I think it's a meme to illustrate the extent of the cover up and manipulation by the parasitic psycho illusionists. Embrace the meme !

The point of flat earth is to survey the percentage of humans who will believe the impossible through cultural influence. This data is later used and applied by mainstream outlets to prey on ignorance and promote propaganda.

Same people pushing flat earth were the ones pushing No Planes for 9/11, as far as I am concerned that is proof of what you say.

It’s a test to see how many people have 0 critical thinking skills. Sadly there are many.

Sadly there are many.

There are also many people who blindly follow the cult of modern Science™, who too, have 0 critical thinking skills. Come to think of it, there are probably more of them.

Oh really? Do you know that the very foundations of modern science was created in ancient mystery schools and the occult? Going all the way back to Pythagoras. Newton was heavy in the occult and alchemy. Those are but two examples, and there are plenty more. The majority of people take science as a belief purely on faith alone. Not science, experimentation, and personal observing. Merely what a priest class has written in a book.

You sir or madam, are the deluded one. Your ignorance of history is quite telling. You are a parishioner in the church of Science, and you don't even know it. To me, that is even worse than being a FE'r.

Cool. What say you about giants, and the Sphinx being 20k+ years old based on geological evidence?

Great! How do you feel about Darwinism, and "evolution"?

No no we know that science is good and shit but that’s not what we get. That’s not what we are told about. You are taught in school about the scientific method and how you can PROVE things using science. So now your all programmed up to believe when researches discover and scientists conclude and blah blah fucking blah. Truth is soooo much scientific law and research is just the bullshit we think we know right now. The science community is as closed off from releasing real truths as the governments are for giving real freedoms. It is all bought and paid for pseudoscience. Haberdashery to sway consumers into buying into whatever we are being told will add a few years to our shitty over worked under paid lives. Try this totally revolutionary totally tested and approved new miracle drug, vaccine, zit cream, boner pill, aids medication only $99.95

If there is new information that changes or refutes it, it is changed, or discarded as needed.

This is what I just said in different words. Don’t talk down to me I’m not an idiot I know what theory and hypothesis mean. That’s not what I was talking about and based on your answer you seemed to know exactly what I meant

Globers and their "evidence"

If you think dinosaurs are real then you probably think the world is a ball. This is because you have done near zero research and are meeting the barrier of cognitive dissonance that you find any time you try to expand beyond the limits of your societal programming and group think conditioning.

This guy nailed almost all the edgy red pill conspiracy theory million dollar buzzwords.

Lizard program defamation reprogramming anti Semitic research towards globalization dissonance controlling population by force and undermining the pyramids for shadow government agenda 21

For a forum dedicated to paradigm challenging ideas I see so many more FE debunking comments/posts just like this one using the standard shill debate tactics than I do actual FE links. I'm starting to think Fearthers must be onto something, I'm gonna have to check out FE info more earnestly now.

Indeed. I've been down voted for pointing this out.

There is a huge push to slander flat earth proponents and shit on the theory in general.

Is it? Or are you preposterous? I am starting to have doubts about your intentions.

Flat earth and questioning vaccines seems to be the quickest way to get attacked on the internet.

Justifiably too.

Because the "theory" deserves to be shit on. It's idiotic, and anyone who believes it is incapable of thinking critically.

It's perfectly reasonable to conclude that the earth is not a sphere. The flat earth model is logical and reasonable and there explanations for most observed natural events. Don't be so rigid to think that the globe earth model is infallible. It too is an incomplete model. The tides have never been adequately explained, for example.

What isn't reasonable is the beligerence that is displayed by people who believe in a globe earth, and who lash out in fits of rage merely because their world views have been challenged.

The tides have never been adequately explained, for example.

Lmao. You learn how the tides work in elementary school. While the moon explanation is basically accurate, there is more to it however. Just watch this video.

Please provide me with any evidence that the earth is flat. Oh wait, you can't, because there isn't any.

It's perfectly reasonable to conclude that the earth is not a sphere.

No it isn't. Please provide any evidence whatsoever.

