Vegas shooting and Stephen Paddock
51 2017-11-09 by mediocrityisevident
Are we going to focus on trying to solve this real crime that has real questions or just flood the sub with sensationalist headlines about bullshit news stories.?
Pages and pages of new threads, nothing on vegas. This isn't a conspiracy subreddit it's a place for sensationalist wackjob's to post articles from the most dis-reputable sources and seek some sort of positive affirmation from someone on the internet.
42 comments
1 My-Alt_Alt-Account 2017-11-09
Sorry, we don't live up to your standards. Do you wish to punish us? Shall I retrieve the hose?
1 EknobFelix 2017-11-09
Jumper cables.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-11-09
Waterboarding
1 aleister 2017-11-09
With sand.
1 Skysweep 2017-11-09
Oh how frustrated I am ...not about here..but the fact that there is nothing...no news..nada...zilch!!!
1 imjoiningacult 2017-11-09
It might be naive of me, but I'm kind of comforted by the "Q" 4chan thing. It feels like we're on the cusp of something right now, the edge of some schism, I'm excited about the idea of everyone around me waking up. I'm watching it happen with my employees, it started with Vegas, I don't talk politics with my guys, ever, I love to listen to them though, get a normie point of view on things. We're a pretty conservative workplace and they typically eat every bit of propaganda any MSM gives out... But since Vegas they've been real suspicious of things, I've had to walk out of the break room a few times because I felt like I needed to praise them.
Fingers crossed, this big, ancient machine is starting to collapse and a new day is on the horizon.
1 Skysweep 2017-11-09
Oh this is a wonderful post!! I agree. I tell my friends....watch. Be aware. Big things are happening! Not sure what but I can feel it! I am anxious that things happen for the good..that they fall (and I do believe things are starting to fall) in the right direction! I want truth...starving for it!
1 Skidnearx 2017-11-09
I am able to see peoples social security numbers, along with any known addresses that they have ever been attached too, as long as they are here in the US... I decided to look him up, nothing came up for him. A few Stephen paddocks, but none in NV, none close to age, NOTHING. wtf???
1 YeshuaIsSaviour 2017-11-09
IF you want to crave your hunger for Vegas false flag then go search a youtube channel called "End Times News" because he has the best content I have seen and will not stop until he has concrete evidence to expose it.
1 psy_raven 2017-11-09
Dude I just posted a vegas post 2 days ago that got 1700 upvotes. We're working on it, but with no new evidence released not much we can do.
1 swordofdamocles42 2017-11-09
username checks out
1 Skysweep 2017-11-09
That's another thing..it's despicable how little information we have been given! Truth truth..truth. I wants it!
1 AFuckYou 2017-11-09
I think it's been solved. It had something to do with the Saudis, but we don't know what. They used helicopters. FBI had something to do with it, because they are covering it up.
That's as much as we will learn.
1 Some-Sort-of-IxFx 2017-11-09
Until they want to start a new war, and then Paddock will be revealed as a secret agent for whatever country they want to go to war with.
1 AFuckYou 2017-11-09
Agreed
1 mediocrityisevident 2017-11-09
No it's those stupid theories like people shooting from helicopters that stop the real truth of what happened that night..
Paddock bought the guns from gun stores, store owners have been interviewed saying yes in fact they did, paddock bought 10+ bags to the casino which clearly had the guns in them, he didnt bring 10 bags of clothes...
If the FBI was going to do it with a helicopter they would do it during one of the many times there is a gun convention is vegas so they know people in hotel rooms are gonna have firearms they can use as a patsy...
The helicopter theory etc has far far FAR more holes in it than the official narrative and fuck me the official narrative has more holes than the door leading to Paddocks room.. yet everyone jumps all over the helo theory and all other nonsense like a politician to a free lunch...
1 AFuckYou 2017-11-09
Except there's faa flight data of helicopters going to mandala bay and turning off their transponders and videos of gun fire in the middle of the air.
Tots stupid.
1 mediocrityisevident 2017-11-09
Thats not FAA flight data, it's from fucking flightradar which is not using official FAA data, jesus christ.
Link these videos of "gun fire in the middle of the air " because i would "tots" love to see one.
1 AFuckYou 2017-11-09
I simply googled "helicopter shooting mandala bay." And fine, it is flight radar, whatever.
