Why isn't the Franklin Cover-up the biggest scandal in American history?
307 2017-11-14 by Question_History
For people unaware of the cover-up:
Here's an excellent video to start. It is very dark, and involves child sex trafficking and blackmail. It implicates the highest levels of politicians, including George H.W. Bush.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b61iIQCapY&t=62s
Here's Paul Bonacci (who claims he was prostituted for high level politicians in DC) giving his statement. Personally, I believe him. Bonacci was able to accurately describe rooms and arrangements inside the Whitehouse that weren't publicly available. If you've heard of Johnny Gosch (the boy that went missing in 1982), Bonacci claims he met him whilst inside the prostitution ring. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW2U5L17lDQ
LA FBI Chief Ted Gunderson's speech on the cover up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST1zqhCqHW4
Investigators, including CIA Director William Colby were allegedly killed for digging to deep. Some investigators were literally blown up, never seen again. Some children testifying were killed as well.
Either way you look at this scandal, children were abused, evidence was covered up, and people were killed.
72 comments
1 Wildinvalid 2017-11-14
Time heals all outrage. Plus no internet
1 Singularity2soon 2017-11-14
I second that, had this occurred in the internet age, things would have gone differently. Or not.
1 DoublePlusGoodly 2017-11-14
Came here to say this too.
1 innerpeice 2017-11-14
look at Las Vegas shooting, Pizzagate , Uranium 1 and election rigging, already falling off the radar of a lot of folks. the only way it catches the people’s attention consistently is to have it their face consistently.
1 Xaviermgk 2017-11-14
I doubt that is true for people that have had loved ones murdered.
1 CaptainApollyon 2017-11-14
the hysterical Christian mothers were right what have we done :(
1 perfect_pickles 2017-11-14
was amusing to watch Newt defending Roy Moore, long gone are Newt's WJC witchhunting days.
1 ObligatoryHandle 2017-11-14
Because the only person actually convicted of sexual abuse in the whole scandal is the source of all the sexual abuse accusations.
1 Question_History 2017-11-14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1qnZwgQCB0
Have you watched his deposition? His mind has been split. How do you explain the way he accurately depicted arrangements, rooms and people in the Whitehouse that wasn't readily available to the public?
What about Johnny Gosch? The children who were going to testify but were killed? CIA director William Colby?
1 LordPotsmoke 2017-11-14
Seen Cathy O'Brian's story? That's a hell of a book. She also accurately depicts many places and you should hear her claims.
1 ObligatoryHandle 2017-11-14
So, in addition to being completely untrustworthy, he also has an unreliable grip on reality?
1 Eoooiny 2017-11-14
Why did you ignore most of his question? Maybe sit this one out kid if you have no idea what you are talking about.
1 ObligatoryHandle 2017-11-14
Anybody who believes Paul Bonacci is not really worth the time arguing with.
1 Hambone_Malone 2017-11-14
Don't forget Gary Caradori. Had his plane blown up with evidence he got from Chicago.
1 YesImaSocialist 2017-11-14
you don't know much about this topic and you are going to mislead redditors who are new to the Franklin scandal. Gary Caradori, the respected investigator, was about to blow the case wide open and he was murdered. There is documented testimony from numerous children about the abuses they suffered and the planes they were flown on. Multiple kids specifically said Larry King was involved. There is wayyy more testimony out there than just Paul Bonacci's testimony. Nick Bryant has a great book on the topic with lots of sources printed in full in the back as evidence.
1 ObligatoryHandle 2017-11-14
No, there isn't testimony. There is rumor and innuendo and a bunch of dead people who can't and didn't testify being used as proof that a cover-up occurred.
1 Occams-shaving-cream 2017-11-14
Would you say that committing sexual abuse is more or less common among people who have been abused?
1 Question_History 2017-11-14
A lot more common
1 ObligatoryHandle 2017-11-14
Would you say his sitting in jail at the time he made the accusations makes him more or less credible as a witness?
