Zionism is not Judaism
5 2017-11-27 by Zeteo9
Does anyone disagree with my post title? If so, tell me why you think Zionism = Judaism.
Why am I saying this? Although I deny the holocaust (WWII allied propaganda), I cannot stand folks who demonize all Jewish people. "THE JEWS DID IT!" Prove it. Prove that WWI and WWII were committed by God fearing, Shabbat keeping Jews.
Unless you can equate Zionism to Judaism, you shouldn't be blaming Jewish people for the mess we find ourselves in.
I believe part of Zionism's success is appearing to be one and the same as Judaism.
People see acts of Zionism and attribute them to Judaism. Your hate for Zionism is now a hate for true monotheism, as Judaism is defined.
I hope I made some sense. Thanks for reading.
TLDNR: Zionism masquerading as Judaism creating a wave of antisemitism that could potentially escalate into another world war.
71 comments
1 Gene_Rosens_Daycare 2017-11-27
Oy vey, where ya been? No comments or posts for 18 days. Then you come up with this lil gem out of no where?
1 Zeteo9 2017-11-27
Oy vey, sarcasm level 100...
1 RMFN 2017-11-27
What's the conspiracy?
1 Zeteo9 2017-11-27
Zionism masquerading as Judaism creating a wave of antisemitism that could potentially escalate into another world war.
1 RMFN 2017-11-27
Who are the conspirators?
1 IBlockShills 2017-11-27
The Zionists.
1 RMFN 2017-11-27
Who happen to be?
1 IBlockShills 2017-11-27
The Rothschilds and their affiliates. Those who created modern Israel as we know it, and who have most of the power and wealth in this world. TPTB.
1 RMFN 2017-11-27
And what religion might they be?
1 Zeteo9 2017-11-27
Not one based on the prudent fear of an Almighty Creator (i.e. Judaism). I would guess Darwinism or 'survival of the fittest'.
1 RMFN 2017-11-27
Says you.
1 Zeteo9 2017-11-27
"I would guess" Yup. Correct. Sounds like I said it. In fact, I was just guessing. Although, it was an educated guess.
What says you?
1 IBlockShills 2017-11-27
Who knows? I'd like to think that they probably practice the religion of the ancient Canaanites. Some of them were Jewish, some weren't.
1 lordbananafist 2017-11-27
whatsamatter? you don't like violence?
1 Mountaingiraffe 2017-11-27
Why do you deny the holocaust?
1 Zeteo9 2017-11-27
Because it never happened. I'm sorrynotsorry. I don't know what else to say. Well, do you believe in Santa? lol
1 Mountaingiraffe 2017-11-27
Do you deny the existence of... Mongolia? No? Why not? Because mountains of evidence exist against it? How is that possible?
1 Zeteo9 2017-11-27
Speaking of mountains....how much ash is produced from the burning of ~6 million people? Mountains? How much time does the burning process take for burning an average adult? Explain the process for me, in a logical, easy to understand manner.
Also, Why are there no traces of Zyklon B found in main, alleged gas chambers, yet it is only found in small gas chambers used to disinfect inmate clothing (as the Germans documented the spread of typhus)?
How is what possible? They lied to you and I? Oh, it's very possible...it's reality, sadly.
1 Mountaingiraffe 2017-11-27
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1 grndzro4645 2017-11-27
About 6 million cubic feet.
1 TheMadQuixotician 2017-11-27
What? Who said that?
1 Mountaingiraffe 2017-11-27
OP in this post
1 TheMadQuixotician 2017-11-27
Wow my mind automatically threw a "don't" in before the word deny, thanks
1 Mountaingiraffe 2017-11-27
It's an insidious post.
1 TheMadQuixotician 2017-11-27
I wanted to support the notion that Zionism ≠ Judaism, but that bit muddies the water :/
1 Mountaingiraffe 2017-11-27
Well, we could discuss that, but the other thing kinda muddies the water
1 TheMadQuixotician 2017-11-27
Exactly, conflating the two arguments (likely on purpose) in an attempt to draw attention to a (supposed) consensus, which in fact is meant to make this place look bad. Verisimilitude at its finest
1 Zeteo9 2017-11-27
WTF are you going on about?
Is it that strange to you that I do not believe in WWII allied propaganda (holocaust, holohoax, hollywood), yet, at the same time, refuse to make blanket statements regarding Jewish people being some kind of evil parasites? In fact, I'm trying to clear the name of all GOD fearing Jews. They had nothing to do with the lies that you obviously choose to believe...
P.S: I'm not being paid to say what I'm saying, otherwise, you might have a point.
1 TheMadQuixotician 2017-11-27
Holohoax is just as much a hoax as the narrative story. The whole point is to bury the truth through education so that it's never discovered.
