank you!

There is literally a comment right above this one saying you at VOTL from another person

Don’t put this just on me

Read the thread

W/e you say

Wtf is VOTL?:

For reals... I want to know, too. Voice Of...?

Ty

This claim that evil people are purging good people doesn’t seem to fit

You mean it doesn't fit with your baseless view of what is happening here? Of course not. It fits with reality, however. Also, why do you care if one of the majority shareholders of the Four Seasons is arrested?

Citation needed

evil people are purging good people

If only things were that black and white...

These are people with a lot of power who act to protect and consolidate this power. What does good and evil have to do with this or much of anything in politics?

They couch their actions in these Manichean terms to create narratives to justify their actions to those of us down here below, but do those narratives have anything to do with what they're actually doing?

Is r/conspiracy more anti-Isreal or anti-Iran? From reading around here, I understand Mossad plays a heavy hand in a lot of American policy. But do we disregard Iran's ties to Al Qaeda?

http://nypost.com/2017/11/02/what-team-obama-didnt-want-you-to-know-about-the-al-qaeda-iran-alliance/

Most people here are anti Jew first and foremost

They blame Jews for everything- look up the Khazar thing

So if Iran is anti Jew then they are good, if North Korea said its anti Jew they are good- it’s really that binary

I think you have 4chan's pol mixed up.

Khazars khazars khazars

You are an extremely unpleasant person to attempt to have a discussion with.

Oh, I am sorry for bringing up what this sub actually advocates

Does it bother you that a vast majority of this sub thinks Jews are a secret crypto cult of literal child eating vampires?

I mean, you are the one try to wake the sheeple up about Jewish control

Some piece of shit goes to a party and spends the evening being completely stupid and obnoxious. Then he - it will be a he - goes home and complains that there was a completely stupid and obnoxious piece of shit at the party.

That's you in this sub.

Not a party

I am on this sub

And I am bringing up shit it considered more then fact- khazars are doctrine here

If you feel offended by it say so

I mean, you are the one try to wake the sheeple up about Jewish control

No I'm not. This is what I'm talking about. You're just being a dick.

Actually most people here are anti-zionists first and foremost. And also anti-neocon.

So you don’t believe in the khazars?

Most of the intelligent posters realize that only a small percentage of (fake) Jews are the ones in power. Hating all Jews is a trick used by the elite.

Yup, you don’t hate Jews, just those Jews on double secret probation

Got it

Nice try.

Nice try?

I am bringing up this subs favorite conspiracies

Don’t say them if you don’t believe them

This isn't /pol/.

Yeah, tell it to the Kalegri white genocide guys I keep getting texts from

Yes, it is

Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan

Jews were kicked out of every country? Why?

We're anti-"people trying to run the whole world" by and large. I doubt many really care what religion they are.

Khazars? Do you believe or not?

What are Khazars? I just youtube searched and watched a guy named Duke and some other guy say the Khazar story is being pushed by jews and it is untrue. Do you think jews are making shit up so they can feel more persecuted? Like some kind of masochistic victim behavior. Have jews ever made up stories so they could feel more persecuted? Weird it's almost cultural.

anti-zionist is not anti-jew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPndQGImVMc

So khazars? Yes or no

Of the few members of Israel's current population that are of any sort of real Jewish background, most of them are descendants of the Khazar king's unfortunate decision to adopt Judaism as his state religion.

Of the few members of Israel's current population that are of any sort of real Jewish background, most of them are descendants of the Khazar king's unfortunate decision to adopt Judaism as his state religion.

Link/source reading for this?

I read "The Thirteenth Tribe: The Khazar Empire and its Heritage" by Arthur Koestler, and this is also mentioned in Edward Gibbon's 7 Volume "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" which I have also read.

And this we descend to the truth- jews are not even jews- they are a buzzard secret cult of vampire Kong’s who must subject the world to their evil plans!

Ready the sacrifice table!!!

Do persecution fantasies make you hot?

I don't understand that thinking, and it makes me question every time people here pin everything on Mossad. Just seems like if we want to find the truth, we should probably start with a baseline of objectivity.

I agree, it’s bad thinking

Only imbiciles conflate

• completely valid criticism of Israel and the crazed fucking zionists

with

• criticism of the Jews. Fuck, devout Jews hate Israel as much as we do.

So you DONT think all the Jews who are mad at Israel are just a psyop to further the khazars?

The Jews who hate Israel happen to be human beings who hate Israel.

yea good to make that distinction for edgy teens tho

I can't speak for everybody hear, but I am not anti-Iran. As far as I know Iran has never invaded anyone, especially not the US. So why would I be anti-Iran?

I am not pro or anti Israel, either. I do have more complex opinions on the situation but thy hooks suffice for your question.

I agree somewhat about Iran. Similar to Gaddafi, Mossadegh was taken out after threatening to nationalize his resources. I believe Iran would've had a much brighter future without the interference of US and UK in 1953. However, I cannot excuse Iran funding and arming Al Qaeda. And though Iran may have never directly invaded a country, they have certainly supported other countries in proxy wars. Also, the ongoing feud between Shia and Sunnis have cause a lot of bloodshed throughout the years, dragging other oil-hungry countries in the mess along the way. Iran is just as culpable in this as Saudi Arabia, in my opinion.

However, I cannot excuse Iran funding and arming Al Qaeda

What's your source/explanation for this assertion? Iran is a Shia theocracy. Al-Qaeda is a militant Sunni organisation that views the Shia as apostates.

Documents released in past few days show that the Iranoians cooperated with some al-Quaida elements in Iraq in the aftermath of the US invasion. Some people then make the assertion Iran = al-quaida terrorists.

I wonder what that makes the US?

...the US funds Al Qaeda. Hell, US senators have funded al-Qaeda. Publicly.

God, I'm anti-Israel. It's a disgusting, violent cancer.

I'm anti anyone that calls for the destruction of my country and funds terrorism. Whether it's the deep state or Iran

I'm also against countries that teach tech like the explosively formed penetrator that then kills my friend

If a country has ties to Al Qaeda it means they have ties to the US. And to me this makes sense because the US might on the face be "anti Iran" (or at least not pro Iran), but America has been selling them uranium for their reactors for a few years now. That's part of what this scandal is going to unveil: the US has been arming "its enemies" for the sake of their own pockets at the expense of national security for some time. Al Qaeda is little more than the mercenary army of the CIA, which is a rogue actor unto itself. But if the CIA wants to distance itself from leaving subsequent fingerprints, this is what Al Qaeda/ISIS/Boko Haram/Taliban/Hezbollah/ terror group du jour is for. In this particular case, Al Qaida and Hezbollah did the arms and uranium deals on behalf of the US and played the middle man. Probably went something like, US State Dept > CIA > Al Qaida > Hezbollah > Iran.

This scandal is just now starting to percolate but insiders have known about this real issue for some time. In fact, George Webb has been covering it for over a year now even for us average Joes.

Funny you should say that. I've just recently gotten heavily into George Webb and Thomas Paine. Their investigative work has been incredible. Would you say that the US is potentially changing its ways recently about feeding groups like Al Qaeda and Hezbollah? Trump is decidedly pro-Isreal, and it sounds like this new Saudi regime will skew pro-Isreal as well. Doesn't seem to make sense that Trump would allow groups like Al Qaeda to continue being supported. We've already seen ISIS take huge hits since the election. I'm not trying to push a pro-Trump agenda here- I'm just curious what his angle is here. We know the Obama Administration was funneling everything to Iran, through Russia. Now with the Deep State fighting hard against Trump, with even the Bushes coming out against him- would it be safe to guess Trump is not following the neocon playbook?

I think it's too soon to say what Trump's angle is, though I'm pretty sure he was no hand-selected candidate of the deep state like so many before him. Presidents are just figure heads; they could probably get the deep state to heel, but it comes with the risk of getting off'd. Along the same train of thought, controlling Al Qaeda and other such groups means controlling the alphabets. I think for a very long time, these entities have been far more powerful than the president. Administrations come and go, but the people behind the military industrial complex are accountable to nobody and operate outside of the law making them far worse adversaries.

My hope? He's just trying to prevent operation gladio from succeeding on American soil. He wants to scale back the drug, trafficking and arms ops to something resembling sanity. The current situation is increasingly untenable: the US can't arm its enemies to the teeth, create insurgencies everywhere, bankrupt the country while becoming filthy rich through black ops, and then expect this desiccated corpse to keep functioning full steam ahead. Maybe he sees Terrorism Inc as bankrupting itself and wants not to expel it from business entirely but at least balance it out.

Anyway, as to allying itself with Israel, I do believe whoever said that the US has to pick one ally: Israel or Saudi Arabia. You can't piss off both without expecting them to team up and annihilate the US. Trump is clearly choosing to pick apart SA.

Excellent analysis! A friend just me this Twitter thread. It's clearly from a pro-Trump source, but I wonder if it's accurate. Also, #31 seem to show proof of Podesta involvement, no? Anyway, it seems to tie into what we're discussing.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Imperator_Rex3/status/926967878942736384

Looks pretty accurate to me, from how I understand the situation. Thanks for the feed. And yes, Podesta hopefully will get caught in this sweep.

I don't trust the NYPost.

As far as I can tell, there is a giant international collection of bankers that would love to destroy Iran.

Iranian people shout "death to America." One reason for this is that the CIA in the 1950s overthrew their democratically elected leader.

Iran is one of the last countries on Earth without a central bank

My understanding is the whole "Death to [ fill in the blank]" is a coloquialism. If you are condemning anything, taxes, park meters, etc. you can use the phrase. But it plays well on American TV for riling up the rubes. If a native Farsi speaker wants to weigh in, please do.

There are no Iran ties to al Qaeda. That's called propaganda, like in the 2000s when they tried to convince us that saddam had ties to al Qaeda. The people with ties to al Qaeda are the pentagon and CIA.

This is the correct answer.

