The Freemasons are satanic
1 2017-11-12 by JkRazor12
Last night (Sat, Nov 11th 2017) was veterans day. I was volunteering at my local conference center that was holding a veterans supper. The event was hosted by the Freemasons society. After the event was over, I got the opportunity to speak with the local head master of the organization. We shook hands and exchanged pleasantries, but I couldn't help but have my eyes drawn to his tie. It was a red silk tie with a bunch of symbols all over it. It had the masonic symbol, the sword of Justice, but there was also another symbol. A pentagram with a circle around it. I tired not to stare to much and luckily he didn't notice because he was speaking with one of my fellow volunteers. A few minutes past and he announced his need to leave. We shook hands once more and he left. Once he was out of hearing range, I turned to my friend and asked him if he noticed the tie as well. He said yes. TL;DR The Freemasons are satanists
33 comments
1 bongozim 2017-11-12
Its an emblem from a women's auxiliary organization called "Order of the Eastern Star", its more christian than anything, the idea of these little old ladies having anything to do with Satan is hilarious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Eastern_Star
1 DefNotJRossiter 2017-11-12
I came here to ask OP if there were different colours in each quadrant in the star, but it looks like someone already covered Order of the Eastern Star. Hahaha have an upvote!
1 Katayani108 2017-11-12
Interesting enough, it used to be right side up! Eastern star circa 1960's
1 ChapelPerilousBooks 2017-11-12
Just read Morals and Dogma.
1 Squox 2017-11-12
Freemason here...
Pleas remember that Morals and Dogma was written by one dude, and is a matter of opinion on what Freemasonry means. It's not an "official" freemason's book. it's one guy's musings.
1 KickedinTheDick 2017-11-12
But wasnt it given to every initiate in the southern jurisdiction for decades?
1 Squox 2017-11-12
Southern Jurisdiction of Scottish Rite, which is a separate (though related) body. And it was given to them because the writer of Morals and Dogma was the guy who was in charge of the Southern Jurisdiction. He was pimping his book.
1 Gen_Kael 2017-11-12
Ok I'll trust a guy who holds secret rituals with other men while scantly clad lol
1 JkRazor12 2017-11-12
Well obviously I didn't do enough research on this. But either way, why adopt a pentagram (A known symbol with ties to satanism) to represent women in the Freemasons
1 bongozim 2017-11-12
The org far predates the modern and common use of the pentagram as a symbol of satanism. It wasn't till the mid 60's when La Vey started using it for the Church of Satan that the association was made. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigil_of_Baphomet )
In hindsight, yeah its unfortunate and confusing now.
1 JkRazor12 2017-11-12
Well thank you for educating me on this subject. I guess I'll leave this post here in case someone else runs into the same situation / question.
1 bongozim 2017-11-12
yeah its weird... Freemasonry is old, at least 400 years old, some say older. So there's a big grab bag of misunderstood symbolism that we use. There's definitely an undercurrent of western esotericism in the mix that got added later, it all makes sense when explained, but to the uninitiated its super weird.
1 WestCoastHippy 2017-11-12
Nah, the upside down symbol almost always means Luciferianism. The symbol is far more ancient than LaVey. The Freemasons and co employ the concept of inversion with gusto.
Yes, there are biblical inverted stars to symbolize the crucifixtion, god looking down on earth, etc, but those uses have context.
In this context, the inverted star is Luciferian. Freemasons mock Christianity to no end.
1 bongozim 2017-11-12
source on use of a pentagram for Luciferianism?
1 WestCoastHippy 2017-11-12
Are you playing semantic games here with Luciferianism and LaVey timelines?
I dunno when "Luciferianism" term became popular, or if LaVey made it "official" or wherever you're going with this.
Whatever practices it describes, whatever group it encompasses, uses the inverted star, and has used the inverted star.
I don't keep a list of sources for inversion.
1 bongozim 2017-11-12
Nope, no semantics games at all. And here's a source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigil_of_Baphomet
"The familiar goat's head inside an inverted pentagram/pentacle did not become the foremost symbol of Satanism until the founding of the Church of Satan in 1966."
And frankly, members of La Vey's Church of Satan would not be admitted to mainstream Freemasonry, as they are atheists. Our only requirement is belief in a supreme being and (in many places) a continuance of the soul. We never ask what someone's beliefs are past that.
And further sources as to why this is not semantic, but an important distinction. Luciferianism, as a religion is also a pretty modern invention (relatively speaking) and is a theistic religion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism
"Sometimes mistakenly associated with Satanism due to the Christian interpretation of the fallen angel, Luciferianism is a wholly different belief system[26] and does not revere the devil figure or most characteristics typically affixed to Satan. Rather, Lucifer in this context is seen as one of many morning stars, a symbol of enlightenment,[27] independence and human progression, and is often used interchangeably with similar figures from a range of ancient beliefs, such as the Greek titan Prometheus or the Jewish talmudic figure Lilith."