The flat earth model is logical and reasonable and there explanations for most observed natural events.

No it isn't. It requires gravity to not exist (which it does) and for other planets and stars to be magically floating in the air and moving in strange patterns all over the place with no explanation whatsoever. It requires the sun to magically only shine on certain parts of the earth in the perfect shape for if it was a sphere.

How about this? Those are tickets to fly from South Africa to Sydney on a direct flight. On the flat earth model that distance is tens of thousands of miles and would send you right over Asia.. Not only is that well beyond what any commercial aircraft can achieve, it would also be impossible with the time of that flight. Also, that flight never flies anywhere near Asia.

Could you also explain to me what the deal with satellites is? You know you can see them from earth, right? Not only that, but if you drop a few bucks on a receiver, you can even steal images from them when they are sent back down to earth. You can even track these satellites as they fly about. Could you explain to me how this picture exists? That's a shot of the ISS from the surface of earth. You can see the thing go by during the night too.

I'm sorry, but the flat earth "theory" is idiotic and does not deserve any respect. I sincerely feel bad for anyone who has been duped into believing it.

Lmao. You learn how the tides work in elementary school.

A "teacher" regurgitates the dogma they were trained to recite to impressionable minds.

I watched that video you linked. the arrogant presenter starts by saying "there are a bunch of assumptions and simplifications we have to make before we begin..." uh oh, not off to a good start. and still, even with the "simplifications" a tangled mess of a theory it is! to be fair, it is challenging to build a scientific model based on "gravity" without resorting to mental gymnastics. he gave it his best though.

How about this? Those are tickets to fly from South Africa to Sydney on a direct flight. On the flat earth model that distance is tens of thousands of miles and would send you right over Asia..

you don't need to fly over asia.

Could you also explain to me what the deal with satellites is? You know you can see them from earth, right?

flying aircraft pass overhead all the time. so what? the picture of a "space station" only proves that there are aircraft in the sky. how does that prove the earth is a sphere?

Ok. You don't counter the argument about tides at all, you just dismiss it. Typical. Same thing with gravity. Incredible how thousands of genius minds can come up with how gravity works, prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, then you think that you in your infinite genius can just dismiss it with the wave of a hand.

you don't need to fly over asia

Then how would you do it? Take a massive curving path out towards the "edge"? That would add even more miles. Sorry buddy, it's completely impossible.

Actually, that picture proves that there is a giant flying spacecraft 250 miles straight up. I am confused as to how you would make a an aircraft that looks like that, yet is somehow aerodynamically stable and able to fly for literally years on end at incredible speeds without making so much as a sound. You know you can track these things right? You can even listen to radio chatter between the spacecraft and the ground.

So you ignored a lot of my comment, and only went after the stuff that you thought you could debunk, which you failed utterly to do.

Sorry man, the earth isn't flat. If you want to give me any evidence whatsoever that it is, feel free.

If an ancient Greek mathematician could come up with the fact that the earth was round and give almost an exact figure for its circumference over 2,000 years ago, I think you can come to the same conclusion with the near endless wealth of knowledge that we have today.

You are not helping anything. You are trying to deceive people, and are trying your very hardest to drag us backwards. We know so much about the world and have the incredible technology we have today because we fallowed the evidence and the facts. You are actively choosing to ignore them.

I love it when they don't reply. Keep fighting the good fight.

The only people opening up threads on the Flat Earth theory are the people that oppose it not the ones supposedly "conspiring" to push it. In fact they aren't pushing it at all and never have been.

They have simply been investigating it as scientifically and methodically as they can and bringing to light the reasons why they no longer believe that the world is a globe while steadily accumulating more and more facts that incline them to believe it's flat.

Facts which they invite anyone to consider and simply make up their own minds about after giving those facts a fair and honest appraisal. Something that none of their opponents are willing to do in an unbiased way nor enter into any real discussions about.

It's in no way being forced on anyone, nor is anyone being coerced or manipulated in any sort of a conspiratorial way to believe anything but whatever they choose to about the issue.