Seriously, al Qaeda is Sunni/Wahabi and Iran is Shia.

The difference between Sunni and Shia is like the difference between Catholics and Protestants. And what you are saying is like saying "What about the connection between Southern Baptists and the Pope? Are they in league? Are we going to ignore the ties between them?" Which is so laughable it's ROTL funny.

If you are a sheep, you are making the same bonehead mistake that screwed up Iraq so badly: not knowing the difference between the two and confusing who's allied to which! The US government people running operations in Iraq were that clueless.

Of course, you could be a Neocon troll. Neocons are pushing to put 9-11 onto Iran which makes no sense. See above.

The new king is actually the crown prince, Salman has dementia.

Four seasons at Mandalay bay.

Mandalay bay is an area. Four seasons is a hotel.

How does the nuclear plant deal between Russia and the Saudi king inked Friday play into this?

Prime Minister of Lebanon has also resigned, 'fearing for his life'. Where was he when he announced this? Saudi Arabia.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/lebanon-prime-minister-saad-hariri-resignation-resigns-quits-future-movement-surprise-latest-a8037266.html

what the fuck

Seriously.

I read this post and all of the comments but I'm still thoroughly confused. Is there a coup happening? Is Saudi Arabia cleaning itself of evil politicians?

I wouldn't say evil, just those with differing opinions than the current leadership. Look for a clamp down on whabism and closer ties to isreal along with more proxy wars with Iran. This is great news for isreal and a mixed bag for the U.S..

Mostly great news for us, too. These are the elements that fund the fundamentalist imams that call for violent jihad.

America is too used to Islamic Terrorism now. It fails to scare us into submission like it used to, so they're turning down funding to it.

The new boogyman is the old boogyman of Russian Spies. I would put money on that being the next "extremist group" our government starts attacking while simultaneously funding.

Hopefully, but their interests are not always our interests. I am curious how the different terror organization s they have been funding will react.i think we can expect anything from a few years of large terror attacks in the kingdom all the way to a civil war. I gaurentee Iran and Russia will be pushing for the later.

You're confused because this sub is painting theses events as something complicated when in fact they're very simple: the King-to-be is arresting anyone he deems a rival or a threat. It's something that's happened throughout history when monarchies change hands.

To be fair, it's also something that happens when the US covertly subverts an opposing government with lots of oil or other natural resources. I think this situation is a lot more nuanced and not as simple as your describing it. No harm in being thorough.

Bingo.

Scrabble.

Ooh, that one's my favorite! I made a mortal enemy of my ex mother-in-law by soundly stomping her ass at scrabble. I didn't know she was such a sore loser.

That'd be a pretty good way to find out, methinks.

Sure was, heh! ;)

You find out the true nature of people playing those “family” games. Good stuff!

Yahtzee!

This dude knows what’s up

Thank you.

Kinda like Stalin?

Yes, maybe not to that scale, but a purge none the less.

the King-to-be is arresting anyone he deems a rival or a threat.

And scaring the shit out of anyone who was even thinking of siding up against him. But I do think he picked his targets for some big reason.

Iirc... Isnt this king to be the guy who said enough is enough to the extremist version of islam?

Honestly, I was wondering if Al Waleed was progressive. He has women employees, he pushed for allowing women to drive. But I don't know a whole bunch about this.

When Monarchies have actual power behind the throne succession can be pretty bloody.

This fits right in with the New King getting rid of a lot of the old Kings puppet leaders- the prime minister of Lebanon was involved in moving Saudi money to Hezbollah, money is being cut off since new king is pro Israel

I thought the prime minister of Lebanon was anti-Hezbollah?

He claimed to be, but wiki leaks showed he was a stooge

The new Saudi Arabia King is pro-Israel?

The new Saudi king is pro-himself.

The Trudeau of SA?

Yes, he has flown on el al, he has met with Israeli leadership and the meetings with Kushner have been about Israel

It’s major pivot

It’s major pivot

ಠ~ಠ

The previous king CREATED the plo! He was the father of the Palestinian movement

This is a different guy- different situation

Please god let this be peace in Middle East.

I dont think there will ever be peace in the middle east not while Israel is allowed to stay there at least.

we could just relocate Israel to like Boca Raton

Or Antarctica

or maybe mexican cartel country. see how those settlements go there

Exactly, behead them😆

Fuck then and kill them? Right

I think of it more as "picking on someone your own size/equipped with equal firepower"

thats a little extreme. its more that as bullies, they might be faced with a little bit more resistance than they are used to

Cute backpedal

not really

Yup, kill the Jews! Great idea

Fuck off

Obviously sarcasm in response to the anti Semitic stuff above

Idiot

Why not Madagascar?

I'm alright with this.

we could just relocate Israel to like Boca Raton del Boca vista

ftfy

Have you been to Boca Raton, that already happened.

Can't do that because that would deny Israel their mystical bullshit holy land. P.S. I think everyone claiming it as their mystical bullshit holy land is lame, not just Israel.

Good idea they "own" us anyway.

The job is already half done.

we could just relocate Israel to like Boca Raton

Seriously. I blame the British.

I say this all the time!!! Just not Boca Raton. But that sounds as good a place as any!

Oh, that's the winter location.

it depends on the radical wahhabi elements. If the peaceful less radical sect has more power, then there's hope. But if it stays radical wahhabi, these are the bad dudes spreading terrorist based teaching and genociding Yemen

You nailed it.

The power and their money will dictate whether or not there's peace.

Pull the funding and, magically, there's less ability to conduct violent actions.

Pull the funding and, magically, there's less ability to conduct violent actions.

S.A. is still fucked. They lost billions because of low oil prices, U.S. relying on them less, more natural gas, etc.

They are like a rabid dog cornered right now looking to do anything to regain those lost billions and their power. They are also making deals with Russia and China, whoever is the highest bidder, so its pure chaos there right now. But Kushner being there I'm sure is because of the USD being a petro dollar, he's making deals so the dollar doesnt crash yet and more time can be bought.

Crazy fucking times man. I Still think N.K gets attacked soon, this will raise oil prices globally by proxy making S.A. a ton of money, it makes the evil greedy M.I.C. happy, and it will restructure the the power positions in the area. If U.S. gets to set a base(s) in N.K. then thats a massive extra F.U. to Russia and business opps too

Yeah man, too much wahabi on anything is never a good thing IMO. I put extra on my prawn sushi the other day and made it inedible.

There won't be peace while muslims live there

I think it's more like the Zionists to be honest.

You mean the people who bought their property and then kept territory they won during the war?

There won't be peace, while usa brings their "democracy" to this part of the world.

Stop exporting and sponsoring terrorism then we can call off the freedom delivery

Aside from Syria it’s not to bad, I mean the Kurds want independence but they are khazars too

If I my we could have a system to kill the Jews! To bad the lady model was fake and made by Jews for sympathy

Jews should have been given Greenland after WW2 instead of Israel.

And piss off the Vikings? F that.

LMFAO!

It would have turned into Scorched Earthland soon after.

Lmao Israel will be part of the reason there's peace in the Middle East eventually. Don't be a silly sally.

The removal of Israel would merely eliminate the region’s current scapegoat. Scapegoats play a role in holding anxious systems (regions, in this case) together. They’re like the keystone in a stone arch.

It's not even Israel. More often than not, Israel is simply used as an excuse or a pawn in the greater regional conflict in the Middle East. The real problem are the Suni vs Shia tensions.

Israel's problem could potentially be solved by ousting Netanyahu and getting someone in favor of a two state solution in place who actually intends to follow any treaty made. The extreme divide of suni and shia has been present centuries longer than Israel was even a concept, and would cause tensions to erupt regardless of the presence of Israel or not.

If we really want peace in the middle east, more countries need secular governments installed, or sunis and shiites need to sit down with a marriage counselor.

I find that hard to believe from what I've read as jews, suni, shia and christians all lived in somewhat harmony before the state of Israel was created. Of course there would have always been some type of conflict but the real problems began when the state of Israel was created imo.

How about when the goatfuckers leave the Middle Ages, and stop blowing themselves up

I’ll even take a decrease in tensions.

War = negative energy. That's what the archons want. There will never be peace as we never focus on our shadow rulers but their puppets.

There are no archons, go home you are drunk

Prove that to me please.

Show me a pic or video of an archon using its powers?

No?

Ok not real

Well for starters they operate in another dimension. We have whistleblowers from Nasa talking about aliens and Spacecraft at Lockheed and Boeing, spacecrafts making rings around saturn and uranus. From MK ULTRA talking about the archons and reptilians and holographic universe.

Huge amount of scripture from ancient civilization talking about their hack. The moon being up there without any real science to back it's existence up.

A system in our world so well coordinated that would be impossible to run by only simple humans.

People talking about the hack then getting murdered.

Satan(saturn) worshipers in our governments. Pedophile as well harvesting energy from kids. The great pyramids..

And so on... Like you have to be pretty ignorant to not understand this by know..

You realize when you call them archons you're saying they own you.

They're nothing but evil.

Yupp.. 😥

They can lick my asshole. I'm anti evil.

Yeah. But did you know the eagle is a symbol of em?

did you know the eagle is a symbol of em?

no it isn't.

Look it up friend. You see eagles in US government all the time mate.

What is your point?

Nah actually there was none. Just noticed your name and to be fair I still think it's a great one.

Lol thanks it's a pretty great name isn't it.

Yeah fits you great since you are aware of it all.

Yeah it's not always such a great thing though.

Ye.. No shit.

Israel doesn't want peace so there will never be peace in the Middle East.

Powerful forces don’t want peace so they gave Israel back to the Jews after WW2. They should have been given Greenland.

I'm surprised people here still push the "Israel is the problem!" narrative.

Israel will stay Israel. People butthurt over this fact need to get over it and stop blowing shit up.

But it won't stop, it's supposed to happen.

