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You dont have to. It's the videos themselves. Look at the channel, it has month by month videos of kids but no may video. Just theorizing that it could be a form of display/communication.
I do think these videos are incredibly weird and watched by millions of kids and pervy adults but I do not really buy this whole coded language theory yet.
So since these videos are watched by alot of kids, the target market seems to be around the toddler age, so I believe so it's probably on their parents mobile phone. I see this a lot in the supermarket I work in. So my theory is that alot of these comments could actually just be made by kids scrolling down to the comment section. You have to tap only once in any comment to open up the keyboard so it is quite easy for a child to post a comment.
My evidence for this is that alot of these so called coded keywords are letters right beside each other on the keyboard.
Take a look at the comments in this link: https://youtu.be/v1RBbOKC_CQ Most of these comments look like button mashing from toddlers.
If further evidence comes out, I stand corrected but I really do believe that this is the case, especially with the more popular ones.
Yeah, I definitely think this could be just a bunch of homeade videos linked to parents accounts which children are using. I'm just putting a theory out there based on simply the large number of videos I saw of children being filmed in off putting ways+how the videos and channel owners just seem to fetishize everything somehow. We need to comb the comments more before anything will be known for sure
Yeah I agree. There is some weird videos out there man and so many! Kids are definitely getting exploited one way or the other.
YouTube doesn't seem to be blocking them even though they said they would recently. What the fuck is up with that?
It just seems like such an inefficient way of doing it. You would think they could come up with a better way to communicate and sell than posting videos on youtube.
I think most of the elsa phenomena is explicable by unscrupulous creators exploiting a strange facet of childhood psychology. In particular, the psychology of young children for which have been subjected to youtube and ipads as childrearing aids. That psychology is going to be twisted both by the forces of neglect, the sick messaging of the mass media of our culture, and the instant reward feedback dependance and short attention span engineered in us when we use these devices and the web.
Anyway you got all these fucked up forces colliding and then people exploiting the whole mess for profit because that's the force driving the whole disaster in the first place. And the result looks really horrific and fucked up because because we're in some late stage capitalism shit now and this is holding a mirror up to the whole pile.
But I do not think what we are seeing is the tip of any wider
conspiracy iceberg. The thing looming under the surface isn't a vast plot, it is the terminal sickness of our own society.
How is not efficient? It's pretty anonymous and is very hard to detect.. If this is true it's obviously been going on a long time unnoticed because the comments can easily just look like dumb kids on the face of it.. The thing is not many adults are looking at these videos because adults are focused on adult content, what better place to hide?
I just mean why even produce videos at all? Why not just message each other on message boards or PM's or anything else? What do the videos provide that another platform or method wouldn't?
Are you talking about the cartoon videos themselves or the people commenting? The cartoon videos themselves are made for huge profits obviously, I'm not sold on the idea that the people making the Elsa videos are necessarily involved in a pedophile ring. I'm suggesting that pedos may have found a way to communicate discreetly using the comment sections of these videos as cover.
but I do not really buy this whole coded language theory yet
Pizzagate used coded and to us random looking out of place language as well. Sure, some of the YT comments may be randomly typed characters, some kids watch these videos for sure as well, but I do really feel like we're generally here on to something big.
Can confirm my daughter has accidentally left several YT comments. But - there definitely are people posting creepy comments on there, I remember some on a vid of a little girl being chained to a bed and prof pics of old foreign men commenting "love" "more<3" etc
Nope, that's one of the creepy characteristics of the videos. Not a single one had a comment or more than like three or four views. Just a video of a kid, the date as a title and nothing else. About 1/3 of them are in a setting with other individuals but the focus of the camera is always on the kid.
If you're right about the language, rather than wasting time watching videos, translating comments, and trying to figure out some code that may not exist.. why don't you just ask them using the translator?
I mean, this is literally the first logical thing I thought of, why the fuck would you waste all this effort before even straight messaging them?
The fucking point is to do the easy thing first, rather than looking for codes and shit. They are foreigners, maybe in their culture something about this is normal, and no one with a western ideology has bothered to tell them in their own language why it is disturbing.
You're problem on both ends is that you're assuming you have the answer, and you're working from there. I've given you an incredibly simple hypothesis, rather than dismiss it, test it. How hard would it be to create a cut/paste translation of a simple question, that you simply message to each video creator you've linked?
It would probably take less time than you've spent watching any of the videos.
Words get translated, but how the language is actually used doesn't always translate. The order of the words, etc. The less you understand the language, the more likely you are to find oddities.
And let's face it, no one on this sub, that I've seen anyways, has been trying to find something as complex as cyphers. The dude I replied to says "they said May, but there's no posts in May, so maybe it's a kid's name".. I mean what the fuck. What kind of fucking logic is that.
See that group of guys standing on the corner? It appears that they're selling illicit drugs based on how seemingly random cars stop at the corner and interact with them for a bit before driving away.
Now, the only way we can figure out if this is really happening, is for you to go ask those guys on the corner.
Because, if they ARE selling crack, they're definitely going to discuss it with a complete complete stranger and your life wouldn't be in danger at all!
You've got the best ideas bro! Maybe you should be a private Dick!
People like this guy scare me, because it's a sure thing that whatever we're observing isn't going to last long, it's going to go away and then we're going to have to start right over, all because people like this guy need to try to act tough and message the people directly.
The original comment admits that they likely do message each other! The person you're replying to is ignoring how drug stings work, you walk up and ask for some drugs, if they give you drugs, boom.. jail.
Guess what? You message someone with a strange comment on one of those fucking videos? You're at least probably put on a list somewhere. These videos aren't new(over a year I've seen posts about them), they haven't gone away.. and there's likely agencies across the planet using them as a honey pot.
But, if the OP thinks that the comment section is being used by weirdoes, then do like the police do, if you're right, bring it to the police. It isn't like these people have just been discovered. Fuck man, use your head.
This isn't new, there's been posts about this for over a year. Yes, they are being observed, and only complete idiots could somehow upload these videos and image they aren't being observed when this shit has hit the mainstream media multiple times.
How do police busy drug dealers? Your comment is wilfully ignorant, you act like you're buying drugs.
But in this case, after a year of these videos getting attention, if you act like "you're buying the drugs" in this case.. those comments are almost certainly by agencies across the planet. It's a honey trap. At least I hope it is.
But no, people aren't going to think "they're onto me!" if they get a message. OP even admitted this is how they conduct business. Mainstream media has been talking about it, this shit has been going on over a year.. maybe people need to do something about it, rather than just talk about it.
I mean, depending what they message.. the only reason I haven't sent messages myself is because this looks like a honey pot. I mean, why else are the videos left up, other than more being produced each day..
When I found out the FBI was actually in control of the kinds of websites that are obviously illegal, I decided I want nothing to do with any of it. I don't trust our government, but I trust them even less when they're trying to bait anyone looking into this shit.
This just screams to me something trying to catch perverts.. but this guy has found out what language they are talking, but more concerned with finding a code, then asking questions..
The question no one gets in trouble for? "What the fuck is wrong with you?" Pretty sure they can ask that without going to jail.
We don't want to scare them away before we know what is going on. What is messaging them really going to do other risk any progress that Bay have been made?
Umm, why would messaging them scare them away, when OP is claiming this is how they are doing business? Messaging them would be the simplest way to find out if they are right.. and isn't the whole point to get this shit removed? Scare them away! Fuck.
What you are arguing is "but if I message them, maybe I'll find out I'm wrong" and I say what's wrong with that?
The question no one gets in trouble for? "What the fuck is wrong with you?" Pretty sure he can ask that without going to jail.
You're literally suggesting sending "What the fuck is wrong with you" to these people, you're telling me that won't scare them away?
If we can be 100% sure of their code and can manage to message them without giving away that it's us, then yes, messaging them could be a way to get info. But right now it's way too fucking risky.
And trust me, I'd love to be wrong about all of this but it's pretty clear that's not the case. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing, we're literally all just trying to help children here.
This isn't a new problem, this has been posted here for over a year.. you think messaging them is going to scare them off? They can simply go online and see people are onto them. Or see mainstream media that's reported stories about their videos.
YouTube kills their channel, they can make another one. They don't rely on subscribers, just that the title pulls them into a queue.
I've seen multiple posts from at least a year ago where people commented that they reported the videos to the FBI or police. Do you really think law enforcement isn't onto this, or do you think this is some new thing? Literally, at least a year I've seen people talking about this shit.
It's time people stop just talking about it, and actually do something.
Court would dismiss it if you could prove you weren't intending to actually TAKE the product. Commenting would merely generate a response. Strangers would be suspicious of.
I thought about this, and also thought it was weird to use comment section when you can private message. However it just dawned on me that you’re better off using “in your face” approach rather than direct messages, as private messages aren’t really private, fbi nsa can probably easily access that and then there is direct contact, conversation and proof. This way it’s so brazen and in your face, yet looks so innocent even like a typo, or a bot, that most people don’t even look back twice. This is my theory, don’t know if it holds water.
it doesn't hold water. no amature plaintext riddles or whatever are going to ever provide better opsec than hard crypto, which is trivially easy to implement.
I’m a techy, not a coder, but dab in many tech fields. I don’t even really know much about what you just said. You think these morons who think kidnapping and trafficking of innocent children would have the brains to figure it out?
He's pointing out that saying "'liberal' sex tourism" makes you sound like a dumbass Donald cult member. Not a joke at all. You sound deranged as fuck.
He doesn’t mean “liberal” as in the political affiliation, he means “liberal” as in it’s actual definition..... like saying they have a very free and open sex tourism market. His comment had absolutely nothing to do with political views.
Jew hater. Jew hater? For every actual anti-semite in conspiracy communities, there's a thousand people that just think Zionism is inherently evil-you know, 17th century colonialism in the 21st century.
Lovely how when you attack one side it automatically makes you a supporter of the other in that party's eyes. I would suggest sticking to constructive criticism instead of being a dick to people, they tend to listen when the comment isn't riddled with vitriol.
I disagree. I've reached an understanding with many users here that would make comments very heavily steeped in political partisanship. If you approach it politely and can establish that you are not on the typical "opposing team", listening can very much occur.
I've actually had the same experience here for the most part. Judging by the numerous petty arguments littering almost every post though, that seems to be the exception and not the norm.
Oh dear, so you also don’t know the meaning of the word liberal. It means “willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.”
You're surprised someone on The_Donald2.0 took "liberal" to mean "liberal"? Definitely not opposed to that interpretation, but look at what this place has turned into. I used to lurk here just to read some funny conspiracy stuff. Now it's completely full of propaganda. My apologies.
He's pointing out that saying "'liberal' sex tourism" makes you sound like a dumbass Donald cult member. Not a joke at all. You sound deranged as fuck.
Idk using "conservative" as a slander doesn't make me think the person using it is an actual communist that wants to nationalize the entire economy and live in a dictatorship. There are spectrums for these things, ambiguities in language. You can make fun of liberals and be liberal in some ways, and the same with conservatives. Stereotypes are funny.
I checked one of the links and people are leaving comments. I can't blame them however because this causes a visceral reaction. This makes me incredibly sick and I am suffering with feelings of powerlessness. I want to leave comments too but I know it's not going to help the children. I don't know what we should do but something has to happen. And f*** YouTube for protecting sickos.
My belief stands that these are just random kids typing, to be honest. Millions of young children watch these videos and most likely might make slip ups on their keyboards.
No, I'm actually being honest. There's an interesting video done by this series called Down the Rabbit Hole and he elaborates on this in great detail. But I'm definitely open to this theory and if there's more evidence that comes up over time, I'll definitely listen in.
