mmmm what about White Russians? Those are damn good cocktails! :)

Lol the Putin is a good guy meme. It's not like he has control over clandestine agencies.

I may have to rethink my position on Soros if Putin thinks he's a threat to that dictatorship

Shit's fake man, you're drinking your own kool-aid.

The shit you quoted is fake.

Refute what?

My argument is that you quote fabricated documents created to serve as propaganda...as part of your crusade against propaganda. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so cringe.

Your argument fails because the debunking of the Protocols was debunked

Really? How? Show me the proof that it's authentic. Explain the debunking to the best of your ability, then explain the debunking of the debunking. That is, if you actually know what you're talking about and aren't just fronting.

Feel free to provide proof that it was faked.

Large portions of it were straight-up plagiarized by Maurice Joly's "The Dialogue in Hell", a satire written over 40 years prior to when an anti-semitic ultra-nationalist party in Russia "found" the Protocols and published them. Someone just went to the library looking for "What evil people sound like" and then copied it and put "Signed, the Jews" at the end.

I didn't say it was authentic. I said that the debunking was debunked. It was never credibly debunked.

How? Describe the debunking to me, then describe the debunking of the debunking.

And...what the fuck? You don't think it's authentic, but you still quote it as though it were? Or you do think it's authentic, but you can't prove it to anyone?

All that crap you wrote failed to credibly debunk it.

That's just part of why it's obviously faked. More obvious is that the person who "found" it couldn't keep his story straight.

I get why you are a throw away, because most of your comments are garbage. Good luck finding a new couch to put in your Moms basement so you and your dog Nipples have somewhere to sleep

It's fake! It's fake!

Funny how nobody ever addresses the points made in it - they just cry, "fake!"

Somebody made up a fictional document to support their anti-semitism and I'm supposed to "address" the "points" it makes? What does that even mean? Like, pretend the document is real for the sake of discussion? No thanks.

This game has been played ever since the document was revealed. Those in power who could be implicated by it never address it, and if forced to do so they just say "it's fake" instead of denying or disproving the information contained in it.

instead of denying or disproving the information contained in it.

What information is in it? None. It's just putting a spin on things and then writing from the fake perspective of conspirators.

"It's fake because it's fake, stop talking about it" is basically your argument.

No, my argument is it's fake because you have zero proof of its authenticity. Zero.

So so you criticize Trump and his supporters for doing the same thing? Somehow I doubt it.

How can I shoehorn Trump into this?

Thanks for playing.

so ask if the russian is a jew?

whatever

Good Russians vs. bad Russians.

Good spies vs. bad spies.

Good military guys vs. bad military guys.

Good Jews vs. bad "Jews."

Good Feds vs. bad Feds.

Good secret societies vs. bad secret societies.

-or-

Bad secret societies vs. worse secret societies?

Find it very hard to see Putin as a "good" guy. Smart, pragmatic thug who doesn't want to see his reign end or his country fall might be good enough, though.

I like how you conveniently omitted Deripaska's connections to Trump and his campaign. I also liked the part where you implied that there are Russian oligarchs that aren't puppets for Putin. This is some next level disinfo right here

Do you have any proof that all Russian Oligarchs are Putin puppets?

Putin basically bitch slapped Deripaska to sign factory work agreements. If you want more proof, you should read up on what happened to Mikhail Khodorkovsky.

That's what you do to your enemies. You don't do that to your friends.

No, Putin murders his enemies. His last powerful enemy was Khodorkovsky. He threw him in jail and exiled him from Russia.

So you are trying to say that Deripaska was not a puppet by signing factory work agreements after Putin explicitly told him to? If Deripaska was Putin's enemy, why wouldn't he just throw him in jail?

I can list off plenty clear cut cases of Deripaska corruption in the mining industry. Putin's Prosecutor General would find it extremely easy to throw him in jail.

Deripaska has resources. Money and muscle.

So explain to me how the most powerful oligarch in Russia, worth $15+ billion was able to get arrested in 2003? Mikhail had the same net worth, if not more than Deripaska.

Get real. Go learn about the real world before you come spouting your bullshit here.

I can almost guarantee you I know more than you do about Deripaska.

Someone made an example of Mikhail.

Yeah, Putin did. You basically admitted that.

He made a bad mistake somewhere. You don't think that the rest of the oligarchs got a strong hint over that affair? You don't think they fell in line to avoid the same fate?

THANK YOU FOR ADMITTING YOU ARE WRONG

And upped their security?

If you knew anything about Deripaska, you would know when he had the most security hired. I'll give you a hint, it was not when Putin was in power.

Falling in line and being on the same team are not the same.

You are right, but falling in line and being a puppet is the exact same thing, which is what you originally posted.

Do you have any proof that all Russian Oligarchs are Putin puppets? especially Soros's buddy Deripaska?

A puppet goes willingly

That is the opposite of what a puppet is, otherwise puppets would not have strings. Feel free to show definitions or examples of puppets that have free will.

puppet: a person, group, government, etc., whose actions are prompted and controlled by another or others

That kindof sounds like what happened to Deripaska right there.

Well, technically it can go both ways.

Feel free to show some technicality behind that statement.

I'm not sure you understand how an oligarchy works. It's just not "a country with rich and powerful people in it", their power and wealth is contingent on having cozy relationships with the State.

You don't get it. Once you're in charge of a state like Russia which has much weaker controls on government than the US, people who aren't on your team go to jail or have their assets seized and their contracts cancelled.

Putin's crypto-fascist scum. The right doesn't like him because he's a "nationalist", they like him because he fucks over gays and Muslims, vocally insinuates against refugees and immigrants, and funds white nationalist parties all over Europe.

Pretty relevant because it explains why the far right has a boner for him when up until he took power they distrusted Russia.

Dissemble, deflect, distract. You really memorized the playbook, didn't you? Or are you working from a script?

So very true...if only people understood who the Khazars were and how Israel has slowly been taken over by them. Then they would understand what is meant in the Book of Revelations when it speaks of “the Jews who are not Jews, but are the Synagogue of Satan.” I am not one bit anti Semitic, for I wish only the best for the Jews. It is the Khazarian Mafia I want to see destroyed.

Rightfully so.

Pretty relevant because it explains why the far right has a boner for him when up until he took power they distrusted Russia.