Zechariah 9:6-8 King James Version (KJV)

6 And a bastard shall dwell in Ashdod, and I will cut off the pride of the Philistines.

This here shows that old enemy that the actual Israelite's had many encounters with would toil the soil of Israel for a while and when the time was appointed, the fake Jews (Edom, Jacobs wicked twin brother) would try to assume that power in the land of Israel’s

Hence God cut off the pride of the Philistines by bringing them to nothing but in a matter of time, the land of Israel will be judged as well. The book tells us by Russia in fact (Ezekiel 38 KJV).

So we are actually right on schedule, just waiting for this economic collapse and the mark of beast (RFID chip) to be presented to the people.

Why should they have been given anything? That's the problem. The rest of the world has been tricked into thinking that Israel is entitled to something. They aren't.

Nah, it's just because they lied.

When God comes back to take the real Israelite's back, every eye shall see it which is according to prophecy. We will all understand like whoa, that must be God in the sky.

It won't be a commercial airline ticket that's for sure.

What?

Nah, it's just because they lied.

When God comes back to take the real Israelite's back, every eye shall see it which is according to prophecy. We will all understand like whoa, that must be God in the sky.

It won't be a commercial airline ticket that's for sure.

Prophecy has to take place, if you actually believe in the Bible.

Therein lies the absurdity.

Explain your point.

Except the Jews never called Greenland their ancestral homeland..

Everyone understands that. Let’s take the religion out of it. BTW, they could make pilgrimage visits....

European Jews long ago moved(or have no lineage) to the people who lived in Israel when the state of Israel was recreated.

I’m using Greenland as an example. New Zealand would be as good a choice.

The point is that a newly created nation of refugees shouldn’t be stuffed in among the people who hate them next most.

Out of the fire, into the frying pan.

Out of the fire, into the frying pan.

Yes, I agree with that sentiment. It was a pretty transparent attempt by the US to gain a foothold in the ME. The US used Churchill's old adage of "never letting a good crises go to waste" excellently here.

Greenland wouldn't have satisfied the Zionist agenda of rebuilding Solomon's temple and ushering in armageddon though. You need Jewish control of Jerusalem to do that.

And yes, this theory sounds absolutely batshit, but there are actual people in government that not only believe this, are looking forward to it because they think they'll get raptured. One of these people is Mike Pence.

They would be genociding the natives there too...it's part of the peace process.

Perfect sub for this worldview

God doesn't want peace. His prophesies must be fulfilled. I could write for hours showing you all of the prophesies which have been fulfilled so far. But I won't, ain't got the time. I will tell you this;

The next prophesy to be fulfilled is the rapture. Then 7 yrs of tribulation, 3.5 good, 3.5 bad...very bad.

Russia, Iran and Turkey, according to the Bible, will be the primary antagonists versus Israel. They and the smaller Arab countries that join them will be wiped out. This is according to God and which is in the Bible which has so far been proven that those prophesies that could be thoroughly researched have come true exactly as stated by God. Time is almost here.

Time is almost here. Religious people have only been saying that for a couple thousand years.

“I could give evidence to support my claims, but I won’t. Instead I’ll just make baseless assertions and continue to ramble out word salad about my holy book.”

Same Israel that destabilized Syria in the first place? Yeh

The Bible was written to be a self fulfilling prophecy. If the Bible didn't exist...humankind would not be helplessly acting out their own doom.

God doesn't want peace.

I don't know what god you worship but it's not my God who wants peace. And besides, I said that Israel doesn't want peace.

And please spare me all of your "knowledge". I was once like you, a born and bred Baptist. I have come to the conclusion that it's bullshit.

Nope. Israel-First.

America first, Israel second.

America first, Israel second, asshole Uzbekistan... last.

For sure not. All is pointing to more escalations against Iran. US/Israel/SA alliance, as before.

Esp. the conspicuous rocket attack from Yemen (Houthi rebels = Iran backed) against Riyadh, which according to Zerohedge was being caught being fired from near Riyadh airport.

Nobody likes Iran. That's like liking North Korea. I don't see the bad in this.

Nonsense. Almost everybody likes Iran. Just Americans are brainwashed.

Evidence pls

Everything happening has a too-good-to-be-true ring to it.
It's making me uneasy.

Peace? Now they will go full force on Iran and Syria.

Um, you're not understanding something, Israel and Saudi are defacto allies against Iran. This is not a major change or anything.

Unmmmm, no. You’re missing something.

The engine of middle eastern conflict has been fueled by dirty money every time.

Oil.

Opium.

War profiteering.

That could only have been possible if there were a shady agreement between “Allies”.

U joking me? We are directly finding a genocide in Yemen. Peace? That’s a joke.

anything to do with Israel

peace

Not a snowball’s chance in hell

The Israeli - Saudi alliance has been well known for some years now. This seems more like they are making the relationship stronger and more public

W/e helps you when you are watching your child porn you tub videos get off

Facts are facts

I was gonna say that too. Hardly a "major pivit". Saudi has long been on board with Israel.

Kushner confirmed as anti-Christ

Sorry for being dumb, but how would Saudis being Pro-Israel be any pivot? I thought they were allies all along.

Greater Israel Project

See- delicious classic Jew hate on this sub

Lots of comments keep trying to say you don’t exist- bless your Jew hating hart

He didnt even say anything bad. Not a bad thing to keep an eye on the jews.

Let’s keep an eye on whites, always a good idea!

See? Sounds stupid

But if you hate Jews sounds awesome

Nah, no hate. Watch Israel is more like it.

See- delicious classic Jew hate on this sub

you're missing the point. There are nationalists groups all over the world who day shady shit to forward their own progress at all costs, all over the world, including japan, china, russia, and, drum roll please.......Israel as well.

In this case, if you looked at some statistics about jews in power over the banking system, media, and hollywood, its a really massive disproportionate amount of jews in these positions in power.

Does that make me a jew hater? Nope, I have jewish and half jewish friends, some of who are struggling check to check. But I am a special interest group hater. If there are Zionist Jews that really do meet and plot against the world for their own benefit, then we should all be against them at all cost

Yes it does make you a Jew hater

David Duke has a lot of black friends, he goes on tv with them, he is still a fucking racist

Jews don’t plot the destruction of the world unless you are a Jew hater

Yes it does make you a Jew hater

Actually it doesn't. I have e actually sat with Jews and had this debate with a ton fuck of articles, statistics, books, etc to support this theory. And to hear their rebuttals, which were basically hash tag not all Jews (so they were at least right about that)

Jews don’t plot the destruction of the world unless you are a Jew hater

You don't it get, you lack my context. I've actually been to Jerusalem and know first hand the mentality of the people there. Some of them want the Palestinians genocides completely. Think about that.

If there are any groups, and there are, Chinese, Jewish, Russian, Saudi, etc that have united in order to take over banking, real estate, media, businesses etc in order to progress their own group at the same or the people that it hurts and they look down and anyone who is not from their background, then I am against that.

If that makes u think that I hate Jews, Saudis, Chinese, Russians, Muslims, etc, then that's your assumption and problem, not mine

Wow some Jews in a war are dicks! That’s all the proof I need that they are in fact Khazars with a plan for white genocide!

My god it’s so obvious! What the hell was I thinking!

I am sure you are sitting right now explaining how a secret cabal of crypto Chinese are replacing white peoples!

It’s the exact same!!!

Meh, not worth it to reply besides having to get you to read 5-8 books in tandem for full context. It won't happen. At the very least u can start here

http://i.imgur.com/vt2gXqn.jpg

Then some stats

http://i.imgur.com/vt2gXqn.jpg

Then here

http://i.imgur.com/vt2gXqn.jpg

https://np.reddit.com/r/DebateAltRight/comments/6fvo25/please_explain_to_indians_east_asians_as_to_why/diliq55/

Let me know if you have rebuttals for those statistics. I just want to look at facts and stats, because numbers aren't racist or bigoted

Quick rebuttal

Your cites use the cultur of critique and the elders of Zion as sources

So yawn

Yup no rebuttal therem. I asked for stats.

Also if you're gonna rebuttal culture of critique, feel free to do so with facts instead of "omg anti-Semite".

I'm part of my uni's debate club and the head professors are discussing whether we even go back into this, this year because of all the alt-left snowflake PC feelings, unfortunately. I think everything should be debated in transparency and if you can rebuttal any of these, seriously I'm all ears and will read it all

Can't argue with JIDF. Everything fffgggtttyyy said are logical fallacies. Don't feed the trolls. They don't get that the mere existence of JIDF is enough to hate Zionists- let alone the facts of their existence. Source: ethnically Jew.

Source: ethnically Jew.

Awesome. Glad you exist because I have friends also who are ethical jews and want a united world, equality, and not having any single groups from anywhere in the world plotting against the people.

I don't see the word "Jew" anywhere in his/her comment. Why do you equate a theory regarding Israel and America's disastrous foreign policy with hatred for Jews?

I said Jew because that’s what you want to say

Jews run the world- but you don’t have the minerals to say that, so it (((globalization))) and (((Zionists)))

You are so pc bro

That's a completely different topic. You're all over the place man.

Yes, 100% Jews are disproportionately powerful all over the world, and they play a huge role in globalization. Do you think I'm an antisemite now too?

I said Jew because that’s what you want to say

Jews run the world- but you don’t have the minerals to say that, so it (((globalization))) and (((Zionists)))

You are putting words into his mouth to pick a fight. Hang it up dude. That shit is a tired, old hat.

What the hell ever, guy. No one in this whole world should be above scrutiny, not even Jewish people. There are corrupt individuals in every group, and it is not automatically anti-Semitic to call out bad ones who happen to be Jewish. All the corrupt, at every level, in every country and on every side, all deserve to have the light shone on them.

So yes? The khazars rule is and we need to adress that Jewish Question!

We must be free!!

yawn

Yawn

Actually discussing killing Jews is dull

Greater Israel Project

You mean greater Khazaria?

