just becuas its wacky or out there dosent mean there isn't some truth to it.

i dont think David icke jus invented the idea. reference to reptilian overlords are scattered though out acient lore and biblical references to snakes.

I'm not well versed on subject, but jist as there is no proof of them. there is no proof they don't exist as well.

The New World Order conspiracy has tons of supportable evidence, documentation, and admissions from the architects themselves in their memoirs. We should be devoting our attention 100% to stopping them.

On the other hand, there is not a single legitimate piece of evidence to support the idea that reptilian shape shifting creatures have infiltrated positions of power. So why even bother bringing it up?

If it IS an engineered disinfo/discredit theory, then we should definitely divorce ourselves from it. It makes us look bad to the masses, who we desperately need to reach.

I agree that there is overwhelming evidence for the NWO. I try to talk about the Mystery Schools as often as I can on here.

Mystery schools are the avenues through which the elite are channeled into positions of power to create this one world government. You're correct.

I see your point. but isn't NWO basicly confirmed?

Here's my problem with the sub...

To me, the "conspiracy" IS the NWO.

The goal of the elites to dominate the globe and create a global government that rules over all of us. Every other conspiracy song the elites is just a "mini conspiracy" toward this grand plan of a global takeover.

People have been dreaming of taking over the globe and enslaving the population for years. They bags convened and organized for centuries. Now they think they have the technology to actually go through with it.

but there is a massive awakening of humanity happening in the background of all of this. I'm on that side. That's pretty much all I can say.

l see where you are coming from you think the reptilians thing is holding us back.

Right, like all the new potential aspiring conspiracy theorists who want to delve into this world, could be turned away once they hear his reptilian theory. It makes it look like everyone endorses the theory, and we don't. It's like next level wacky...

tru tru but the flip side of that point is that maybe would be theorists might bored or dissuaded from looking into entry level stuff like NWO bunch of old creeps. but reptilians on the other hand may be colorful enough to draw them in.

also I dont wanna alienate ppl that do subscribe to such(reptilian) theorys they have just as much offer as me and you imo

The idea and point of this sub is to discuss all conspiracies. There are all kinds of people here that like to discuss a wide variety of things. Asking for this one to be dedicated to just the NWO is taking away the freedom to have those discussions.

If you really feel there needs to be a dedicated sub for NWO, you should create one. There is plenty of information to be able to fill the pages rather quickly.

As for trying to create a “united” conspiracy imagine, I’m not so sure how well that would be received or conveyed.

I think its really odd that every "conspiracy" I see you comment on is the exact opposite of what the majority here thinks. Its almost like you're in the wrong sub for some reason. Is there ANY conspiracy you believe in? And don't tell me the one where Hillary was screwed out of the election or Trump drinks too much Diet Coke.

I think its really odd that every "conspiracy" I see you comment on is the exact opposite of what the majority here thinks

Lol how so? The majority here know Alex jones is a shill, We know Pizzagate is real, we know extraterrestrial life exists, we know there is an agenda to create a world government, and we know Freemasons have Infiltrated positions of power. We're smarter than you think.

There's a lot of fucking "noise" on this and other conspiracy subs. That fact we don't buy a lot of the outlandish shit that has no evidence to support it, shouldn't be a problem.

It's a testament to how intelligent we are, we can see through the bullshit disinfo.

It appears you speak for this sub. Theres a lot "we" in that comment. 7 times in 3 paragraphs.

Its almost like your projecting.

I've been here long enough to have gotten a feel for how the majority think here. I'm no messiah, and I'm not out for karma. this is just a self post of my thoughts. Triggered ?

Not here for karma yet you took the time to downvote me. "Triggered?" Are you 13 my man?

25 days is a long time in your timeline my friend? Ok you do you. I not going to respond again. Ive said my peace.

I don't think Pizzagate is real, like thise particular people framed are not actually involved in the pedophilia ring. Was disinfo to distract from DNC rigging, Bernie, the Trumppet and looming WWiii.

it's a metaphor for those who lack moral compass

There are several theorists who don't see it as a metaphor. I wish they would take your advice..

no theory, just a neocortex

Trying to lump reptilians in with the flat earthers.

Found the misinformer.

Reptilians are real. Get over it.

This is a paradox

Lol you sound ridiculous dude...

Reptile shape shifters run the world vs the earth is flat...the goofy wacky disinfo theory fight of the century..

Just because it sounds ridiculous doesn't mean it's not true. For a time, talking about trillions of tiny creatures that you can't see, that can make you sick, that are all through the air and all throughout every living thing was absurd. It took 200 years from first observation to a fully formed understanding of germ theory. Failure to believe in it does not make it any less factual. Appropriately enough, believing the Earth to be a globe was considered ludicrous at one stage (only thing I've taken from flat Earth is that almost all images of the Earth from space are composites, NASA admits this. As well as, footage from within the ISS is not as it seems - everyone should know that)

I do agree that it is convenient that there is no real proof.. Icke talks about the electromagnetic spectrum, visible/invisible light and the frequencies the reptilians operate at and yet there's no way to photograph such beings.
We have to take his word for it, based on so many other things found to be true, learnt on an ayahuasca trip; the descriptions given by mediums/psychics or video anomalies where public figures have reptilian eyes.

Exactly what I noticed at first glance. Hell even threw in Alex Jones for the extra spin. Idk if Reptilians are real or not but you will damn sure never see me making a post like he has here.

very well stated. they try to discredit things by lumping them together. usually they know NOTHING about the subject and can only ridicule.