Don't get yourself in too much trouble. I'm serious -- if you are on to something, the bad guys might find you first. Note how that Ryan guy was threatened by James Alefantis. These people play dirty.
Haven't seen this mentioned, have not been following this super close, but it makes sense to me that they are using you tube to communicate because of the FBI having control of the deep web servers? reddit! so do they think they cant trust the usual places they communicate now? Just a thought.
You can just message people on YouTube, I don't know why they think you need to use the comment section, when they can send private messages.. I think this stuff is still up because the FBI are probably investigating it or trying to use in to catch pervs.
Well obviously the theory is that a pedo comments to advertise himself to other pedo's who will then message them.. How are they supposed to be PM each other before they know the accounts involved?
Private messages are as accessible to authorities as public comments are, but generally of much greater interest by the same. The evil among us are not stupid, and they're experts in that old game of cat 'n mouse.
As has been mentioned, you need a starting point. How do you know that once someone has posted a public comment that they're not continuing the conversation in a more private manner, even outside of YT's PM option.
You can't PM someone you don't know exists. So you make one of these weird comments and wait for someone to PM you, then you take the rest of your conversation "offline."
That's likely right, and it's likely that if you message the person making the comments, you're likely messaging the FBI or some other agency across the planet..
This seems like an obvious honey pot, and besides it being difficult for YouTube to censor when there's so much content uploaded per minute.. I imagine this far along (this isn't a new problem), multiple agencies across the planet are likely using this shit in an ongoing investigation.
If the FBI were in control, there wouldn't be so many of these videos, and new ones added every day. Also they wouldn't leave it on the YouTube kids section, whoever is responsible for leaving this stuff up knows the psychological damage it could do to a kid that watches it, and they're okay with that.
You have more faith in the FBI and their good intentions than I do.
Also, almost all of the problems with YouTube that I see voiced here everyday, has to do with their censorship. You can automate something that detects if music that is copywritten is used, and they can automate what is removed based on complaints..
But what does that lead to? How many posts have you seen about people's channels being demonetized or removed? Look up how many hours of YouTube videos are uploaded per minute.. I'm not sure what's accurate, but I'm finding between 60-300 hours of video are uploaded per minute.
So what do you expect YouTube to do? Hire millions of people to watch reports of YouTube violations, that's videos of hours per minute? They obviously have an issue that isn't easy to solve..
I don't know what the answer is, I don't know if there is one.. I just think it isn't as simple as people here try to make it sound.
I see what you mean, but the fact that anyone here can easily find dozens, even hundreds of these videos and channels within minutes... Like it if one YouTube employee searched for this shit they'd find it, it's obviously been brought to their attention but this shit isn't getting any easier to find. I don't know it just seems strange to me.
It is strange, don't get me wrong. But we also don't know if there's hundreds of videos or hundreds of thousands. We don't know how many are posted per day. Likely, if a channel gets removed, they just make a new one.. they don't depend on subscribers, just that the title gets fed into a playlist.
I think this is a complex problem, but I've seen posts about this well over a year ago the worst shit that people have said, videos of scat and other extreme shit, I've never actually seen those videos, so I'm not sure if YouTube removed them, or if they never existed and it was just a way to try to make the complaint more extreme.
But I don't watch these videos while logged in, I imagine this far in, there must be agencies across the globe looking into this. I remember posts where people said they reported this shit to the FBI. They absolutely know about this shit. If there's a legit issue here, I expect to read about a huge bust.
Can you post more information on the translation method? I can build a bookmarklet to do the translation automatically... BTW I checked most of the links in your post and couldn't find a shred of evidence to support what you said, for some reason...
Keep looking, trust me. I'll admit, some of the links are definitely just home videos that got I mixed up clicking through all the gibberish. But look for the ones that just have dates for titles in particular.
Redundant language. It was a video of a young naked boy(4-6) who had both arms tied with ropes so they were loosely outstretched to poles maybe a foot away from him. It was outside in a muddy field and it looked set in asia. The kid looked dirty and seemed to be trying to beg with the people filming/off camera. It was only maybe 20 seconds long. I found it off one of the elsagate videos after I clicked a channel which had a very wierd surgery video. One of the commenters on that video(in gibberish) had the cp on his channel.
Some dude replied in French to a comment on this video
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The translation via google translate was pretty strange (especially in the context of the video)
wish you a good idea for the pleasure of contacting you for the post was made by the post of head of the news department of R or read to you i am on vacation and i am on vacation and see you soon on vacation two and that you are better and that I do not know a problem for the continuation of our interview of this message is for the post that you all very well to you too wish you a good time and see you on vacation and I can not more messagesHello I'm doing the house post and I can not get any emails can not contain your answer I'm not home yet to see you looking to read you or you hear me allow me to. Dad and I wish you a good holiday end of the house and that you have a problem with the moment I went By the pleasure of seeing you again soon Étienne I wish you a very good weekend and looking for a position of te see on holiday in
So this channel "littleboy Adam" is the primary channel I've been focusing on for vids, as it seems to have a lot. It looks like the vidoes could take place in thailand. I've seen "regular" seemingly adult user comment thing like "hey im back" and then little boy adam would do some wierd shit like "hi hi hi :)". What if these users vacation in thailand and use this channel as a hub for communication?
Sounds like someone just kept hitting the auto suggest on their keyboard and made up a story 😂
Example : the first thing I read and made sure is that the best way to get better at it is to try and get the bus before you go to bed and then go to work heaps more than you could do with a big hug each week or two at the same time it is important for us to scan your email address and password to your email address and password and password to access your email address and password for access
It's been the past year or something and I hope you have to replace the people who go through people's profiles of people who are interested to go North and fight for the shooting of a sudden decide something I can remember dumb bullshit like the person you have any dishes or silverware and tell me to get to all of people are getting a little bit more of people are annoyed with me and saying the woman who don't have to reply if they see people here realize it to my knowledge of the one thing that will make sure I can go check out.
I just kept hitting the last word on my predictive text and it almost made sense in parts before going gibberish.
I particularly liked this part:
I hope you have to replace the people who go through people's profiles of people who are interested to go North and fight for the shooting
If you want to have a talk about gun show review the radio station and embolden its own insurance companies are the members only one of the first amendment grants and it would all be able to work with a list of veterans in the Fire Dept and what wars they served in a fight for you to wonder out loud who would get the truck.
Here's mine: I am sure you will be a good man to the right to the end and he will always have a good job and he is the only person I can find and you will have a good time and aggravation a little more to do you think about that it will come out with your own house you can get it right away from you all of us will have you a good time to get to know you are a great friend
Man he sounds like a catch - good man til the end, good job, the only person you can find and you'll have a good time, and IT WILL COME WITH YOUR OWN HOUSE 😍😍😍💯💯💯👌👌👌👀
The way you do know I'm a little too much power of attorney to represent me in your blood bro please enter the code to your email address that you have a look and feel of a week to chill when you get the thing you can only use on that flexing his battering the first time in a way that you are not barbaric'the first time I had to get a duplicate it was an auto reply I was wondering what happened here is a bit confused with it because it was an auto reply I was wondering what the chances are that you are not barbaric'the the first time in a few months and I will give them the best loool it's not the same as charging me a letter of intent of this message is intended for use by a proper Q you are bro I am a little too much work lol but it was an auto reply I will give them the same thing that would get the first place it'd probably have a great weekend and we will never have a great weekend lool but it's not the same as the registered and the year x done by a Nazi on a weekly and I will be a great day we went and sat into
I've tried using Google translate for homework before, it's damn near gibberish, especially with longer passages. It should only be used for translating individual words.
I speak French and this doesn't make a lot of sense, it almost seems like a bunch of copy/paste messages just all mashed together. And a lot of repetitive words that are not necessary. Talks about being on vacation, then there's a random "hello" in there that makes it seem like a new message saying that the person is home now but can't receive messages.
I understand a bit of french and I agree with you. The grammar and repetition of words will make a literal translation very like the google translation one. But don't have enough knowledge to translate it better than google.
That's not at all what he said. The only thing he downplayed was the pedo-ring theories about the gibberish comments because of a lack of evidence. Which is why I suggested OP send him what he finds. Beyond that, Tim Pool described the videos as disgusting and potentially dangerous/harmful for young children. He framed it as child abuse/exploitation. He then said he was investigating further into the live action stuff that involves real children getting needles and shit. Unless he dropped a video overnight that I haven't seen yet telling people there's "nothing to see here", you are either an idiot or a liar.
Good lord, that is disturbing. For some reason the idea of someone keeping their mind control cocktail of barbituates, stimulants, AL-LAD or some other mind fuck chemical and god knows what else in a little innocuous kitchen jar. Fuck.
You mean to tell me there are things in this world that I haven't experienced and you're trying to convince me that those things AREN'T EVIL?! Bullshit sir! 😂😂
Ok so I don't think my original post was 100% clear...I'm asking about it in the context of why would that specific Youtube account have a commercial for Jaguar (featuring a rooster/cock) and a video of a pussy cat posted along with a few random kid videos. It just seems odd.
I feel like clicking on some of those related vid links will get me in trouble. Like this one, man the comments are so gross. There are some things you/your parents shouldn't upload publicly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRx0dtYnHLs
I have an idea, why don't we post links to everything incriminating (BEFORE we have archived up the ass) on the WORLD'S biggest conspiracy message board. If we ask YouTube nicely, they won't destroy evidence, I'm sure!
you know, if you know the ascii characters for each language you can easily write a computer program that would take in strings and translate for you without the need for a thai keyboard emulator.
simple-ish languages like C# (or even C++ but its not as simple) can look at different ASCII mappings based on location -- in C# its built in and really easy to access when doing string operations.
I know your probably not a programmer. but just a suggestion -- because if your really onto some type of code/cipher, writing a translation program would be the best thing to do.
first, youd take the input characters, then youd swap them to be characters out of the thai character set or whatever, then you'd parse it with whatever cipher you think is being used algorithmically.
wasn't talking about google translate. I was specifically speaking about custom programming your own cipher program the same way youd deal with any simple encryption/decryption program.
unlike google translate, it wouldn't be using some complex system, what I described was very basic. Essentially youd be converting the characters and then hardcoding a dictionary specifying what characters mean.
what this 'dictionary' would entail would be similar to a hash table -- except instead of containing the 'key' and its representative data value, it would store the hand-typed set of thai characters, and then the English translation in its second element.
this would be much different, much simpler and more effective than google's. although it literally wouldn't be a translator for anything that wasn't ciphered and pre-programmed into the dictionary by hand
although you could also add a client-end option to add a new dictionary value and its meaning.
itd be closer to brute-force than actual translation. Google translate attempts to lookup each word individually and translate it.
this is a Buddhist group that seems to have a LOT of 'influential supporters' ... maybe that's being used where they meet and/or 'find kids'? (it's also an orphanage type group) Sick cunts have infiltrated and abused the place?
. The main criticism was that the temple was using fundraising methods that did not fit in with Buddhism and the temple had become too capitalistic.
Although many of these methods and teachings were not unique to Wat Phra Dhammakaya, the criticism came at a moment when the temple had become very noticeable due to its size, its high-profile supporters, and due to the project of building the Dhammakaya Cetiya at the time, which required a lot of funds. All of this at the backdrop of the financial crisis Thailand was facing at the time.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if all this gibberish in the comments is a bunch of people fucking trolling. Before these videos got all this attention they were just weird fucking videos. Soon as all this attention happened BANG untold gibberish comments. What is more likely; Pedos communication over tube to set up the sale of children ( u know instead of using the dark web ) Or the internet trolling as per fucking usual. I mean to run an international child abuse ring I would imagine one would have to be slightly more intelligent than to run it through fucking youtube
You're talking as if it's organised or was planned and set up this way. I don't think it's likely there is one big ring running through YouTube it's just possible that this is a way pedos are using to communicate and find each other. Obviously the real crime and structure of any rings would be outside of YouTube.
