I want to believe.
11 2017-11-28 by Irishconspiracy
Why do you think it is the governments are hiding aliens from us? When do you feel we were first visited? Have you had your own encounter or similar phenomenon?
11 2017-11-28 by Irishconspiracy
Why do you think it is the governments are hiding aliens from us? When do you feel we were first visited? Have you had your own encounter or similar phenomenon?
58 comments
1 ab_ovo_usque_ad_mala 2017-11-28
The chances are we've never been visited by aliens. The universe is big. It's unlikely they know we're even here.
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
I find myself agreeing with that outlook. For the most part its unrealistic to assume they happened to come here. Im more interested in collecting opinions though ye see
1 httr_barbarian 2017-11-28
the best slave slave is one that thinks he is free.
1 johnwilliamsii 2017-11-28
Gotta be trolling.. What you've just said is contrary to the scientific opinion and common sense.
1 ab_ovo_usque_ad_mala 2017-11-28
Try to think about the true vastness of the universe. Common sense says any lifeforms out there wouldn't know we are here.
1 lawofconfusion 2017-11-28
Except that we've already found many planets that probably have life in our own stellar neighborhood. This number will only increase the longer we observe and the more telescopes we build. It stands to reason that these planets will harbor similar evolutionary life patterns as ours, and they will look out and find our planet as an ideal candidate for life. Any race able to build interstellar transport vehicles nearby would certainly be curious about Earth given its ideal conditions for life.
1 ab_ovo_usque_ad_mala 2017-11-28
Yeah, because there's no end of species capable of interstellar travel living "nearby".
We've found planets that maybe capable of supporting life. It's not actually finding life!! :-p
1 lawofconfusion 2017-11-28
Because our star is relatively young compared to others that we have observed. Stars nearer to the center of the galaxy tend to be older, thus life would have evolved billions of years earlier on these older star systems.
Additionally, planets even within our own solar system were inhabitable to complex llife forms before us - specifically Venus may have been inhabitable over 2 billion years ago. That is a long time for life to have possibly evolved - and that is just within our own solar system. It stands to reason that other nearby star systems had planets that also were inhabitable long ago that could have hosted advanced life before we were even out of the bacteria stage.
Another point, is that you say we've found planets only capable of bacteria level. However, I'll give you at least one counter example - https://www.nasa.gov/ames/kepler/nasas-kepler-discovers-first-earth-size-planet-in-the-habitable-zone-of-another-star
Note that to find a planet takes a long time of observation. From these distances we can only infer their existence from the light that is periodically missing from the light we see from the star. That means that if the planet is on an orbit whose elliptic plane is not in line with ours, it is much less likely that we will notice it. This means that there are tons more planets out there than we have even observed just within our stellar neighborhood.
1 ab_ovo_usque_ad_mala 2017-11-28
You might want to check your definition of "habitable zone"....
1 lawofconfusion 2017-11-28
Okay, how about a more recent discovery of seven such planets https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-telescope-reveals-largest-batch-of-earth-size-habitable-zone-planets-around
Surely at least one could evolve complex life, no?
1 ab_ovo_usque_ad_mala 2017-11-28
Again, a planet in the habitable zone has no guarantee of actually being habitable. There's far to many variables involved. Yes, life COULD exist there...I never said there wasn't life out there. I personally doubt it, but statistically there should be.
The chances are, that life hasn't visited Earth, it's almost certain.
1 lawofconfusion 2017-11-28
Thats where we disagree - I believe that if life can exist, it will exist. That is a personal belief that I can't prove to you, though, so until we gather more data we can only speculate.
1 ab_ovo_usque_ad_mala 2017-11-28
"If life can exist, it will exist"....
That's an extraordinary leap.
1 johnwilliamsii 2017-11-28
Dude... I'm not getting drawn into a nonsensical argument. I'll just tell you that you're wrong and leave it at that. The universe is infinite.. Infinite time, infinite space. Humans are a very new species. If the earth is one year old, we arrived at 11:59pm on the last day of December. To think that we are the only planet with life in INFINITY is a little narrow minded to say the least. And to think that any other possible lifeforms lack the ability to observe other planets or to travel outside their own star system is likewise as dumb.
