I dont really see what it is people like about that show i think its pretty boring

Did you watch it?

yea

Yea so It might actually be you, youre boring sorry

lol i know

I kid your super cool man.

Sell it to us. What makes it so good?

Uhh it's like dreamcatcher but kids and mk ultra?

Not gonna lie, that made me laugh, for what it's worth.

Well I mean that's what it reminds me of tbh. I was just banking on you having seen dreamcatcher

I have seen it, to my own great regret.

Damn youre breaking my heart.

Sorry bae :S

I watched it very much into the whole genre / plot and characters. I think parts of it are very weak, other parts are very good. The whole "stranger things best tv show ever" thing is pretty blind. The last episode of the first season was pure shit. Everything about it was rushed and predictable. I also hate that the writers were only willing to kill the absolutely most disposable character early into the show, then eventually everyone else is back. They also continued the plot into the next season, which I haven't watched, because the pure shock / revealing of the first season seemed to be the most important part, other than that you simply have a bunch of kids running around a city on their bikes. I can't imagine the second season gives you too many "omg wtf" moments since they seemed totally blown on the first season. And nothing about it was so crazy. It was like a very long episode of the X-files in which everyone's eventually forgiven and no one really has to suffer. X-files would have killed more people off and never looked back. Maybe the second season is good, but IDK haven't had time or desire to watch it.

Idk man I kinda disagree on everything besides the long x file episode but that's about it.

Best tv show meh, but that's just hipster rheotric.

Yea man Idk. Some weird reasons you got there.

Season 2 is funny I'm sure you'll like it.

I usually don't say things like this, but the 2nd season of Stranger Things surpassed the first. But then again, I look at shows in a completely different way and look for symbols and esoteric meanings....which season 2 is packed to the brim of them so much so that I want to go back and rewatch season 1 to see what I missed.

Ya me neither. I hate that after two seasons I still have no idea about what this shadow world exactly is. I think the narrative is very confusing and the plot really lacks depth. Good acting tho, and you gotta love Wynona, absolute goat.

i think mr robot is about 17X more interesting

Conceptually, I agree, but I really don't like the acting and the predictability.

Ngl sounds like you didn't even watch it. The shadow world is explained like every episode after the first 3/4mm

Idgi

Then what is it? Because I simply do not understand

The upside down?

Parallel universe maybe but considering it was kinda like a silent hill type universe Idk. Tbh it could just be another dimension.

Tbh leaning towards another dimension because a universe would entail difference results.

See the thing is, the series could have made an effort to explain this, but it's risky to do this, so they just decided to make it all about some bunch of cute kiddos who don't really change throughout the entire series.

But they did though? I also don't think it's that important at this point and time in the show. Idk man all of them changed especially if your looking at both seasons.

Considering the show is centered around children I would only imagine the show was go about it as if kids.

Upside down is like kiddie alternate dimension?

Idk i think you're being to serious?

Side note the only people who know what it is was the government so you know how that goes.

They do explain the basics of it. Yes they never explain how 11 found the demagorgon/how she made contact, they don't explain the shadow monster fully but why's that a bad thing?

The point is not even the scientists studying it can work it out and the kids only can understand it by using dungeons and dragons enemies/ideas

I know, that's what I was trying to say. To me it was a missed chance not to explain anything, but then again I'm an avid detectives fan so that might explain my need for an explanation.

The thing is the show really isnt about the upside down etc. Its about the characters

But do you think the charachter progress or scriptwriting is anything sensational or groundbreaking. Because apart from the music, which I think is pretty damn good, I don't see anything groundbreaking or exceptional.

I hate when things explain everything, personally. Makes me feel like the people writing the show/film are condescending and treating me like an idiot, so I tune out. It's why I hate films that explre the back story fo horror villains to try to explain why they are the way they are, rather than leaving well alone and allowing the mystery to remain.

I concur. It is unwatchable terrible garbage

atleast In not the only one lol i think there alot of better shows

Can you recommend any homme?

what do you like? comedy? sci fi?

Sci-fi but not fantasy/adventure type stlye bud

westworld is Ok, i could prob recommend more sci fi movies than shows. If your a fan of the matrix you might want to check out the animatrix, i saw a movie called snowpeircer which was pretty dope, theres a movie called Moon thats pretty good, ill think of more later

i like the mindy project haha

The OA

It's disclosure. Be patient. The public has to be eased into it.

It has to be watered down first

And deception added to it

Someone's been watching.

That's why they make such things into "fictional" books and movies. So people associate it with something that is just made up.