I personally identify with Christian Deism more than anything else.. http://christiandeism.com/
1 Gen_Kael 2017-11-12
" did not become the foremost symbol" but was a symbol none the less lol stop trying to make us accept freemasonry as anything but terrible. Seriously anything that requires secret meetings that only a select group of people can attend and then not splash about is not in the best interest of the general population and is thus evil in my book.
1 bongozim 2017-11-12
By this definition curves gym or weight watchers or AA would be evil. Try harder.
1 KickedinTheDick 2017-11-12
Some are Luciferian. Its different. Some worship Lucifer as the "bringer of light", the gracious angel who went behind the back of a vindictive, authoritarian God and allowed humans to see the truth, to understand the difference of good and evil, to obtain knowledge.
1 WestCoastHippy 2017-11-12
This is how the Luciferian Pamphlet would describe it. Words like vindictive and authoritative, truth, obtain knowledge, are manipulative.
But yes, Satanists shop at Hot Topic. Luciferians sacrifice children. Freemasons do not shop at Hot Topic.
1 bongozim 2017-11-12
I think I know a few brothers that sadly shop at hot topic :/
1 vitadulcedo 2017-11-12
Talmudic Jews created Freemasonry as an offshoot of their cabalism..it’s a way for Satan’s synagogue to maintain a much larger web of power and ultimately its goal is to destroy the Catholic Church
1 ChapelPerilousBooks 2017-11-12
Very true, but it's also a promoted book within a secret society. Albert Pike is a celebrated 33 degree, while it is not required reading it is promoted reading, and those that read it are also promoted.
1 cryptoengineer 2017-11-12
Pike was 33rd in the sub organization he largely created: the southern jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite. He’s not authoritative in any other area, and outside the the US, the general reaction will be “Pike who?”. Conspiratards like to make him out as important. He is not.
1 selfmindcontrol 2017-11-12
Downward star represents Lucifer/Satan falling from heaven:
Isaiah 14:12
How you have fallen from heaven, morning star (Lucifer), son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!
Related: baphomet, goat of mendes, age of Ares, pentagram
Better yet, you can listen to this:
https://youtu.be/2iCLykzJ0d8?list=PL11E33A6AEEB2674F
1 Katayani108 2017-11-12
Interesting enough, it used to be right side up! Eastern star circa 1960's I personally have seen older temples with the blue part of the star definitely facing up as well.
1 bongozim 2017-11-12
Fascinating! the first lamp cover doesn't really show any orientation, but the pin is pretty neat, seems to be from NY, cant say much about the date other than it post dates the OES by at least 50 years. Thanks for sharing.
1 JkRazor12 2017-11-12
UPDATE: I found a picture of the tie. The order of the Eastern star's symbol is an upside down pentagram but the one the Grand Master was wearing was right side up. cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server5800/v9jar2/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/2811/18686/20170615160107_08431.1497647292
1 bongozim 2017-11-12
So, super interesting. I was at a lodge meeting tonight. Apparently, NY uses the OES star "upright" as per the NY 50 year pin. Everywhere else I have been uses it pointed "down"
1 T-D-S 2017-11-12
ah i see your mistake OP .
Freemasons need only 1 thing . the belief in God .
everything else is open to interpretation ..
God to you may not be the God to the person standing beside you , no many view on God is the same .
to some God is a man who created all life , to others hes the spark that started the big bang , to others he was an alien who came to earth and seeded the human race from Apes .. to others hes a mystical being who has no body but can be every where and no where ..
Freemasons study perception of them selves and how the human brain thinks and can be altered to think differently through esoterica (enlightenment )
Ex “Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit (Whom virtue unites, death cannot separate)” ― The Scottish Rite Fourteenth degree
, the secrets of Alchemy , and sacred geometry ( flower of life ) another thing they study is Pythagoras ..
ask any mason here on reddit , i know theres quite a few of them about esoterica , its a bunch of phrases and sayings that change how you view something and quite remarkable too , they refer to it as wisdom of enlightenment .
as for a 5 sided star here is a fun way to learn all about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLffxwRlXcc
i am not a mason but we do have them in town and they willingly speak openly about what they do without giving away secrets .
PS i am not saying there are no masons who worship Satan , there may be but most do not call him Satan , they call him Lucifer and hold him in high honor because he gave the light of knowledge and truth to man while God held man in bondage and darkness , when you see God as a dictator for wanting man to be blind sheep you see Satan ( Lucifer ) as nothing more than a freedom fighter fighting for truth and freedom from a tyrant
1 Gen_Kael 2017-11-12
Wow talk about having the wool pulled over your eyes lol
1 ChapelPerilousBooks 2017-11-12
Turns out, you're wrong. Sorry.
1 MesCannaPsiloSergic 2017-11-12
it's all a diversion, freemasons & satanists alike are not in the seat of evil, they are just playing a role, look elsewhere for the real evil, it's closer than you think.
1 Beaver7530 2017-11-12
Freemasons are closer to Luciferians than Satanists