Opco10 here(elsagate poster)
197 2017-11-17 by playtoycarti
So u/demandcollect pm'd me late morning(EST) in thai "stopdigging stopdigging (x20)" and I freaked out. I deleted my account and one post(other two on r/elsagate are still up). I just found this old account, the new one I made couldnt post due to community rules so sorry if I left anyone hanging. I will edit my old post into this I guess. Thanks a bunch to the users that took the time to save my stuff, I really appreciate it. And damn u/demandcollect I love a great troll but if my phone hadnt been somehow still recieving messages on my android dropdown and I hadnt seen your last pm I would have destroyed my laptop and fled the state.
Copy pasted:
Post 11/16/2017
DISCLAIMER: DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CONTACT OR BULLY THE CHANNEL USERS. PLEASE HELP TRANSLATE OR FIND EVIDENCE WHICH EITHER PROVES OR DISPROVES THIS THEORY SO WE CAN GET OVER IT.
So it isn't a bot army, at least I don't think so. You have to use a thai keyboard emulator(link: https://www.branah.com/thai), only in pattachote(edit: it varies) I think but possibly both formats. I've only tried out a few comments but it seems very promising.
See my earlier theory(See here : https://www.reddit.com/r/ElsaGate/comments/7d6r4e/elsagate_bot_video/) that the comment section is being used to sell/swap/buy cp or support human trafficking. Tons of short videos of kids linked to creepy gibberish speaking accounts with no views. Lots of them are creepy as shit(see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLaywoHRYWc). And here's the thing, look at the name of the dude who owns the channel: Daniel Thomas. Definitely not thai. Or this:
Initial YT Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL893RsGWmI
[Victoria Mccoy]: “xjdjd shops” translation="I love you" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvqEXsurRVw
If this is the case then this should be busted wide open. I've only been looking at this stuff for two days and don't have enough time to process this stuff fast enough.
Note: so far I have tested a few, the first one i tested was "ny" which translated to "reply." That poster had four homeade videos on their channel. Will keep updating.
Update: Okay, so look at this channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOSFyhdhgHdyFzn45ljBFqw The user commented "may" in thai. They have a bunch of videos including march and april but no "may." What if "may" is the child they're selling?
Update #2: So this stuff is translating, and it may be promising. I just got a location (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wat_Phra_Dhammakaya) from one of the comments on an elsa video and then a commenter reply who had more videos of kids. Interesting
Update #3: Okay so im done searching comment sections on YT for the night, Ive been looking at this stuff all day and it's still gonna be there tomorrow. Will stay on reddit though, I just need to calm myself down so I can sleep eventually. People should start checking the comment sections(need a place to start? Check my previous posts linked above).
Update #4: Okay, I just woke up and want to make some things more clear. First, the "method" of decoding I'm using is very simple: type comment into thai keyboard emulator and then throw the results in a translator. Second, if you do want to help me figure out if this is an international pedo ring or just a bunch of random home videos then please DO NOT contact them, assist in translating or searching for videos. When I was doing my sleuthing I noticed that not every elsagate channel and not every comment section were the same, some seemed to have more videos and comments while others seemed to have more normal comments. Third, I'm super overwhelmed by this stuff and this is just a pet theory. I posted it to this sub(I was just messaging with a few users on r/elsagate before) so it could be vetted. If you see holes in it, post it. If you see potential connections, post it. I would say my "hit" ratio on the suspicious videos/activity was maybe 1 out of every 30 suspicious accounts. These guys are super wary also. I made a post about some cp I found and it was gone an hour later, channel still intact. I think the guy got tipped off by the maybe 20 extra views all at once.
Edit: Thanks for the welcome back!
85 comments
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1 angerie_boi_9000 2017-11-17
Good post AutoModerator
1 Rayfloyd 2017-11-17
Glad to have you back haha
1 jordancro 2017-11-17
I started reading this on my phone in my bed, I am now in the living room with popcorn. Have an upvote.
1 IbonAlliacca 2017-11-17
...definitely on my subconscious mind today, I'm looking forward to how this progresses..
