Guys, 150 children are dying everyday of starvation and disease in Yemen. A US backed Saudi coalition is blockading shipments of food and aid that is responsible for this. If we can get Elsagate to go mainstream, maybe we can also bring some awareness to this issue.
757 2017-11-18 by KarmaPolice777
89 comments
1 pilgrimboy 2017-11-18
Sadly, I think it is mainstream and people just don't care.
It's the lead story at the New Yorker right now.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-catastrophe-of-saudi-arabias-trump-backed-intervention-in-yemen
1 KarmaPolice777 2017-11-18
I think people care but we have become so desensitized by reading about stuff like this on the news. We just need to be shaken out of it by reminding ourselves that these are children suffering on a massive scale. We can't care about things like pizzagate/pedogate and turn a blind eye something like this.
The people in Yemen have no one but the good people in the civilized world to advocate for them. They are on their knees asking someone to hear their desperate prayers. All we have to do is bring this up to one or two people that may not have heard about it as uncomfortable of a subject it may be. If enough people shake themselves out of the charm of desensitization, I believe that it's a start.
1 pilgrimboy 2017-11-18
I agree with you. I hope we do change and make things better. We don't need to hear of another genocide and then talk about what we can do next time to stop it.
1 LurkPro3000 2017-11-18
Yeah, as long as invading Yemen isn't he answer. Adding more men with weapons isn't the solution.
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-11-18
True
1 MKULTRA007 2017-11-18
Yet, no one gives a shit about all the Americans left to rot in Puerto Rico. People are dying there too.
1 KarmaPolice777 2017-11-18
Let's not turn this into a whataboutism.
I agree that PR does not receive the attention they deserve. However, it would be disingenuous to compare a place that got hit with a natural catasrophe versus a place people are dying by the hundreds due to a blockade that we as Americans are supporting.
1 joshdabearjew 2017-11-18
The sad part is Puerto Rico probably looks worse than Yemen, and not a single fuck given
1 rayfosse 2017-11-18
You have no idea what you're talking about. Yemen has been at war for years and tens of thousands of people have died and many diseased and starving. Puerto Rico doesn't have power and it's not in great shape, but you can't compare it to an active war zone.
1 KarmaPolice777 2017-11-18
Both PR and Yemen are not getting the attention that they deserve. But PR was hit by a natural catastrophe and our govt as lackluster their efforts may be, are doing something about it.
Yemen's crisis is mainly due in part to our support of SA's bombing campaign and blockade against the nation. They are literally blocking any form of support whether it's food or medicine from entering into the city. They have quite literally weaponized hunger and disease(cholera) with our support.
1 tmntnut 2017-11-18
I think it's also hard for people to empathize with those so far away with no social connection, remember reading something about a monkeysphere theory I believe that dealt with this? Could have been something else but I don't have the time to read up right now, I think that people care but I don't think that people care enough to do anything about it really. Getting it into mainstream news is nice for awareness but what is it really going to do unless people are out there en mass protesting on the streets? Truth is the government could give two shits less what we think, there is no repercussion for them except maybe a little media outrage, then what? It's a shame that innocent people are out there dying and our government can help to prevent that but why would they considering they're the ones supporting it.
1 itrv1 2017-11-18
Its not good for anyones mental health to focus on every single atrocity that happens. We are desensitized because you literally cannot care about most of the world. If you spent every day of your life sad about dying kids in the world, well you're not ever going to do anything but cry about all the dead kids.
Hell there are American citizens that are homeless and starving yet we dont care about them. Why should the people in the US care about people in Yemen if we dont even care about the people here?
1 KarmaPolice777 2017-11-18
We can't care about every single atrocity but when the UN calls something the worst humanitarian crisis in the world, we have to respond in some way.
1 Deriksson 2017-11-18
No, we don't. We aren't the caretakers of the world, we don't want that position, and the American people have made that pretty fucking clear.
1 KarmaPolice777 2017-11-18
If you watched the video, you would know that the US is not a mere observer in this conflict but a participant.
1 Todos1881 2017-11-18
We are helping fund that crisis..you seem to ignore that fact.
1 drgaz 2017-11-18
Seems always a bit unreal to me when someone talks about the good people in the civilized world could be somehow brought to care about that when significant portions of those exact same people don't even care for the weak in their own countries.