Yes well maybe you should stick around for a while before shovelling any guff about any so-called "stacks of threads" pushing the Flat Earth idea on this forum.

Of course some Flat-Earthers among us respond or try to respond to these threads aimed against them with counter-points of their own and many others also do simply as a matter of principle.

About once a week someone posts a thread here pitching the idea that that the Flat Earth Movement is some kind of psy-op to discredit and belittle what they call "the conspiracy community" which they have nothing but their own opinion and nothing else to offer to substantiate or back that up but the official line and information mainly from NASA that is both questionable and the focus of any number of other conspiracies around here, starting with the Moon landings, the Challenger incident, and all kinds of anomalous items from the ISS that don't pass muster and clearly appear to be faked upon close examination. A Flat Earth is one of many possible explanations for whatever NASA is really up to that makes what the Flat Earthers are up to worth keeping an eye on. They certainly believe that explains those oddities.

Just for the record, the opposite of belief isn't "disbelief", but *doubt" and most of us are here not out of any "disbelief" or need to debunk any official story lines but because there isn't enough reliable information in any those official narratives for us to possibly believe them in the first place no matter what authorative source is trying to convince us that's good enough, when it clearly isn't. So we look for more information and remain open to other and alternative explanations based on whatever turns up.

If you do, please research rationally. If you search "flat earth proof" all you are going to get is a bunch of BS from flat earthers that isn't based in reality at all, and is intentionally manipulative and ignorant of fact. Try to research as to why it's NOT true at least as much. Believe me, all of their arguments are laughably easy to debunk.

The reason that flat Earth theory exists is because NASA is full of lies and propaganda.

A group of people have rejected everything that NASA says including the shape of the Earth.

It's very hard to independently see the shape of the Earth because (apparently) the roundness is too subtle to detect by our line of sight, even at very high altitudes. Therefore, the only images of the Earth as a globe come from NASA and other governmental space agencies.

Whether you choose to believe the Earth is round or flat has nothing to do with critical thinking skills. If you could prove the shape easily by experiments on the ground, then there would be no debate. Many tests that supposedly prove the shape of the Earth are not actually adequate and could be explained by other phenomenon.

The vast majority choose to believe NASA and most other scientists throughout history. There is nothing wrong with that, but that does not mean that it is 100% fact. It's possible that most scientists are wrong, and NASA has been lying about everything. The few people who believe this are not lacking critical thinking skills, they are lacking trust in the judgement and honesty of the scientific institutions.

What are the lies and propaganda that NASA is full of?

Genuinely asking because I don’t know what they’ve lied about and what their propaganda is trying to do.

Lately they have really contradicted themselves with the moon missions by stating they are not able to send humans through the Van Allen Radiation Belt and they state that they no longer have the ability to travel past low earth orbit. You can find videos of officials who say we cannot explore past low earth orbit, just go check it out.

O.o

Ok, well that was only one part of my "claim" and from one of the NASA representatives. The Astronauts from the Apollo missions have shown no signs of excess radiation from their time through the radiation belts or while on the Moon.

Propaganda is used by governments to bolster public support, which then allows them to undertake or continue unpopular campaigns, often war. There's a wikipedia page on space propaganda if you'd like a brief overview.

If you do a little research you'll uncover enough NASA lies to question your own sanity. I'll start you off with one undeniable lie about the Apollo mission. You can web search or youtube search "NASA lies" or similar and find many examples of obvious deceit.

• Apollo faked shot of Earth from afar

That video is certainly interesting, but I'm not so sure about what it shows. It is also incredibly interesting how they decided to only make tiny parts of the audio audible. If you want pictures of when we went to the moon, check out this album of around 11k HD images from the apollo program.

I'm interested to see what other "lies" you think they have told.

Because NASA are the only ones in space.

Did you know China has a space program? And Japan? And Russia? Oh my!!

There are quite a lot of countries with space agencies: Iran, Israel, Brazil, Mexico, Vietnam, Turkey, Morocco, Nigeria, Mongolia, Peru, Greece, India, Singapore, etc. The list is long, not all have launch capabilities though.