Pedos communication over tube to set up the sale of children ( u know instead of using the dark web )
That's the thing, it may well move onto the Darkweb. If you're a random pedo with no connections it's not as simple as loading up the dark web and typing in "cp" or "children for sale", you still have to find a way to initially network with other likeminded people.
From what I've seen on this board people are saying it is organised etc. I saw one dude say he managed to decode one word in a pile of gibberish and it was decided that word was acid... conclusion: THEY ARE DISCUSSING HOW TO GET RID OF BODIES!! I honestly have no experience with the underweb and how to go about using it but I assume it isn't actually that hard to get set up with a tor router etc. It just seems to me that anybody famous nowadays that speaks of food or shock horror has a picture taken of them with a child in it must be a pedo... and not only a pedo but part of an international cabal with far-reaching powers that has the influence to silence anyone that might expose them. And yet they are still so fucking stupid they converse about their activities in emails/social media and youtube?
I mean some of it could be organised but it's ludicrous to suggest that every single one of these channels is involved in one structured pedo ring, that's just idiotic.
but I assume it isn't actually that hard to get set up with a tor router etc.
It's really easy, you could be on Tor in the next 15 minutes if you wanted to be. The point is you still have to know where to look, you still have to find Tor domains to connect to or find a community on there, you don't just open Tor and there is a child porn search engine as your homepage lol.
Buying drugs on Tor is super easy because there are clearnet places (such as /r/DNMSuperlist) which will give you links to the places where you can buy the drugs. I imagine there is no such resource for child porn (that's easy to find).
Yeah for sure. I just think people are getting lost in a sea of total bullshit and who knows wtf is going on under our noses while we hate on pizza parlours and spend hours upon hours trying to "decode" a load of fkn gibberish on youtube vids. I'm not saying this isn't impossible but a lot of it just makes me think the perpetrators of all these things must be dumber than a bunch of rocks which makes me question how they can become all powerful. I know Im talking generally now and not about elsagate so sorry about that :)
perpetrators of all these things must be dumber than a bunch of rocks which makes me question how they can become all powerful.
I mean.. They could be dumb as a bunch of rocks, pedos aren't necessarily intelligent or powerful. You don't need to be powerful or intelligent to want to fuck kids you just have to be a sicko browsing the internet with an unhealthy focus and desire. IMO if it's true then they're not that dumb I think it's pretty clever personally or at least I can't think of many better ways to do it.
Another thing to note is that finding childporn on the darkweb is also a minefield. The FBI is known to have 25+ child porn websites on the darkweb that they operate themselves in order to try and catch pedofiles. It wouldn't be that stupid to revert to hiding in plain site on YouTube which isn't being nearly closely as monitored for that kind of crime.
I have no idea lol. I honestly don't have a frame of reference when discussing how these peoples minds work. While I agree with everything you have said I was really just highlighting the way groups of people decide how true or not shit is. Maybe I am nieve or paranoid to think that it would be just as possible that this is 20 or so people spamming a load of bullshit on these videos just to propagate the next big "CS" they have uncovered. Likewise, people are happy to be "100% sure Trump fucked a 13-year-old and conspired with Russia" Likewise people are happy to believe HRC Knowingly launders money for child trafficking rings and close friends of hers literally eat babies.
I dunno, I know I am going off on a tangent and my ramblings are not that coherent, sometimes I find it quite hard to articulate what I am thinking and then write it down where it actually makes sense.
Maybe I am nieve or paranoid to think that it would be just as possible that this is 20 or so people spamming a load of bullshit on these videos just to propagate the next big "CT" they have uncovered.
No that's entirely possible, you'd just be stupid to assume that it's the case imo. It could be trolls, it could be bots, it could be retarded kids or it could be pedos, I'm willing to entertain any of those possibilities. Anyone saying for sure it is or isn't that must have some information that no one else has..
There are a few comments on different videos on Littleboy Adams profile. A lot of different languages, Arabic, Nepalese, Thai etc. all telling 'Adam' to 'lookout' and 'take care of yourself.'
I've been watching videos on Gematria. Google Gematria. It translates words into numbers. There are several meanings for different words. I use the Gematria calculator that calls itself the best one out there (I think it's the second link on Google). This guy that has a video on Youtube makes a lot of videos on it.
I'm not sure if this means anything but I copied and pasted one of the comments on little boy spider video. Lhvjf tju tctc1wtuippp u
Some of the words that pop up after I searched this are messed up for a comment on a video with a kid in it.
Gonna take a look at that. I was starting to think for the most part, it was random gibberish to attract a potential PM from someone with 'similar life views'
Nah. I've been searching for stuff in gematria and noticed when I'd search regular words, I'd sometimes see gibberish. I was like wtf. Then when I saw this, it made me think of it. I can't say for sure that's what it is but it's just an idea. If it takes people in the right direction to get these people I'm glad.
The two phrases you returned made my stomach sink. That's more that enough proof for me that these comments are code of some type.
These videos are made to be seen by children, absolutely. I think it's a conditioning thing, whatever group is behind this wants children to be more susceptible to sexual themes, violence, etc.
I see a lot of "this = this" type stuff, especially in the colour related videos. I think their idea is that kids will see Elsa/hero shit in a store or something, and then start remembering the conditioning from the videos, sort of like a trigger.
I feel like these guys have a deeper agenda. Remember how incels thought? How they thought all women should be bred in a facility and handed out to men as wives at the "prime age" of 14? What if there were a group of powerful pedophiles (well, we know there's a ton of super rich pedos) who has a similar ideology? Like that kids should be hyper sexualized so that they were easier to target?
I don't know maybe it's a crazy theory, but these videos scream conditioning, and they were obviously made for kids to find, very young ones.
Seeing the phrase "princess programming" really confirmed all of this for me.
The post above the one you replied to mentioned getting that phrase out as part of a result when they plugged one of the youtube comments into a Gematria calculator.
you might be on to something OP. just found this video. scroll down to the comments section and look for the comment that starts with T. It has no context to it, but somehow someone finds a way to make a conversation of it. Expand the comments, and you will find random responses such as "@" and "57". I can see pedos using youtube as a proxy to relay cryptic messages stately.
I've seen some folks using a code breaker app that can decode letter swaps and they get some creepy messages out of those comment threads. May be worth looking into.
Tell them what their ads are being associated with.
The same thing happened back in March when YouTube started demonitizing videos that their advertisers found inappropriate or racist. It was a pretty big deal and there's multiple large channels that did videos about it, like H3H3
Well I will tell you I live in Thailand 1/2 the year ( wife is Thai). We have a few young neices like 2 or 3 years old and these stupid videos are all they watch. Literally all day long every day as long as they have their parents cell this is what they are watching.
Seriously my 2 year old Thai neice learned the English words for colors and other English words watching these retarded videos.
She runs around screaming "HELP ME! HELP ME!" parodying what she sees in these videos.
I think it's what someone else said, just little kids that can't read or write typing babble into the comment sections.
But why use YouTube? Why not a less popular video hosting site, or even at all? Why bother making a creepy video that would undoubtedly raise eyebrows when it is inevitably discovered. Human trafficking absolutely happens but from a logical standpoint it would make no sense to insert more risk of being discovered, and behind something as flimsy as a translator. Either these people are just as thick as a short plank, or they are confident they will never be caught and rubbing it in our faces, which I doubt would be worth the effort. I'm geuninely asking for insights, I have no explanation of what these videos could be, but a community is forming around the opinion that they are intentionally malicious rather than creepy videos made by trolls.
Your comment tells it. Hide something where everyone can see it, is the best way to hide something.
Edit: No law enforcement will check further if you just use Youtube. If they find suspicious websites, they may investigate further ;)
Hate to say it, but from my light digging it does look like kids replying. For a child to type then press send, has to be a 1 out of 30 or 40 chance, right? Weird thing i noticed, the ones who reply usually have one or two videos of a kid, with just the title as the date. Dont know if an adult is recording or another kid is recording but its odd and common. I'd say to you all, dont go investigating yourself into z jail cell, report these findings to authorities and let them dig deeper. Its disturbing how youtube allows this through the youtube kid app.
What is your exact method to decrypt the comments? You give videos and what you think they are saying, but never explain how you're translating the encryption and then the language within.
If your theory holds, just give us your methods and we can decrypt comments ourselves.
Elsagate is real and fucked up beyond belief. I can't help but remain skeptical of someone touting having broken a code that doesn't elucidate how to do so.
Don't bother with these idiots. Elsa gate is real but what OP is talking about is literally just children typing gibberish from their ipads. Very obvious and it's hurts my brain that people are validating OPs stupidity, it hurts the cause.
I saw another thread about this last night and someone commenting about searching dates in a foreign language. Like 1 de Juno 2017. Low and behold, almost every date i typed into youtube like that turned up weird candid young girl videos. Then in the comments they would just say a time, like :20. Then when you jump to that time there would be a panty shot or something.
But even more disturbing were the whatsapp comments with addresses...i didn't and wouldn't delve into that.
Hi mate, I hope you're still reading the comments you receive.
Just a quick question: couldn't this be a sort of "gang" that trades videos stolen from people's cloud accounts or, perhaps even worst, videos captured remotely without people's consent?
Because that's what it looks like.
Dozens upon dozens of teen women doing what seem like videochats, sometimes clearly attempting to be sexy. Dozens upon dozens of seemingly creepy videos of children, running around and stuff. Home videos, most likely, of children with their relatives in just everyday situations.
Do you think it could be people doing this? Trading homemade (stolen) nude videos, porn tapes, and maybe even CP that they stole but didn't produce? Or do you think this is straight-up people who captured children and are selling them?
It could just be users advertising "safe" videos for cp(media) swaps in private convos or it could be human trafficking or it could be both, no idea. It definitely could involve some form of central organization, and I think that may be where the elsagate channels come in. I've seen the owners of the channels recognize and interact with certain users so that would support them being the central organizing point.
Holy shit. Someone just linked this to me from NoSleep, where I produced a story on Elsagate. Take them down, /u/opco10. Take these motherfuckers down. I'll get my legions to support you.
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We need to contact something but idk what. I think youtube must somehow be in on it because look how many views it's getting. One of the channels is the 7th largest channel on youtube.
Well that one Video with the toddler jumping on the bed is really questionable.
The Videos with the Spiderman Boy, well this looks like abuse, but not in a sexual way, more likely to gather some popularity on Youtube and gather money with using the boy for it.
Also people watching those videos or let their kids watch such hillarious stupid shit, well i would really question their cleverness.
The 3rd Youtube link, those People look more like they're from India/Punjab Region, not really Thai. Also the Playlist on that channel hints to Songs form India. They have a distroting and creepy Feeling, well, but i don't think they are related to any pedo stuff. In one Video you can see an elder woman sitting on the couch in the background, would be very amateurish.
Also the Jaguar advertise, the cat Video and the Ghee preparation seem to have no relation to such objectives.
Here you also have the photo of a pregnant women on the channel, perhaps the person who's behind the channel.
If in serious doubt, report to police or other authorities, they have more resources. They could get get hold of IP adresses and traffic data and get support from the police in those countries.
his entire account is gone, i had the page left open before i went to sleep earlier and i just came back to this.
something tells me it was his own decision, however, for a good reason. other redditors were flocking to the videos linked commenting "we're coming for you", causing the youtuber to delete all the giberish comments.
seems likely that he just wanted to hold off on this before some bozo's could soil the entire op
Keep looking, trust me. I'll admit, some of the links are definitely just home videos that got I mixed up clicking through all the gibberish. But look for the ones that just have dates for titles in particular.
