What if Religion was to be ousted globally, with it's power and influence, does the illusion still work?

Sidenote: That's what I'm waiting for, personally.

I too also think religion should be eliminated globally. It’s evil and has done nothing to benefit the human race

Spirituality and religion have been a part of the human experience since our Consciousness rose about in our ancestors some 50,000 years ago. We have 30k year old Venus statuettes, and ritual burial with jewelry going back 50k years. Religion and its practices only became corrupted with the advent of farming and civilization. First, the priests realized they could mobilize the people to do public works in the name of the gods...this is likely how the first widespread irrigation projects in Farming communities in Southern Turkey and Northern Iraq started some 9k+ years ago...it was only later, with the advent of metallurgy and weaponry, that a warrior class emerged. This warrior class subsumed the priests in control, and utilized/manipulated religion to their ends, becoming the first divine "Warrior Kings".

All that to say that Religion wasn't "created" to enslave...it was always a part of who we were as humans, it was only relatively recently that it was manipulated, first by likely sincere and well meaning priests, and then by the warrior class.

time to wake up

Do explain what I must wake up from, considering your statement is in response to an anthropological view of the origin of humanity and religion.

Be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater here.

nothing good about brainwashing people. sorry that you fell for the cult

And atheism (if that's what you believe) is any different? How do you know that's not a cult of [purported] disbelief?

It’s evil and has done nothing to benefit the human race.

As an atheist, that is so incredibly naive it honestly puts anything else you say in a dubious light.

Appreciate your honesty in calling out the childlike militant atheism.

as an atheist he is right and we need to stop being afraid to say it

Nobody's afraid to say it, it's just that most people aren't as stupid as you have to be to believe it.

Throughout history, the Church has been a major source of social services such as schooling. There are a bunch of Jesuit/Mormon/Christian universities.

The 10 commandments have had just as much influence in our modern legal system as English Common Law. The Bible and Christian theology have also strongly influenced Western philosophers and political activists. The teachings of Jesus, such as the Parable of the Good Samaritan, are among the important sources for modern notions of Human rights and the welfare measures commonly provided by governments in the West. Long held Christian teachings on sexuality and marriage have also been influential in family life. In general it affected the status of women by condemning infanticide (female infants were more likely to be killed), divorce, incest, polygamy, birth control, abortion and adultery.

Days like Easter and Christmas are marked universally as public holidays; what are they marked on? Pope Gregory XIII's Gregorian Calendar has been adopted internationally. Year numbering in the West is taken from the assumed date of the birth of the Church's founder.

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Religion in general will be eliminated globally, then a one-world (or should I say official) religion will be set up - same as the elite are already practicing in secret now.

In keeping with their theme of Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis, they are trying to breed religious fanatics and atheists so they can blend them together to accept their Luciferian/Satanist worship when the time comes.

It’s evil and has done nothing to benefit the human race. It also brainwashes people with very irrational things.

That's a tall claim you aren't backing up. Actually a bit of an irrational one, at that.

Do you think the elite are actually religious? Like which religion do they practice? Is it paganism or Gnosticism? Or maybe it's some secret society freemason religion?

It makes me wonder because we know they're suppressing secret knowledge. Maybe the know all the secrets of the universe but aren't sharing with us.They've got their Vatican library under lock and key, I'm sure there's some goodies in there.

The three you mentioned all lead to the same thing. Actually, just about all religions do, and they share the same symbols at that.

Beware the hexagram

Welp, in to the rabbit hole of mother rabbit holes I go!

and you don't care about the consequences at all?

What kind of question is that, of course I do, but I have no control over what is coming. When you rule over people with lies and deceit, and pawning it off as truth, all for the benefit of a small group of people and not the majority of mankind, you have problems.

This isn't just about "ruling" over somebody.

There are 2-3 components which you seem to completely ignore.

A moral/ethical foundation is essential to form a civilisation. What will it be replaced with?

Helping people getting through existential crisis in their lives. Not everybody's mind is "strong" enough to deal with the bleak reality and religion gives them a framework, illusionary or not, to get through it.

The social/economical influence at least of organised religion in the west is essential in several countries. Where I live a lot social services are run by the catholic and evangelical churches/corporations with a lot people contributing for free.