Yup, not one Jew hater in the bunch

Greater Israel Project

That’s it. Zionists are making a huge move. Explains the anti-Saudi talking points from infowars.

Saudi royal family is crypto jews.. this is a coup by Americans, before today both Israel and Saudi was british puppets.

next up is Israel

Yes, it is part of a huge push they have been doing to westernize Saudi Arabia, and secularize the country.

Not that surprising really. Saudi Arabia is most consistently anti-Iran, due to religious differences. If they're looking to make a military push at Iran, it would make sense to find allies - Israel being a good one to have. It would also strengthen ties to the Pro-Israel US government, helping to drag us into any regional conflict they decide to start against Iran.

As pro-israel as a Saudi king could be.

The most interesting detail to me is the arrest of Al Waleed Bin Talal. He's the investment coordinator for the entire Saudi royal family and their oil money. He turns up in WEIRD shit all over the planet - he used to own a stake in Fox News fr'instance. He was a bit player in the prosecution of Don Seigelman. God knows what else. Generally seen as pro-US publicly but reality? Who knows.

He's a major player on the world stage.

He was against the new liberal investors policy

Owns trumps old yacht. Spent 100mil on a vacation recently. Runs orphanages....

orphanages....................

Orphanages they always run orphanages. Perhaps this is the start of pizzagate exposure- these people turned p a lot in the PG investigations

perhaps

Much easier way to get children...

He is basically the successor of Adnan Khashoggi

No wonder Fox isn't headlining this on their mobile news site.

When he came down on Bitcoin a week ago, I knew he was bad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5CBh7IrxEk

All kings of Saudi Arabia are proisrael.

What the hell are you talking about the PM gave money to Hezbollah? They killed his father!

The war against Hezbollah has given Israel an excuse to bomb and invade their neighbours for quite a few year now. Kinda like Isis.

Nobody knows who killed his father..

Hezbollah is funded by Iran, not Saudis.

prime minister of Lebanon was involved in moving Saudi money to Hezbollah

any more info, please

"Lebanese security forces said they had no knowledge of any plot to kill the former leader."

When you apply for a grant from Alaweed philanthropies you can select either "global" or "lebanon"

They got orphanages too...

That's not really a big deal. I've seen websites have the option [My State] and [Rest of US]. They probably have different divisions of the company running business inside and outside of Lebanon where they're based.

Except Lebanon's Prime Minister just resigned....

Thats because his wife is Lebanese so a lot of his donations are directed to Lebanon

Soooo thats why the PM resigned? Hezbolah and his wifes donations... right

Are the ziocons making their move?

Al jazeera confirming high ministers from National Guard and economy fired.

the official Saudi news agency SPA reported that a new anti-corruption committee had been created by royal decree. Saudi-owned al-Arabiya added that at least 11 princes, four current ministers and several former ministers had been detained in an anti-corruption investigation.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/11/saudi-ministers-national-guard-economy-dismissed-171104190619900.html

Can the US please get a new anti-corruption committee created by royal...I mean, executive order?

Please fuck no. More government oversight is not what we need.

So corporate and oligarch oversight then?

The committee guys are ofc biased as fuck.

Ouff first Trump tries to damage the existing anti corruption organizations and then if he would create his own replacements it would basically be a corruption coup.

God Emperor = Divine Royal Decree

Why don't you just run for Congress since you have all the answers.

Basically a witch hunt against people who were not liked by the rulers.

Who ever wins was backed up by CIA; which is worse for the region.

What about the missile that has just been shot down over Riyadh?

False flag.

Also proof that our missile defense system works. MAD is dead let's glass the fucking world.

Whats the word there?

intercepting a IRBM =/= intercepting an ICBM. detection and velocity are much harder to deal with with an ICBM

But the trajectory of an ICBM is easier to predict. They go up, they fly, they come down.

Not necessarily, advanced ICBMs maneuver their trajectory in space after the first two stages get it over the atmosphere. This allows them to obscure their true target and make interception more difficult during the terminal phase. Furthermore warheads can use maneuverable fins to travel significant distances away from their target trajectory.

The Pershing II's RV weighed 1,400 lb (640 kg) and traveled at Mach 8. It was fitted with four control fins to perform a 25-G pull-up after reentering the atmosphere, then glided 30 nmi (35 mi; 56 km) to the target and pitched into a terminal dive.

thats some movie shit

Also there can be many warheads on a single icbm. Some will be decoys. Crazy shit.

It's also naive to think that MIRVs wouldn't be modified with at least a little stealth tech by now which would render most intercept tech worthless.

The quoted text is such a bad ass statement.

The Russians would overwhelm the missile shield. It would still be a bloodbath. And most likely both sides have better weapons than nukes now. It’s been 70 years

Hyper sonic multi-warhead ICBM's and MKV's are in the news for years that means they have much more powerful weapons on hand. They won't talk about or deploy most of the top tier tec until they absolutely have to for fear of the tec falling into enemy hands.

Unless it's just a rail gun and all you send them is a gigantic metal rod to study.

I disagree, chances are if we can guess at it then the political and military elite of the worlds civilisations (Russian, Chinese and Western) all know exactly what they're going up against.

Soon after Trump had a post election conversation with Obama he let slip about 'our high flying assets'. So I suspect one of the secret weapons is in space, hovering over Beijing or Moscow ready to annilate everything if required.

Boeing X-37

Obviously we have space carriers from solar warden just parked in planetary orbit

I wouldn't be surprised if laser cannon satellites existed by now.

Dude, we've had those at least since Spies Like Us.

What could possibly be better than nukes? Antimatter? That's still pretty fucking hard to make.

Rod of God for one. Let kinetic energy do all the work and avoid all that messy radioactivity.

Also called ODIN which is pretty metal

The missile shields just upped the cost of MAD. There was a chance for MAD to stop after it started if the parties agreed to it. It wouldn't have been pretty, but humans would survive. MAD today needs to launch hundreds of ICMBs which won't leave room for stopping.

I agree its great our tec works but no need to bully the world.

was that raytheon stuff?

It wasn’t intercepted there’s videos of people screaming and running from the flames

it was intercepted

According to a theocratic monarchy that beheads atheists and witches

Are you retarded? Intercepting something doesn't make it disappear. The pieces have to land somewhere. And they landed with minimal damage, no casualties from what I can tell, even though original intent was to hit a major airport. That is definitely "intercepted".

Fake AF, this video is from protests in kuwait back in 2014

the videos are old, I live in Riyadh it was intercepted you fucking imbecile

They shot a missile at another missile, it's not a disappear ray. Also does that username mean you're an Iranian? So probably shilling for them too?

Yes I’m Iranian because I used a twisted version of a fictional character invented by a German.

I thought it was a bastardization of Zarathustra, the God in the traditional Iranian religion Zoroastrianism.

Would an Iranian bastardize the name of their own god?

Anyway I’m a homosexual atheist so I’m definitely on Israel’s side when it comes to any Middle East discussions.

Yeah because most Iranians are either Muslim or closeted atheists, Zoroastrianism is a tiny minority that's a relic of their history.

What's the purpose?

Distraction and add tension.

Haha okay.

For real man. Some people in here have been putting way too much belief into ridiculous 4chan posts

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-middle-east-41872995

It was shot down.

It's been rumored that the government booked the Ritz Carlton to serve a detaining center for those VIP who are being arrested for corruption charges.

Research project.

What is the significance in terms of Saudi politics? Does this have potential to stick? If so, what are potential consequences? Who are the people arrested? What holdings do they have? Do we know at this point if these are the Saudi princes suspected involved with 9/11 funding?

Can we drag Q in here to LARP our way through the research for fun and learning?

It’s just the new king!

He is firing the hardliners from the previous king

No, this is the fruition of Trump's 32D Chinese Backgammon game to rid the U.S. of corruption and finally get the Israelis, those nefarious Jews, of which his son in law is one, but that's just something that Trump allowed so he could get inside the mind of a real life Jew.

This guy! He gets it

Swamp drained. We can all turn on the Kardashians now and live the good life.

and finally get the Israelis, those nefarious Jews, of which his son in law is one, but that's just something that Trump allowed so he could get inside the mind of a real life Jew.

Trump and most of his followers are extremely pro-jews and pro-Israel though

To understand the Saudis, you need to understand they are a puppet state of the Anglo-American-Israeli empire.

For many years, the Saudis have been patsies for the British Empire's Zionist goals in the Middle East. They are there to arm the terrorists that act as destabilization agents in the region, so that the London and New York bankers don't get blood on their suits:

"Al-Yamamah ("The Dove") was ostensibly an arms-for-oil barter deal, first brokered by then-Saudi Arabian Ambassador to the United States, Prince Bandar bin-Sultan, and then-British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. Under the cover of the arms-for-crude-oil deal, over the succeeding 28 years, hundreds of billions of dollars in cash have been squirreled into offshore bank accounts in such notorious havens as the British and Dutch Caribbean Islands, Switzerland, and Dubai.

Those funds have bankrolled nearly 30 years of global terrorism and coups d'état, dating back to late-1970s British and American sponsorship of the Afghan "mujahideen" which spawned al-Qaeda and every other Muslim Brotherhood offshoot now imposing a reign of terror across the entire Islamic world, and into Africa, Europe, and the Americas.

Beginning in the mid-1980s, Al-Yamamah slush funds bankrolled the Afghan "resistance," separatist wars in Africa, and the 1990s conflicts in the Balkans following the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. An honest and thorough investigation—yet to be accomplished—would all-but-certainly reveal that Al-Yamamah funds bankrolled the 9/11 terrorists."

You’re....such a moron

And you are a jew

Good detective work Sherlock

Removed. Rule 4.

Honestly it's pretty interesting that Q was bringing up SA up before this.

Probably still a LARP, but alongside the Twitter account stuff and JA's visit before this was even in the news raises an eyebrow for me.

From what I heard he was arrested for money laundering.