I just mean why even produce videos at all? Why not just message each other on message boards or PM's or anything else? What do the videos provide that another platform or method wouldn't?
Maybe I am nieve or paranoid to think that it would be just as possible that this is 20 or so people spamming a load of bullshit on these videos just to propagate the next big "CT" they have uncovered.
No that's entirely possible, you'd just be stupid to assume that it's the case imo. It could be trolls, it could be bots, it could be retarded kids or it could be pedos, I'm willing to entertain any of those possibilities. Anyone saying for sure it is or isn't that must have some information that no one else has..
We don't want to scare them away before we know what is going on. What is messaging them really going to do other risk any progress that Bay have been made?
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I’m a techy, not a coder, but dab in many tech fields. I don’t even really know much about what you just said. You think these morons who think kidnapping and trafficking of innocent children would have the brains to figure it out?
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2 SourceDetective 2017-11-16
Why was this deleted?
2 tatadoo 2017-11-16
OP has been deleted. This must have struck a nerve.
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1 amdzealot 2017-11-16
Please die in a fire automoderator.
1 watchwhatsnext 2017-11-16
Your results then?
1 opco10 2017-11-16
Very positive. Just found a "I love you"
1 watchwhatsnext 2017-11-16
When I get to a console I’ll try to reproduce your findings
1 opco10 2017-11-16
Okay, so look at this channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOSFyhdhgHdyFzn45ljBFqw
The user commented "may" in thai. They have a bunch of videos including march and april but no "may." What if "may" is the child they're selling?
1 toast28 2017-11-16
Where do you see this? I'm not clicking on every video to find 1 comment that may or may not be there.
1 opco10 2017-11-16
You dont have to. It's the videos themselves. Look at the channel, it has month by month videos of kids but no may video. Just theorizing that it could be a form of display/communication.
1 Saucedaddy3 2017-11-16
Solid find if it works
1 dogrescuersometimes 2017-11-16
You are a hero!
1 Retromind 2017-11-16
an hero
1 that_70s_kid 2017-11-16
a
1 Retromind 2017-11-16
Clearly u don't lurk in 4chan
1 bobqjones 2017-11-16
'an hero' has a specific meaning.
lurk moar newfag
1 Retromind 2017-11-16
Leddit, never change.
1 bobqjones 2017-11-16
shouldn't you be in class, kid?
1 dogrescuersometimes 2017-11-16
"an" is often used before "h" words but only when the "h" is silent.
1 LONESTARx14 2017-11-16
You now have my mind running. I'm not questioning the concept but I can't think of a word that does that. Give me an example.
1 slink7 2017-11-16
an hour
an honor
1 LONESTARx14 2017-11-16
Thank you. Obvious. Haha
1 dogrescuersometimes 2017-11-16
what slink7 said and a house a hill an herb
1 passivehate 2017-11-16
People have been using the Thai keyboard emulator for weeks.
1 KevinWCollarBone 2017-11-16
Very nice work. Wow.
1 KarmaPolice777 2017-11-16
Big if true.
GJ.
1 psy_raven 2017-11-16
Nice! Keep working on it!
1 Eoooiny 2017-11-16
I do think these videos are incredibly weird and watched by millions of kids and pervy adults but I do not really buy this whole coded language theory yet. So since these videos are watched by alot of kids, the target market seems to be around the toddler age, so I believe so it's probably on their parents mobile phone. I see this a lot in the supermarket I work in. So my theory is that alot of these comments could actually just be made by kids scrolling down to the comment section. You have to tap only once in any comment to open up the keyboard so it is quite easy for a child to post a comment. My evidence for this is that alot of these so called coded keywords are letters right beside each other on the keyboard. Take a look at the comments in this link: https://youtu.be/v1RBbOKC_CQ Most of these comments look like button mashing from toddlers. If further evidence comes out, I stand corrected but I really do believe that this is the case, especially with the more popular ones.
1 opco10 2017-11-16
Yeah, I definitely think this could be just a bunch of homeade videos linked to parents accounts which children are using. I'm just putting a theory out there based on simply the large number of videos I saw of children being filmed in off putting ways+how the videos and channel owners just seem to fetishize everything somehow. We need to comb the comments more before anything will be known for sure
1 Eoooiny 2017-11-16
Yeah I agree. There is some weird videos out there man and so many! Kids are definitely getting exploited one way or the other. YouTube doesn't seem to be blocking them even though they said they would recently. What the fuck is up with that?
1 steelime 2017-11-16
You tube, twitter all the same pedo ceo's
1 TheSecretPlot 2017-11-16
It just seems like such an inefficient way of doing it. You would think they could come up with a better way to communicate and sell than posting videos on youtube.
1 LoganLinthicum 2017-11-16
I think most of the elsa phenomena is explicable by unscrupulous creators exploiting a strange facet of childhood psychology. In particular, the psychology of young children for which have been subjected to youtube and ipads as childrearing aids. That psychology is going to be twisted both by the forces of neglect, the sick messaging of the mass media of our culture, and the instant reward feedback dependance and short attention span engineered in us when we use these devices and the web.
Anyway you got all these fucked up forces colliding and then people exploiting the whole mess for profit because that's the force driving the whole disaster in the first place. And the result looks really horrific and fucked up because because we're in some late stage capitalism shit now and this is holding a mirror up to the whole pile.
But I do not think what we are seeing is the tip of any wider conspiracy iceberg. The thing looming under the surface isn't a vast plot, it is the terminal sickness of our own society.
1 GorillaOnTren 2017-11-16
How is not efficient? It's pretty anonymous and is very hard to detect.. If this is true it's obviously been going on a long time unnoticed because the comments can easily just look like dumb kids on the face of it.. The thing is not many adults are looking at these videos because adults are focused on adult content, what better place to hide?
1 TheSecretPlot 2017-11-16
I just mean why even produce videos at all? Why not just message each other on message boards or PM's or anything else? What do the videos provide that another platform or method wouldn't?
1 GorillaOnTren 2017-11-16
Are you talking about the cartoon videos themselves or the people commenting? The cartoon videos themselves are made for huge profits obviously, I'm not sold on the idea that the people making the Elsa videos are necessarily involved in a pedophile ring. I'm suggesting that pedos may have found a way to communicate discreetly using the comment sections of these videos as cover.
1 steelime 2017-11-16
This just made me very sad. So sad. I knew kids were watching this, but the fact that they might be the ones leaving comments just sickens me.
1 TheWiredWorld 2017-11-16
Yeah there's something poetically fucked up about that
1 sinedup4thiscomment 2017-11-16
If these are related to child sex trafficking in some way, yeah it's incredibly fucked up, poetically fucked up at TheWiredWorld said.
1 yourmomlurks 2017-11-16
So I can't figure out how to find all the comments I am sure my toddler has left, but here's the title of a button mash playlist that she created:
2 B n c VGGH RTE.SdSws sr a s q.
1 lunaticLipid 2017-11-16
It could always be both.
1 sinedup4thiscomment 2017-11-16
No, there can only be one explanation for anything. We must have unified, simple truth. None of this complicated intellectual work, please.
/s
1 jamasha 2017-11-16
Pizzagate used coded and to us random looking out of place language as well. Sure, some of the YT comments may be randomly typed characters, some kids watch these videos for sure as well, but I do really feel like we're generally here on to something big.
1 lambosambo 2017-11-16
Can confirm my daughter has accidentally left several YT comments. But - there definitely are people posting creepy comments on there, I remember some on a vid of a little girl being chained to a bed and prof pics of old foreign men commenting "love" "more<3" etc
1 Netmilsmom 2017-11-16
I see no comments on any of the videos you linked. Were there comments before?
1 opco10 2017-11-16
Nope, that's one of the creepy characteristics of the videos. Not a single one had a comment or more than like three or four views. Just a video of a kid, the date as a title and nothing else. About 1/3 of them are in a setting with other individuals but the focus of the camera is always on the kid.
1 beachexec 2017-11-16
Dude... this is way more huge than people think. It's like the vids are commercials for what they're selling.
1 opco10 2017-11-16
Yeah, if it is that, which it may possibly be, then this is another pizzagate.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-11-16
I'm just curious why you think they need to use the comment section, you can message anyone on YouTube or in the comments..
1 opco10 2017-11-16
I think they primarily do message each other actually. This may be more like display than messaging.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-11-16
If you're right about the language, rather than wasting time watching videos, translating comments, and trying to figure out some code that may not exist.. why don't you just ask them using the translator?
I mean, this is literally the first logical thing I thought of, why the fuck would you waste all this effort before even straight messaging them?
1 opco10 2017-11-16
So one of two situations is true
They are pedos
They are normal people.
Regardless of what is true I will either get the same answer or probably no answer at all, doing me zero good.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-11-16
The fucking point is to do the easy thing first, rather than looking for codes and shit. They are foreigners, maybe in their culture something about this is normal, and no one with a western ideology has bothered to tell them in their own language why it is disturbing.
You're problem on both ends is that you're assuming you have the answer, and you're working from there. I've given you an incredibly simple hypothesis, rather than dismiss it, test it. How hard would it be to create a cut/paste translation of a simple question, that you simply message to each video creator you've linked?
It would probably take less time than you've spent watching any of the videos.
1 Zergged 2017-11-16
Aren't you assuming it's native people using their native language for native location-based interactions?
Ciphers and codes work just as well when they are made from different or many languages.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-11-16
Words get translated, but how the language is actually used doesn't always translate. The order of the words, etc. The less you understand the language, the more likely you are to find oddities.
And let's face it, no one on this sub, that I've seen anyways, has been trying to find something as complex as cyphers. The dude I replied to says "they said May, but there's no posts in May, so maybe it's a kid's name".. I mean what the fuck. What kind of fucking logic is that.
1 GetItOuttaUrAss 2017-11-16
Fucking brilliant.
See that group of guys standing on the corner? It appears that they're selling illicit drugs based on how seemingly random cars stop at the corner and interact with them for a bit before driving away.
Now, the only way we can figure out if this is really happening, is for you to go ask those guys on the corner.
Because, if they ARE selling crack, they're definitely going to discuss it with a complete complete stranger and your life wouldn't be in danger at all!
You've got the best ideas bro! Maybe you should be a private Dick!
1 xombae 2017-11-16
People like this guy scare me, because it's a sure thing that whatever we're observing isn't going to last long, it's going to go away and then we're going to have to start right over, all because people like this guy need to try to act tough and message the people directly.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-11-16
The original comment admits that they likely do message each other! The person you're replying to is ignoring how drug stings work, you walk up and ask for some drugs, if they give you drugs, boom.. jail.
Guess what? You message someone with a strange comment on one of those fucking videos? You're at least probably put on a list somewhere. These videos aren't new(over a year I've seen posts about them), they haven't gone away.. and there's likely agencies across the planet using them as a honey pot.
But, if the OP thinks that the comment section is being used by weirdoes, then do like the police do, if you're right, bring it to the police. It isn't like these people have just been discovered. Fuck man, use your head.
1 GetItOuttaUrAss 2017-11-16
LMFAO
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-11-16
This isn't new, there's been posts about this for over a year. Yes, they are being observed, and only complete idiots could somehow upload these videos and image they aren't being observed when this shit has hit the mainstream media multiple times.
How do police busy drug dealers? Your comment is wilfully ignorant, you act like you're buying drugs.
But in this case, after a year of these videos getting attention, if you act like "you're buying the drugs" in this case.. those comments are almost certainly by agencies across the planet. It's a honey trap. At least I hope it is.