P.S. I'm a cultural catholic and consider myself as agnostic for about 30 years.

The social/economical influence at least of organised religion in the west is essential in several countries. Where I live a lot social services are run by the catholic and evangelical churches/corporations with a lot people contributing for free.

Turning a buck on the greatest lie of all hell, do you believe in that fairy tell? O' by the way, I most certainly believe in the Creator-God, as well as god's, not to mention the Bible. But twisting lies as truth for the Black Nobles on the unsuspecting, on the grounds helping humanity gives me the dry heaves, a penny back for every dollar has worked out well financially for them for a few thousand years, the final straw being Pope Leo sticking the Crown on Charlemagne's head, the first Charles in charge.

Exactly, you get it. If you're looking into the UK, look into the House of Percy, the House of Breakspeare, and the House of Rosenberg (a Khazar branch of the House of Orsini).

The largest bank in the world is the Bank of China, the Central Bank of China

It lends more money then any banking group on earth, it owns all the real estate in china, it also is the number one lender to both the eu and the united states

not one rothschild involved or european noble- also just to make you feel even worse, china backed investment groups own 60% of all the worlds crypto currencies and are working with russia to develop the first state backed crypto- the crypto ruble

but yeah jews, khazars ect- just ignore china buying all of the worlds higher eduction and all the worlds real estate- nothing to see here

Competing factions my friend. What you are describing is the Eastern power base...Rothschild's and Roman/European nobility are the Western power base. There is definitely a real difference, and a true competition for control of the world. This is why the West refused to give China a bigger say in the World Bank and IMF, and why in response China founded AIIB and is working on the One Belt One Road program.

One belt is already running, and if the west really cared they would have put pressure on america to stick with the TPP after trump won, but didint, so china has even more regional control

-but!- we are now talking about actual monetary policy of actual places, instead of magical jew wizards- see how quickly the narrative has to change back to reality when you remember fucking china exists?

I was never talking about "magic jew wizards". My point was that an incredibly old, and powerful nobility exists in the West, which was really what PLC seemed to be getting at. Most of what people consider TPTB in the West ends with them. I fully recognize that they do not posses power in China, and that the Eastern and Western power bases are in competition with one another.

Are we talking about level 10 jew wizards, or level 50 jew wizards, because there is a huge difference.

Have you not heard of the Bank for International Settlements? You should look into them...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_for_International_Settlements#Members

its a regulatory agency made in the 1930's

it does not lend money or make currency- how is this relevant?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8Pcbfrv2xI

When someone says "You should look into them it doesn't mean "you should accept whatever explanation they give the public to cover up their ulterior motives."

Who owns the Federal Reserve?

Who owns the Bank of England?

How much money do these institutions handle?

Who audits their transactions?

How common is financial fraud?

Have you heard of Bernie Madoff, Enron, or Worldcom?

If there were financial fraud with these institutions, who would enforce the laws against them?

How much of a revolving door is there between banks and regulators?

Hopefully you get the picture.

Regulatory capture

Corporate capture

Inverted democracy

mini Q

The BIS is the bank for central banks.

Exactly. It is basically the head of the octopus.

Currency Wars (simplified Chinese: 货币战争; traditional Chinese: 貨幣戰爭; pinyin: Huòbì zhànzhēng) by Song Hongbing,[5] also known as The Currency War,[6] is a bestseller in China, reportedly selling over 200,000 copies in addition to an estimated 400,000 unlicensed copies in circulation[7][8] and is reportedly being read by many senior level government and business leaders in China.[9] Originally published in 2007 the book gained a resurgence in 2009 and is seen as a prominent exponent of a recently emerged genre labeled "economic nationalist" literature.[9] Another bestselling book within this genre is Unhappy China; however, unlike this and other books within this genre, Currency Wars has been received more positively by the Chinese leadership as its recommendations are seen as less aggressive towards the US.[9] The premise of this book is that Western countries are ultimately controlled by a group of private banks, which, according to the book, runs their central banks. This book uses the claim[citation needed] that the Federal Reserve is a private body to support its role. More than one million copies of this book have been sold.[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_Wars

there is also a super popular version of harry potter here where he fucks all the girls and his broom grants him wishes

also lots of chinese people think smoking cures cancer and licorice cures heart disease

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Have you never wondered how China managed to raise to its current economical status from the early 90s? Somebody financed them, delivered technology and removed any kind of taxation/import limitations.