Go ahead and explain it to me. You have obviously seen it. What is your take.
https://youtu.be/_mS6LH6V_0U
And if your a real conspiracy contributor and poster, take the time to look something up your self. Ask if you can't find it.
1 mediocrityisevident 2017-11-09
That helicopter has so much gunfire coming out of it the camera man gets bored and decides to just start panning around to the sirens in the area. Just a guy with a camera hearing sirens and gunfire trying to figure out whats going on.
As for the flashes they are front and rear strobes for a city bound bird in a high air traffic area, nothing unusual.
1 AFuckYou 2017-11-09
What is your take on the flight radar helicopters turning off their transponders?
You have a good point. Those may just be flashing lights. The more I look at it the more sense that makes.
The satire wasn't great. I thought you were serious at first. I didn't get the joke.
You have a logical explanation for the helicopter thing. So my great solution doesn't seem that great. Can you give your opinion on:
What's your take on the whole thing?
Why is the shooter a ghost? NO video, No nothing. The money to the Philippines? The girl friend? His money. His innocuous jobs that appear to tie him to something deeper? The fact that he "made money" slot gambling. The crappy investigation. The ever changing stories. The security guards armed being two stories below him. The Saudi ties to the hotel.
I'm not trying to overwhelm and I'm not being factious. Looking for an opinion.
1 mediocrityisevident 2017-11-09
I don't believe they did turn off their transponders, i believe it's an error/loss in the data from flight radar or from whatever source they use but i may be wrong.
My take on the whole thing - I don't have a take, if you make up your mind on what you think happened then you will naturally try to find/try to make the evidence or videos fit your opinion. I'd rather see evidence and see where that leads with no pre-determined idea of what happened.
There is video it just hasn't been released for whatever reason, there is old video of him walking through the Cosmo hotel and falling over in 2013 he's not a ghost at all - just not all over social media which as his brother pointed out "what's weirder taking 10 photos of yourself everyday and plastering them on the internet for other people to approve of or living a private life, whos the weirdo"
Money to the phillipines is only 100k... 100k for any high stakes gamblers is like a steak dinner, it's a lot of money but it's not going to affect their life in any way if it's gone.
The jobs only tie him to something deeper if you have a pre-determined idea he was an agent of some kind, although there is definitely questions that need to be answered there.
The fact that he made money playing Video poker is certainly a red flag or an interesting point of the narrative that reeks of bullshit.
Final thoughts - Honestly the more i think about it the more it stumps me. You can't have an opinion on it i don't think until the Sheriff starts telling the truth, because CLEARLY he has lied, not just misled or not accurate information but the guy has clearly lied about what they knew, and if he didn't lie then it screams incompetence. There were basics facts of the case, the absolute most basic of facts that were still being changed weeks after.
Every person who interviews the sheriff or gets to ask him question never asks any follow up's and they are the most softball questions, it's sick that as the sheriff he's not forced to hold a conference and answer questions the public has. My gut feelings are that he was involved in illegal dealing either Cocaine or Asian woman/indulged in Child porn online or he was talking to someone online about illegal things who he did some research on and realised it was most likely Law Enforcement he had been talking to and that he was going to be arrested in the future and rather than going to jail decided to go out with a bang.
He may also have just been frustrated that Vegas has changed a lot over the years and losing the identity as a Gambling town and the hotels comps being reduced.. All the huge outdoor concerts and EDM pool parties all through the summer and focusing on the party side of things rather than being a gambling town.. He also was isolated without a circle of friends so to speak his whole life and that can certainly fuel resentment that he was intelligent,managed to acquire money etc but never acquired friends who liked him for him.. Shooting at a concert and ONLY the concert was either just for mass casualties or it also was part of the motive, to end all the outdoor parties that had annoyed him for all these years. Remember he had made noise complaints about people in the past.
1 d1450 2017-11-09
Helicopter extraction of Saudi royal , FBI involvement, Yemeni involvement. Paddock decoy. Likely not the shooter.
1 Avid_Smoker 2017-11-09
Do you even know what the word "solved" means?
1 AFuckYou 2017-11-09
That your response? A lot of thought went into that one. Do you sincerely think I'm illiterate or never had math? Who wouldn't know the definition of solved? What happened to sincere responses on conspiracy?