That Al-Waleed bin Talal guy looks like Fredo Corleone. No wonder he's getting wacked.

This have anything to do with Qanon on 4chan signing off his latest breadcrumbs with Godfather 3?

And now the Houthis just hit Ryjadh int'l airport with a ballistic missile .... apparenty intercepted, but the Houthis are celebrating it as a success

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/11/yemen-houthi-fire-missile-saudi-arabia-riyadh-171104180946302.html

Shit is going down fast in the middle east; this in the wake of King Salman's visit to Moscow (last month) and Putin's visit to Tehran (last week) and the upcoming APEC meeting (next week).

OR a new commitment from DJT's visit last year.

Am sure the play both sides. That's how you play the covert game.

lol how is that a success

The missile attack is just one of 100+ over the last few years. They have actually tried to overwhelm the Patriot system before, didn't work then.

Saudis are at war with the Houthis, there is no higher alert.

Trump is in Asia testing the waters on taking care of NK and the Saudi Yemen thing is getting more real which will be blamed on Iran. Draining the swamp of anyone who would work against the plan maybe.

What did Trump have to do with this? It's an incoming King purging his rivals as has happened in nearly every monarchy throughout history.

Kushner is part of the (deep state)

Now I've heard everything.

And he’s implanting his deep seed inside of Ivanka’s deep concavity on the reg. Spouting deep seeds, licking the deep cave of moist sensibility. Caressing the ample deep buttocks of her justice system. As she rides the deep ride. She screams. Bites corner of her lip. Looks into the sky and slowly moans while catching her breath, nipples hard as a pebble - Donald, Donald. My Donald.

...Now I’ve heard everything.

Now this is the type of larping I can get down with! Hahahaha!

I’d eat Ivanka’s sloppy diarrhea

Benjamin Fulford says the same thing.

Is this good for Trump or against Trump?

Who cares

against he had support from the old guard that helped him out a few times.

None of that matters. He is basically a huge distraction so that those who have real power can do whatever they like. It is hard to pay attention to anything g real when there is a dancing clown on the news ever day.

This is the start of something much bigger than we currently realize. They used targeted EMP strikes to disable these billionaire's fortress defenses.

Where are you getting this emp info from?

15h and no reply. Larp?

what

For many years, the Saudis have been patsies for the British Empire's Zionist goals in the Middle East. They are there to arm the terrorists that act as destabilization agents in the region, so that the London and New York bankers don't get blood on their suits:

"Al-Yamamah ("The Dove") was ostensibly an arms-for-oil barter deal, first brokered by then-Saudi Arabian Ambassador to the United States, Prince Bandar bin-Sultan, and then-British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. Under the cover of the arms-for-crude-oil deal, over the succeeding 28 years, hundreds of billions of dollars in cash have been squirreled into offshore bank accounts in such notorious havens as the British and Dutch Caribbean Islands, Switzerland, and Dubai.

Those funds have bankrolled nearly 30 years of global terrorism and coups d'état, dating back to late-1970s British and American sponsorship of the Afghan "mujahideen" which spawned al-Qaeda and every other Muslim Brotherhood offshoot now imposing a reign of terror across the entire Islamic world, and into Africa, Europe, and the Americas.

Beginning in the mid-1980s, Al-Yamamah slush funds bankrolled the Afghan "resistance," separatist wars in Africa, and the 1990s conflicts in the Balkans following the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. An honest and thorough investigation—yet to be accomplished—would all-but-certainly reveal that Al-Yamamah funds bankrolled the 9/11 terrorists."

You have given me some new things to look into that I have not yet before. Thanks for this post.

Consider the contradictions within that post. Apparently the Saudis are puppets that act on the behalf of pro-Israeli actors to...uh...conduct terrorist operations against Israel and Israeli supporters.

How in fuck does that make any sense unless you're just saying "The Jews control everything including the people trying to kill them!" at which point, well, uh...yeah...no.

US does the same thing and we get attacked here in the states as well. How the fuck does that not make sense to you?

I'm convinced the Bush Admin was involved heavily in 9/11, but I am still unconvinced that Israel had a prominent role. I find the dancing Israeli's to be strange but definitely not proof of any conspiratorial collusion. And sure we know Larry Silverstein is extremely Jewish but no evidence of any connection to Mossad.

US does the same thing and we get attacked here in the states as well. How the fuck does that not make sense to you?

You need like rudimentary 101 geopolitical knowledge to answer this question. Israel is already in a constant state of war. They could attack Saudi Arabia tomorrow, without provocation, and their population would be mobilized. The US population requires propaganda and false flag attacks in order to convince the public of it's need for war. Israel has no such need. The Israeli population doesn't need to be convinced that their neighbors hate them, want them destroyed and that they need a bigger military.

You say they don't need convincing, but the truth is they've been convinced since birth.

Yeah man no government would ever orchestrate an attack against its own people to further a political agenda, right?

Maybe Israel uses fear of terrorists to gain ever more control of their people in the same way that Western countries do.

How do people still believe that an ethnic group of 14 million people control the entire world? How fucking stupid do you have to be?

To be fair, white people are pretty weak mentally

Oh yeah, it's only white people, of course.

Well they're the only ones weak enough to feel threatened by the master race

Well then ya obviously don't know dick about the history of anti-antisemitism

Did I say anything about history, my dude?

We're talking about modern america here

GG

The British essentially ruled the world at one time from a small island in North West Europe as global minorities. Size of land or population means nothing

They fund terrorists that destabilise Israels adversaries. For example ISIS is being funded by the Saudis, and how many Israelis have they killed? None. How many muslims have they killed? thousands. Israel doesn't give a shit about islamic terrorsts, it cares about the Arab states that surround it and low and behold most of the troublesome ones have been taken out using their American stooges, and they've spent years trying to convince their american puppets to do the same to Iran.

Speaking the truth, gets downvoted. Lots of users from Virginia here today?

An early part of the foundation of Israel was jews dressed as arabs committing terrorist acts against jews, in order to shape political opinion. Why not outsource it to actual arabs friendly to Israeli goals?

Israel publicly hates Iran, but worked with them during Iran-Contra.

Then there's this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_Club

Does Kushner being there have any bearing on any of this, or just coincidence

Good questions.

It is safe to think of Kushner as Netanyahu himself. So you are basically asking what Netanyahu doing in Saudi Arabia? Which obviously is about Iran and Hezbollah. Most probably a conflict with Hezbollah is brewing.

Why would it be safe to equate Kushner and Netanyahu? Serious question.

It's the (((((implication)))))

Are we the tasty treats?

Kushner has zero foreign policy experience or education, still the most active one in that among Trump inner circle and especially in Middle East. I am willing to bet his foreign policy strategies are coming from the the facts that Bibi knew him since he was a kid and his family is a holocaust survivor. Until he explicitly spell out his Middle East vision, that he yet to do, I will have no better explanation.

He’ll be indicted in the next round of Mueller charges.

Probably not. !remindme 7 days

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He’ll be indicted in the next round of Mueller charges.

As not corrupt/connected to Russia, or as not an agent of Israel? Like, those are are separate things. He could be both, he could be neither...but just because Mueller overlooks him, doesn't mean shit about his connections to Israel.

Nope. Keep dreaming, sucka.

Yep, after Flynn and Flynn Jr.

Great question

Kushner was in Hawaii today headed to Japan.

You think that hedge fund boy has any real power? Lol.

Nothing is ever coincidence in this world.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

is it a coincidence that cigars smell so shitty and look like a turd?

I really want to like cigars, but it always tastes like a large herbivore dumped in my mouth after I some one

Maybe it’s not for you, however it could be that you’re smoking them too fast. When it burns hot it will not taste good! Try one puff a minute, this makes it much more enjoyable.

Bill Clinton probably put it into some girl's ass before

The only reason why Freud acknowledged this is cause he loved cigars, and didn't want the implication to be that he'd love some brown dick.

A blunt just a blunt

That's a completely false statement. Utter bullshit

Sorry you feel that way, but in this world there are no coincidences.

Unless it has to do with the Clintons.

Missle shot down? Anyone have a source?

Stopped reading at “Zionist”. You’re fucked in the head

Zionism is a thing

Yeh, I know I’m a Zionist. Brits and saudis hate Zionists

Brits and saudis hate Zionists

Then why did Britain create both Zionism and the State of Israel?

Lord Palmerston? Balfour Declaration? Is any of this sounding familiar?

And how do you explain the British installing a Jewish puppet state in Saudi Arabia, that helps Israel by fomenting terrorism with British weaponry from the Al Yamamah deal?

Wow you’re amazing. Britain did not create Israel, Israel has been around since 2000 BC, Britain just officially renamed it back. And Saudi Arabia is one of if not the most anti Semitic countries on earth.

Don’t believe everything you read on 4chan

Are you Brain dead. It's common knowledge Rome destroyed jewrusalum, probably for usury. And Israel was not the name of the state that existed 2000 years ago. Your a fake Zionist you don't know your own history.

Jewrusalum lol love it

You should be ashamed a rabbi would laugh at you for talking so much shit and claiming to be a Zionist.

I’m sure you’re the expert dude

Why don't you explain why the factual claims in the comment are wrong, instead of stooping to the same level and creating a culture of screeching at each other and making wise-ass remarks?

The destruction of Jerusalem occurred after a revolt in 70 AD. Frankly, I don't know if Jews at that time were charging usury or not.

I know it became much more common in the Middle Ages, as catholic canon law forbid Christians to charge each other interest entirely (not just usury, but any interest) which led to credit problems.

Nah the usury bit was just me being silly.

I'm not talking about the identity of the Jewish people, I'm talking about who was politically in control of the patch of land in the Middle East that became Israel. It was Britain.

Modern Zionism also originated in Britain:

"Palestine had been a necessary imperial target of acquisition for consolidation of the Empire for more than half a century before the Sykes-Picot agreements, dating back to the 1830s and the efforts of Lord Shaftsbury, a leading Tory politician, and Lord Palmerston, his stepfather-in-law. Palmerston served as Foreign Minister from 1830-51 and was destined to become prime minister and master of cultural and political warfare.