1 JStanley614 2017-11-17
Welcome back
1 LurkMcGurck 2017-11-17
Are you sure u/demandcollect isn't just lawling you into a false sense of security?
/s
Man.. that was one of the funniest things I've seen in this sub.
1 playtoycarti 2017-11-17
If it hadn't sent me into a 15 minute panic attack where I questioned the very foundation of western civillization then, yeah, it would have been funny but not so much in the moment right.
1 numbslutsyc 2017-11-17
you're really pussy
1 User_Name13 2017-11-17
Removed, violation of rule 10, repeated violations will result in a ban from /r/conspiracy.
1 marlowgrey 2017-11-17
"Lulling" ...?
FTFY?
1 LurkMcGurck 2017-11-17
'Twas a joke. A play on words
1 thatshowitlookslike 2017-11-17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LHY3WWiNBs
Francisco Rivera for example. tons of people asking for cp.
1 littlechipmunk_ 2017-11-17
The recommended videos do not sit right with me...
1 littlechipmunk_ 2017-11-17
Never mind they got worse the deeper I digged
1 Mercwithapen 2017-11-17
Oh my god. This is crazy as hell. How do these videos get so many views?? How many pedos are out there???
1 makedesign 2017-11-17
What's bizarre is that a lot of those videos have millions of views... Wtf. That's a hell of a lot of views for some random kid's "morning routine".
Even if this were some sort of masked child ring, you wouldn't expect the viewpoint to be that high. Hell, you'd almost expect the views to be relatively low because they'd be trying to do it on the DL.
1 Mercwithapen 2017-11-17
Very good point. Maybe pedophiles use bots to push up the view count so the videos are easier to find by other pedos?
1 emarionjr 2017-11-17
Right. Like wtf
1 RagingSatyr 2017-11-17
Is that an original video? That is the most stereotypical pedo ever.
1 playtoycarti 2017-11-17
The more I see the more I can't help but think youtube is in on it. The elsagate(we need a better name) vidoes alone must account for hundreds of millions of views.
1 swordofdamocles42 2017-11-17
i know that large view youtubers get dedicated 1 on 1 support. FWIW,
also if its moneytized , YT should have a bank account and legal name.
1 meatballpoking 2017-11-17
There have been monetized videos. And YouTubers suspended or demonetized for trying to expose this almost a year ago now.
I believe when you're monetized that adsense requires your SSN for"tax purrrposes. So how else can this still be a thing?
1 your_boy100 2017-11-17
You could also set up a business, llc of some sort, that collects the money. Also they may have signed up for it in a foreign country who has different laws for taxes and being self employed. That's part of how its still going on. That and Google just not doing shit about the videos. But god forbid you use 3 seconds of a song in a video
1 meatballpoking 2017-11-17
Or make an offensive barely oped video about a news story using said news sites actual headline, but it just so happens to say the word Islam, boom 90% demonetization.
But also I never even thought about creating a business or foreign laws.
1 your_boy100 2017-11-17
Waittttt where did that happen. Im not surprised but I just want to see the video and what the deemed offensive and not worthy of making money(yet YouTube will still take ad money for said video)
1 meatballpoking 2017-11-17
I think it was like gad Saad or Stephan stefan Molyneux someone in that vein. I'll come back and update this post after work for ya duder.
1 your_boy100 2017-11-17
Ok. I know Stephen molenyxu. Or however you spell his name. The other guy I don't know.
1 meatballpoking 2017-11-17
There have been monetized videos. And YouTubers suspended or demonetized for trying to expose this almost a year ago now.
I believe when you're monetized that adsense requires your SSN for"tax purrrposes. So how else can this still be a thing?
Not to mention that this was these YouTubers calling out what was most likely another piece of their system that has since changed slightly. Those videos of the very young kids just using their webcams. Those comment sections used to be filled with middle Eastern and Asian accounts talking about how sexy these 9 year old girls are. One commenter even said something something to the effect of "insert YouTubers name who made videos about what these videos wanting this horrible thing to go away" won't ever stop us. No one can keep us from these beautiful girls."