But no, people aren't going to think "they're onto me!" if they get a message. OP even admitted this is how they conduct business. Mainstream media has been talking about it, this shit has been going on over a year.. maybe people need to do something about it, rather than just talk about it.
1 Prepare2cry 2017-11-16
or 3. what if they are undercover and you get in trouble?
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-11-16
I mean, depending what they message.. the only reason I haven't sent messages myself is because this looks like a honey pot. I mean, why else are the videos left up, other than more being produced each day..
When I found out the FBI was actually in control of the kinds of websites that are obviously illegal, I decided I want nothing to do with any of it. I don't trust our government, but I trust them even less when they're trying to bait anyone looking into this shit.
This just screams to me something trying to catch perverts.. but this guy has found out what language they are talking, but more concerned with finding a code, then asking questions..
The question no one gets in trouble for? "What the fuck is wrong with you?" Pretty sure they can ask that without going to jail.
1 xombae 2017-11-16
We don't want to scare them away before we know what is going on. What is messaging them really going to do other risk any progress that Bay have been made?
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-11-16
Umm, why would messaging them scare them away, when OP is claiming this is how they are doing business? Messaging them would be the simplest way to find out if they are right.. and isn't the whole point to get this shit removed? Scare them away! Fuck.
What you are arguing is "but if I message them, maybe I'll find out I'm wrong" and I say what's wrong with that?
1 xombae 2017-11-16
You're literally suggesting sending "What the fuck is wrong with you" to these people, you're telling me that won't scare them away?
If we can be 100% sure of their code and can manage to message them without giving away that it's us, then yes, messaging them could be a way to get info. But right now it's way too fucking risky.
And trust me, I'd love to be wrong about all of this but it's pretty clear that's not the case. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing, we're literally all just trying to help children here.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-11-16
This isn't a new problem, this has been posted here for over a year.. you think messaging them is going to scare them off? They can simply go online and see people are onto them. Or see mainstream media that's reported stories about their videos.
YouTube kills their channel, they can make another one. They don't rely on subscribers, just that the title pulls them into a queue.
I've seen multiple posts from at least a year ago where people commented that they reported the videos to the FBI or police. Do you really think law enforcement isn't onto this, or do you think this is some new thing? Literally, at least a year I've seen people talking about this shit.
It's time people stop just talking about it, and actually do something.
1 alexman2323 2017-11-16
Court would dismiss it if you could prove you weren't intending to actually TAKE the product. Commenting would merely generate a response. Strangers would be suspicious of.
1 LoganLinthicum 2017-11-16
You won't know until you try.
1 natasha2827 2017-11-16
Or know who to directly message certain things to
1 yummypeanutjelly 2017-11-16
I thought about this, and also thought it was weird to use comment section when you can private message. However it just dawned on me that you’re better off using “in your face” approach rather than direct messages, as private messages aren’t really private, fbi nsa can probably easily access that and then there is direct contact, conversation and proof. This way it’s so brazen and in your face, yet looks so innocent even like a typo, or a bot, that most people don’t even look back twice. This is my theory, don’t know if it holds water.
1 The-Juggernaut 2017-11-16
It holds water enough to be a better sounding theory than most of what I've heard. I've been following Elsagate. I'm glad this didn't die down
1 LoganLinthicum 2017-11-16
it doesn't hold water. no amature plaintext riddles or whatever are going to ever provide better opsec than hard crypto, which is trivially easy to implement.
1 yummypeanutjelly 2017-11-16
I’m a techy, not a coder, but dab in many tech fields. I don’t even really know much about what you just said. You think these morons who think kidnapping and trafficking of innocent children would have the brains to figure it out?
1 LoganLinthicum 2017-11-16
Yes, easily. It's not complicated. And, even then, you don't traffic children internationally while being a total moron.
1 VLXS 2017-11-16
Seems like an extra layer of deniability for boomer pedos with more money than brains and no computer skills.
1 Vaedur 2017-11-16
Because posting all communciations online don't really show the "communication chain" if you have a method to bounce places to post.
For example. comment section youtube .. Other site comment section reply. There is still a missing link i'm thinking.
1 hadwar 2017-11-16
Or just do it on the dark web..
1 SkinBintin 2017-11-16
Dark Web is hardly safe anymore for anyone, let along creeps at the pedo level.
1 hadwar 2017-11-16
so they march to youtube, seems legit
1 SkinBintin 2017-11-16
Never heard the phrase, hide in plain sight?
1 Unique_Username9123 2017-11-16
Alot of his videos have the finger family song just like all the other similar videos ....strange
1 wwwes32 2017-11-16
No, this one is for real
1 AspiringOligarch 2017-11-16
Thailand is a major hub of 'liberal' sex tourism.
'Made to order'.
1 NothingLasts 2017-11-16
Lol, I wasn't aware that sex tourists were asked for their party registration upon entering Thailand.
1 AspiringOligarch 2017-11-16
I sincerely hope that was an attempt at humor.
It was, right? Please say that it was!
1 Wicked_Googly 2017-11-16
He's pointing out that saying "'liberal' sex tourism" makes you sound like a dumbass Donald cult member. Not a joke at all. You sound deranged as fuck.
1 eaazzy_13 2017-11-16
He doesn’t mean “liberal” as in the political affiliation, he means “liberal” as in it’s actual definition..... like saying they have a very free and open sex tourism market. His comment had absolutely nothing to do with political views.
1 Wicked_Googly 2017-11-16
You're right, he might not be a Donald cult member, on this username, at least. Just a typical Jew hater. Carry on, I guess.
1 Fergalbuttmuncher 2017-11-16
Are you paid or stupid?
1 eaazzy_13 2017-11-16
I’m trying to think of a way to describe you, but the phrase you used earlier seems to sum it up the best. You are seriously “deranged as fuck”
1 sinedup4thiscomment 2017-11-16
Jew hater. Jew hater? For every actual anti-semite in conspiracy communities, there's a thousand people that just think Zionism is inherently evil-you know, 17th century colonialism in the 21st century.
1 TheKinkyNerd2point0 2017-11-16
Lovely how when you attack one side it automatically makes you a supporter of the other in that party's eyes. I would suggest sticking to constructive criticism instead of being a dick to people, they tend to listen when the comment isn't riddled with vitriol.
1 BrettLefty 2017-11-16
Vitriol or not, they rarely listen
1 DontTreadOnMe16 2017-11-16
I disagree. I've reached an understanding with many users here that would make comments very heavily steeped in political partisanship. If you approach it politely and can establish that you are not on the typical "opposing team", listening can very much occur.
1 BrettLefty 2017-11-16
I've actually had the same experience here for the most part. Judging by the numerous petty arguments littering almost every post though, that seems to be the exception and not the norm.
1 bobqjones 2017-11-16
that's because over the past couple decades people have been trained to only think in binary. us vs them, with us or against us, black or white.
it's a serious failing in modern thinking, and is quite pervasive.
1 Bileeb 2017-11-16
Oh dear, so you also don’t know the meaning of the word liberal. It means “willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.”
Nobody mentioned politics.
1 Wicked_Googly 2017-11-16
You're surprised someone on The_Donald2.0 took "liberal" to mean "liberal"? Definitely not opposed to that interpretation, but look at what this place has turned into. I used to lurk here just to read some funny conspiracy stuff. Now it's completely full of propaganda. My apologies.
1 Bileeb 2017-11-16
yeah I hear ya
1 Wicked_Googly 2017-11-16
Thanks for saying that. This place has gone nutso, and mostly in one direction. Have a good one, man.
1 sinedup4thiscomment 2017-11-16
It honestly depends on what thread you're posting in. Brigading and shilling is done strategically to have the most impact.
1 AspiringOligarch 2017-11-16
You sound butthurt.
Preparation-H instructions:
Apply 'liberally' to affected area.
Wash hands after use.
1 sinedup4thiscomment 2017-11-16
Idk using "conservative" as a slander doesn't make me think the person using it is an actual communist that wants to nationalize the entire economy and live in a dictatorship. There are spectrums for these things, ambiguities in language. You can make fun of liberals and be liberal in some ways, and the same with conservatives. Stereotypes are funny.
1 Redditisrubbish 2017-11-16
Don't stress it man-You can't help stupid
1 GetItOuttaUrAss 2017-11-16
But, now we're all aware that you're an inconsolable douchebag.
1 charlesfrith 2017-11-16
Where can I find the Thailand connection please? Thanks
1 TheWiredWorld 2017-11-16
Dude this.....this is it. This is shat this shit is.
1 dnguyen93 2017-11-16
/u/opco10 this my main concern when reading this post. You should make a disclaimer.
1 firstwedance 2017-11-16
I checked one of the links and people are leaving comments. I can't blame them however because this causes a visceral reaction. This makes me incredibly sick and I am suffering with feelings of powerlessness. I want to leave comments too but I know it's not going to help the children. I don't know what we should do but something has to happen. And f*** YouTube for protecting sickos.
1 demandcollect 2017-11-16
guys i accidentally made op delete his thread and his account by dming him "stop digging" in thai
2 systemerrorbeepbeep 2017-11-16
Nice job.
1 Demty 2017-11-16
Why tell him to stop? Seems like he want onto something
1 AssistedSuicideSquad 2017-11-16
Because it's a joke and jokes are funny
1 Chokaholic 2017-11-16
He's a giant pussy for getting scared that easily. I'd keep going until I saw black cars and SUVs parked outside my house.
1 donkey_democrat 2017-11-16
Nice job impeding progress
1 BowlOfZombies 2017-11-16
Faggot.
1 supergameman 2017-11-16
My belief stands that these are just random kids typing, to be honest. Millions of young children watch these videos and most likely might make slip ups on their keyboards.
1 WestCoastHippy 2017-11-16
Found the ostrich!
1 supergameman 2017-11-16
No, I'm actually being honest. There's an interesting video done by this series called Down the Rabbit Hole and he elaborates on this in great detail. But I'm definitely open to this theory and if there's more evidence that comes up over time, I'll definitely listen in.
1 WestCoastHippy 2017-11-16
I never doubted your honesty.
1 sinedup4thiscomment 2017-11-16
It's possible. There are also grown ass men doing this shit.
1 supergameman 2017-11-16
Thanks, I'm glad you understand my side of the story.
1 jamasha 2017-11-16
Bingo. As twisted and surreal as that may sound I think that's sadly the most logical conclusion.
1 NewSouthernBelle 2017-11-16
Don't get yourself in too much trouble. I'm serious -- if you are on to something, the bad guys might find you first. Note how that Ryan guy was threatened by James Alefantis. These people play dirty.
You can leave a tip for the FBI here: https://tips.fbi.gov
1 beachexec 2017-11-16
I don't think the FBI will help. I don't even wanna get involved.
1 ver0egiusto 2017-11-16
Did you end up looking into this any more? OP is gone and account deleted...
1 beachexec 2017-11-16
Nah, maybe try 4chan? I've got company coming tonight.
1 cluckcluckgo_dot_com 2017-11-16
Welp, now they know.. I'm sure they will change it...
1 GREIGEMONEY 2017-11-16
These people are sick in their head thinking they can get away with this kind of stuff
1 TheSecretPlot 2017-11-16
So sad that they do.
1 elgrundle 2017-11-16
I noped out of that creepy as shit video link after .2 seconds. I regret even clicking that.
1 jamasha 2017-11-16
Well, they've been getting away with it for a long time...
1 Humas_missing_clit 2017-11-16
wrong time...
1 imnotabotoraboat 2017-11-16
They do all the time , unfortunately
1 ljsmom70 2017-11-16
Haven't seen this mentioned, have not been following this super close, but it makes sense to me that they are using you tube to communicate because of the FBI having control of the deep web servers? reddit! so do they think they cant trust the usual places they communicate now? Just a thought.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-11-16
You can just message people on YouTube, I don't know why they think you need to use the comment section, when they can send private messages.. I think this stuff is still up because the FBI are probably investigating it or trying to use in to catch pervs.