So much this. First thing that popped into my head when I saw previews for that geoengineering movie.

geostorm? yea i saw that. it's absurd how they made a movie based on project indigo skyfold but it's supposed to be fiction. even though it's set in 2019... hmmm

I can't wait to see if my next book gets dissected on conspiracy boards as "The alphabet agencies trying to prepare us for what's coming using fiction" when it all popped into my head randomly and I thought it was something cool to write about.

If it does, you could always bring it up as a counter argument. Until then I really couldn't care less about your predictions regarding imaginary books.

great show, stranger things!

Is that what stranger things is about? Sounds like I need to see it!

I was going to say the same thing. I thought it was a kids show.

it is. it's p much harry potter with a spooky halloween skin.

The kids are more of a comic relief to the overall darker tone, and they are pretty fantastic young actors in my opinion. The show has some pretty decently gory scenes along with a fair amount of explicives for what I would consider a kids show to be fair.

Totally agree. Those kids are very good actors. It seems like they have a genuine connection to the material.

Tbh I think older people like it just as much if not more, plus it'd scare the shit out of me if I was a kid... But then again the X-Files intro used to creep me out pretty bad.

Tried watching xfiles recently? It's still scary. The new season is a massive red pill IED btw

Yeah I'm excited for the new one coming out soonish too. I don't think the last seasons were amazing but also don't think they deserve all the hate they get.

Definitely not a kids show!

Tried two episodes last night, got pretty interesting but way to scary for me when Im laying in my bed alone. Its a daytime series if Youre a pussy like me:-p

The show is fantastic and pulls no punches with regard to many MKULTRA programs.

Aside from the location (changed to Anytown, USA) it is a very good primer for the masses.

It's great.

Jeez, there's still people in this sub that haven't watched Stranger Things??? ST is awesome and wades heavily in CT concepts, plus it's very Spielbergian but without the sex abuse. Win/win

Only watch season 1, season 2 was the biggest disappointment....

That's why they put truth in sci fi and fantasy movies/tv shows. So when it gets discussed in real life, it can be written off as sci fi mumbo jumbo.

Bingo, the same reason anyone discussed MKUltra, they were accused of taking "The Manchurian Candidate" a little too seriously. It's a way to hide in plain sight.

Denausable pliability.

I only recently heard about stranger things having some MKULTRA ideo behind it. And i finished it a couple of days ago. I been scratching my head how this is a netflix hit series. Known about mkultra for years. WILD times. And i said the same 15 years ago.

They even mention MKULTRA in the show. I think it was 2nd season

I been scratching my head how this is a netflix hit series

It's because it's a science fiction show that's the current popular fad.

I love both.

Agreed. I know how you feel. Most people you try to talk about it actually being based off of VERY real events/government programs start to roll their eyes as soon as it is no longer entertaining mind-numbing fiction.

Now you know the power and psychological weaponry that is entertainment.

Interesting, I remember in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Montauk was an important location in the story

Yeah for sure, and it involved mind control/erasure. Such an awesome movie, my favorite of all time actually. It effected me so deeply for some reason.

Gotta love Jim Carey

The evening news is fiction and the truth is hidden in entertainment. It is designed to disorient us.

After reading about Gateway and Hemi-sync, as I was watching this show I was losing my mind. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Then in Season 2 where the investigative journalist was giving the "watered down" analogy to get the public to accept what they were saying, the irony was ridiculous.

Thing is, the only things we know about projects like that are from the interviews and books of those who claimed to have been there, and it all just sounds completely insane and with no evidence of any of it happening.

I'd like to believe it was a real thing but it all just sounds too fantastical to take seriously. That's why the show is so beloved, because it's a science fiction show (emphasis on "fiction") and too unbelievable to have really happened.

I've been saying this for the longest time. Same with sense 8.

Great post. Agreed. Looked into this after the original season sparked too many questions, and then found Montauk. WHOAH. Dangle much? The media is how they seek to control and normalize

Good breakdown of all of that in this video https://youtu.be/2F4LA73MKNM

Did any of y'all catch the Invisibles references?

Can you give a crash course on Montauk project?

The thing is the show really isnt about the upside down etc. Its about the characters

See the thing is, the series could have made an effort to explain this, but it's risky to do this, so they just decided to make it all about some bunch of cute kiddos who don't really change throughout the entire series.

I hate when things explain everything, personally. Makes me feel like the people writing the show/film are condescending and treating me like an idiot, so I tune out. It's why I hate films that explre the back story fo horror villains to try to explain why they are the way they are, rather than leaving well alone and allowing the mystery to remain.