That didn't happen by accident.

the unification with HK helped a lot, it brought in huge investment

also a lot of it has to do with the manufacturing agreements we allowed china to engage in- china has two closed circles on its economy- an exterior circle for lending and producing products that we in the west buy and an internal circle for the chinese economy and the products they allow bought

until president xi, those where totally separate, chinese people could not buy the products they where making and tariffs prevented imports- but they changed those policies leading to huge shifts in the last 5 years

but way back in the 90's it was mostly that the chinese agreed to basically anything if it got money flowing to the mainland- mainland GDP was less the HK at reunification- they just had no fucks to give

china is not that different then what is happening in india, they both have gone through huge development

Stop with your facts!

I can't! I have worked in China to long and people obsessed with a jewish central banking conspiracy really hate trying to work china into it because it just doesn't really work- but without it the whole doesn't make sense since they are the number one lender in the world

who financed mao zedong

lol. too try hard.

Are they Lucifarians too?

This is my word reorganized. This is called plagiarism and the proof is on my website and on Reddit in the link below. The Killuminati Soldiers of Truth like to steal my word and they rewrite it the same exact way this person just did. Its their way of undermining all the information I put out by blurring it with other people that mix truth with lies. There is no reason why this person did not give me credit for this other than theft. Also the Killuminati Soldiers of Truth stole my posts on Facebook and then flagged my account until it got shut down in order to remove me from exposing their theft. They are ruthless thieves and based on their style of editing its the same exact person from Killuminati Soldiers of Truth. Who runs that operation? Lesane Parish Crooks who faked his death also known as Tupac Shakur. Crooks because he is a crook. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6hsjgn/rothschild_crime_family/

This is crazy man this post is a copy of yours almost word for word. I️do about Tupac masterminding the plot to undermine your research tho, that part probably makes a lot of people lose interest.

But the main point, you definitely have been plagiarized big time

Tupac runs the Killuminati Soldiers and has been hiding out in Cuba.

So Tupac went from writing timeless rhymes to plagiarizing conspiracy theorists on reddit?

Look Tupac very well could still be alive, and somebody definitely ripped off your work, but idk if i buy that Tupac himself is behind it.

He runs Killuminati Soldiers of Truth. Crooks is a crook and thief and his timeless rhymes were also stolen.

And this was all plotted out as a distraction because I posted this information below on the Mike Tyson post. I don't like to focus too much attention on the Rothschilds because they are overall a diversion.

Amadeo Giannini founded the Bank of Italy in California which was later renamed the Bank of America. The Bank of America is still under the original charter of the Bank of Italy today. The BOA is the second largest bank in the United States with assets estimated at 2.2 trillion. Amadeo Giannini was the son of Italian-Genoese immigrants. Genoa was a powerful banking center in Europe for centuries. Wealthy banking families from Genoa include the Doria, Spinola, and Pallavicini families. The Bank of Italy now BOA made loans to the wine industry in California as well as to Walt Disney. Roy E Disney was a Vatican Knight of St Gregory. Amadeo Giannini also made loans to FIAT in Italy after WWII. John Elkann is Chairman for FIAT and married to Donna Lavinia Borromeo. Pierre Casiraghi is married to Beatrice Borromeo and his mother is Princess Caroline of Hanover and she is the daughter of Prince Rainier III of Monaco from the Genoese House of Grimaldi. The central bank of Italy is called the Bank of Italy. The Borromeo family were noble landowners, merchants, and bankers that did business in Venice and Florence. The first Director of the Italian Bank of Italy was Bonaldo Stringher who was from Venice. Luigi Einaudi was the third Director of the Bank of Italy and from Piedmont. The Borromeo family ruled right near Piedmont and still own islands there in Lake Maggiore. The Sella family are bankers and merchants from Piedmonte which currently own Banca Sella Group which operates in Switzerland where banking is private. The Sella family are Court Factors for the House of Borromeo. Amadeo Giannini was really working for the Genoese and Venetian bankers as a proxy to establish one of the largest banking institutions in the United States. Some Genoese-Venetian princes include Prince Moroello Pallavicini, Prince Sigeri Pallavicini, Prince Jonathan Doria-Pamphilj, Prince Vitaliano XI of Borromeo, Baron Girolama de Massa of Giustiniani and Prince Carlo Odescalchi.