1 Occams-shaving-cream 2017-11-14
Well that doesn’t add up.
1 ObligatoryHandle 2017-11-14
Of course it doesn't, because it damages the credibility of the storyteller. But you want this story to be real, since it supports your worldview, so you ignore things like that.
1 Occams-shaving-cream 2017-11-14
No, I just hadn’t read all the details:
1 kaziratah 2017-11-14
That is entirely wrong. There are various sources supporting the same story- even arrests related to people surrounding the story. And what should convince any unbiased person looking into this is all the mysterious deaths of investigators/journalists/law enforcement people that were digging into it.
Assuming you're not here for the sole purpose of discrediting this story- look up the "finders" article in DC- Washington post 1992 I believe. They reported that D.C. Police raided a warehouse w computers/CP/sets for taking pics/receipts of international transactions. They were called to the warehouse because people called police saying they saw children being carried out of the building to vans. They had two articles on it then a follow up explaining that the three letter organizations took over the investigation. No word about it after that. I'll see if I can find the article and add it to this comment. Since then a bunch of sources backed this story
1 nebuchadrezzar 2017-11-14
One of the victims won a judgement in court, I thought.
1 dreamorpheus 2017-11-14
Paul Bonacci won $1 million dollars in a lawsuit against Larry King.
1 ObligatoryHandle 2017-11-14
Yeah, a default judgment because Larry King was broke and in jail so he didn't contest it. And it gets used repeatedly as proof that he's guilty. Funny how nobody thinks the perjury convictions count for anything, though.
1 nebuchadrezzar 2017-11-14
Because the trial was obvious bullshit. There was never anything to explain why these children needed to be flown repeatedly by private plane from Nebraska to DC.
Here's the state senator in charge of the investigation after the two deaths related to the case:
Lawrence Schmit quickly issued a report denouncing the grand jury’s conclusion. Despite his objections, two months after his report was issued, the committee was shut down. According to Schmit,
“The message was not lost on most politicians in Nebraska. I think the message that was delivered was if any committee every tries to conduct a thorough investigation again, this same thing will happen… It has shaken my faith in the institutions of government.”
1 ObligatoryHandle 2017-11-14
You want to call something "obvious bullshit", yet will consider Paul Bonacci and John DeCamp credible. That's just totally baffling.
1 nebuchadrezzar 2017-11-14
Forget bonacci and decamp.
Did senator Schmidt also lack credibility?
What alternate explanation was offered for King to take planeloads of foster kids to DC?
1 ObligatoryHandle 2017-11-14
What makes you think politicians are better equipped to run criminal investigations that the people actually charged with that job? Cops and prosecutors are all in on it, I'm sure.
At the federal level, it's clowns running political operations. Public stunts and smears of their opponents. But the people at the state level have better resources and access? They aren't motivated by attaining power?
It's a show. Entertainment. Like this documentary.
1 nebuchadrezzar 2017-11-14
Sorry, I wasn't saying politicians make better investigators. I was asking if sen. Schmit also lacked credibility when he claimed there was a cover-up?
Also, for what reason do you think King needed to ferry planeloads of foster kids back and forth from Nebraska to DC?
1 ObligatoryHandle 2017-11-14
Does he need to lack credibility to have be tricked, conned, or otherwise duped?
1 nebuchadrezzar 2017-11-14
So your theory is that this is all an elaborate setup to accomplish something negative towards Republican bigwwigs. Those kids testified in spite of enormous pressure against them, maybe they were also being threatened if they didn't testify.
Did you find the explanation for flying planeloads of foster kids to DC? There must be a simple, innocuous explanationif you're correct. AFAIK, that was never explained.
Also, would it really be that surprising if a guy like Bush, that got busted bringing gay prostitutes into the white house, also liked to attend sex parties?
1 ObligatoryHandle 2017-11-14
I think that some Republican bigwigs saw an opportunity to tear down their opponents within the party. Which would be an exploitation of a tragedy to score political power. And that there was enormous pressure put on these kids to testify. Which is a good way to get the story twisted.