That's enough of this before noon has even struck. Have a great day, fam. I'll be looking for more from you if it's there by lunch.
1 Moonstar77 2017-11-17
If Youtube are taking 45% of the ad revenue (which seems to be the going rate from what I can tell), they are possibly making way more money than anyone else from these videos.
1 titankingz 2017-11-17
This is some fucked up shit. Didnt even have to hit play to see how fucking creepy this is just by reading the comments on the video. Even creepier to see the related videos! How is this shit even allowed??
1 BOOSHchill 2017-11-17
Screenshot of the comments of some of the comments under one of the videos. He openly says he has cp and people are asking to be added to whatsapp groups and and talking about exchanges.
https://imgur.com/a/z9m5Z
1 thatshowitlookslike 2017-11-17
thats what i was talking about. fucking maggots.
1 Mercwithapen 2017-11-17
Holy hell. The comments alone prove how big of an issue this is. I am using this video for all the shills that claim people are making weird videos just for the money. I think the pedophiles are paying people in third world countries to make this garbage since they can get it on the cheap. I need to vomit now.
1 mangazos 2017-11-17
These pedos have no shame, they are providing their phone numbers and emails to exchange cp.
1 ThisIsMy1stRodeo 2017-11-17
Why was the original thread posted in r/nosleep? I thought that was for “true” scary stories? (I’m fairly new and learning the ropes so please don’t be too harsh on me).
1 playtoycarti 2017-11-17
So my post and the r/nosleep post are completly seperate posts. I think mine was earlier but essentiallly they were aroudn the same time. Neither of us knew about each others posts until another user linked my post to his in the comment section. Then the OP commented on my post which alerted me to his post. It was kind of the final nail in the coffin for me when I read it. Very disturbing. Even the injections made sense in a very, very bad way. Look at some of the kids pupils(freak family is a good example). Super dilated. As soon as I saw them I thought they were on drugs but this, in conjunction with the theme of vaccinations present in some videos, confirms it for me. Everything else he described, eslecially the color coded aspects, was eerily accurate.
1 ThisIsMy1stRodeo 2017-11-17
Yup as a new mom I’m gonna pass. I do not want to see that shit. And definitely don’t want it in any of my browser histories or anything.
1 RagingSatyr 2017-11-17
Username is fire tho
1 RagingSatyr 2017-11-17
Wait I thought nosleep is for fictional stories? How come the comments are reacting like it's real?
1 playtoycarti 2017-11-17
I have pm'd with the user and he says it's real. If you watch the videos you'll see that his assesment of the themes, patterns and characteristics present in the videos are accurate. It's either a very elaborate troll or it's true.
1 RagingSatyr 2017-11-17
No I think it's real, I just thought it was strange for a true story to be posted in that sub.
1 rigorousintuition 2017-11-17
I wasn't sure, and we can't be sure either way if he fluffed the edges of his piece.
It is over dramatic and straight out of a horror movie some of the shit he was coming up with. Time will tell i guess, but i took his story with a grain of salt - i don't think it is beyond possible that somebody analysed these videos and wrote what is essentially fan fiction about them...
1 dnguyen93 2017-11-17
/u/TheColdPeople Everything in that story is entirely true?
1 TheColdPeople 2017-11-17
/u/RagingSatyr
NoSleep is difficult to understand for people who don't regularly visit it. It's not just a subreddit for scary stories. It's actually the world's largest roleplaying community. If you read the official rules of the subreddit, the first rule is that everything here is true.
I am a horror author. I found out about Elsagate because someone talked about it in an AskReddit post. I started googling it, I watched a hundred videos on it, and decided I thought this was important enough that tons of people should see it. So I wrote a NoSleep story that wove the facts of Elsagate into a creepy story.
1 dnguyen93 2017-11-17
That's what I thought. People participating in the role play by commenting as if it was true. You shown awareness about this issue by weaving the themes into your story. So after /u/Opco10 said you told him the story was true, I started to get spooked. You would be the key in the investigation if the story was true. Glad it is not.