1 snapmehummingbirdeb 2017-11-18
What do you consider mainstream?
Most people on Instagram and the like are kissing that part of the worlds and they definitely don't read the New Yorker.
1 pilgrimboy 2017-11-18
Hah. True, I was just thinking mainstream news, but they still aren't even mainstream in that sense.
1 Magameme 2017-11-18
/pol/ got elsagate mainstream. not /r/conspiracy. just saying.
1 r_AUTOFELLATIO 2017-11-18
Lets Ignore the fact that Iran is funding the Houthi rebels in Yemen & they have launched missiles at the Sauds. A Saud/Iran war in Yemen is what is happening. Ignore the fact Obama sent a plane load of cash to Iran knowing they would use it for shit like this. Oh well.
1 KarmaPolice777 2017-11-18
Why are we backing SA against Iran to the detriment 150 children dying daily? Is it this really in our national interest or are we continuing to fuel the war machine? If there is a justification for supporting this proxy war, is there also a justification for indirectly supporting the weaponization of starvation and disease?
1 quadsas 2017-11-18
US isnt backing them anymore. Maybe some Americans are, not US
1 KarmaPolice777 2017-11-18
Did you get a chance to watch the video I posted? Senator Murphy states that Trump has given SA free reign on Yemen.
1 BanMikePantsNow 2017-11-18
SA and the US are both sockpuppets of Israel.
1 joshdabearjew 2017-11-18
Yes, that was an Obama era weapons deal that Trump didn’t stop. The world has had the opportunity to stop SA in Yemen, and nobody is stepping up to definitively bring an end to the conflict. Nations have begun to just “stop supporting the conflict”
1 KarmaPolice777 2017-11-18
During the Obama era, John Kerry at least attempted to mediate some sort of solution. Rex Tillerson as a representative of Trump, has done absolutely nothing. Not a single word on the continuing blockade that has left 50,000 children dead.
1 quadsas 2017-11-18
Keep believing some fucktard senator, mame up your mind
1 KarmaPolice777 2017-11-18
... Everything he is saying is verifiable through alternate sources. Pick a point and I will link it for you.
1 quadsas 2017-11-18
I know what you are going to link me. And I am telling you again.
Keep believing some fucktard senator, make up your mind
Maybe you will understand now
1 KarmaPolice777 2017-11-18
If this doesn't convince you that I what I am telling you is true, then you are hopeless.
1 quadsas 2017-11-18
Super spicy leddit guy
1 quadsas 2017-11-18
I know what you are going to link me. And I am telling you again.
Keep believing some fucktard senator, make up your mind
Maybe you will understand now
1 west_coastG 2017-11-18
i have not heard anything about the US stopping the refueling of saudi f16s that are bombing yemen. i presume we are still doing so.
1 hgtufhtfu 2017-11-18
Saudi Arabia provides America with oil and intelligence services, we also house huge military bars in their country
Iran actively opposes American interests in the region and funds terror organizations.
The new king of Saudi Arabia is actively disbanding the terror systems and corruption that had infested the kingdom for years.
The current war coming with Iran is inevitable, Obama did this with his pivot to Iran during the Isis crisis in his hope that Shia leadership would resolve the issue, it has now led to a broad coalition of Sunni states, plus Israel, to align. In the end it will probably make for a more stability eventually unlike the complete chaos we have had for the past decade.
1 r_AUTOFELLATIO 2017-11-18
I'm a noninterventionist which means i think bad shit happening is impossible to avoid. The Sauds should be doing this. That area of the world should be fighting their own battles. Iran could choose to not escalate but they want this. 150 children dying a day... Show me proof. Maybe stop shooting rockets at the Sauds b/c you want fundamental islamic rule for the region & dont want to modernize it.
1 KarmaPolice777 2017-11-18
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/article184919438.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=YcdzEPaLyWk
The US is a major part of this Saudi lead coalition that has bombed Yemen for the past two years. These strikes purposely targeted the electricity grid which disabled the water treatment facility. This has caused a million people to contract cholera, one of the worst diseases to die from. If you were truly a non-interventionist, you should be heavily critical of what we are supporting over there instead of blaming the Yemenis.