1 nebuchadrezzar 2017-11-14
It's odd then. that they only ever mentioned enormous pressure NOT to testify.
So what is the innocent explanation for flying all those kids back and forth to DC? Obviously if this was an elaborate hoax, good enough to convince a fair number of people, King would have mentioned the real reason for ferrying foster kids to DC on private planes.
1 fuckingshitman11 2017-11-14
Pedophilia is discredited while the media plays fast and loose with any and all rape allegations against random straight white males (swm.)
1 Ransom68 2017-11-14
See I think that the Franklin Scandal is so horrible and bizarre that people can't wrap their head around it. Also its one of those things that challenges everyones belief system, and most people do not want to have their belief systems challenged. So we ignore the tough things in the US and focus on stupid stuff like reality TV, collusion, and if overplayed game players stand or sit during the national anthem.
1 momosalemur 2017-11-14
Yeah you don't go from la la land to the president raping boys overnight. You either need concrete proof or a series of steps to get there. Personally I believe them somewhat but the evidence is still sketchy imo
1 Stormtech5 2017-11-14
I agree that the mind finds this scandal so horrible that its hard for people to consider or imagine.
Personally i believe aliens working with our government is highly likely... I believe 911 was a lie and the towers were demolished with explosives....
But when i first watched Conspiracy of Silence and looked into The Finders, i started becoming horrified and even scared for my families safety... CIA running a pedo operation for high level people and then covering the whole thing up, really helped me realize how there is going to be no truths coming from our government and that the USA along with most other countries were deeply controlled by CIA and others and how fucked up the situation really is.
Tldr: the finders scared me enough to stop researching into it, not even Dulce base scares me to the extent of a secretive organization (cia) controls the USA
1 ManSoAdmired 2017-11-14
"So we ignore the tough things in the US and focus on stupid stuff like reality TV, collusion, and if overplayed game players stand or sit during the national anthem."
One of these things is not like the others.
1 DoingTimeOnMapleDr 2017-11-14
After reading that book, I was at a family gathering telling everyone about it, after a couple minutes of talking I could see them looking at me like I was insane, so I said, you just have to read this shit for yourself.
Gave it to my uncle, he believed every word in it.
1 no1113 2017-11-14
Because TPTB and the MSM have covered it up and killed the press on it. That's why.
1 LeBrons_Mom 2017-11-14
The old tired and true "this story is ridiculous and only conspiracy theorists believe it" approach.
1 no1113 2017-11-14
smh. True.
1 Zac1245 2017-11-14
I actually have met Larry King and know his present whereabouts. He’s out of prison and working a retail job. Worked with a friend of mine until she got fired for being uncomfortable around him. Odd guy I have to say.
1 Knowledgefist 2017-11-14
Is he super quiet?
1 Zac1245 2017-11-14
No, he talked all the time. I wasn’t like friends with the guy but did see and talk to hime a few times. I was friends with a few people who worked there and would go there for lunch. I also would help out when they were short staffed. I actually didn’t put two and two together until another guy that worked there figured it out.
King once asked me if I used to live in Nebraska because I looked like the “kid who used to mow his lawn for a time”.
1 TheoremUKChannel 2017-11-14
thats some scary shit right there. i wont pollute your mind, with what he was probably thinking
1 Hambone_Malone 2017-11-14
Dude, what the fuck? I heard he worked at a BMW dealership in Virginia. I have so many questions dude, I don't know where to start. I honestly can't believe that motherfucker is breathing air and just out and about with a regular job.
Did you read Paul Bonnaci's testimony or see his interviews?
What made your friend uncomfortable?
What kind of stuff did he say to you?
Did people eventually confront him about his past?
I saw a voat thread that had some church flyer and he was some choir leader or some shit. They were confronted about him and the removed him from the flyer. Or something like that. Was he involved in a church that you know of?