That's the point. If the Earth was flat, each of these space agencies would be complicit in the GLOBALIST AGENDA of CONSPIRING to INFLUENCE THE MASSES that the Earth is a GLOOOBE.

Which is to say, they aren't conspiring such a thing. The planet is not flat.

That's exactly what is happening and why the FE/Fake space conspiracy is so important. It shines a light on how bad it actually is. World politics is nothing more than WCW wrestling. A bunch or "world leaders" playing their role on the world stage.

You actually think every single space agency around the globe is conspiring to hide the shape of our planet? Do you actually believe this? This would require millions of people from all around the world to "know" the planet is flat, yet insist it's a globe, among other impossibly ridiculous activities.

If the Earth was flat, everyone would know for a fact. Anyone in a plane would be able to tell, anyone who skydives for fun could tell, anyone who flies drones could tell, anyone who can launch an amatuer rocket with a gopro could tell, anyone who has climbed Mt. Everest could tell.

For the Earth to be flat, mathematics would have to be 100% wrong, geometry would have to be 100% wrong, as would the laws of physics, perspective, ratios, and so on.

THE EARTH. IS. NOT. FLAT. END OF STORY. This is like insisting that room temperature water is actually a solid, and everyone who says it's a liquid is actually conspir-

wait...

Is room temperature water a solid? Is mother nature conspiring to convince us that room temperature water is actually a liquid, when in actuality it's a solid? Are our elementary school teachers lying to us systematically, in an attempt to discredit the solidity of room temperature water?? Is the GUBBAMINT enforcing this blatant propaganda so that we fall for it? Obviously, room temperature water is a solid, and if you insist otherwise, you're a paid shill! Only MORONS fall for the old, "Room temperature water is a liquid" bullshit that's constantly being pushed be weather forecasts, physics, precipitation tables, and chemists! Dear lord, we've gone full globe!

(This is how you sound. The Earth isn't flat. I rest my case.)

It's flat, motionless, and it's completely obvious. You simply have never considered the possibility because it's outside of your lifelong indoctrination. You live in a manufactured reality created by the Occult. Start with the Moon landing hoax. If you seriously research that there is no way to conclude that it was real. It's worse than an episode of Mystery Science Theater.

It's flat

No, it's not.

motionless

Again, no, it's not.

and it's completely obvious

...once again, no, no, no.

I have considered the possibility that the Earth is flat and motionless, but due to the astonishingly obvious natural phenomena that contradict your baseless, unprovable, silly little theory, I regained my sanity and concluded that the Earth is not flat, nor is it motionless. I am, however, interested in the fictitious, manufactured internet hoaxes that have led you to fall for such a silly delusion.

Is it because someone once told you that ancient constellations haven't changed? Because they actually have changed ... quite a bit!

Is it because someone shared a clever, non-mathematical "explanation" for how a Flat Earth would be possible? Well, mathematics (and physics) prove it's not possible.

You simply have never considered the possibility because it's outside of your lifelong indoctrination.

If this is your honest response, then I assume you are a person who prefers to do your own research, correct? If so, I implore you to click on the hyperlinks which I have included in this post. Until you actually do so, you are standing on zero legs of honest, factual debate.

Eventually, you'll wake up, and you'll realize that you have fallen victim to the single most unfortunate Psyop that has ever been devilishly, and creatively, assembled for identifying individuals who would rather believe a lie than face a truth.

Cheers!

Eventually, you'll wake up, and you'll realize that you have fallen victim to the single most unfortunate Psyop that has ever been devilishly, and creatively, assembled for identifying individuals who would rather believe a lie than face a truth.

It's always sad to see this projection coming from victims of the false spinning ball in outer space illusion.

I take it you've made absolutely zero effort into researching the actual shape of the Earth. I assume you haven't clicked on any of the links I've provided which, simply put, PROVE YOU ARE INCORRECT IN YOUR SILLY BELIEF.

Delusional people will always refuse evidence that contradicts the embedded belief that has been instilled in them by their mental illness. I'm very sorry you willingly structure your belief system in such a way. I truly hope you come around and attempt to make an effort to learn the truth.