1 GorillaOnTren 2017-11-16
Well obviously the theory is that a pedo comments to advertise himself to other pedo's who will then message them.. How are they supposed to be PM each other before they know the accounts involved?
1 3am_quiet 2017-11-16
Someone needs to go undercover and pretend to be one of them. Put up some coded messages "I'm interested" etc and see if anyone pm's them.
1 deplorable_oracle 2017-11-16
Private messages are as accessible to authorities as public comments are, but generally of much greater interest by the same. The evil among us are not stupid, and they're experts in that old game of cat 'n mouse.
1 oneoneoneoneoneoneo 2017-11-16
As has been mentioned, you need a starting point. How do you know that once someone has posted a public comment that they're not continuing the conversation in a more private manner, even outside of YT's PM option.
You can't PM someone you don't know exists. So you make one of these weird comments and wait for someone to PM you, then you take the rest of your conversation "offline."
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-11-16
That's likely right, and it's likely that if you message the person making the comments, you're likely messaging the FBI or some other agency across the planet..
This seems like an obvious honey pot, and besides it being difficult for YouTube to censor when there's so much content uploaded per minute.. I imagine this far along (this isn't a new problem), multiple agencies across the planet are likely using this shit in an ongoing investigation.
1 xombae 2017-11-16
If the FBI were in control, there wouldn't be so many of these videos, and new ones added every day. Also they wouldn't leave it on the YouTube kids section, whoever is responsible for leaving this stuff up knows the psychological damage it could do to a kid that watches it, and they're okay with that.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-11-16
You have more faith in the FBI and their good intentions than I do.
Also, almost all of the problems with YouTube that I see voiced here everyday, has to do with their censorship. You can automate something that detects if music that is copywritten is used, and they can automate what is removed based on complaints..
But what does that lead to? How many posts have you seen about people's channels being demonetized or removed? Look up how many hours of YouTube videos are uploaded per minute.. I'm not sure what's accurate, but I'm finding between 60-300 hours of video are uploaded per minute.
So what do you expect YouTube to do? Hire millions of people to watch reports of YouTube violations, that's videos of hours per minute? They obviously have an issue that isn't easy to solve..
I don't know what the answer is, I don't know if there is one.. I just think it isn't as simple as people here try to make it sound.
1 xombae 2017-11-16
I see what you mean, but the fact that anyone here can easily find dozens, even hundreds of these videos and channels within minutes... Like it if one YouTube employee searched for this shit they'd find it, it's obviously been brought to their attention but this shit isn't getting any easier to find. I don't know it just seems strange to me.
1 Silentbtdeadly 2017-11-16
It is strange, don't get me wrong. But we also don't know if there's hundreds of videos or hundreds of thousands. We don't know how many are posted per day. Likely, if a channel gets removed, they just make a new one.. they don't depend on subscribers, just that the title gets fed into a playlist.
I think this is a complex problem, but I've seen posts about this well over a year ago the worst shit that people have said, videos of scat and other extreme shit, I've never actually seen those videos, so I'm not sure if YouTube removed them, or if they never existed and it was just a way to try to make the complaint more extreme.
But I don't watch these videos while logged in, I imagine this far in, there must be agencies across the globe looking into this. I remember posts where people said they reported this shit to the FBI. They absolutely know about this shit. If there's a legit issue here, I expect to read about a huge bust.
1 RagingSatyr 2017-11-16
I think there's a chance it's a honeypot. I'd imagine most clearnet cp and pedo rings are.
1 Renegade2592 2017-11-16
Right.. I feel like the evil satanists in our govt push child porn on people as well. The devil wants to corrupt all.
1 sickofallofyou 2017-11-16
They control tor. Tor is not the entirety of the dark net.
1 oxfouzer 2017-11-16
Can you post more information on the translation method? I can build a bookmarklet to do the translation automatically... BTW I checked most of the links in your post and couldn't find a shred of evidence to support what you said, for some reason...
1 opco10 2017-11-16
Keep looking, trust me. I'll admit, some of the links are definitely just home videos that got I mixed up clicking through all the gibberish. But look for the ones that just have dates for titles in particular.
1 opco10 2017-11-16
I found legitimate cp on a channel using this same thai keyboarding
1 reb1995 2017-11-16
Archive it using some archive system on the web. Don't download it yourself. That and tip off the FBI.
1 459pm 2017-11-16
Do you have an archive? We want to completely avoid spreading CP obviously but finding evidence that solid would help raise awareness a lot.
1 NotFuckingHappy 2017-11-16
What do you mean by "legitimate?"
1 opco10 2017-11-16
Redundant language. It was a video of a young naked boy(4-6) who had both arms tied with ropes so they were loosely outstretched to poles maybe a foot away from him. It was outside in a muddy field and it looked set in asia. The kid looked dirty and seemed to be trying to beg with the people filming/off camera. It was only maybe 20 seconds long. I found it off one of the elsagate videos after I clicked a channel which had a very wierd surgery video. One of the commenters on that video(in gibberish) had the cp on his channel.
1 33timeemit33 2017-11-16
Wow we need reddit power to help get this wide spread. Upvotes for front page!
1 leggobucks 2017-11-16
Some dude replied in French to a comment on this video
The translation via google translate was pretty strange (especially in the context of the video)
1 opco10 2017-11-16
So this channel "littleboy Adam" is the primary channel I've been focusing on for vids, as it seems to have a lot. It looks like the vidoes could take place in thailand. I've seen "regular" seemingly adult user comment thing like "hey im back" and then little boy adam would do some wierd shit like "hi hi hi :)". What if these users vacation in thailand and use this channel as a hub for communication?
1 juksayer 2017-11-16
That channel is weird as hell. A million views for a kid changing the tire on a power wheels? Wtf
1 opportunusadest 2017-11-16
Ye in addition th channel exist in english (little boy adam) and french.
1 juksayer 2017-11-16
Merci
1 ELP0TP0T 2017-11-16
Even worse is the one with the Turkish bath that has over 14 million views.
1 littlechipmunk_ 2017-11-16
Sounds like someone just kept hitting the auto suggest on their keyboard and made up a story 😂
Example : the first thing I read and made sure is that the best way to get better at it is to try and get the bus before you go to bed and then go to work heaps more than you could do with a big hug each week or two at the same time it is important for us to scan your email address and password to your email address and password and password to access your email address and password for access
1 DriftingNeutrinos 2017-11-16
It's been the past year or something and I hope you have to replace the people who go through people's profiles of people who are interested to go North and fight for the shooting of a sudden decide something I can remember dumb bullshit like the person you have any dishes or silverware and tell me to get to all of people are getting a little bit more of people are annoyed with me and saying the woman who don't have to reply if they see people here realize it to my knowledge of the one thing that will make sure I can go check out.
I just kept hitting the last word on my predictive text and it almost made sense in parts before going gibberish.
I particularly liked this part:
1 firefighter681 2017-11-16
If you want to have a talk about gun show review the radio station and embolden its own insurance companies are the members only one of the first amendment grants and it would all be able to work with a list of veterans in the Fire Dept and what wars they served in a fight for you to wonder out loud who would get the truck.
1 mtnrddt 2017-11-16
Yes that's exactly what I thought too!
Here's mine: I am sure you will be a good man to the right to the end and he will always have a good job and he is the only person I can find and you will have a good time and aggravation a little more to do you think about that it will come out with your own house you can get it right away from you all of us will have you a good time to get to know you are a great friend
1 littlechipmunk_ 2017-11-16
Man he sounds like a catch - good man til the end, good job, the only person you can find and you'll have a good time, and IT WILL COME WITH YOUR OWN HOUSE 😍😍😍💯💯💯👌👌👌👀
1 mtnrddt 2017-11-16
Lol!!
1 Demographiccausation 2017-11-16
The way you do know I'm a little too much power of attorney to represent me in your blood bro please enter the code to your email address that you have a look and feel of a week to chill when you get the thing you can only use on that flexing his battering the first time in a way that you are not barbaric'the first time I had to get a duplicate it was an auto reply I was wondering what happened here is a bit confused with it because it was an auto reply I was wondering what the chances are that you are not barbaric'the the first time in a few months and I will give them the best loool it's not the same as charging me a letter of intent of this message is intended for use by a proper Q you are bro I am a little too much work lol but it was an auto reply I will give them the same thing that would get the first place it'd probably have a great weekend and we will never have a great weekend lool but it's not the same as the registered and the year x done by a Nazi on a weekly and I will be a great day we went and sat into
1 littlechipmunk_ 2017-11-16
He's a little too much a power of attorney and he will represent you in his blood. forever 👿🏛️
1 RagingSatyr 2017-11-16
Can any French speakers translate the above text? Google translate fucks up a lot and my French is too shitty to read that.
1 amdzealot 2017-11-16
French is not hard to translate. You can word for word translate it and get intelligible sentences. that string of nonsense is the output of a bot.
1 RagingSatyr 2017-11-16
I've tried using Google translate for homework before, it's damn near gibberish, especially with longer passages. It should only be used for translating individual words.
1 wolfek00 2017-11-16
I speak French and this doesn't make a lot of sense, it almost seems like a bunch of copy/paste messages just all mashed together. And a lot of repetitive words that are not necessary. Talks about being on vacation, then there's a random "hello" in there that makes it seem like a new message saying that the person is home now but can't receive messages.
1 Aynia4 2017-11-16
I understand a bit of french and I agree with you. The grammar and repetition of words will make a literal translation very like the google translation one. But don't have enough knowledge to translate it better than google.
1 _Mellex_ 2017-11-16
Send this to Tim Pool. He's been looking into Elsagate.
1 jckfrags 2017-11-16
He basically said in his video that Elsagate is okay, nothing to worry about.
1 _Mellex_ 2017-11-16
Yeah, that's why he used the words creepy, disturbing, and wrong, and there was more to come. Fucking dumb ass 😂
1 jckfrags 2017-11-16
In one of his latest videos he said that Elsagate is creepy, but some people are freaking out about it too much. I've watched it.
1 _Mellex_ 2017-11-16
That's not at all what he said. The only thing he downplayed was the pedo-ring theories about the gibberish comments because of a lack of evidence. Which is why I suggested OP send him what he finds. Beyond that, Tim Pool described the videos as disgusting and potentially dangerous/harmful for young children. He framed it as child abuse/exploitation. He then said he was investigating further into the live action stuff that involves real children getting needles and shit. Unless he dropped a video overnight that I haven't seen yet telling people there's "nothing to see here", you are either an idiot or a liar.
1 SixVISix 2017-11-16
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekfs6bN7QM0
Someone explain to me how this is NOT drugging food...
1 trumpetspieler 2017-11-16
Good lord, that is disturbing. For some reason the idea of someone keeping their mind control cocktail of barbituates, stimulants, AL-LAD or some other mind fuck chemical and god knows what else in a little innocuous kitchen jar. Fuck.
1 bergmanu 2017-11-16
It's an oil based sorbet actually.
1 Theotheogreato 2017-11-16
You mean to tell me there are things in this world that I haven't experienced and you're trying to convince me that those things AREN'T EVIL?! Bullshit sir! 😂😂
1 mtnrddt 2017-11-16
It looks like someone adding turmeric, sugar and gelatin to oil, then adding ice cubes so the gelatin thickens quickly.
1 Wicked_Googly 2017-11-16
Shhh, they're onto something.
