Why does america freak out over Iran and North Korea ICBM when both countries have satellites successful in geosynchronous orbit? According to China, NK launches a satellite every 9 days. Where's the news?
12 2017-12-02 by showmeurboobsplznthx
12 2017-12-02 by showmeurboobsplznthx
41 comments
1 SR91Aurora 2017-12-02
I looked for a source for your claim the China says NK launches satellites every 9 days and I couldn't find anything.
Where did you hear this?
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-12-02
Where did you hear this at OP
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
I live where a ton of chinese tourist come and have talked to them about it. A north korean scientist went to the ISS with China in 2009 after Bush removed them from the terror list...
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-12-02
Might be propaganda from them man. If they were releasing satellites that often I would know about it
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
The way I saw it was they woukd launch 50 satellites at a time equaling an average if 1 every 9 days. This why we have devwloped vehicles to catch and crash them.
1 Squirrelboy85 2017-12-02
Well you are not wrong about sending 50 up at a time. Now I see what you're saying. That what we do
1 coconutnuts 2017-12-02
Seems weird. NK only recently obtained the technology to put objects into space and even then they aren't great at keeping said object in orbit.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
A Chinese space command officer had a conversation with me about this and told me that NK scientist go to good schools and are capable. Private organizations pay them to do things cheap without regulations of the west. You know Kim jung UN went to a European college right?
1 GregsKnees 2017-12-02
Wait, which one? Chinese? Japanese? Korean? Sounds like bullshit.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
Did you not read the very first sentence?
1 GregsKnees 2017-12-02
No, I mean where in the world is there a joint Chinese-Japanese-Korean tourist destination?
I think you know that though and are just being slippery on purpose.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
I guess you don't go through user profiles.
1 AssistedSuicideSquad 2017-12-02
Probably Guam or Hawaii
1 coconutnuts 2017-12-02
I know Kim Jong Un went to school in Switzerland.
Doesn't really have anything to do with the discussion though. They've made progress but they are still limited technology wise. You can't forget they had to get their nuclear technology via Pakistan.
Making nuclear bombs and ICBMs is a lot harder when you have virtually no foreign allies except China, and even China isn't keen a nuclear ICBM North Korea.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
Uranium one, led by the democrat majority and president, sold nuclear fuel to Russia Ukraine. One of these Ukraine/ Russian owned mines was caught selling fuel to North Korea. Also, part of the arm ukraine against Russia weapons went to NK. North Korea then sold that to the muslim brotherhood. Israel and UN intercepted this. We then see Israel attack the DNC and favor trump as the Iran nuke deal was the initial anger.
1 coconutnuts 2017-12-02
Yeah no that's just BS.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
Or are you one of those NYT WaPo fake news people?
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/world/asia/north-korea-missiles-ukraine-factory.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-north-korean-ship-was-seized-off-egypt-with-a-huge-cache-of-weapons-destined-for-a-surprising-buyer/2017/10/01/d9a4e06e-a46d-11e7-b14f-f41773cd5a14_story.html?utm_term=.bb7ce36b5b29
1 coconutnuts 2017-12-02
No. I just know that Uranium one is bullshit.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
No its not. Its a legit business deal. While the uranium likely never left America, the deal gave power to these people to act out internationally as they thought it leverage against the administration that approved and would likely retain power. How do you challenge these articles showing proof I'm telling you?
1 coconutnuts 2017-12-02
First of all, your first article is about rocket engine components, not fuel. Furthermore it states that these were illicitly obtained cause you know Ukraine is in the middle of a fucking war at the moment...
Secondly, your second article is about the Egyptian military, not the muslim brotherhood. And it's about short range weapons. Need I remind you that Egypt, relative to other arab and middle eastern countries, has decent relations with Israel and doesn't shoot missles at Israel?
Thirdly, none of those articles have anything to do with uranium one.
Fourthly, Israel did not hack the DNC nor have anything to do with getting Trump elected.
Did you even read your own articles? Or did you just link some articles in the hope that I wouldn't read them and just blindly believe you? None of what you linked supports youe argument. It's tangentially related, at best.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
You're just misinterpreting the links to make it seem I am. I guess you missed the part about the mine sending the fuel for the components? Was a subsidiary of the rusatom corp that had the uranium one deal... Come on man.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
You're just misinterpreting the links to make it seem I am. I guess you missed the part about the mine sending the fuel for the components? Was a subsidiary of the rusatom corp that had the uranium one deal... Come on man.