1 Zeteo9 2017-11-27
I like that point of view. Very much true; however, when it comes to 'The Holocaust', one must get definite answers to certain questions. For example, did Germans stuff millions of Jews into gas chambers, gas them, and set them all on fire via ovens? Did Germans make soap and lamps out of Jews? Yes or No? There is no middle.
Not sure if I understand your point. Holohoax implies Holocaust narrative is false. Why is that a hoax? Elaborate.
1 grndzro4645 2017-11-27
The Sun New York June 6 1915 Six million Jews are being persecuted in Russia.
New York Times Oct 8 1918 6,000,000 Jews need help , fund to rebuild Jewry.
New York Times Sep 8 1919 Ukrainian Jews aim to stop pogroms , Six million in peril.
New York Times Nov 12 1919 Jews worst victims of war sad plight of 6,000,000 Jews
Atlanta Constitution Feb 23 1920 Fund needed for Six Million Jews in eastern Europe and Palestine.
New York Times May 7 1920 Six Million Jews suffering starvation in East Europe.
New York Times Jul 20 1921 Save Six Million in Russia , massacre threatens all Jews.
Montreal Gazette Dec 29 1931 Six Million Jews face starvation in south eastern Europe.
New York Times May 31 1936 Intolerable suffering of millions of Jews in the European holocaust (1936 before the war!?)
New York Times Feb 23 1938 Six Million!!!! Jews deprived of protection in central Europe.
That was all before there were any work camps!
1 Mountaingiraffe 2017-11-27
What the hell are you trying here? Should I believe any of these sources?
1 grndzro4645 2017-11-27
IDFC. Believe what you want.
1 Mountaingiraffe 2017-11-27
You seem to believe whatever you want, not what is factual
1 grndzro4645 2017-11-27
This link was posted here by someone else. I don't make shit up.
1 Mountaingiraffe 2017-11-27
I have another link. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leuchter_report
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1 grndzro4645 2017-11-27
That doesn't change the fact that if Zyklon B were used at Auschwitz the concrete would be stained blue. And it isn't.
1 Mountaingiraffe 2017-11-27
Is that your whole argument now?
1 grndzro4645 2017-11-27
Go look through 300 pages + links here
There is plenty out there, I don't need to hold your hand in finding it all.
1 Mountaingiraffe 2017-11-27
Hahaha
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-27
I think you're very very right. Too many people go straight to the 'oul triple brackets on this subreddit without any real basis. On a tangent Im newish to the idea of the holocaust being complete propoganda, can ye share some resources? And what do you make of sites like Auswitch? Not a shill, looking for education on topic
1 grndzro4645 2017-11-27
Holocaust deprogramming course.
1 Zeteo9 2017-11-27
Concentration camps existed, and do exist; however, they were never used to make soap out of Jews. Neither were they used to gas/burn them to ashes. Concentration camps were designed where inmates (potential enemies of the state) would work for their freedom, in times of war. Nothing more, nothing less. The majority of deaths within these camps were due to Typhus, starvation due to allied bombing (near end of war), and natural deaths of course. Having said that, I would imagine Nazi officers took their anger out on a Jew here and there (perhaps even killed some intentionally out of spite). There are documents stating the consequences for such Nazi officers who took it in their own hand to punish inmates. It was not allowed. National Socialist Germans were not evil people.
Resources: look up David Irving, David Cole in Auschwitz
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-27
Downvoted for ignorance, agreeing with the zion thing or saying shill. We may never know. I absolutely will, but i do have one more question i wanna ask, just about zyklon B (or whatever the chemical was) and why it was.... i suppose found at the camps? Or generally why it exists if not used for killing. I suppose i just answered my own question, it was probably used as a bio weapon huh? Like mustard gas
1 grndzro4645 2017-11-27
If Zyklon B was used in the gas chambers the concrete would have been stained prussian blue.
1 IBlockShills 2017-11-27
Not OP but I can get this one. Zyklon B was the preferred pesticide for treating lice and fleas. I have even seen examples of pre-WW2 advertisements for Zyklon B being used in delousing chambers (which look suspiciously similar to the "gas chambers" found in some concentration camps.)
Delousing was important because lice and fleas are a vector for typhoid fever, a deadly disease that can easily spread in close quarters, especially among people living in substandard conditions.
In fact, many of the pictures of the dead we have seen in the concentration camps display the symptoms of typhoid fever, and a lot of evidence points to these deaths being caused by that and malnutrition due to German supply lines being destroyed by Allied bombing.
Oh, and the 6 million figure is almost certainly inaccurate.
Jewish prophecies in the Torah require that 6 million Jews must "vanish" before the state of Israel can be formed. "You shall return minus 6 million." That's why Tom Segev, an Israeli historian, declared that the "6 million" is an attempt to transform the Holocaust story into state religion. Those six million, according to prophecy, had to disappear in "burning ovens", which the judicial version of the Holocaust now authenticates. As a matter of fact, Robert B. Goldmann writes: ". . . without the Holocaust, there would be no Jewish State." A simple consequence: Given six million Jews gassed at Auschwitz who ended up in the "burning ovens" (the Greek word holocaust means burned offerings), therefore, the prophecies have now been "fulfilled" and Israel can become a "legitimate state".