Shaftsbury was a Christian Zionist and British Israelite, who believed that the Jews must return to Zion before there could be a second coming of Christ. Although he opposed Jewish civil emancipation in England, and was indeed anti-Semitic, he believed it was Britain's destiny to establish Zion. Shaftesbury wrote: "though admittedly a stiff-necked, dark-hearted people, and sunk in moral degradation, obduracy, and ignorance of the Gospel, [the Jews] were not only worth of salvation but also vital to Christianity's hope of salvation." Shaftesbury's writings appeared in the The History of London Society for the Propagation of Christianity among the Jews. Shaftesbury was a member of the society and, in 1848, served as its president."

This isn't even an attempt to say Zionism, per se, is wrong, or that Israel should be dismantled. I'm simply saying that the Zionist movement was started by people with ulterior motives, namely creating chaos in the Middle East.

fuck off then.

Removed. Rule 4.

This relates a bit to the Safari Club, right? CIA basically realizing that congress would have control over their Intelligence activities, but if they found a way to have a black budget and then bank roll other intelligence services, they could get away with a lot.

... of course that's probably a monster with unintended consequences.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_Club

This relates a bit to the Safari Club, right?

Yes:

"in 1976, the Safari Club, a newly formed secret cabal of intelligence agencies (see September 1, 1976-Early 1980s), decides it needs a network of banks to help finance its intelligence operations. Saudi Intelligence Minister Kamal Adham is given the task. “With the official blessing of George H. W. Bush as the head of the CIA, Adham transformed a small Pakistani merchant bank, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), into a world-wide money-laundering machine, buying banks around the world to create the biggest clandestine money network in history...

Prince Turki al-Faisal, head of Saudi intelligence from 1979, will say in a 2002 speech in the US, “In 1976, after the Watergate matters took place here, your intelligence community was literally tied up by Congress. It could not do anything. It could not send spies, it could not write reports, and it could not pay money. In order to compensate for that, a group of countries got together in the hope of fighting Communism and established what was called the Safari Club. The Safari Club included France, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, and Iran.”

This is nothing more but consolidation of power.

Al Tuwaijri, formerly vice minister for economy and planning, had already played a key role in shaping Saudi economic and fiscal policy over the past year. Before joining the government in May 2016 he was Middle East chief executive for HSBC.

You don't recruit from HSBC if you're looking to limit money laundering and corruption.

Nothing more?

Or could that just be one slice of the pie?

Speculating in an open ended manor adds nothing of substance to the conversation

Open ended questions always add more than closed ended answers.

They are stabilizing internal affairs to get ready for an external conflict. Most probably with Hezbollah. Removal of Hariri is along the same line. The regional high level meetings show something big is happening.

They are already in yemen

Kushner is draining the swamp. What has this sub come to.

Israel first !

cant be true

Except evidence was provided ....

Between 9/11, the Syrian chemicals, all the Malaysia planes, and various independence referendums; its obvious the same usual gang of idiots are trying to get everyone fired up and jumping to conclusions.

Once again trying to rush us into war before anyone gets a chance to question whats happening or why.

All these princes and powerful people... Saudi Arabia is going to collapse in a chaotic power vacuum eventually when the king dies, and when it does it will drag the Middle East and a lot of the rest of the world down with it. This is how WWIII will play out.

Is Hell breaking loose? Or freezing over?

Just any FYI,

High Level Insider called this last year

You can read his other posts here

He didn't call anything. He said that regime change was going to happen in Saudi Arabia. Literally everyone knew that regime change was imminent in Saudi Arabia. What he did not do is predict the arrests of specific people, as is happening now.

What he did not do is predict the arrests of specific people, as is happening now.

But he could have fairly reliably predicted some sort of purge, because that's what happens when new leadership is installed.

Only place Ive seen this so far

wow

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/11/04/saudi-arabian-forces-intercept-missile-launched-from-yemen-reports-say.html

Saudi Intercepted a missile north-east of Riyadh.

Well this was timely; not saying connected, but needs to be looked into.

cool

Good shit. Keep spreading.

Can someone tell me what all of this is insinuating?

I feel as if this is all calculated, and the pedophilia will never be brought to light. Just new politicians with different motives.

The media can do magical things.

This is practically what I'm thinking: "we will leave if you let us leave with no repercussions. "

I agree...they are just simply shifting world powers.

More, consolidated and codified, and that submitting to them is the only way to get ahead in the world.

It's one or the other, but I'm fearing this end.

Kushner delivered the message about the coup attempt. It couldn't be done via normal methods due to people being compromised.

That's a great theory!! Very plausible. And most likely all of these princes involved w/ clinton and Huma. Maybe they were on Weiner's laptop???

Wow. Maybe

Can someone explain what this all means

Saudi deep state purge.

But I thought everyone was saying the new SA is pro Israel? Isn’t that just the opposite?

they are pro israel. he probably meant purging of no-longer-useful people.

Probably The crown prince’s 2030 plan to recover their economy from the last ten years of “depressed” oil prices must include nationalizing private wealth. These princes held the lion-share of the oil wealth. By doing this he recovers all of the money and puts it back into state coffers. This plus the kings deal that was signed with Putin to build 16 nuclear plants in SA are likely connected too. There is much fuckery afoot.

lol, deep state doesn't mean a uniform mass of jooo00 conspirators. Different groups are at play in Saudi power play, among them conservative clerics and traditionalist princes that are obstacles to MBS' goals.

Of course - there was a silent /s to that comment.

ah thank God. you never know these days.

So true

Or: new King arrests people he sees as a threat to his power.

I assume since Talweed or whatever his name is is involved in Twitter he also has people to AstroTurf for him too.

Any of these guys arrested make large donations to the Clinton Foundation?

I'd ask the same about donations to Trump, but it seems stupid to force a government to oust people who could implicate you. Just pisses them off.

Most likely all of them.

Looks like Trump was able to drain the Saudi swamp before he was able to drain the DC swamp...but the draining is ongoing!

Idk if he had anything to do with this but i would imagine it would be much easier to purge a kingdom then a republic. none of the your a nazi, no your a communist nonsense just straight to jail. also why they can be so dangerous.

IOW JK presented SA an offer they couldn't refuse: Clean house, or WH will expose SA role in US corruption and LV attack. All imo of course.

There were about a dozen princes arrested today.

18 I read.

damn man r/conspiracy is infiltrated. Prob longer then I thought. FUCK!

:D

:D

I never liked that guy in your gif file. He looks too much like Charles Whitman. Sorry.

ok

Hilarious to see the Trumpers first take:

"This is all Trumps doing! What a hero!"

You did it, you got em! Good job boy, have a pat on the head! Run along now!

Thanks for being on top of all of this stuff.

Ballistic missile was just shot down.

Anyone remember the talk of Huma being a spy for the Saudis? That the emails showed this and there is actual video of this?

I'm calling bullshit, my source? Chelsea.

I'm reading about more and more of the countries mentioned by Gen. Wesley Clark years ago.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

Prince Alwaleed: ""It just doesn't make sense. This thing is not regulated, it's not under control, it's not under the supervision" of any central bank, Alwaleed says." - gets arrested for money laundering

Politico says it's part of an anti-corruption sweep. I'm guessing there's a geo-political reason the msm wont talk about. Any insights? Was this undertaken on behalf of Western interests under the guise of anti-corruption?

Q Anon tipped us off about this before it happened. Is he a LARPer, a good guesser, or an insider?

Consolidation of cash at the highest levels is where this is going.

I'm fairly certain all these "anons" on 4chan that keep claiming shit are just doing it for the luls. It never amounts to nothing and as the days go by and nothing ever happens I'm actually starting to believe that there's no conspiracy at all.

It's more than that. Coordinated counter psyop.

Update: Anon claims princes are Podestas protectors so they had to go down to get Podesta.

Of course they are! I thought it was common knowledge that a Saudi oil sheik will literally die if they have to go more than one week without buggering a nine-year-old boy.

Well the princes protecting Podesta would make sense. Not like it isn't a global thing, but the sex slave trafficking adult and child alike business is prevalent all over the middle eastern countries. I remember reading more than a couple excerpts about of sex slaves being sent across premium plane routes either in military or middle eastern affiliated from across the world for princes, the ultra rich, and the elite especially in the areas when Hilary and her minions were making business deals.

On Reddit a downvote simply means you used the truth and it hit a nerve. We knew about the sex slave market to the middle east back in the 1970's. Probably before that but I first became aware of it in the 70's.

Im aware of that. I was just describing my frustration for the fact of just the simple downvote and no discussion.

I didn't mention the 1970's and the Cathy O'brien story Tranceformation of America, but I probably should have since she mentions Hilary Clinton and Bill Clinton (many others) as well in her horrible experiences in her early life, so that's a good point.

Thanks for replying back to my comment and my venting though. Have a good Sunday.

Smoke and mirrors. The Zionists still pulling the strings.

Lol

Moreover, Hassan Abedin worked with Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal on a project titled, “Spreading Islam to the West.”

Huma’s brother, Hassan Abedin

Where is Huma Abedin right now?

Where is Tony Podesta right now?

Where is Jon Podesta right now?

Where is Hillary Clinton right now?

Where is Barack Obama right now?

The storm.

Someone answer this man!

They can't

He said he's going to the gym... Should be right back.

wow, nice connecttion

That's crazy. Talal has his hands in everything.

The storm.

Looks like the Q is coming through.

Have an upvote for staying abreast. I want you on my team.

The Anti Trump prince that had a twitter war with Donald got arrested. Karma is a bitch

If these guys own the media it's no wonder the bullshit they try and force feed us

Anyone else just read the title and was happy

Drive them out!

Jesus, how much do you spend on tinfoil per month? You managed to conflate all these topics together. Podesta? Really?