Goldman Sachs is being overseen by the Doria-Pamphilj and Sacchetti families of Italy. The Doria name derives from de Auria and Aureo or D'oro which are Italian words for gold. The Doria family started out as a banking family from Genoa. The Sacchetti and Sachs name both mean bags or sacks. Italian Nobility usually have the highest authority in society through Rome's network of power. There are numerous Jesuit educated top executives working for Goldman Sachs as well as Vatican knights. Peter Oppenheimer is on the board of directors for Goldman Sachs and was Jesuit educated from Santa Clara University. Lakshmi Mittal is another member of Goldman Sachs board of directors and he was Jesuit educated from St. Xavier's College of Kolkata, India. Edward Gerald Corrigan was a former President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, was Jesuit educated from Fordham University, and is currently managing director in the Office of the Chairman at Goldman Sachs and is Chairman for Goldman Sachs USA. The Roman born Mario Draghi who is President of the European Central bank, board member for the Bank for International Settlements, and member of the G30, was Jesuit educated from the Massimiliano Massimo Institute in Rome. Mario Draghi previously worked as vice chairman and managing director of Goldman Sachs International. Peter Sutherland is a Vatican Knight of the Order of St. Gregory, Jesuit educated from Gonzaga College, Bilderberg member, former Director for the Royal Bank of Scotland, and Director of the GAAT and he worked as non-executive Chairman of Goldman Sachs International. Geoffrey Boisi is a Roman Knight of Malta, Jesuit educated from Boston College, member of the Trilateral Commission, Trustee for the Papal Foundation, and worked as a top executive for Goldman Sachs for decades as well as JP Morgan and Freddie Mac. Eileen Rominger was Jesuit educated from Fairfield University, Director of Investment Management at the United States Security and Exchange Commission, and she was the Global Chief Investment Officer of Goldman Sachs Asset Management. Debora Spar went to Georgetown's Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service and has been a member of Goldman Sach's board of directors. The head of the Sacchetti family today is Prince Urbano Sacchetti of Rome and the head of the Doria family is Prince Jonathan Doria Pamphilj.

Good work. I was unaware of the Rothschild connection to Aldobrandini. As PLC stated above, too many people believe this shit ends with Soros or the Rothschilds...these are simply the names we are allowed to know. The real power lies with the Roman and other European nobility.

I've looked into this and it looks like a red herring, or maybe even disinfo to protect the Rothschilds. I have not seen anything to indicate that there are more powerful families than the Rothschilds. If you have some good info that may be more convincing, please send it my way.

Likewise, too many people belive "the real power lies with the the Roman and other European nobility."

I just showed you in another thread that your claim about Italian nobility controlling the papacy is baseless and refuted by Paul VI' decree to remove the nobility from the papal court, but it looks like you are going to continue to pretend like that never happened.

The military, multidisciplinary Jesuits are the most influential group on earth, not some crusty old men in their vacation houses.

And in that thread I explained why I don't agree with what you "showed me". You and I have looked at the evidence and come to different conclusions my friend.

No you didnt, you had a wrong assumption about the functions of the papal nobility within the papal court. You cannot address prima facie evidence which refutes your claim nor can you explain why the last three popes have not even been Italian. I'm sorry that you are content to believe nonsense.

:)

I mean, if you want to admit you are wrong I would gain a lot of respect for you. Hardly anyone will admit when they are wrong on these subjects.

Wood for the Trees.

tens of billions? more like trillions

The Rothschild family were originally Holy Roman and North Italian banking and merchant clans

(((sure they were)))

yeah I mean they had their Italian branch but if you call em holy roman is he trying to say they weren't jewish, too much people wrongly think "rome rules" but really they're trying to divert attention from jews cuz it's inconvenient

What is an inconvenience for you people is that Carl Rothschild kissed the hand of the pope and the Jesuits created the modern antisemitic movement. You are literally parroting a Jesuit psyop.

but if you call em holy roman is he trying to say they weren't jewish,

No, he's saying they lived within the borders of the Holy Roman Empire.

