https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agaritine

Yep...don't eat little white mushrooms or the adult form "Portobello".

Thanks for the heads up!

I eat button mushrooms raw on a daily basis . . . should I, you know . . . stop?

All mushrooms should be cooked no matter the type.

Except...you know...those of the cubensis variety.

Mmmmmmm....maybe?

Read that wickedpedia entry on Agaritine. Agaritine gets turned into Hydrogen Peroxide in your liver. Hydrogen Peroxide then breaks DNA immediately. I believe I'm reading that right.

Shitake, Maitake and others don't have that chemical compound at all. Listen to that clip. Stamets says he only consumes 5 types (cooked). Should be safe to eat those.

is this some kinda troll? portabellas are good

Did it just finished? Was trying to watch it after I saw this just now and the YouTube said stream offline after I clicked on it and now it’s not there. That’s one broadcast I wanna see!!

Some ifo I found...please take it witha grain of salt as all sources should...

https://draxe.com/portobello-mushroom/

Seriously, dude. Do you even English?

A simple "no" would have sufficed.

Grammar and clear writing are equally, or more, important here as anywhere else.

Agaritine mushrooms are linked to cancer

Is there a portabella mushroom conspiracy?

Correction, a shubreddit of a huge conspiracy.

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Holy shit, you are not kidding. He says

This is an explosive conversation, and it puts my life in danger. Therefore I reserve the right not to answer that question.

Holy shit. What is up with portobello mushrooms?

I really want to know what the fuck is going on here. His face is so dead serious on the topic, when I saw it mid-podcast I smiled and my eyes opened wide. :| ----> 8)
I like the guy's hat too, at the start of the podcast he mentions that it's made out of mushroom.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2132000/

Thank you

TL;DR Portobello mushrooms can cause cancer.

tl;dr not properly heating Agaricus mushrooms will potentially give you cancer

If you listen to the entire thing it's clear - mushrooms are connected to everything across the world and can communicate. Portobello's are on the top of the mushroom hierarchy, what they say goes. If they find out some human has been talking about them, and their almost magically effects, they will kill him.

What if they learn to use the internet and find your reply and come after you next???

They already have their own internet. I just hope they haven't found a way to tap into human internet yet.

Damn, I must be in some shit ten bc I've eaten a ton of them.

wtf is happening in here?

I get that the undercooked mushrooms might cause cancer but how does him talking about potentially getting cancer put his life in danger? This makes no sense, but I'm intrigued and want to know more.

Used to make biological weapons? Could be. Never know.

It's the amount of money from large food companies silencing him, for now.

Probably the mafia

Sorry for gravedigging this post, found it on google. I’m guessing the pharma companies make a huge amount of money off cancer treatments, and would probably kill off anyone who puts their billions of dollars of profit at risk. Just a guess

This sounds most likely as the cause of his life being in danger, but I also believe that there's at least some truth to each of the theories in this thread.

This has to be it. If you keep listening to the podcast, Stamets gets on the topic of enoki mushrooms just a few minutes later and mentions that enoki factories in Japan give the deformed enoki mushrooms that can't be sold to the public to their workers and so those workers' families eat a higher per capita consumption of enoki than anywhere else in Japan...

And guess what?

It resulted in a reduction of all cancers across the board.

Stamets says he has multiple articles online about this (Huffington Post, I think), so it's all peer reviewed and verifiable.

So the fact that he landed on the subject of mushrooms and cancer almost immediately after opting to not talk about the "negative effects" of portobellos is rather... interesting.

To support this, immediately after they change the subject Paul mentions breast cancer reduction through button mushrooms

This is a great post. Good catch!

Here is the spot everybody needs to listen from: https://youtu.be/mPqWstVnRjQ?t=1h43m5s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agaritine http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1756464610000241

Cooking with high heat may make white button or the adult form (Portobello) safe. I ain't eating them anymore.

Thanks for the useful links there man. I should have upped my google game because looking specifically for the negative effects of portabellos was not helping.

Sounds like this guy is trying to tell us that they can give us cancer but not directly saying it.

I don't understand; could his life be at risk because of suits from Big Mushroom call up the Mushroom Mafia to assassinate him, or because the mushrooms have a conscious neural network of high intelligence, so the mushrooms themselves will attack him?

I heard the podcast but i forget what the 4 were. Could you list them?

Lion's mane was one

Chaga...

And Ganoderma, chaga, turkey tail

Another one was turkey tail mushrooms

According to a link recently posted https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/2132000/ Shitake does contain some, much smaller amounts but it was detected.

Oh crap!

A portabello!? whats dangerous about a portabello? they aint even pyschedelic or magic or nothing. How does Stamlets feel about shiitake? fuck shittake man.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agaritine

Potrobello, Cremini, and the plain white button mushrooms (all the same family) contain Agaritine.

Shitake, Maitake, magic mushrooms and most others don't have Agaritine. Read up on what Agaritine may do to you.

I'll eat mushrooms that don't have Agaritine. Now we all know.

Note the pause when he said "This is an explosive......... area of conversation"

diarrhea... cha cha cha

Hahahaha.

When you're hunting for some shrooms And you feel explosive booms

Thermite.

So...you can use them to make explosives?

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He ded

If you notice he says "explosive" when talking about it. Agaritine is a derivative of Hydrazine which can be used in a variety of ways. Things like bombs ,jet fuel, poison, corrosion prevention on marine equipment and even to develop photographs.

This sounds right! Wow, yeah probably something the gov makes money on and they don't want people to find out about. There's no coming between the government and their money. We should study this and break the news.

Well can I just say jet fuel tastes delicious sauteed?

Don't forget about gyromitrin another hydrazine derivative also produced by Portabellos that once hydrolyzed with water becomes monomethylhydrazine aka rocket fuel a very toxic substance and known carcinogen. Apparently the only way to remove it completely is to chop the mushroom into small pieces and boil repeatedly.

Here's the link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyromitrin

A mushroom growing friend of mine had a good theory. Apparently there are areas in PA that are portabella territory. Some of the companies involved also have rumored ties to Italian Mafia and mushroom growing would be a great laundering strategy. Paul condemning them would cut into their profit margins maybe. It's a stretch but not out of the question....

Could be, the Mafia is deeply into food production (and food fraud) in Italy

Thats actually what I thought too. I didn't know about PA/mafia ties, but the idea that a business owner who was aware of a secret that could deep six their business would kill to keep that secret safe.

I mean there's some mob stuff in Philly but it's not rampant or anything as far as I know lmao but I also didn't know about our apparent mushroom richness

Hey your prob right about the mafia over on the east coast. So im from Portland Oregon and Paul lives up in the sound area. Not to be prejudice or anything but we have a lot of southeast asian and chinese people out here and they love thier mushrooms. When i was growing up in portland every year during mushroom season the woods became a war zone until they armed the forest service guys and sent an army of them to protect regular folks from being robbed and attacked and run out of thier camps by armed gangs. Their serious. Like the mafia on the east coast the chinese exist over here esp. Up in Vancouver and seattle and im sure they have a huge hand in imoporting from china as well as farming portabellas here. So yeah i would keep my mouth shut too.

Thanks for the heads up. I deleted the post :X

Appologies. I forgot to mention the russian influence as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9WMrqHMld4

Talks about it here.

What if they learn to use the internet and find your reply and come after you next???

Damn, I must be in some shit ten bc I've eaten a ton of them.