1 ab_ovo_usque_ad_mala 2017-11-28
We don't know whether the universe is infinite or finite. We have theories, but they are theories at best. For you to say categorically one way or the other is narrow minded of you.
The universe (and our galaxy actually) are around 14 billion years old. Our solar system is around 4 billion.
It's unlikely that there are species capable of installer travel, even of any scientific thought at all in our galaxy and they've had the same amount of time to evolve as we have,
We've had 4 or 5 billion years to get to where we are, and we have fish and dogs, and elephants, and snakes here as well. Any of them go to an advanced technical stage? No, we are the only species in 4.6 billion years to do so here, so why are you so sure that it's happened anywhere else?
There are a lot of pretty exact variables that enable life on this planet - distance from the Sun, the Moon, the composition of the atmosphere...all sorts of things.
But hey, you don't want a conversation. No worries. Take care.
1 TheHohenbergerEffect 2017-11-28
I personally go back and forth from thinking that aliens are hidden from us or a psyop. It is a really murky subject full of a lot of attention seekers.
1 deejayfuckinmoon 2017-11-28
Pretty sure the Men In Black movies are a documentary.
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
I seriously wanna believe will smith is an MOB agent hah. Could be a mockumentory though. Its not impossible
1 Herculius 2017-11-28
That...
Is retarded.
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
I said itd be funny not believeable 4 teh memes man 4 teh memes
1 johnwilliamsii 2017-11-28
Well the movies are not based on nothing.. Placing it in the realm of comedy would be a great move for the people who want to keep people from questioning anything around the subject.. Make it fantasy, the opposite of reality
1 PhunnelCake 2017-11-28
Tommy Lee Jones’ cousin is a CIA clandestine officer
1 httr_barbarian 2017-11-28
((They)) believe that society truly depends on ((them)). So many systems, political; geopolitical; economic; societal, all finely tuned for ((their)) favor. ((they)) believe disclosure would threaten these systems and sap ((their)) power.
To put it simply, ((they)) don't think the common man can handle the truth. Would disclosure result in a paradigm shift in power? Would it distract men from paying their taxes or worse - would men choose not to function in society as we know it, today?
And then comes the narrative building - much like the the MSM today, except the content becomes: who are they; where did they come from; why now; what are their motives; who are their masters; are we significant to their survival? are they significant to ours?
it's kind of a can of worms.
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
Im kind of glad (((they))) got brought into it. It was invitbal that it would come back to it i suppose. Why do you reckon its (((them))) who have the knowledge though? Also in your opinion where does (((them)) stop being (((them))) and start being a dude who happens to be jewish?
1 httr_barbarian 2017-11-28
~"Also in your opinion where does (((them)) stop being (((them))) and start being a dude who happens to be jewish?"
irrelevant.
Also - the knowledge is out there; there are many people from very prominent backgrounds with the upmost of respectability that have said it to be true, or at the least have acknowledged the possibility of it - which is far from denying the existence of disclosure.
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
I mean as far as the ((( they))) part goes its kind of relevant. I mean. (((They))) are zionistic villians intent on controlling the media, our information and "all dah money's" and like... a jewish dude could be just as in the dark. It may seem trivial but Irish boys collecting opinions and info so shrugs As for aliens i believe its possible they are withholding information but to what end?
1 ZeerVreemd 2017-11-28
Making know to the public that ET's already are here also would mean "they" would also need to explain the zero point energy the ET's introduced and "they" are using against humanity. It would also mean the complete history of humans and all science books need to be re-written and wour actual history is not very flattering for "them".
"their" end game is the complete take over of any humans left after some created "natural" events. "they" are trying this by means of creating a complete new digital matrix. This new matrix will use 5G, rfid chips the internet, AI and other technologies to cut people completly off from nature's energy source, the unconsious self and the universal consiousnesss of humanity. AI will run this artificial frequency based matrix and people will be pushed or forced to keep within "their" limits by all means possible. We are already feeding the AI with all the information it needs and soon everything involving you is monitored and/ or controlled.
The artificial extraterrestial matrix we are now living in has some controll over people, but people are still able to get in contact with their unconsious self and the commen consiousness we are all part of. This is now difficult already, but with Love or some knowledge most people are able to get in contact. The new digital matrix will try to cut this contact completely, leaving humans even more "lost" and in chaos than we are now.