1 coconutnuts 2017-12-02
There is no mention of even the word mine in the WaPo article. I've read it three times now so either I'm blind, you linked the wrong article or you've wrongly interpreted your article. Could you link the relevant paragraph?
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-idAFL5N0RC3VA20140911
Now look at the connection.
1 coconutnuts 2017-12-02
Ok so there was nothing about a mine in the WaPo article and now you give me a new article.
This article states that Ukraine wants to buy fuel from a company in the Toshiba group instead of Russia because they are at war with Russia. Pretty logical.
Ok. Firstly: this is nuclear fuel for reactors, not enriched uranium to use in atomic weapons.
Secondly, there is no link to North Korea? Are you trying to make a link with Uranium one? I thought we were discussing North Korea?
Look man, no offence, but you're asking me to take leaps of faith and connect dots that, in my view, aren't there.
We can go several rounds on this but my view is that:
A. North Korea isn't technologically capable of your original question (i.e. the subject of the thread)
B. Uranium one is not a conspiracy.
C. North Korea didn't sell weapons to the muslim brotherhood. They did sell to the Egyptian state but it were RPGs and they were caught red handed.
D. Israel has nothing to do with the DNC nor electing Trump.
I think that about covers all the points we discussed? Anyway dude it's almost 5 am and I'm tired. It was fun discussing this with you but we both know we aren't gonna change each others minds so I'm gonna go catch some sleep.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
You are doing the misinterpretation thing... Look at the companies. Its Gazprom rosatom and 3 other Russia state owned conoanies that tie uranium 1 haliburton the podesta group, who was Jeb Bush's campaign manager, and Paul Manafort.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-idAFL5N0RC3VA20140911
Now look at the connection.
1 imnotabotoraboat 2017-12-02
Oh okay well if he told you so! No need to question it!
/S
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
It makes since...
1 EyeOfTheBeast 2017-12-02
The only time they bring out the scary Iran and NK stories are during budget talks, remember the last three years the Republican majority Congress waits until Christmas to offer their budgets. Those budgets that are due 10/1/XXXX for the beginning each fiscal year.
And if we can't defend ourselves against Iran and NK with a defense budget of now, $650 billion, set to increase to $700 billion. Maybe we ought to fire our Congress and DOD and the Military and Intelligence cabinet officials?
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
Only war wages match inflation lol.
1 EyeOfTheBeast 2017-12-02
The U.S. worker no longer gets, "war wages," that work is now done with offshore labor and prison labor.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
The only wages matxhing inflation are the MIC.
1 EyeOfTheBeast 2017-12-02
Show me your source. The Intelligence contractors use cheap immigrant H1B visa labor, some of the manufacturers use prison labor and for overseas operations, like during the Iraq war they use ultra cheap labor from places like Bangladesh and Indonesia to do the cooking, laundry and cleaning. And the for profit military companies, even as they are paid in U.S. tax dollars, can hire foreign soldiers to serve in places like Africa and Afghanistan, etc.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
Google military budget vs inflation....
1 EyeOfTheBeast 2017-12-02
No, first I don't use google, 2nd, it is your claim, support it or call it your opinion backed guess.
1 sraphler 2017-12-02
Because in the case of Iran, they have to scaremonger and create another "WMDs in Iraq" pretext to impose regime-change there.
They also accuse Iran of "seeking the capability to make nukes" -- something the IAEA said 40 countries could do quickly if they wanted to, 10 years ago. That's 1 out of 4 nations on Earth btw.
http://old.seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2002041473_nukes21.html
1 Bountyzero 2017-12-02
I remember hearing a few reports of them getting their first satellite a few months back, but I haven't heard of them launching more. I guess I have to look into land based ICBM and their warhead configurations. The only thing I really know is about Triton II D-5 warheads and they base their targeting and position based off of stellar navigation.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
You can't use an icbm accurately without a satellite... After George Bush dropped nk sanctions, they did a lot of work with China's space program. A NK has been to the source station with China.
1 Bountyzero 2017-12-02
So that's how land based ICBMs work from huh? Never really looked into it, I always just figured it was like how we chuck them out of subs. Thanks.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
From what Raytheon says about it, you need at least 3 satellites and 3 relay stations to be accurate to negate weather differences across great differences. You cant just point and shoot bc the earths surface isn't a literal sphere.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-12-02
I guess you don't go through user profiles.