You are completely incorrect on David Icke. He has done more to wake up humanity than anyone. You need to do a significant amount of research on the Reptilian subject to even comment on the matter. FACT: Reptilians have been talked about by cultures all over the world for CENTURIES. Alien Abductees have seen them countless times. Government Whistleblowers have seen them in Deep Underground Bases. All of this has NOTHING to do with David Icke.

Edward Van halen did not invent the "tapping" technique on guitar.

However, he made a mainstream technique and took it to the next level.

Same with David Icke. I understand that there is scripture regarding reptilian entities. But Icke is the figure that claimed that the people ruling is are reptiles in the literal sense. And it sounds ridiculous when no proof is provided. You would agree it creates a negative stigma to the conspiracy culture, no?

I like your analogy.

Thanks man. I'm a musician.

Awesome. So am I. What do you play?

Haha, bit of everything really. I write on the piano mostly.

Ah, see, I was wrong about assuming guitar. I also play a bit of everything. I main bass and learned piano and guitar when I started getting into jazz harmony. Started drums later cause that’s what I wanted to play as a kid. It helps to record your own stuff when you get old enough that no one else has time or inclinations to play anymore.

Also, I agree with your reptilian comments.

I am as well, and very disappointed by your views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSLyDQUIkmc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7hHv0G2cc8

try actually reading one of david ickes 700 page books and then you can make assumptions. if you are too skeptical to do substantial research you should try checkers or yahtzee instead. calling the theory "goofy" shows you can make labels but are in fact too intellectually lazy to actually research the subject you ridicule.

I have read the books, as have many of us who still deny his theories. Many of the things he says and references are true, but there is that 10% of outlandish, and yes, goofy theories that are designed to turn people away from his information. That's what a gatekeeper does.

This is starting to catch on within the conspiracy culture as you can see

https://youtu.be/GBUAV01AiDc

That's Eric Dubay, a flat earther, in your source by the way. Lmao.

Alien Abductees have seen them countless times.

That's interesting, but who are these abductees? Could you provide a credible source? I like to believe in this stuff, but I have yet to see any real evidence.

1)http://hybridsrising.com/Hybrid-Project/Hybrids-Rising-Reptilian-Dracos-HP.html

2)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO6mcdPWYoY

3)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0rrj-G2D0U

4)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4Skmwn4acI

5)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMCCU7Twd6M

I think we should look at "Reptilians" as the people who have had some form of lobotomy/"enhancement", ie, their reptilian brain rules behavior and decision-making. I don't believe they can alter their appearance, but I think they are psychopaths.

As for appearance-shifting, that's demonologists. Those fuckers are scary, because they think they have powers. Which again, I think is something else regulating the human emotional response.

The good news is the basic human spirit is stronger than these attempts at deity - incantation.

Completely agree AJ is disinfo and a psy-op. Have been in this sub over 4 years and still haven't read any Icke.

I am torn on this one. On one hand there is good evidence to suggest that Reptilians are those who operate from the R Complex. The part of the brain - and this is the limit of a Reptile brain - that operates from fear and survival instincts.

On the other hand I have read Scripture, history and traveled to Bolivia and without a doubt there are myths and history involving Reptilians. And we're not even touching on one of the fundamental motifs of human culture, the dragon and snake.

So I'd say there is plenty out there to keep the conversation alive and not close our minds to a mystery.

How do you feel about the possibility of it being pushed as a means to discredit the conspiracy culture?

I think there is always a possibility. Icke really strikes me as sincere and has been consistent over the years. Obviously I don't know the man so I really don't know. Someone like Jones...I've seen his journey and it looks like the demons are eating him alive.

My best guess is that Icke truly wants to spread the word about what is going on but knows the truth is really only allowed to be distributed as entertainment or satire. Much like the jester of old and the stand up comedian of today. Being an entertainer I think he veils these hard truths with the cover of the Reptilians...but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

I'm naturally skeptical of anybody who has Achieved such fame and recognition in the conspiratorial arena as he and Jones have. I hope you can understand why.

Well I definitely understand why you are skeptical. I am as well. I don't think someone like Icke is installed, rather they are useful in locating the demographics, behavior, etc of those who are attracted to this information and then anyone who deems an individual as a threat can be marginalized.

I think we could probably agree that Icke would be marginalized if he was deemed a threat but is probably seen as an asset since his material is now associated with conspiracy loonies. That's not his fault though...he doesn't stand a chance against the broad powers of social manipulation and associating certain words/symbols/ideas with values...

Jones has ZERO in common with david Icke. Jones is Mossad. David Icke works non stop to expose the various NWO elements including the Mossad.

With as many stars and planets that we know about, there are probably every kind of developed creature you can imagine.

It is not unlikely that humans have been manipulated social and genetically over history by other species. They may not be reptiles but at this point their physical qualities shouldn't be the focus of discussion.

There is more evidence and premise for a reptilian humanoid species than us. Science has already confirmed dinosaurs were here over 100 million years ago, plenty of time for them to evolve. Raptors were/are likely highly intelligent and probably live in the inner earth somewhere.

I've been here long enough to have gotten a feel for how the majority think here. I'm no messiah, and I'm not out for karma. this is just a self post of my thoughts. Triggered ?

no theory, just a neocortex

That's Eric Dubay, a flat earther, in your source by the way. Lmao.