1 RagingSatyr 2017-11-17
Alright that makes sense. Was /u/playtoycarti mistaken or lying about the PM?
1 TheColdPeople 2017-11-17
No, I think you are misunderstanding what he said. He asked me if the videos were real. And they are. I furnished plenty of evidence, and also in the story I tell people how to find the videos. (One of the rules of NoSleep is that you cannot provide links or even video names/channel names on youtube, so you have to beat around the bush and say "here is what I typed in to find this video...")
1 playtoycarti 2017-11-17
Ohh miscomunication, I would check my pms but obviously I cant now. I thought I asked "if it was real" not referring to elsagate but to the story.
1 playtoycarti 2017-11-17
Wait, I remember you telling me also that you had contacted the authorities... Was that role play or? And why in a pm when I dont even think Im subbed to nosleep.
1 TheColdPeople 2017-11-17
no I really have talked to the police about these videos.
1 TheColdPeople 2017-11-17
The reason being that I do have a niece, and she did watch a bunch of these things. Just the secret agent/kidnapping shit is a story.
1 garyoak5001 2017-11-17
Maybe you should stick to telling the truth when youre trying to make people care. throwing in bull shit about secret agents trying to kidnap you or your niece makes it easy to call you an asshole pulling our legs. he was asking about your story cause it smells of bullshit anyone can go on youtube and find out these videos are real. but your account is just some guy jumping on the bandwagon making it much harder to make any claim credible
1 TheColdPeople 2017-11-17
/facepalm
it really is exhausting constantly having to explain to NoSleep newcomers that NoSleep is a fantasy roleplaying community filled with exciting fictional stories.
1 garyoak5001 2017-11-17
yeah face falm to myself people are just using your story as evidence. The SAR /nosleep is what helped me find David Paulides. But he did put a disclaimer at the end of his story
1 TheColdPeople 2017-11-17
I suppose Hollywood should also put disclaimers at the end of the Independence Day and Alien film series so that people in the Appalachian mountains do not use them as evidence in support of their abduction claims?
1 garyoak5001 2017-11-17
well thats pretty messed up you have no sympathy for abduction victims. no wonder youre willing to write about your niece getting kidnapped for entertainment
1 TheColdPeople 2017-11-17
straw man
1 garyoak5001 2017-11-17
essentially
1 playtoycarti 2017-11-17
Ahh, makes sense. Sorry for the confusion guys, I didnt know the rules of the sub. The minute details like the color coded objects and rooms, seperate animating tasks and elsagate descriptors were on point. The very ending did leave me feeling like I finished a good novel but the other parts had me freaked out.
1 alloftheproblems 2017-11-17
No sleep stories are fictional. The guy is a writer, check the link at the bottom of the story.
1 KittyHasABeard 2017-11-17
No Sleep is for stories either real or fictional, the point is that you are supposed to treat all of them as though they are real in the comments. So a lot of them are fictional obviously and include great creative writing. But it's also a good place for people with real creepy stories like this one, or I've seen others about people being persecuted for having found out something, to share under the guise of it potentially being fictional as a sort of protection.
1 littlechipmunk_ 2017-11-17
I'm on mobile but I've noticed a few in suggested videos where the girls had written comments on their videos in russian. Can someone translate them and see what the account owners are saying??
1 agent570358201 2017-11-17
Welcome back OP
PS - if you've never received messages telling you to stop you're not even doing it right... Don't flee the country ;)
1 d3rr 2017-11-17
Don't live in fear! The government are the criminals and they can't take us all.
1 PrincessOfDrugTacos 2017-11-17
Need to have a beer and chill out. Welcome back though!
1 jckfrags 2017-11-17
I was emailed stop digging as well haha by some dude called Frogreddit
1 Mercwithapen 2017-11-17
We must be getting close then...
1 fuckingsnowflakes 2017-11-17
You must be getting trolled then...
Ftfy.
1 playtoycarti 2017-11-17
Lol was it in thai?