The reasons? Well, it is not only controll over people, power and money. We humans are way more powerfull than we know now and if we ever find out what we are actually capable off "they" literary can't excist along us anymore. The reason for the matrix is to keep people and this "reality" in a low vibration state. "they" need it to be like this becouse they live of the negative energy of people. Once enough people wake up and resign their fear for "them" and start living according our natural state of Love "they" will soon run out of "food" and the artificial matrix will collaps.
This also explains all the pushback against the truth in all area's of our life. "they" absolutely do not want us to start thinking and waking up, their existence in this "reality" is at stake and "they"are literary fighting for their lives here.
1 Little-nug 2017-11-28
look into CERN. i believe they opened up a portal through which aliens can travel and energy from this world can be harvested. theres some good conspiracy videos on youtube about it.
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
Define energy? Ive heard stuff about soul harvesting but you could be talking about actual power. Also is this your belief or are you sharing a resource
1 JustGhostin 2017-11-28
I’m more so of a train of thought we likely live in a computer simulation.
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
Explain yerself me boyyo! The more theories the merrier.
1 mastigia 2017-11-28
I think people seek a simple answer to this question and it doesn't exist. I imagine our government's relationship with aliens is just as or more complicated than their relationship with any other foreign powers.
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
The implication of contact implies power greater than that of earth. To say it would be more complicated is an understatement.
1 IHAVESEEN 2017-11-28
I have seen a low flying black cube UFO. This event occurred in 2011 and has haunted me everyday since. I work in networking and all of ours are late. I usually get off around 2am and then I am up for a few hours before I go to bed. This evening I got off work and it was raining really bad on my way home. When I got home, by chance, the clouds broke and I stepped outside to have a quick smoke. One of my buddies called me and we were chatting about work. It was still not raining and there were low lying clouds. There are orange street lights in Allen and they were reflecting off the bottom of the clouds creating an artificial light. There was a pretty good breeze whipping around, but no rain. I was facing the west and I look to my right and I see a black cube moving out of the north and traveling south at about 60-80mph. It was moving with a corner forward. This thing was huge. I was astonished to the core of my soul. I sat speechless for a few seconds knowing that I was seeing something amazing. It was 80-100ft tall. It was a black cube in shape and looked like a rough stone surface. On the side of the cube was a border and within the border was a circular symbol, if that's what it even was. It looked like if you were to draw a circular maze. It was disturbing the air behind it and created a vaporous trail spinning behind it and then disappearing. There was absolutely no sound. None. If you know Dallas, it was traveling in the direction of southbound 75Central Expressway towards downtown. I told my buddy what I had seen and he lives a few miles south. I fumbled over my words telling him and asked him to go outside to see if he could see it. He went out to the middle of his street and looked in the direction that it was coming from. After about 5 minutes it started to rain again. He stood out in the rain for another 15 minutes but never saw it. Good friend..lol.. Anyways, no one can ever tell me that I didn't see what I saw that night. I have been ridiculed and laughed at, but I know what I saw. It is almost a relief at this point to know that they are really here. I have been a long time lurker and I had to get this off of my chest. I have been searching "black cube ufo" for years now, every single day. I cannot stop thinking about it. I have to see it again. Thanks for listening. edit:Allen, TX (near Dallas) It looked like the entire cube was carved from a single stone. It had a border along its edges and a circular pattern in the middle. Think of a view of a circular maze from above. Also of interesting note, no lights from the craft either. I was expecting a light show, but I will settle with what I got to witness any day. https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/2pgjxw/i_have_seen_a_low_flying_black_cube_ufo/ https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/5q6uwf/my_low_flying_black_cube_ufo_encounter_in/ I think they are the Archons... P.S. The "Texas Black Cube" pics you see all over the internet are a proven hoax. It always bugs me that it gained so much traction.
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1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
I read this before, you posted it here no? Are you positive it was extra terrestrial me boy?
1 IHAVESEEN 2017-11-28
I try to post it as often as possible. Check out r/BLACKCUBEUFO. I honestly do not think it was human tech, but I could be wrong.
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
Hmm~ ill be sure to keep an eye and report any whispers i hear of such things.
In your opinion, what do you think it was doing? Just recon.?