Why would he need to make more than one tinfoil hat?

This guy ^... not wearing two tinfoil hat at one time, pshhh

Podesta is being connected to the Saudi Prince because of his holdings in Citigroup. John Podesta was on Obama’s transition team and gave Obama the list of names of people he would put in his cabinet. The list came from Citigroup. This was released last year in the WikiLeaks Podesta Files. Saudi Prince is major holder of Citigroup. Here is the email. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/57710

That doesn't mean much. These people have several holdings. I'm sure you can connect many Trump cabinet members the same way.

I believe that if the Podesta’s go down for anything it will be for the Podesta Group lobbying for Uranium One and Rosatom. The Podesta’s each got shares and millions of dollars for that deal. Bill Clinton benefitted as well as Hillary via donations to the Clinton Foundation.

The FBI was investigating that deal for a long time. CFISA hand to sign off but House Committee had written about concerns several times. I think Judicial Watch has the court filings stating concern about Uranium One deal and CFISA.

All I have to say is wow.....this is some major shit going down and there are those who are grabbing their bug out bags and are scared shitless. Please let this be the beginning of the end for these evil Fucks.

Good. Fuck all those backwards pieces of sub human rotten pieces of scummy shit

Pretty much the same kind of sub human rotten pieces of scum that ran this country for the last 8...no wait...16 years. Yeah fuck'em!

Get ready to buy aramco as fast as you can when its listed.

false flag against iran ... you will see.

They already started

They will have contacts who can bribe anyone they wish, so i'm not concerned for the billionare princes at all

I imagine you are right, but Talal getting arrested at all is pretty unprecedented to me.

Shout! Shout! Let it all out!

Draining the swamp lmfao!!! Wtf are you smoking op? It's just a saudi power struggle between rival princes. Asshole vs asshole with the current crown prince being probably the biggest asshole of them all.

How is the current one the biggest asshole?

For one thing he's the architect of the brutalization of Yemen. Dude is a spoiled, murderous thug.

I get that, but he doesn't strike me as the biggest. Seems pretty much the same as the rest of them. Maybe I'm being too nit-picky with your words mate, my bad.

No biggie, well I mean he's the big dog now, and he's getting rid of any contenders.

Seems the outspoken majority in this sub is pro-Israel all of a sudden, least we forgot who owns the hands of DNC and RNC, Israeli banker Jews. Sub has been compromised. The mods failed everyone. These trump nuts are bias conspirators with no ounce of critical thinking brain power.

True with Pro-Israel here but we don't know on Trump yet. He certainly is doing some good things - e.g. economy and locking up pedo's. Let's give it some time.

Tony Podesta and John Podesta were receiving money from Saudis and have been on their payroll since 2015. I am not a Trump supporter. The Prince tweeted to Trump that he had bailed him out of two bankruptcy. So I am certain Trump has benefited from him as well. https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/11779826

Crazy. Talal tweeted that at Trump? What is the story behind the bankruptcy?

Trump was born rich, (His dad stole money from the government for a housing scheme he never built) he lost his fortune twice, then begged wealthy financeers/bankers/his mates to lend him it all back.

Trump was born into a rich family. I heard that he got a million or two from pop and then created billions from that. Bankruptcy - normal to use that as a business tool.

Technically true, the best kind of true. Received a couple of million, eventually turned into a couple of billion.

skipped the parts where he lost it all, TWICE, and was gifted some/most of it back from 'bankers/friends'.

...but lets be fair, through whatever means, he's waaaaaaaaaay richer than I.

Still, if you can turn 2 million into 5 Billion (2500X), that is not done via luck nor does it involve stupidity. Like him or hate him, he has a high IQ, or is just business smart, call it what you will.

ps - Buy Bitcoin, don't listen to this guy. (funny coincidence, eh?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5CBh7IrxEk&t=1s

If he had put it in a blind hedge fund he'd have nearly twice as much I dont call that great.

The hard part of starting a successful business is the funding

The kids that say this type of shit have no idea how money or trading works.

Aside from the fact that it takes money to make money, Trump empoyed hundreds of thousands, payed tax and recovered from recessions while using his money.

The bankruptcies he files were closing out failing business and as such it required him paying the loans back in full as well as paying back those who reinvested PLUS interest.

This is how business works.

Also, please give me one example of a successful blind hedge with it's stats over a 30 year period. Unless your just quiting a Facebook article.

Well said.

He inherited over 100 million. That's what he converted into more money, not the 2 million

I'd like to see a link but let's say it is true. He went and turned it into an Empire and now is President.

He would have made more money by investing it in the Dow Jones

I put my money into Alphabet & Tesla... cus musk, and you can't buy SpaceX. (Unless you're alphabet).

I don't really understand 'cryptocurrency' enough to be confident enough to invest in it, I don't know much, but I do know that Elon is going to change the world, i want to be a part of it, for profit or loss.

Loss now that the subsidy is going to expire

Elon's business is failing. They can't meet orders and their huge government subsidy (for the rich mind you) was just cancelled. I think Crypto is waaaay less risky. Bitcoin up 10X this year, and will go up another 10X next year. Watch some Andreas Antonopolous videos on Youtube...

Wasn’t it 14 million with another 9 million dollar loan a few years later? Plus a trust of a million?

Maybe, but it wasn't what I had heard. Still some incredible returns if so.

It’s what was reported and not refuted by Trump. His actual wealth is tricky because we have not seen his real returns. His debt load is reportedly very high. His businesses that failed were with his own money and they resulted in bankruptcy and lots of paper losses (his loss carry forward right off for the last 20 years has been heavily reported on) in the 80s and 90s. The branding business is much better since he pays himself but takes little to no risk at the properties but it has put him under a lot of debt supposedly backed by Russia China and Middle East players (SA, UAE and Qatar).

Some have said that he would have more money if he just took the 20+ million and just invested in the market. So you could say he underperformed ...

I don't use wealth as a sign of success, and it is neither here nor there for me. You might say though that if intelligence chooses to operate via wealth, you can see it and I do see some of that.

I'm just happy that our country has what looks like a real person at the helm. (Though time will tell.) His best selling books on influence made me wonder if he had something up there (didn't read any, just the fact that he wrote them), along with his smack downs on the media, really gave me solace.

Collecting worthless inflated paper (via a corrupt stock market) is definitely not my idea of success. ps - Better get Bitcoin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5CBh7IrxEk&t=3s

Not convinced the Trump isn’t just more of the same. No doubt he has riled up s lot of jimmy’s but it just looks like power players on many different sides fighting for more power. They are all culpable and complicit imo.

I agree the the market is way over inflated and shits going to go down soon. Buckle up for sure but electron coins can easily be erased like anything else. I guess pump and dump is an option.

Well, I would bet he is being backed by some VERY powerful entity. Whether that being a faction of the deep state, a large military group, etc. You don't do what he did alone.

If the internet goes, I'm not worried about Bitcoin. We got bigger worries.

No doubt.

Please don't justify any bankruptcy.

Why? If you are a business owner and because of whatever circumstances it makes sense to go bankrupt, and it's legal, you'd be an idiot not do do it.

shhhh, don't bring logic into a conversation with an idiot

I agree however someone always loses in bankruptcy. Do yiu really want to praise sone one that went bankrupt like he's a winner give me a break

Most of the time the people that lose are the bankers financing said venture.

Lol yes I'd praise someone who made a wise business decision to go bankrupt instead of losing more money. You do realize it's a legitimate, legal action? Like how when people unable to pay bills go to debt consolidators. Or are those people bad too?

I'm been in business and investing for 25 years if your history includes a bankruptcy you losey respect period

I'm been in business and investing for 25 years if your history includes a bankruptcy you losey respect period

I'm been in business and investing for 25 years if your history includes a bankruptcy you losey respect period

Bankruptcy has been a right of every citizen as to not be imprisoned to the bankers and get a fresh start.

Agreed

Not true about bankruptcy. Trump has filed bankruptcy on 11 projects but still can borrow money from banks and creditors.

Do you know who can’t claim bankruptcy on a loan in the US? Students! College students can NEVER file bankruptcy on their student loans! How messed up is that?

Yeah, I know about the student loans. But don't confuse that crime with Trump. He didn't break any law and has already spoken out about the loopholes he has used re taxes.

He inherited over 100 million dollars plus the connections. He would be richer if he had only placed his money at the S&P index

He wouldn't have an Empire if he did that. And wouldn't be President.

He would if he wanted to. He got into the primaries by giving money practically to all candidates during decades

then begged wealthy financeers/bankers/his mates the Russian mafia to lend him it all back

FTFY

Why can't it be both?

Waleed is largest shareholder of Citigroup. Citigroup executive hand picked Obama's first term cabinet & ambassadors.

Wasn't it Citigroup who helped Greece to get in the EU by using derivatives to hide their debt? Another bank too I believe.

Yes, but that was a ploy to bankrupt Greece so the scavengers could take it over for a petance. Chelsea Clinton’s husband is stuck holding much of the debt incurred in Greece.

Marc, Chelsea’s husband, lost $25 million on a hedge fund he created on Greece. Only saw a 10% ROI https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/chelsea-clinton-foundation-marc-husband-230859

So what you're talking me is that we're watching a Lockheed Martin vs Citigroup turfwar?

Call it what it is...A gang fight.

I don’t know if it is a gang fight. Saudi Arabia is arresting Princes and high officials. Jared Kushner was just there in SA. The Prime Minister of Lebanon fly to SA and stepped down as PM there.

Personally I believe this has to do with calling in favors for Israel. Bibi doesn’t want anyone with connections to Hezbollah to be PM in Lebanon. Israel attacked Syria in the Golan Heights on Friday. And ISIS has been attacking the Christian’s in Damascus for the past 5 days. Turkey has military on their borders as Syrian army drives Al Qaeda and ISIS out of Idlib. Yemen shot a long range missile at Rydhia airport yesterday. And today a helicopter with another Saudi Prince and officials was shot down on Yemen border.