1 kykitbakk 2017-11-18
The Saudis are a key US ally of the region. We rely on them to maintain stability in the region and so that oil is traded in dollars. I get that it's unjustifiable from these kids' perspective. But what is the alternative here? Do we want another Syria, Libya, Afghanistan or Iraq on our hands?
1 DinnerDangles 2017-11-18
All at the hands of the US already they shouldn’t have been giving money to the enemy
1 kykitbakk 2017-11-18
I agree on that point. So the question becomes are they a net positive to maintain as an ally. Things seem to be in flux in KSA right now, hopefully we (US) are pulling some strings.
1 DinnerDangles 2017-11-18
Time will tell
1 rayfosse 2017-11-18
What? The Saudis are way more Islamic fundamentalists than Iran. The Saudis just gave woman the right to drive (with a man in the car) and stone people regularly. Iran is no picnic, but compared to Saudi Arabia it is super modern and progressive.
1 r_AUTOFELLATIO 2017-11-18
The recent purge in SA is an effort Saudi Royal family to bring some reform to middle eastern islam which far surpasses anything Iran is currently doing.
1 rayfosse 2017-11-18
Iran is already way more modern than SA. The recent reforms to allow women to drive and the like are still nowhere close to what Iran already looks like. Over half of Iranian college students are women, they can drive and vote and work, and have a less restrictive dress code than SA. It also has some semblance of a democracy, unlike the SA kingdom.
Do you seriously know nothing about the countries except for a few recent news articles? Iran has become much less fundamentalist in the last decade, but even before it was in no way comparable to SA.
1 Revick 2017-11-18
The recent purge is to solidify the power of the new Monarch that will take over in a few years, Mohammed Bin Salman.
1 Revick 2017-11-18
Both sides are fundamentalists, Iran is actually more progressive than Saud is
1 g9g9g9g9 2017-11-18
Dude, they're Arabs, no one cares
1 szp33 2017-11-18
Elsagate has been discussed here for over 6 months... I'm starting to feel bad for those kids if it takes as long to pick up traction
1 DeathMetalDeath 2017-11-18
just let them flee to europe, that solves everything.
1 kmariey 2017-11-18
RIP Europe
1 feilox 2017-11-18
blacklivesmatter
1 CRFlixxx 2017-11-18
First, all news that comes out of a war zone is propaganda in one way or another. Second read this twitter thread. The guy is a huge Trump cheerleader, but he's the smartest of them and if what he's saying about Saudi Arabia is true, they're on their way to real reform.
https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/927052304498298885
1 Revick 2017-11-18
Mohammed Bin Salman is solidifying his power of there, a friend of mine is interning over there in finance and the purge is being spun to look like some reformist strategy but it's a power move.
1 Brostradamnus 2017-11-18
US forces destroyed political opposition to Saudi influence in Yemen by murdering a ton of them with drone strikes. Apparently it was an accident. This was released by Wikileaks in the famous Cablegate leak about 5 years ago.
1 Meltedbeam 2017-11-18
Perhaps we should focus on starving folks and problems at home first.
1 KarmaPolice777 2017-11-18
We can focus on both.
1 lh_counterpoint 2017-11-18
This. The US causes problems at home and abroad, but suddenly we are trained only to care about what's going on at home again. It's a good way to distract us.
1 ForgingFakes 2017-11-18
Even better, it's a good way to control us.
People think divide and conquer only refers to nationality, political affiliation, sex... It's easy to let your fellow human suffer when they seem a world away. As long as they keep us from becoming united in any way shape or form, they will always control us.
1 themooster32 2017-11-18
Their will probably never be awareness about this issue, as it leads back to Israel, and when ever an issue leads back to Israel it never goes mainstream.
1 __G_A_R_D_E_N_E_R__ 2017-11-18
That's fucking illegal.
1 hbaum11 2017-11-18
They can't eat the $400,000,000 in weapons and equipment Obama disappeared there?
1 Nomar_Garciawhiner 2017-11-18
Go feed the then karma police. Shut up.
1 HoustonWelder 2017-11-18
U.S.A. cannot save everyone. No apologies.
1 ForgingFakes 2017-11-18
The US is backing this blockade...