Unlike you, I researched Flat Earth and concluded it was bullshit, unlike the factual Globe Earth.

Cheers!

Unlike you, I researched Flat Earth and concluded it was bullshit, unlike the factual Globe Earth.

LOL nobody does that.

People who are not susceptible to delusions, and people who are able to actually back up their arguments, can and do. You do not fit this criteria unfortunately. Have you given any thought toward clicking the links I've provided? Because if you do, you'll possibly conclude the Flat Earth Theory is 100% fictional drivel. Possibly.

Or maybe, "You simply have never considered the possibility because it's outside of your lifelong indoctrination."

I lived my entire life believing the spinning ball lie. Until you actually get out there and test it all for yourself you will continue to blindly defend the lie. If you believe we landed on the Moon there is no point in even trying. If you can't see the ISS augmented reality puppet show then you have too far to go to see any truth. I'm weary of debating with indoctrinated zealots so I'm not going to bother with you. It's your religion and you don't even know it. It's very sad.

Please, humor me. How did you get out there and test it all for yourself? What scientific tests and experiments did you, personally, conduct in which you proved the Earth to be both flat and motionless?

I haven't proclaimed to believe we landed on the Moon, by the way, you're putting words into my mouth because you're feeling anxious about the fact that you can't prove a single god damned thing you sheep.

Also, this is how I know you are 100% bullshitting me:

I'm weary of debating with indoctrinated zealots so I'm not going to bother with you.

Buoyancy/density tests, gyroscope tests (trying to show precession), horizon distance tests with telescope trying to show curvature. Telescopic observations of the stars and planets (wandering stars). Observations while on airline flights. Observing evidence to the contrary that I've always belived such as boats going over the horizon, NASA photos, Moon landing, ISS videos. Looking into tests such as Airys's failure, finding the problems with Eratosthenes assumptions, seeing how everything builds on Newton's formula for gravity which is simply assumptions based on assumptions, looking at flight paths in the southern hemisphere, asking a NAVY SEAL sniper I know IRL if he accounts for the Coriolis effect (he does't). Understanding human perceptive and how it explains sunsets much more than the globe model, cell phone level apps, discovering Foucault pendulum is a complete fraud, understanding that water is always level and does not curve/bow or flow up a hill. There is so much evidence it's overwhelming.

At least now I know you're 100% bullshitting, because literally zero of the things you just spouted are true. Well done, sheep! Baahhh! Bahhhhhhh! Bahahhaaa!

Classic response from a brainwashed shill. I use both terms because it's impossible to tell the difference between you.

You are the brainwashed shill unfortunately, and you don't even realize it. You're parroting typical Flat Earth jargon that doesn't actually make sense, and is easily debunked with simple mathematics and physics (as well as the reasoning of a 2 year old.)

"Buoyancy/density tests"? You fail to elaborate, which makes it clear you're pulling shit out of your ass. "gyroscope tests (trying to show precession)"? Same thing, this is meaningless when you fail to demonstrate any scientific, experimental merit. "horizon distance tests with telescope trying to show curvature"? If you actually carried such 'tests' out you would easily conclude the Earth isn't flat. The list goes on.

Simply put, if you did any actual tests, you'd quickly realize the Earth isn't flat, unless your delusions are THAT strong.

Due to the nature of your extremely embedded delusions I will no longer be responding to you, regardless of circumstances. Nothing you can say or do will entice me into responding to you. Good-bye forever, you poor, brainwashed, parroting sheep.

You poor lost soul:

Rom 1:21  Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 

Rom 1:22  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 

Yes really. I'm not going to give a dissertation to you on the subject. Research it yourself. If you have any love for the truth you will easily see it. If you want to continue to believe the lies then you won't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0xClWgidZU&t=

" If you have any love for the truth you will easily see it. If you want to continue to believe the lies then you won't."

Simple.