So if you figure it out let me know. I personally think CIA is playing whack a mole in the Middle East.

It should all surface soon.

If there's anything I've learned in 7 years on reddit, it's that this isn't going to happen. Soon is never.

just look worldnews, the 2 top posts are about

Well, they got him boys and girls

It’ll happen when y2k happens, but it sure is entertaining to watch the speculators.

Okay bud.

You'd have to conclude, with your hypothesis, that this is a completely internal event -- not just a "soft coup", but a full coup.

Just think of what you could have been.

There is nothing to suggest that Kushner is in Saudi Arabia..... He was there days ago but not tody

You’re retarded

What a coincidence.

Mueller is draining our swamp and about to arrest a bunch of folk too

Hahahaha u people make me laugh

las vegas wasn't a false flag you retarded monkey

you people need serious fucking professional help for your mental illnesses.

Huma Abedin and Anthony Weiner = Israel and Saudi Arabia special relationship, indeed.

http://www.inspiretochangeworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ISIS-is-working-on-Mossad-CIA-plan-to-Create-Greater-Israel-2.jpg

You could say...takes off sunglasses... they're having a Sheikh-up.

You did it. You won the whole Reddit.

All 37 of us. The rest clearly Shills.

Even the shills upvoted that comment.

Wow, man, this really contributes to the topic.

You need karma this bad?

Ee, don't encourage stupid pun bullshit.

I encourage what I want

may I quote you? oh, or I could just cite the source.

Are you serious right now?

That was perfect!

Boom

Mods?

Off topic

Doesn't contribute

Low effort

Childish

tldr pls?

The interesting thing to me is Kushner being in Saudi Arabia recently. He was not there over the weekend, but was there "unannounced" in October. This opens up so many questions in my opinion.

Did Trump know about Saudi involvement in the recent Las Vegas shooting (and potentially 9/11), and sent Kushner there to give them an ultimatum about arresting these people under a threat of some sort?

Does this have something to do with the Mueller investigation? There has been recent talk that this investigation has been happening under the full cooperation of Trump because Mueller has found much more damning information about Clinton/Podesta and their money connections to Saudi Arabia, and Kushner was there to share that info?

Does this have something to do with some sort of proposed peace deal between Saudi Arabia and Israel (since Kushner is involved who is Trump's man in the Middle East peace process) and Kushner made this deal, potentially under threat to get that peace deal done?

I don't know at all- those are just speculations on my part. But one big piece of this puzzle in terms of Trump's knowledge of these events is that "unannounced" visit.

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/927157302687404033

Trump was on the phone with Saudi Arabia while the arrests were taking place...... wow

Soon to be coming to the USA.

Right now, to tie a lot of different ends together, I could see a very quick entertainment industry purge of the Left.

It's sad how mentally ill you guys are. Please get help.

Only time will tell...

Dale Gribble was right.

Lol!

How the fuck was Mandalay Bay a false flag?

You think it was a lone gunman. It was not.

Mind giving me some definitive proof?

I'm not jumping in to pick a side. I do find it interesting that some of reports on this particular event has mentioned investigations into potential false flag events in SA. Odd ones like a virus that killed hundreds of people for example. Right now we have a lot of info and disinfo coming out. It is hard to make any determinations on what is really going on.

I agree. I'll admit that when I saw "LV False flag", I jumped to conclusions in my head akin to those who said Sandy Hook was a false flag and no one had died.

I think anytime you can link a false flag event to a 1%'er...it is much easier because you can find their associations to a lot tied to the event. These guys control most of the world and literally have their hands in many things. On the flip side you could say the 1% are certainly involved in these events and use the deep state to orchestrate/blackmail/extort the innocent into doing bad things.

Yeah, there's no way now.

To go, several weeks later, and try to claim the narrative which is so obvious on that kind of stuff, it would take maybe only a few hours of investigation to figure out (guy's a high-roller, plays on cards for comps, find out which cards and take their history, and done).

God, I wish they would do something like that here!

They have converted Ritz Carlton (biggest 5-star in Riyadh) to a jail.

I had dinner with some former special ops guys who drunkingly told me Saudi Arabia was done in 5 years, this was 2 years ago

So, take all this with a grain of salt because I cannot provide evidence due to this kid's privacy.. but a student of mine (I teach at night) is from Saudi Arabia. His father was one of the previous king's ambassadors. This is what he's had to say:

Its kind of a mini coup. They purged half the cabinet, princes and business owners. The news isn't reporting any of the stuff we're seeing. We woke up to sounds of gunfire and ppl being dragged out of their homes

and

I have no sympathy for these people though. A bunch of corrupt drug smugglers and thieves! Especially alwaleed bin talal the guy who owns the bellagio... He's an asshole! The good guys won in this case

The news isn't going to report it because there are no networks left to give the news -- all three network heads in Saudi Arabia were arrested as part of this "coup".

He wasn't only talking about the SA news, and he was specifically talking about gun shots and the forceful removal of people.

When are they going to make a tv series of all of this shit?

You are a fool!!! This is the start of the NWO!!! Anyone remember this? This was the signal to get shit started.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-orb-globe-saudi-arabia-what-was-it-2017-5

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gulf/2017/11/06/Saudi-Prince-Mansour-bin-Muqrin-dies-in-helicopter-crash.html

Add a Saudi Prince dying in a helicopter crash to that list.

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I don’t know. The Saudis created an anti-corruption campaign and now they are going after corruption and those thought to be money laundering. Glen Greenwald ask a good question here. https://theintercept.com/2016/08/25/why-did-the-saudi-regime-and-other-gulf-tyrannies-donate-millions-to-the-clinton-foundation/

Israel was and is and will always be Thebes fucking puppet master here

Prince Mansour bin Muqrin along with other top officials battling the corruption in Saudi Arabia has just died in a helicopter crash.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-41881058

Ahahahaha

what the fuck

So the world series is a conspiracy too huh?

This fits right in with the New King getting rid of a lot of the old Kings puppet leaders- the prime minister of Lebanon was involved in moving Saudi money to Hezbollah, money is being cut off since new king is pro Israel

Fight!

Khazars khazars khazars

Read the thread

Wtf is VOTL?:

What did Trump have to do with this? It's an incoming King purging his rivals as has happened in nearly every monarchy throughout history.

No nevada

Yup, you don’t hate Jews, just those Jews on double secret probation

Got it

To be fair, it's also something that happens when the US covertly subverts an opposing government with lots of oil or other natural resources. I think this situation is a lot more nuanced and not as simple as your describing it. No harm in being thorough.

Kinda like Stalin?

Yeah, they won the super bowl.

"Lebanese security forces said they had no knowledge of any plot to kill the former leader."

When you apply for a grant from Alaweed philanthropies you can select either "global" or "lebanon"

They got orphanages too...

Someone answer this man!

You mean greater Khazaria?

Yup, not one Jew hater in the bunch

wow, nice connecttion

Well for starters they operate in another dimension. We have whistleblowers from Nasa talking about aliens and Spacecraft at Lockheed and Boeing, spacecrafts making rings around saturn and uranus. From MK ULTRA talking about the archons and reptilians and holographic universe.

Huge amount of scripture from ancient civilization talking about their hack. The moon being up there without any real science to back it's existence up.

A system in our world so well coordinated that would be impossible to run by only simple humans.

People talking about the hack then getting murdered.

Satan(saturn) worshipers in our governments. Pedophile as well harvesting energy from kids. The great pyramids..

And so on... Like you have to be pretty ignorant to not understand this by know..

Are the ziocons making their move?

You did it, you got em! Good job boy, have a pat on the head! Run along now!

That's crazy. Talal has his hands in everything.

the King-to-be is arresting anyone he deems a rival or a threat.

And scaring the shit out of anyone who was even thinking of siding up against him. But I do think he picked his targets for some big reason.

Iirc... Isnt this king to be the guy who said enough is enough to the extremist version of islam?

Jewrusalum lol love it

So talking heads can tell us what he said.

Can't argue with JIDF. Everything fffgggtttyyy said are logical fallacies. Don't feed the trolls. They don't get that the mere existence of JIDF is enough to hate Zionists- let alone the facts of their existence. Source: ethnically Jew.

So corporate and oligarch oversight then?

Well, they got him boys and girls

The storm.

Looks like the Q is coming through.

Have an upvote for staying abreast. I want you on my team.

shhhh, don't bring logic into a conversation with an idiot

I agree. I'll admit that when I saw "LV False flag", I jumped to conclusions in my head akin to those who said Sandy Hook was a false flag and no one had died.

I agree however someone always loses in bankruptcy. Do yiu really want to praise sone one that went bankrupt like he's a winner give me a break

No doubt.

The destruction of Jerusalem occurred after a revolt in 70 AD. Frankly, I don't know if Jews at that time were charging usury or not.

I know it became much more common in the Middle Ages, as catholic canon law forbid Christians to charge each other interest entirely (not just usury, but any interest) which led to credit problems.

Your arguments are insufferable. I'm not going to be trolled any further. Try to smile today. It will make life easier for those around you.

I don’t know if it is a gang fight. Saudi Arabia is arresting Princes and high officials. Jared Kushner was just there in SA. The Prime Minister of Lebanon fly to SA and stepped down as PM there.

Personally I believe this has to do with calling in favors for Israel. Bibi doesn’t want anyone with connections to Hezbollah to be PM in Lebanon. Israel attacked Syria in the Golan Heights on Friday. And ISIS has been attacking the Christian’s in Damascus for the past 5 days. Turkey has military on their borders as Syrian army drives Al Qaeda and ISIS out of Idlib. Yemen shot a long range missile at Rydhia airport yesterday. And today a helicopter with another Saudi Prince and officials was shot down on Yemen border.

So if you figure it out let me know. I personally think CIA is playing whack a mole in the Middle East.

ok