1 Grizzly_Adams298 2017-11-18
There are 3 types of people in this world. Those who promote evil. Those who stand against evil. And those who do nothing. Where do you stand?
1 HoustonWelder 2017-11-18
Time to take care of our own people
1 msv77 2017-11-18
disgusting vile pig
1 Brendancs0 2017-11-18
I got through on NPR about this
1 Superhero8 2017-11-18
The cia has been running rampant....we need to put out hits....as a world.....this is old news.
1 raglan35 2017-11-18
But it seems brown kids don't matter.
1 bri9and 2017-11-18
so fucked up..
1 emcee-98 2017-11-18
I hope so. Cuz goddamn if ANYONE I know has any inkling of how fucked up the human race truly is.
1 Anrieswish 2017-11-18
People need a break after Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya.
1 smortgoy 2017-11-18
The sheeple are too busy with praising Obama to think about this mess that he started
1 Ol-Painless 2017-11-18
I wanna see it get to 200 by the end of the quarter!
1 bulla564 2017-11-18
Love, Israel.
1 Pandas_UNITE 2017-11-18
You will get downvoted to hell everywhere on reddit bringing up Yemen or Obama in the same sentence much less trumps continued war there. Its a huge profit center for the military industrial complex so it will completely distort media.
1 HussellWilson 2017-11-18
It's not "Trump's continued war", it's Saudi Arabia's war which started under Obama, Trump sold them weapons in a deal started by Obama...
1 WisperingPenis 2017-11-18
All we gotta do is to get Joe Rogan to tweet about it!
1 foreignuserirl 2017-11-18
foreign aid is bullshit anyway. bad things happen & always will.
1 msv77 2017-11-18
maybe stop funding saudi arabia with hundreds of billions of dollars in arms and they won't turn around and massacre civillians, asshat
1 foreignuserirl 2017-11-18
are you retarded? i didn't say anything about that
1 msv77 2017-11-18
sorry it's 4 am off to bed lol
1 xx123cody25xx 2017-11-18
Who cares? Have you heard what EA'S tried to do with star wars?!
1 pepperonihotdog 2017-11-18
I believe their own countries backed my terrorist groups are preventing the aid from getting there. I believe this was reported some 3 months ago
1 hidflect1 2017-11-18
Australia is actively selling weapons to the KSA to help bomb the civillians but all the fking SJW's care about is non-stop coverage of their stupid fking gay marriage plebiscite. Yemen hasn't even been mentioned in weeks.
1 beenpimpin 2017-11-18
But I thought Trump ran on a campaign of non-interventionism?
I'm shocked! Shocked I say.
1 HussellWilson 2017-11-18
Yep, and that's what we're doing: not intervening in a war between SA, our ally, and the Iran backed Houthi rebels in Yemen. Are you saying you want us to intervene?
1 andrazz 2017-11-18
We aint gor enough balls to do so. If we pust that mainstream people are gonna die..
1 invertedlogic79 2017-11-18
What I am really concerned about is are the innocent civilians that are going die. Especially when you consider this is amidst one of the worst cholera outbreaks in the country's history.
https://invertedlogicblog.wordpress.com/2017/11/21/political-opinions32-saudi-arabia-and-human-rights-violations/
1 1heirophant 2017-11-18
From Nov 8th..?
"Saudi coalition lets Yemen's Aden port reopen" - http://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security/saudi-coalition-lets-yemens-aden-port-reopen-idUSKBN1D82LO
1 KarmaPolice777 2017-11-18
The coalition closed all air, land and sea ports to stem the flow of arms from Iran on November 6, after Saudi Arabia intercepted a missile fired towards its capital Riyadh. It has since said that aid can go through "liberated ports" but not the key Houthi-controlled port of Hodeidah.
Now United Nations sanctions monitors have told the Security Council in a confidential report the coalition is threatening the peace, security and stability of the country by blocking humanitarian aid.
Article is from Nov. 18th
http://www.smh.com.au/world/yemen-children-are-dying-at-a-rate-of-130-a-day-while-saudiled-blockade-continues-20171118-gzo21m.html
1 KarmaPolice777 2017-11-18
If this doesn't convince you that I what I am telling you is true, then you are hopeless.
1 msv77 2017-11-18
sorry it's 4 am off to bed lol