1 jckfrags 2017-11-17
Nah. He put "Stop" in the subject and "digging" in the message. I asked "Why?" He hasn't replied yet.
1 PM_ME_UR_GLIPGLOPS 2017-11-17
"Nothingburger"
1 jckfrags 2017-11-17
I pulled emails of major Elsagate channels (they post it in the commercial info section)
Here they are: Superheroes Funny superheroesfunny@gmail.com
Webs & Tiaras - An official channel for Toy Monster compilations! rosearendelle@gmail.com
KIDS TRY daveyorgill@gmail.com
Superheroes IRL SuperHeroesIRL@gmail.com
Family Friends Party for Kids youtubejee@hotmail.com
Toy Baby ssix.com@gmail.com
Spiderman & Frozen Elsa IRL contactseezis@gmail.com
Super Colors Baby Show realifeseries@gmail.com
Kid Toy Media hiencntt85@gmail.com
This channels share billions of views between tehm and have millions of subscribers.
1 limecore 2017-11-17
I found rosaarendelle@gmail.com is a channel supported by Studio71. Here is the link: http://archive.is/DTJ5P#selection-87419.7-87419.11
1 jckfrags 2017-11-17
Hey, I think your system works. I translated a strange comment yesterday and found what was said in this comment in the video: https://i.imgur.com/9TnocWu.jpg
I think somebody needs to write a program to translate those coded messages for us, it would improve our performance a lot.
1 SebPMtl 2017-11-17
somekind of scraper/translator.
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1 LordPotsmoke 2017-11-17
Fuck sake that topmindsofreddit is such bullshit, they link you there to insult you and shout you down. Then BAN you for defending your point. I got banned for stating a fact. Sure it was a fact that would upset people but it's a fact none the less. Just because something offends people doesn't make it untrue.
I'm banned or else I'd be arguing with those wankers now. They are re trying to say we are only going after brown people for elsagate
I said that 70% of Muslims come from incestuous relationships. Which is true.
1 Dude_NL 2017-11-17
It appears that pretty much any combination of random characters entered in the emulator result in a relatively legible translation. E.g.
ห้ืายบลททำกดฃผป้เม - Do not press the button.
ๆๆยยฟฟสสฃฃืืเหำ - I'm not sure.
แนสกิำำพรหเนนกดนพฟสสฟรสทำืะห - NASCAR DIVISION PRESS RELEASE
แนืหยรพฟแันพนะ - I love you.
ยนหอำผีไดกนนย - I'm sorry.
(all examples I just made up randomly)
1 LeBrons_Mom 2017-11-17
I got sick to my stomach the other night. My toddler wanted to watch 5 Little Monkeys Jumping on the Bed, and after a search one of the results showed a thumbnail of five kids in costumes. Sure enough, they did do the 5 monkyes song, but then the video turned weird with them tying each other up with duct tape. I had to turn it off because I could tell it was heading in the wrong direction quickly.
1 Downhomedude 2017-11-17
Yeah YouTube is polluted now. You'd be lucky to get past one video without running into something inappropriate
1 BOOSHchill 2017-11-17
Screenshot of the comments of some of the comments under one of the videos. He openly says he has cp and people are asking to be added to whatsapp groups and and talking about exchanges.
https://imgur.com/a/z9m5Z
1 Aaronmcom 2017-11-17
Aint nobody gonna assassinate you son.
That nosleep post is the fakest creepypasta shit Ive ever seen.
1 txstoploss 2017-11-17
Fucking auto-playing videos must die!
1 deucebolt 2017-11-17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuSCnkQ2OgI
the comments what the fuuuuuuuu
1 ThisIsMy1stRodeo 2017-11-17
Yup as a new mom I’m gonna pass. I do not want to see that shit. And definitely don’t want it in any of my browser histories or anything.
1 TheColdPeople 2017-11-17
no I really have talked to the police about these videos.
1 TheColdPeople 2017-11-17
The reason being that I do have a niece, and she did watch a bunch of these things. Just the secret agent/kidnapping shit is a story.