1 CeallachODaugherty 2017-11-16
All the video's posted on that channel are strange. What is up with the animal videos? Like this Jaguar commercial.
https://youtu.be/m_c2iBNOSkM
1 Wicked_Googly 2017-11-16
You're asking what's up with a commercial for Jaguar cars? Jesus, you guys have lost your fucking minds.
1 Theotheogreato 2017-11-16
I don't know man did you watch the commercial? The way that guy makes that chicken dance is suggestive of some nefarious plot... 😂😂😂😂
1 toast28 2017-11-16
We have to go deeper!
1 PugFan1982 2017-11-16
lol at this point, people assume any video that they think is weird is part of a pedo hypnosis plot.
Thank god Pizzagate happened after the rise of YouTube Poops, people would lose their minds.
1 CeallachODaugherty 2017-11-16
Ok so I don't think my original post was 100% clear...I'm asking about it in the context of why would that specific Youtube account have a commercial for Jaguar (featuring a rooster/cock) and a video of a pussy cat posted along with a few random kid videos. It just seems odd.
1 LumbarLiquidators 2017-11-16
I feel like clicking on some of those related vid links will get me in trouble. Like this one, man the comments are so gross. There are some things you/your parents shouldn't upload publicly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRx0dtYnHLs
1 worktheshoot 2017-11-16
I was literally eating apple sauce when I clicked that link. Made me want to vomit
1 dragnar1212 2017-11-16
its fucking icecream
made the old fashion way
1 thebabyseagull 2017-11-16
Nice work op.
1 nothingduploading 2017-11-16
I'm out of the loop...what is Elsa Gate?
1 Khaine81 2017-11-16
Use google. It is in the MSM nowadays. In Sweden we recently had a hero reporter named Hugo Ewald who made a recent article in Metro about this topic.
1 fat_earther 2017-11-16
I have an idea, why don't we post links to everything incriminating (BEFORE we have archived up the ass) on the WORLD'S biggest conspiracy message board. If we ask YouTube nicely, they won't destroy evidence, I'm sure!
1 BigYellowLemon 2017-11-16
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1 TheGreatOni19 2017-11-16
Thank you for doing this.
1 JumbledEdge 2017-11-16
Please continue. Let's get these b-tards.
1 recovThrowAway 2017-11-16
you know, if you know the ascii characters for each language you can easily write a computer program that would take in strings and translate for you without the need for a thai keyboard emulator.
simple-ish languages like C# (or even C++ but its not as simple) can look at different ASCII mappings based on location -- in C# its built in and really easy to access when doing string operations.
I know your probably not a programmer. but just a suggestion -- because if your really onto some type of code/cipher, writing a translation program would be the best thing to do.
first, youd take the input characters, then youd swap them to be characters out of the thai character set or whatever, then you'd parse it with whatever cipher you think is being used algorithmically.
1 thotket 2017-11-16
half-thai here. just so you know, google translate can't understand thai at all.
1 recovThrowAway 2017-11-16
wasn't talking about google translate. I was specifically speaking about custom programming your own cipher program the same way youd deal with any simple encryption/decryption program.
unlike google translate, it wouldn't be using some complex system, what I described was very basic. Essentially youd be converting the characters and then hardcoding a dictionary specifying what characters mean.
what this 'dictionary' would entail would be similar to a hash table -- except instead of containing the 'key' and its representative data value, it would store the hand-typed set of thai characters, and then the English translation in its second element.
this would be much different, much simpler and more effective than google's. although it literally wouldn't be a translator for anything that wasn't ciphered and pre-programmed into the dictionary by hand
although you could also add a client-end option to add a new dictionary value and its meaning.
itd be closer to brute-force than actual translation. Google translate attempts to lookup each word individually and translate it.
1 natasha2827 2017-11-16
Great work but make sure you rest and take breaks. This shit will hurt your brain
1 sinedup4thiscomment 2017-11-16
Who knows, the pedophilia may even spread to you like a disease.
1 throwawaymnmnmn 2017-11-16
I'm obviously way too late for this thread but is it possible there are hidden files in the videos?
1 purplestuff11 2017-11-16
Oh no. I thought it was just shitty clickbait. This is real bad. Someone needs to find a reporter who can tell people.
1 RPmatrix 2017-11-16
and ALL the comments are gone ... except three from redditors
1 RPmatrix 2017-11-16
this is weird; " I just got a location (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wat_Phra_Dhammakaya)"
this is a Buddhist group that seems to have a LOT of 'influential supporters' ... maybe that's being used where they meet and/or 'find kids'? (it's also an orphanage type group) Sick cunts have infiltrated and abused the place?
a great place to get lost in the crowd . ...
1 Dougalishere 2017-11-16
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if all this gibberish in the comments is a bunch of people fucking trolling. Before these videos got all this attention they were just weird fucking videos. Soon as all this attention happened BANG untold gibberish comments. What is more likely; Pedos communication over tube to set up the sale of children ( u know instead of using the dark web ) Or the internet trolling as per fucking usual. I mean to run an international child abuse ring I would imagine one would have to be slightly more intelligent than to run it through fucking youtube
1 GorillaOnTren 2017-11-16
You're talking as if it's organised or was planned and set up this way. I don't think it's likely there is one big ring running through YouTube it's just possible that this is a way pedos are using to communicate and find each other. Obviously the real crime and structure of any rings would be outside of YouTube.
That's the thing, it may well move onto the Darkweb. If you're a random pedo with no connections it's not as simple as loading up the dark web and typing in "cp" or "children for sale", you still have to find a way to initially network with other likeminded people.
1 Dougalishere 2017-11-16
From what I've seen on this board people are saying it is organised etc. I saw one dude say he managed to decode one word in a pile of gibberish and it was decided that word was acid... conclusion: THEY ARE DISCUSSING HOW TO GET RID OF BODIES!! I honestly have no experience with the underweb and how to go about using it but I assume it isn't actually that hard to get set up with a tor router etc. It just seems to me that anybody famous nowadays that speaks of food or shock horror has a picture taken of them with a child in it must be a pedo... and not only a pedo but part of an international cabal with far-reaching powers that has the influence to silence anyone that might expose them. And yet they are still so fucking stupid they converse about their activities in emails/social media and youtube?
1 GorillaOnTren 2017-11-16
I mean some of it could be organised but it's ludicrous to suggest that every single one of these channels is involved in one structured pedo ring, that's just idiotic.
It's really easy, you could be on Tor in the next 15 minutes if you wanted to be. The point is you still have to know where to look, you still have to find Tor domains to connect to or find a community on there, you don't just open Tor and there is a child porn search engine as your homepage lol.
Buying drugs on Tor is super easy because there are clearnet places (such as /r/DNMSuperlist) which will give you links to the places where you can buy the drugs. I imagine there is no such resource for child porn (that's easy to find).
1 Dougalishere 2017-11-16
Yeah for sure. I just think people are getting lost in a sea of total bullshit and who knows wtf is going on under our noses while we hate on pizza parlours and spend hours upon hours trying to "decode" a load of fkn gibberish on youtube vids. I'm not saying this isn't impossible but a lot of it just makes me think the perpetrators of all these things must be dumber than a bunch of rocks which makes me question how they can become all powerful. I know Im talking generally now and not about elsagate so sorry about that :)
1 GorillaOnTren 2017-11-16
I mean.. They could be dumb as a bunch of rocks, pedos aren't necessarily intelligent or powerful. You don't need to be powerful or intelligent to want to fuck kids you just have to be a sicko browsing the internet with an unhealthy focus and desire. IMO if it's true then they're not that dumb I think it's pretty clever personally or at least I can't think of many better ways to do it.
Another thing to note is that finding childporn on the darkweb is also a minefield. The FBI is known to have 25+ child porn websites on the darkweb that they operate themselves in order to try and catch pedofiles. It wouldn't be that stupid to revert to hiding in plain site on YouTube which isn't being nearly closely as monitored for that kind of crime.
1 Dougalishere 2017-11-16
I have no idea lol. I honestly don't have a frame of reference when discussing how these peoples minds work. While I agree with everything you have said I was really just highlighting the way groups of people decide how true or not shit is. Maybe I am nieve or paranoid to think that it would be just as possible that this is 20 or so people spamming a load of bullshit on these videos just to propagate the next big "CS" they have uncovered. Likewise, people are happy to be "100% sure Trump fucked a 13-year-old and conspired with Russia" Likewise people are happy to believe HRC Knowingly launders money for child trafficking rings and close friends of hers literally eat babies.
I dunno, I know I am going off on a tangent and my ramblings are not that coherent, sometimes I find it quite hard to articulate what I am thinking and then write it down where it actually makes sense.
1 GorillaOnTren 2017-11-16
No that's entirely possible, you'd just be stupid to assume that it's the case imo. It could be trolls, it could be bots, it could be retarded kids or it could be pedos, I'm willing to entertain any of those possibilities. Anyone saying for sure it is or isn't that must have some information that no one else has..
1 ELP0TP0T 2017-11-16
There are a few comments on different videos on Littleboy Adams profile. A lot of different languages, Arabic, Nepalese, Thai etc. all telling 'Adam' to 'lookout' and 'take care of yourself.'
1 hardluckwoman33 2017-11-16
I've been watching videos on Gematria. Google Gematria. It translates words into numbers. There are several meanings for different words. I use the Gematria calculator that calls itself the best one out there (I think it's the second link on Google). This guy that has a video on Youtube makes a lot of videos on it.
I'm not sure if this means anything but I copied and pasted one of the comments on little boy spider video. Lhvjf tju tctc1wtuippp u
Some of the words that pop up after I searched this are messed up for a comment on a video with a kid in it.
1 ELP0TP0T 2017-11-16
Gonna take a look at that. I was starting to think for the most part, it was random gibberish to attract a potential PM from someone with 'similar life views'
1 hardluckwoman33 2017-11-16
Nah. I've been searching for stuff in gematria and noticed when I'd search regular words, I'd sometimes see gibberish. I was like wtf. Then when I saw this, it made me think of it. I can't say for sure that's what it is but it's just an idea. If it takes people in the right direction to get these people I'm glad.
1 xombae 2017-11-16
The two phrases you returned made my stomach sink. That's more that enough proof for me that these comments are code of some type.
These videos are made to be seen by children, absolutely. I think it's a conditioning thing, whatever group is behind this wants children to be more susceptible to sexual themes, violence, etc.
I see a lot of "this = this" type stuff, especially in the colour related videos. I think their idea is that kids will see Elsa/hero shit in a store or something, and then start remembering the conditioning from the videos, sort of like a trigger.
I feel like these guys have a deeper agenda. Remember how incels thought? How they thought all women should be bred in a facility and handed out to men as wives at the "prime age" of 14? What if there were a group of powerful pedophiles (well, we know there's a ton of super rich pedos) who has a similar ideology? Like that kids should be hyper sexualized so that they were easier to target?
I don't know maybe it's a crazy theory, but these videos scream conditioning, and they were obviously made for kids to find, very young ones.
Seeing the phrase "princess programming" really confirmed all of this for me.
1 Murderaway1997 2017-11-16
Where did you see princess programming?
1 remotehypnotist 2017-11-16
The post above the one you replied to mentioned getting that phrase out as part of a result when they plugged one of the youtube comments into a Gematria calculator.
1 Murderaway1997 2017-11-16
Thanks. I should have looked more closely.
1 remotehypnotist 2017-11-16
Happy to have helped.
1 other_self 2017-11-16
you might be on to something OP. just found this video. scroll down to the comments section and look for the comment that starts with T. It has no context to it, but somehow someone finds a way to make a conversation of it. Expand the comments, and you will find random responses such as "@" and "57". I can see pedos using youtube as a proxy to relay cryptic messages stately.
1 tchollinginthedeep 2017-11-16
Writes one "what if", thinks he's got it figured all out.