Well, where do you think they lived?

While this is intriguing it only amounts to a list of assertions, some fairly easily verifiable, but others not.

Evelyn de Rothschild - Deputy Chairman - Milton Keynes Development Corporation (1971–1984)

Milton Keynes an Illuminati stronghold

Milton Keynes Illuminati conspiracy

How are you upvoted for posting the sun of all places as your fucking source...

And the Star!

Couldn't find the article in the Daily Mail.

On 14 March 2013, Goldsmith married banking heiress Alice Rothschild at London Wetland Centre in his constituency.[154] They have a daughter, Dolly Goldsmith, born in July 2013.[155] Their second child, a son named Max, was born in January 2017.[156] Alice's sister, Kate Rothschild and his brother Ben Goldsmith had been married until 2012.[157][158]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zac_Goldsmith

as for princess cate middleton, is it true she is related to the goldsmiths and hence rothschilds, tangentially?

Michael Middleton's wife, Carole, was born Carole Elizabeth Goldsmith on 31 January 1955 at Perivale Maternity Hospital in Ealing.[44][45] The daughter of a builder, Ronald Goldsmith (1931–2003), and Dorothy Harrison (1935–2006), she was raised in Southall,[46] and attended local state schools.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Catherine,_Duchess_of_Cambridge

This is my word reorganized.

I am going to keep saying it until you give me credit for this since I am the one that wrote it. This is my word and he stole it.

The Rothschilds also own the Wall Street investment firm that owns all US politicians: Goldman Sachs

It would be nice if everyone here could at least provide some sources to back up the claims they're making.

"These families are all conspiring together to dominate over society and enslave humanity." can you provide some sort of source on that. Sounds like a load of conspiracy gibberish.

You are Killuminati Soldiers of Truth and you stole my word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8Pcbfrv2xI

When someone says "You should look into them it doesn't mean "you should accept whatever explanation they give the public to cover up their ulterior motives."

Who owns the Federal Reserve?

Who owns the Bank of England?

How much money do these institutions handle?

Who audits their transactions?

How common is financial fraud?

Have you heard of Bernie Madoff, Enron, or Worldcom?

If there were financial fraud with these institutions, who would enforce the laws against them?

How much of a revolving door is there between banks and regulators?

Hopefully you get the picture.

The BIS is the bank for central banks.

Currency Wars (simplified Chinese: 货币战争; traditional Chinese: 貨幣戰爭; pinyin: Huòbì zhànzhēng) by Song Hongbing,[5] also known as The Currency War,[6] is a bestseller in China, reportedly selling over 200,000 copies in addition to an estimated 400,000 unlicensed copies in circulation[7][8] and is reportedly being read by many senior level government and business leaders in China.[9] Originally published in 2007 the book gained a resurgence in 2009 and is seen as a prominent exponent of a recently emerged genre labeled "economic nationalist" literature.[9] Another bestselling book within this genre is Unhappy China; however, unlike this and other books within this genre, Currency Wars has been received more positively by the Chinese leadership as its recommendations are seen as less aggressive towards the US.[9] The premise of this book is that Western countries are ultimately controlled by a group of private banks, which, according to the book, runs their central banks. This book uses the claim[citation needed] that the Federal Reserve is a private body to support its role. More than one million copies of this book have been sold.[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_Wars

Nobody's afraid to say it, it's just that most people aren't as stupid as you have to be to believe it.

Throughout history, the Church has been a major source of social services such as schooling. There are a bunch of Jesuit/Mormon/Christian universities.

The 10 commandments have had just as much influence in our modern legal system as English Common Law. The Bible and Christian theology have also strongly influenced Western philosophers and political activists. The teachings of Jesus, such as the Parable of the Good Samaritan, are among the important sources for modern notions of Human rights and the welfare measures commonly provided by governments in the West. Long held Christian teachings on sexuality and marriage have also been influential in family life. In general it affected the status of women by condemning infanticide (female infants were more likely to be killed), divorce, incest, polygamy, birth control, abortion and adultery.

Days like Easter and Christmas are marked universally as public holidays; what are they marked on? Pope Gregory XIII's Gregorian Calendar has been adopted internationally. Year numbering in the West is taken from the assumed date of the birth of the Church's founder.

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