1 IHAVESEEN 2017-11-28
When it passed by I cleared my mind of everything to take in as much as possible. The only thought I had as it was leaving my field of view was "it's sucking up data." I think that is so weird. Why did I think that?
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
It's not impossible, to have technology to allow space flight they could absolutely do a drive by amd download EVERY piece of the internet to analyse in an instant probably. Proximity is odd, considering they could have tapped satellites but who can say
1 IHAVESEEN 2017-11-28
Yeah...super wierd stuff.
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
Subbed to you so do keep on Posting any whispers and I will to. If you had to fathom a guess what do you think their intent would be? Its always been debated when it comes to such things Also have there been any strange occurrences since then? Anything at all out of the ordinary
1 IHAVESEEN 2017-11-28
No strange occurences since then...I wish though. I have been researching so much since then. Zecharia Sitchin has some interesting theories. He decoded ancient texts and one of them described how the Annunakis traveled in black cubes....WHOAH!
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
Hmm very very interesting. Ive been trying to archive as much info as i can, just for reference sake you know? Too many people see a theory and move on, i wanna see how far the rabbit whole goes, and hit the bottom. Hit the answers you know?
1 IHAVESEEN 2017-11-28
Indeed.
1 lawofconfusion 2017-11-28
They are hidden because they've been visiting for millenia, and only the top level secret society members and ruling class are aware of this fact. If people were to know that we've been visited for a long time, they would wonder how they got here. Therein lies technology that the hierarchy believes need be kept from the masses for control reasons. You can't control a population that is flying out to other regions of our solar system, or even other star systems. Additionally, the energy generation and harvesting systems to perform such travel if implemented on the surface would remove our dependence on the corporate energy network which is also controlled by the ruling class. In terms of government officials, its likely that the ones in the know are agents of said ruling class or genuinely believe that the masses "cant handle the truth".
Or its all an elaborate psyop ;)
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
Define psyop for me mate~ Also what tech that we got over the years do you think came from the oul alans in the stars
1 lawofconfusion 2017-11-28
Psyop is short for psychological operation. It is a broad term used to describe when agents of some power are used to manipulate the public opinion or shape the narrative of a particular subject. Usually its done by spreading propaganda and disinformation. In this case it would have been around the time the nazis and later the allied powers acquired "electro-gravitic", creating the UFO sighting phenomenon. Agents would have been used to spread false information about aliens visiting in order to distract from the fact that these craft are created by government and corporate entities in possession of technology that far exceeds the capabilities of standard jet propulsion.
According to steven greer and others, much of the technology explosion of the 20th century was due to reverse engineering crashed alien craft such as the Roswell incident. The instrument panels on these craft and other aspects would have paved the way to transistors (leading to computers), semiconductors, carbon nanofibers, and various other technologies. The tech still hidden could include antigravity propulsion technologies, time travel, age reversing tech, and other exotic technology.
I've also read that ancient societies received tech from various sources throughout their development. For instance, Atlantis received crystal healing and crystal weaponry from the Venusians. This tech was lost to the public after the destruction of their continent, but the knowledge was presumably carried on through mystery schools, priest classes, and monasteries.
1 UFOnauts 2017-11-28
I believe they are real and exist. You can read more here: http://real-ufos.com
1 lajo90 2017-11-28
I want to belive too BUT, i find it hard to belive that it's been hidden from us so long.
Usa couldent keep Bill Clintons love affair a secret.
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
Heyyo Very true
1 jewsrule2 2017-11-28
They're not. ET's are bs. Alien propaganda is nothing but mason mindgames to condition the goyim for project bluebeam.
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
What is project bluebeam?
1 tendies4bernie 2017-11-28
All about free energy and Independence.
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
Whose behind such a thing?
1 tendies4bernie 2017-11-28
1 Irishconspiracy 2017-11-28
I don't to be honest. Were too small, and aliens wouldn't contact just our govs. To allow it to stay secret. Plus we'd just know if there were. Im just colecting evidence2
1 tendies4bernie 2017-11-28
Ok little guy.
1 ab_ovo_usque_ad_mala 2017-11-28
Again, a planet in the habitable zone has no guarantee of actually being habitable. There's far to many variables involved. Yes, life COULD exist there...I never said there wasn't life out there. I personally doubt it, but statistically there should be.
The chances are, that life hasn't visited Earth, it's almost certain.