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-27
Thank you kindly. How informative!
1 IBlockShills 2017-11-27
You are very welcome!
1 Zeteo9 2017-11-27
Zyklon B was used to gas the clothing of inmates (to battle spread of typhus) within ACTUAL gas chambers (real gas chambers, not the BS you see with holes in the roof, windows, and doors that do not operate or operate from the inside! lol).
You're calling me ignorant? Excuse me, sir, but I think you have this backwards...
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-27
Ah no sir! My own ignorance i was reffering to. No offence intended. Ahhh okay! Thank you sir~
1 Zeteo9 2017-11-27
I apologize. You see, you are a rare individual on this social network. I have never come across anyone with your kind of humble. I commend you, sir.
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-27
Thank you kindly, im just glad to have a chance to learn from someone else on here. Especially because the no holocaust thing to me was one of "those conspiracies" for so long. But all of the replies on here are very informative and interesting. So many thanks to you to my good man
1 Zeteo9 2017-11-27
Don't take my word or anyone's word for that matter. Keep digging, and you will connect the dots.
I'm assuming you're Irish (username). I happen to live with Irish folks, actually. Very honest and sincere, like yourself. Great people! Cheers, brother.
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-27
Ah Interesting and fact are very different. I prefer to see every side of a story and then start digging. Provides clarity, helps distinguish between those wanting something to be true and the truth. Opinion is always a good starting point wouldnt you say? And aye! Thank you for saying so! Have a very pleasant evening my friend.
1 Mountaingiraffe 2017-11-27
this is great starting point
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-27
Thank ye kindly
1 exicleus 2017-11-27
All ideologies and religions can be taken to an extreme.
Equal opportunity with radicalism and terrorism.
1 ConspiracyAccount 2017-11-27
You clearly haven't met many jews.
1 htok54yk 2017-11-27
Well, the non-Zionist Jews like to vamp on mutilated baby penises while stealing Food Stamps—they ain't so great!
1 Zeteo9 2017-11-27
You can argue that their culture is perhaps strange to you; however, a love of circumcision and food stamps does not imply world domination via aggressive usurious banking and military.
You just love to hate Jews maybe?
1 IBlockShills 2017-11-27
Absolutely. I also don't think the Holocaust happened at all like we have learned (only ~100,000 Jews died), but I generally like Jewish people and some of them are the nicest people I know.
You absolutely can question WWII propaganda without being anti-semitic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It is just a method of silencing people who speak the truth.
1 Mountaingiraffe 2017-11-27
This is great link If you are intesested
1 grndzro4645 2017-11-27
271 thousand according to the Red cross. And that is across all of Germany, including those that died of starvation, and typhus.
At least 15 million Germans died as a result of WW2. Check the census reports.
1 IBlockShills 2017-11-27
The 271K estimate included non-Jews as well. About 100K of the 271K were Jewish. Yup, the Bolshevik communists had their way with the Germans after the war, and committed some really heinous acts. Not to mention the totally unnecessary firebombing of Dresden, which was the real Holocaust.
1 vidarheheh 2017-11-27
The ordinary jew not really religious, but rabbis and their kin are just as bad as zionists. Maby not in a world domination way, but in a just bad bad people kind of way
1 rgeberer 2017-11-27
And Christian ministers and priests are not "bad bad people?" And by the way, I'm a Jew and I'm religious.
1 vidarheheh 2017-11-27
Oh yes, they definitively are. Just the vatican spent 3,4 BILLION dollar on sexual settlements in 2014 or 15, dont remember. Everyday a new story breaks where a priest, rabbi, or something like that have been caught abusing children. By all means, be religious, I consider myself somewhat religious myself, only more in the spiritual sense, I dont rely on other people to tell me how I should feel and act. Not when those same people literally are responsible for constant suffering the last 2000 years.
1 rgeberer 2017-11-27
I agree, BUT many, perhaps most, Jews are Zionists.
1 Zeteo9 2017-11-27
I would like to see a poll or something more tangible prior to accepting it as truth; however, I can see why most Jews would want to be Zionists. I would also not be surprised if you were accurate. After all, they've got Christians brainwashed enough to join in droves...so why not Jews? There's a bigger incentive for Jews to be Zionists.
1 vidarheheh 2017-11-27
Oh yes, they definitively are. Just the vatican spent 3,4 BILLION dollar on sexual settlements in 2014 or 15, dont remember. Everyday a new story breaks where a priest, rabbi, or something like that have been caught abusing children. By all means, be religious, I consider myself somewhat religious myself, only more in the spiritual sense, I dont rely on other people to tell me how I should feel and act. Not when those same people literally are responsible for constant suffering the last 2000 years.