It's not my fault your predecessors 500 years ago got away with peddling their nonsensical claims of a spinning ball flying through outer space and had the support of the Jesuits/Vatican pushing it. Do different than modern day disinformation. You live in a fantasy world crafted for you by the Occult. I can't convince you of your delusion, you can only find your own way out.

So Godzilla must be real too. I have a picture:

https://imgur.com/a/730ZY

Good job!

nobody but a child is going to believe it is. And even then, most kids I know would just laugh.

Yes, exactly like this mystery science theater level effects nonsense:

https://youtu.be/8SfyE9qsG8k?t=4m24s

Meet Himawari 8 - a geosynchronous satellite which gives us a natural colour, non-composite, full photograph of our earth every 10 minutes.

https://himawari8.nict.go.jp/

Oh, and it has nothing to do with NASA.

Congrats, you fell for another hoax.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3S9P5KlH7Q

That's all you've got isn't it? YouTube videos.

I mean, I can literally compare the real time images with other satellite images from other sources and see the exact same cloud formations.

Buuuut nooooooo everything's a hoax in your eyes

You believe in pictures from TPTB. Have fun with the fake aliens when they bust them out on you.

Hehehe acronyms are fun

This is kinda right-a conspiracy is that conspiracy is being actively and somewhat successfully pushed. Every day there are more of these idiots who question gravity or say the earth is flat..it is a thing.

The spinning ball is a 500 year old Vatican/Jesuit PsiOp. It's the most ridiculous collection of fake science there is supported by NASA hoaxes that are worshipped by legions of brainwashed victims. I used to be one of them until I actually took an objective look.

Lol.

Lol

As far as I'm concerned, anything I cannot verify for myself is potentially a lie. I've never seen a globe Earth from space with my own eyes, and therefore, it may not be a globe. I certainly do not trust NASA or the government. We're lied to so much about so many things I find it very difficult to take the word of authorities, scientific or otherwise.

I see alot of people writing off FE as bullshit.

Personally, I truly love to view things from as many perspectives as I can.

I really don't have a solid conclusion for FE or GE. D

We live in a fear based society. The Bible was not meant to be taken literally. The people that do are slaves of fear. The ones who do not are made wise.

The Bible is absolutely FULL of metaphors and allegories.

I think the Earth is flat but for personal reasons. Not biblical.

In order to understand FE you have to view things purely objective.

You NEED to view the world from a different perspective than everyone else because it's literally about perspective.

200 proofs by Eric Dubay.

Watch a little bit of that. He explains and breaks everything down in detail.

Pretend like you're in school and you know nothing about the world and Eric is your new teacher.

You have to be open minded.

The world is truly not what it's portrayed to be.

Watch a few of his videos to really understand how the Flat Earth works.

You don't know what you don't know.

I actually watched Eric Dubay's 200 proofs. All 200 of them are laughably debunkable if you do even the tiniest amount of research. FE "theory" is a joke.

If you believe in the flat earth "theory", you are not being open minded. You are only allowing information that confirms the "theory" in, because otherwise you wouldn't believe it. If you want to make any arguments for the flat earth, I would be happy to debunk them.

Hey I know this isn't the right place for this but I figured I would start somewhere. Punish me if you must but this is pretty fucking important.

I think both Flat Earthers AND Globe Earthers can agree on one thing. Net Neutrality. The decision to repeal or keep it December 14th is this Thursday!

If you don't know what it is then I strongly suggest you look into it.

https://act.freepress.net/sign/internet_wake_up_destroy/?source=share

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/do-not-repeal-net-neutrality

It's infringement on our rights.

This will effectively kill the first amendment by prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The internet is now a necessity for millions and is considered a public domain!

Don't let this go. It affects each and every one of us common folk.

O.o

It's perfectly reasonable to conclude that the earth is not a sphere. The flat earth model is logical and reasonable and there explanations for most observed natural events. Don't be so rigid to think that the globe earth model is infallible. It too is an incomplete model. The tides have never been adequately explained, for example.

What isn't reasonable is the beligerence that is displayed by people who believe in a globe earth, and who lash out in fits of rage merely because their world views have been challenged.