PM me with some info on his whereabouts if you feel comfortable. There are Patriots in Virginia that have no love for chomos and could possibly serve justice no.matyer how late it may be.
1 Question_History 2017-11-14
This guy's the man^
1 Zac1245 2017-11-14
Shoot me a PM
1 ajutar 2017-11-14
Larry King, the man at the center of Franklin, likes to sing Opera with kids nowadays.
Hmm...
1 nebuchadrezzar 2017-11-14
Just from personal experience, when people are confronted with a shocking discovery, like child abuse, they often just refuse to accept it. They are unreasonable and even focus their anger on the victims. People just want to be comfortable. The best way to make it ok for people to accept the idea that somebody did something terrible is to first denigrate or demonize the perpetrator in some cartoonish way. Then it's ok to fort people to attribute horrible actions to them, and they will even do so enthusiastically.
Also, it involved one of the most powerful and intimidating political families in US history.
1 ashlerrr 2017-11-14
Basically, cognitive dissonance.
1 ProfPyncheon 2017-11-14
Not to mention John DeCamp knew about Sandusky years before the Penn State scandal broke out.
1 GameTheory429 2017-11-14
Wait whaaat?
1 DoingTimeOnMapleDr 2017-11-14
Graham Spanier was at the University of Nebraska serving as Chancellor when all the Franklin stuff was going on, then just happened to be at PSU as the President during the Sandusky scandal.
1 GameTheory429 2017-11-14
Da fuck is this guy now? The Sandusky shit always sounded too elaborate to be an isolated incident...
1 DoingTimeOnMapleDr 2017-11-14
He got charged with 1 count of child endangerment. He's probably hanging at Molesta's hot dog stand in Hawaii now.
1 ansultares 2017-11-14
Because of the wealthy Nebraskan whose name is scrubbed from that unreleased documentary.
1 getphysical_ 2017-11-14
Because the press is controlled by the CIA of the state.
1 jordW0 2017-11-14
How much weed are you lot smoking?
1 montrev 2017-11-14
try it. govt lied to you about it being evil.
1 montrev 2017-11-14
jeff gannon
1 ubervongoober 2017-11-14
You believe Paul Bonacci LOL.
1 Question_History 2017-11-14
I believe there was a prostitution ring involving many politicians, journalists and law enforcement officers, and Paul Bonacci was apart of it.
To dismiss the Franklin scandal entirely is absurd.
1 bloodfist45 2017-11-14
I️ know who took Johnny Gorsh. He took two girls in Iowa as well.
1 locofspades 2017-11-14
Lyric and Elizabeth in 2012? As a parent of a young child, and living minutes away from evansdale, that story is chilling as fuck. Stay safe people...
1 bloodfist45 2017-11-14
Yep
1 locofspades 2017-11-14
Did you ever call the tipline n let em know? As far as i remember, the case was never solved. I still see the lyric and elizabeth bumper stickers from time to time. Those little girls deserve justice.
1 bloodfist45 2017-11-14
I let the waterloo FBI field office know.
1 locofspades 2017-11-14
Thats good to hear, didnt even know we had an fbi office here in the 'loo lol.
1 bloodfist45 2017-11-14
It’s up by village inn on ridgeway and kimball. You’d know the building if you saw it, it’s too secure to be in that area.
1 locofspades 2017-11-14
Thanks for the info, learn something new everyday lol
1 Singularity2soon 2017-11-14
I second that, had this occurred in the internet age, things would have gone differently. Or not.
1 Xaviermgk 2017-11-14
I doubt that is true for people that have had loved ones murdered.
1 dreamorpheus 2017-11-14
Paul Bonacci won $1 million dollars in a lawsuit against Larry King.
1 ObligatoryHandle 2017-11-14
Yeah, a default judgment because Larry King was broke and in jail so he didn't contest it. And it gets used repeatedly as proof that he's guilty. Funny how nobody thinks the perjury convictions count for anything, though.