Its been here as new things come up. Last week there was the flight tracker for the helicopter flights out of McCarren. LV will not be forgotten here, along with 9/11, Sandy Hook and any other false flag we have witnessed

and any other false flag we have witnessed

What makes you so certain Vegas was a false flag?

Seriously?

The changing narrative, the complete lack of any information, the body, the room, the sounds of possible multiple gun shots, reports of shooters in other hotels, the missing hard drive, the spec ops cell charger in the room, the break in of his house, the list goes on and there are more questions than answer's everyday.

But how does any of that translate to "false flag"? It definitely points to negligence, cover-up and possible conspiracy. But aren't false flags supposed to have a purpose? What purpose did this shooting serve? Who are the beneficiaries?

I think it was supposed to be bigger than it was but something didn't go according to plan. The whole thing just seems off.

The biggest thing for me to think it was a set up was paddocks body and how a rifle with its bipod extended was over one of his legs. How would that happen. Also why was there room service for two? Lets not forget the Ellen interview with Jesus Campos and how fucking staged that was.

I have to agree. Something was suppose to go down but didnt happen and now theres this big mess and their story had to change. Except with so little time they made huge mistakes with their alternate story that would have been. So no more questions and no more answers(horseshit).

I'm wondering if that's why Harvey Weinstein got burned. That was too damn convenient but glad that shit is getting exposed.

They sure opened up a big can of worms. All of Hollywood is under immense scrutiny. None are safe and seems whether they are liked or not, theyre being exposed.

I think it was supposed to be bigger than it was but something didn't go according to plan. The whole thing just seems off.

Agreed.

The biggest thing for me to think it was a set up was paddocks body and how a rifle with its bipod extended was over one of his legs. How would that happen.

Yep that was weird.

And why did he shoot himself in the first place, minutes before police even arrived on the floor? Why the two single shots heard on the audio?

Also, why did he need to break open the window in 32-134? He had the exact same vantage point one pane over in 32-135.

And why was the adjoining door closed and locked from the 134 side? Did the wind blow it shut? Was he ever even in there? Was it booked under his name? Why did he need the extra room in the first place?

How were police "100% confident that there were no other people in the room during the shooting" within just 48 hours of the incident, when the shooting stopped before police arrived and there are no hallway cameras?

Did he really drive back and forth to Mesquite 5 times (for a minimum of 10 hours of drive time) on the day of the shooting?

Why did this antisocial loner have multiple cellphones?

I could go on all day.

Also why was there room service for two?

Someone on an LVA forum theorized that 32-134 was booked under Marilou Danley's name, and that he ordered for two in order to make it seem less strange that one person would be occupying two rooms alone. That would fit with early housekeeping reports that claimed he was in there talking to himself/pretending to talk to someone else.

Lets not forget the Ellen interview with Jesus Campos and how fucking staged that was.

Oh don't even get me started on that. Beyond bizarre. I still can't get past how Campos and Sheriff Lombardo have two completely conflicting versions of the pre-shooting timeline (with Lombardo's obviously fake version being the better of the two).

So yeah, something is 100% screwy with Vegas. I've spent hours days of my life researching, transcribing, discussing, etc., hoping to make sense of it, but it just doesn't make sense. That said, I'm not yet willing to converge on it being a "false flag." There are still lots of other possibilities in play.

I think it was an FBI sting gone bad. Perhaps they were setting up paddock on gun running charges. Trying to get him to do terrorism when they lost control.

Isn't a false flag when the narrative attributes the act to someone other than the group responsible? It could simply be a distraction, and it would still qualify as a false flag if the "lone shooter" thing isn't actually true.

The narrative is supposed to create fear. The benefactors are the defense and weapons industry.

Wonder how the sales of weapons is doing? Not something I ever check, but sure would be an interesting graph to dissect.

Directly after the shooting, arms manufacturers and security manufacturers(ones that make backscatter machines specifically) stock went up.

It's kind of like Grand Theft Auto V, but in real life... mess up the competition and your investments are booming.

Just like real elite decisions and chessboard politics.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/gun-opinions-havent-changed-since-las-vegas-shooting-poll-finds/

Sandy Hook, 9/11, Florida, and all the other ones were so clearly inaccurate that it is hard to keep caring. I mean it sucks, but the reality is it doesn't matter. We have no power over those who do these things. WE barely have power to keep ourselves sane. In the end we pick and choose our battles. Right now we can't discuss vegas, because even if the truth came out it wouldn't matter.

It's hard to disagree with this but, at the same time, the constant pursuit of the truth and attempting to spread that knowledge among others is the only attempt we have to maybe one day not be living in a dystopian state.

Oh yea for sure I am not saying believe the lie. I am just saying all we need to know is they lied to us. AT the point the details are useless. It is like the JFK papers. Even with a full release I would never for a single second believe a document held for so long.

If someone asks we know the main points. That a helicopter, and footage a full gunfight occurring the hotel exist. Both facts prove the american public was lied too. Not to mention Campos etc.

The majority of the american public probably doesn't believe the official Vegas narrative as is. In my book thats progress.

Wow! What an apathetic viewpoint that is.

Who says "We can't discuss vegas?"

The truth should come out and the truth does matter.

This guy Onivivo, watch out for his comments.

Hey guys: Why'd the chicken cross the road?

A: Because he realized he had power to do so.

Oldmoldy your point is carried by ignorance. You answer Why with how. Which shows that you can't discuss Vegas. You can try, but it be like you discussing any other topic, pointless. You have no use to this cause. You make it worse by muddying the already muddy waters. The majority of people on this subreddit understand that Vegas was dirty(metaphorically speaking) (please tell me i don't have to explain metaphors to you). Point is unless some more evidence comes out that is tangible everything is hear say. Which we already went threw when the shooting happened over a month ago.

WE know we were lied too, and we aren't happy about. Now keep you ignorant tiny shitty thoughts to yourself.

Hahaha

Let's see how long the above comment takes to be deleted by the poster.

Just in case Onivivo deletes his "...ignorant tiny shitty thoughts.." reply, I have the screenshot for a later date.

Thanks for playing the game of life.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2012/07/22/1112509/-The-Gentleperson-s-Guide-to-Forum-Spies

Jesus Christ you let some Opinion editorial be your argument here? Days later! Why would I delete the comment where I schooled your ignorant ass? I was worried about your intellect, and clearly you need some help. I would prescribe keeping your ignorant tiny shitty thoughts to yourself.

This. The fact is we've been lied to about all these events. If people don't wake up to that fact what good does it do to pick apart the little pieces?

Please, don't believe everything you see on TV. There is a reason why people are moving on and looking away. There is literally nothing to see there.

More that there's nothing to discuss because we were given the story whether true or not and there's really no way to get any more info at this point.

It's not that we've been quiet, it's that shit keeps hitting the fan and most LV Shooting posts don't get enough votes.

You know why. All these naysayers prowling about downvoting and trying to start empty arguments.

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Debbie Lusignan, aka The SaneProgressive, worked as a nurse for 15 years. She explains why none of the victims are believable:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/XAlfWv5uoWmy/

More that there's nothing to discuss because we were given the story whether true or not and there's really no way to get any more info at this point.