1 fortunegunner 2017-11-16
I've seen some folks using a code breaker app that can decode letter swaps and they get some creepy messages out of those comment threads. May be worth looking into.
I'm linking to that post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6ul5f4/this_guy_decoded_creepy_childrens_mkultra_youtube/
1 MorriganBolg 2017-11-16
If this is not a coïncidence, holy shit that is some next level obfuscation right under our noses right there.
1 ALLGROWWITHLOVE 2017-11-16
This looks serious the comments are all in this weird code checked into it myself , definitely something is going on.
1 DrChooch 2017-11-16
What the fuck on those videos.
Why doesn't someone just record these videos with the shown ad, and post it to twitter and tag the company?
1 imnotabotoraboat 2017-11-16
And alert them their code should be revised ...? before someone catches them .. ? ....
1 DrChooch 2017-11-16
Tell them what their ads are being associated with.
The same thing happened back in March when YouTube started demonitizing videos that their advertisers found inappropriate or racist. It was a pretty big deal and there's multiple large channels that did videos about it, like H3H3
1 imnotabotoraboat 2017-11-16
Oh my bad. I misunderstood what you meant in your simple comment lol
1 AntiSocialBlogger 2017-11-16
Well I will tell you I live in Thailand 1/2 the year ( wife is Thai). We have a few young neices like 2 or 3 years old and these stupid videos are all they watch. Literally all day long every day as long as they have their parents cell this is what they are watching.
Seriously my 2 year old Thai neice learned the English words for colors and other English words watching these retarded videos.
She runs around screaming "HELP ME! HELP ME!" parodying what she sees in these videos.
I think it's what someone else said, just little kids that can't read or write typing babble into the comment sections.
1 Skadys 2017-11-16
They also use caesar cipher
1 waveland720 2017-11-16
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOSFyhdhgHdyFzn45ljBFqw On this channel you sent, they have also created playlists. There are kids songs on those playlists. Guys this is getting spooky
1 redditeditard 2017-11-16
This should be reported to multiple law enforcement agencies, and in writing to YouTube ASAP.
1 Meetwad 2017-11-16
But why use YouTube? Why not a less popular video hosting site, or even at all? Why bother making a creepy video that would undoubtedly raise eyebrows when it is inevitably discovered. Human trafficking absolutely happens but from a logical standpoint it would make no sense to insert more risk of being discovered, and behind something as flimsy as a translator. Either these people are just as thick as a short plank, or they are confident they will never be caught and rubbing it in our faces, which I doubt would be worth the effort. I'm geuninely asking for insights, I have no explanation of what these videos could be, but a community is forming around the opinion that they are intentionally malicious rather than creepy videos made by trolls.
1 TaiKahar 2017-11-16
Your comment tells it. Hide something where everyone can see it, is the best way to hide something. Edit: No law enforcement will check further if you just use Youtube. If they find suspicious websites, they may investigate further ;)
1 Torx 2017-11-16
Hate to say it, but from my light digging it does look like kids replying. For a child to type then press send, has to be a 1 out of 30 or 40 chance, right? Weird thing i noticed, the ones who reply usually have one or two videos of a kid, with just the title as the date. Dont know if an adult is recording or another kid is recording but its odd and common. I'd say to you all, dont go investigating yourself into z jail cell, report these findings to authorities and let them dig deeper. Its disturbing how youtube allows this through the youtube kid app.
1 DefNotHillDawg 2017-11-16
Take this over to /pol/ immediately. Those autistists will open this shit up
1 jckfrags 2017-11-16
Hey there is a thread about your code on 4chan right now and it's being astroturfed as hell. http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/149666462#bottom
1 L00kInside 2017-11-16
What is your exact method to decrypt the comments? You give videos and what you think they are saying, but never explain how you're translating the encryption and then the language within.
If your theory holds, just give us your methods and we can decrypt comments ourselves.
Elsagate is real and fucked up beyond belief. I can't help but remain skeptical of someone touting having broken a code that doesn't elucidate how to do so.
1 TaiKahar 2017-11-16
Just use the keyboard he linked and type the letters from the comments. then translate the outcome. You may have to use both options to get a result.
1 L00kInside 2017-11-16
Ahh ok. Ty
1 SnugglesworthII 2017-11-16
Don't bother with these idiots. Elsa gate is real but what OP is talking about is literally just children typing gibberish from their ipads. Very obvious and it's hurts my brain that people are validating OPs stupidity, it hurts the cause.
1 frankthecrank1 2017-11-16
I saw another thread about this last night and someone commenting about searching dates in a foreign language. Like 1 de Juno 2017. Low and behold, almost every date i typed into youtube like that turned up weird candid young girl videos. Then in the comments they would just say a time, like :20. Then when you jump to that time there would be a panty shot or something.
But even more disturbing were the whatsapp comments with addresses...i didn't and wouldn't delve into that.
1 Fancy451 2017-11-16
Good work.
1 1_point_1_day_ago 2017-11-16
This is somehow a Russian scheme to orchestrate a corporate takeover of the US... it just has to be.
Just ask u/pterocles
1 TaiKahar 2017-11-16
Lol, this one "Xxccdxxdii" translates to: Typical applications of DEA activities found in this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPCYIKcKO0Q commenter: พรเทพ เรืองเดช
1 icecream420 2017-11-16
This could be another pizzagate.
It's possible that the same actors from back then are behind this.
I've download the keyboard emulator and hope I can help somehow.
1 larry_b2 2017-11-16
Hi mate, I hope you're still reading the comments you receive.
Just a quick question: couldn't this be a sort of "gang" that trades videos stolen from people's cloud accounts or, perhaps even worst, videos captured remotely without people's consent?
Because that's what it looks like.
Dozens upon dozens of teen women doing what seem like videochats, sometimes clearly attempting to be sexy. Dozens upon dozens of seemingly creepy videos of children, running around and stuff. Home videos, most likely, of children with their relatives in just everyday situations.
Do you think it could be people doing this? Trading homemade (stolen) nude videos, porn tapes, and maybe even CP that they stole but didn't produce? Or do you think this is straight-up people who captured children and are selling them?
1 opco10 2017-11-16
It could just be users advertising "safe" videos for cp(media) swaps in private convos or it could be human trafficking or it could be both, no idea. It definitely could involve some form of central organization, and I think that may be where the elsagate channels come in. I've seen the owners of the channels recognize and interact with certain users so that would support them being the central organizing point.
1 FuckWadSupreme 2017-11-16
Where you now, FBI?
1 SnugglesworthII 2017-11-16
IT'S JUST TODDLERS!!!!! Really that fact is quite obvious. It's children accidentally commenting. This post is why people disregard conspiracies
1 FJR11 2017-11-16
Godspeed.
1 sweetdirty 2017-11-16
My toddler sometimes taps his way into the comment section where random letters are then typed. Now multiply that by all the toddlers.
1 opco10 2017-11-16
Okay, but why are english/spanish/russian sounding accounts typing in thai? Does your toddler use a thai keyboard?
1 socialpresence 2017-11-16
Why are there so many recent comments stating it's just toddlers typing?
1 TheColdPeople 2017-11-16
Holy shit. Someone just linked this to me from NoSleep, where I produced a story on Elsagate. Take them down, /u/opco10. Take these motherfuckers down. I'll get my legions to support you.
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1 Turntupgreens 2017-11-16
should someone contact the FBI?(serious)
1 [deleted] 2017-11-16
We need to contact something but idk what. I think youtube must somehow be in on it because look how many views it's getting. One of the channels is the 7th largest channel on youtube.
1 BestBudzMusic 2017-11-16
Was just reading this post now it’s deleted? Can’t upvote...
1 hillarysuxx 2017-11-16
its deleted!
1 HoldMySodiPop 2017-11-16
Don't you worry! I'll save you https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310761632282443777/380791873733656578/Holy_Shit_I_think_I_just_figured_out_the_comment_gibberish_on_elsagate___conspiracy.pdf here is a copy of OPs original post before he or some mod or admin deleted it
1 YonicSouth123 2017-11-16
Well that one Video with the toddler jumping on the bed is really questionable.
The Videos with the Spiderman Boy, well this looks like abuse, but not in a sexual way, more likely to gather some popularity on Youtube and gather money with using the boy for it. Also people watching those videos or let their kids watch such hillarious stupid shit, well i would really question their cleverness.
The 3rd Youtube link, those People look more like they're from India/Punjab Region, not really Thai. Also the Playlist on that channel hints to Songs form India. They have a distroting and creepy Feeling, well, but i don't think they are related to any pedo stuff. In one Video you can see an elder woman sitting on the couch in the background, would be very amateurish. Also the Jaguar advertise, the cat Video and the Ghee preparation seem to have no relation to such objectives. Here you also have the photo of a pregnant women on the channel, perhaps the person who's behind the channel.
If in serious doubt, report to police or other authorities, they have more resources. They could get get hold of IP adresses and traffic data and get support from the police in those countries.
1 teslamisha 2017-11-16
deleted why?
1 Ax3god 2017-11-16
what did he figure out exactly? im here after it was deleted..someone plz share!!
1 Killzone3265 2017-11-16
his entire account is gone, i had the page left open before i went to sleep earlier and i just came back to this.
something tells me it was his own decision, however, for a good reason. other redditors were flocking to the videos linked commenting "we're coming for you", causing the youtuber to delete all the giberish comments.
seems likely that he just wanted to hold off on this before some bozo's could soil the entire op
1 smoke1101 2017-11-16
Questions are being asked on one video and answered on a separate one.
1 FortifiedSteem 2017-11-16
Archived version: https://archive.is/6SaTN
1 JeremiahSinclaire 2017-11-16
https://aceloewgold.com/2017/07/25/popular-youtube-channels-aimed-at-children-bombard-viewers-with-bizarre-repetition-of-abortion-suicide-scat-eating-torture-other-disturbing-themes/?wref=tp
1 DoSexTheConspiracy 2017-11-16
why was OP's post deleted?
1 opco10 2017-11-16
Keep looking, trust me. I'll admit, some of the links are definitely just home videos that got I mixed up clicking through all the gibberish. But look for the ones that just have dates for titles in particular.
1 opco10 2017-11-16
I found legitimate cp on a channel using this same thai keyboarding
1 TheSecretPlot 2017-11-16
I just mean why even produce videos at all? Why not just message each other on message boards or PM's or anything else? What do the videos provide that another platform or method wouldn't?
1 GorillaOnTren 2017-11-16
No that's entirely possible, you'd just be stupid to assume that it's the case imo. It could be trolls, it could be bots, it could be retarded kids or it could be pedos, I'm willing to entertain any of those possibilities. Anyone saying for sure it is or isn't that must have some information that no one else has..
1 xombae 2017-11-16
We don't want to scare them away before we know what is going on. What is messaging them really going to do other risk any progress that Bay have been made?
1 toast28 2017-11-16
Where do you see this? I'm not clicking on every video to find 1 comment that may or may not be there.
1 WestCoastHippy 2017-11-16
Found the ostrich!
1 sinedup4thiscomment 2017-11-16
It's possible. There are also grown ass men doing this shit.
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1 sinedup4thiscomment 2017-11-16
No, there can only be one explanation for anything. We must have unified, simple truth. None of this complicated intellectual work, please.
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1 slink7 2017-11-16
an hour
an honor
1 dogrescuersometimes 2017-11-16
what slink7 said and a house a hill an herb
1 mtnrddt 2017-11-16
Lol!!
1 yummypeanutjelly 2017-11-16
I’m a techy, not a coder, but dab in many tech fields. I don’t even really know much about what you just said. You think these morons who think kidnapping and trafficking of innocent children would have the brains to figure it out?