1 Avid_Smoker 2017-11-09
I think you're partially literate, not sure about the math. It was a sincere response. You say all in one comment that it's solved, but we don't know who did it etc., leading me to believe that no, you do not know what the word solved means.
1 d1450 2017-11-09
Yemeni agents too right ? Was it a Yemen - Saudi firefight? Gunsale? What?
1 AFuckYou 2017-11-09
I dunno. I don't think mandala was what is reported. I honestly don't know what happened. I just don't think the main story makes sense.
I am really skeptical of not video of the shooter at all. The shooter is a modern day ghost.
1 Masked-Person 2017-11-09
the irony is your post is another wasted thread on this.
1 Some-Sort-of-IxFx 2017-11-09
Best I could do on short notice:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7brizj/can_we_talk_about_how_stephen_paddocks_father/
1 mediocrityisevident 2017-11-09
I guess what i'm asking is does anyone know of any forums etc that have rational thought out, intelligent theories and discussion on the Vegas incident..
Here there is just theories with bigger holes than the official narrative yet people treat them like gospel, its what makes conspiracy theorists look like retards at times quite frankly
1 ImmortalAl 2017-11-09
I've been wondering the same thing, man.
1 ImmortalAl 2017-11-09
I've been wondering the same thing, man. I don't know where else besides this sub that's talking about the shooting but would like to know.
1 swordofdamocles42 2017-11-09
vegas is 100% hoax.
i can prove it but everytime i try i can deleted/banned. this is why its not anywhere.... its being deleted from the internet. somehow they didn't think it was a bad idea to be so bold. and they fucked up. but who cares right? they control the flow of information and can shape it to however they want. there was no second shooter or multiple shooters. it was all a hoax. (yes natural news guy is one of them :(
prioritize your time to find a single bullet hole. there are zero. they have faked a lot of footage of course. but start there... look up the term "moulage" and try find one bullet hole that is not faked.
peace
1 bleav11 2017-11-09
An in-law, co-worker, and a dozen friends of mine can confirm that they were most definitely shot at. They can also confirm that they saw dozens of dead bodies with their own two eyes.
By saying it didn’t even happen, you are undermining everyone who is trying to actually get to the bottom of it.
1 Avid_Smoker 2017-11-09
Don't bother. The guys a fucking idiot.
1 mediocrityisevident 2017-11-09
Um the bullet holes in the tanks...?
1 swordofdamocles42 2017-11-09
you don't think that could be faked... there should be over 1000 bullet holes
1 mediocrityisevident 2017-11-09
Why when roughly 600 were hit? That would mean 400 bullets that could have left impact marks etc.. there are plenty of vids of bullet richochets against metal doors etc you just choose to ignore them.
1 swordofdamocles42 2017-11-09
ok show me please
1 mediocrityisevident 2017-11-09
What would you like to see ? ill do the googling for you
1 swordofdamocles42 2017-11-09
orbituarys grieving families entry and exit wounds cctv footage ballistics reports.
1 mediocrityisevident 2017-11-09
Your obviously a fucking idiot if you want cctv footage but cellphone footage isn't good enough for you..
Here you go muppet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF4QxFOKoR8
All those cups squirting liquid and spinning around by themselves i guess aye..
1 swordofdamocles42 2017-11-09
please don't swear at me thanks 600 people supposedly got shot. there should be mountains of evidence. 100% hoax
i watched that pathetic video... not one drop of blood.
look, this is proof it was a hoax https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cndOsUE8yi4&feature=youtu.be
1 NegitiveDeltaG 2017-11-09
Lets make blogs and team up
1 aleister 2017-11-09
With sand.
1 bleav11 2017-11-09
An in-law, co-worker, and a dozen friends of mine can confirm that they were most definitely shot at. They can also confirm that they saw dozens of dead bodies with their own two eyes.
By saying it didn’t even happen, you are undermining everyone who is trying to actually get to the bottom of it.
1 mediocrityisevident 2017-11-09
Um the bullet holes in the tanks...?
1 AFuckYou 2017-11-09
I dunno. I don't think mandala was what is reported. I honestly don't know what happened. I just don't think the main story makes sense.
I am really skeptical of not video of the shooter at all. The shooter is a modern day ghost.