Listen this theory that nothing happened is kind of a little sketchy. I know of someone killed there with 2 degrees of separation from myself. I know of many people that can be verified this way since I live in Southern California. That being said, if you're looking to start an actual discussion you could have a different approach than being inflammatory and baiting in the way you ask this question.

Unless of course your goal here isn't a civilized discussion :).

So I'm not wrong you're here to inflame and cause chaos, not discuss. I can give you my word that I'm being honest. This is the internet however, if you chose to believe me you can. If you don't then you won't- but trust me friends- my words and statements are real.

Why, my statement and experience prove your sentence incorrect. People were killed, therefore bullets were used. Did I really need to spell that out?

Nothing to see here folks, keep scrolling!

Clearly

https://streamable.com/aswyw

I only hesitated to post this because I'm wary of sharing anything visual having to do with that incident based on what's happened to survivors of the incident.

If anything you're just trying to discredit this post, it's obvious that the poster is just trying to prove a point.

That's what the poster is asking to happen, what other replies would you expect here?

maybe links video evidence?

I didn’t see where OP said anything about people dying. I know someone who died. No one will tell me how. No one will say how she died. Where is the video with evidence of bullets? I’ve wondered this myself. I was at the site a few days after serving food to the first responders and local victims. Only “evidence” of bullets I saw were on the fuel tanks that had already been “patched.”

Ok, I'm out. I'm not going to try and suggest differently to someone who believes that they were killed another way mainly because I can't refute this or propose a logical answer to what you're saying. If you truly don't believe these people were killed by gunshots then- what were they killed by? I'm really curious to know what this theory is.

I settled on it being a failed human trafficking exchange. Given that the douchey Saudi Prince was there.

This isn’t about people dying. This is just a call for evidence of bullets. The blood pictures are interesting but still not anything on bullets. Have you seen what a high velocity round does to a person? I have. Things don’t add up.

Ok, so what killed these people then. There's very clearly victims of incident here. I can't logically deny that to myself. I know that there are people that died there. What is the opposing theory to the cause of death. I wan't to know what you think. I'm willing to accept that maybe there wasn't bullets- you have to be willing to accept that there were victims. If were both correct, then the killer is?

I work as an audio engineer for a company that is contracted for events such as this. I have friends and associates in the industry that were present for the entirety of this event. Everyone in Vegas is still talking about this and sharing their stories. I have heard stories of people being trampled by stampede. I have heard a story of a person having equipment fall on them. I have friends suffering for various injuries caused by panic and crowd behavior. I have heard stories of gun fire coming from every direction. I have not heard a story yet of anyone seeing a person shot or die from a gun shot. I personally am not sure the numbers are correct but I can not say that nobody died because I know someone who did. There are questions pertaining to her death but again, this is not what OP is asking. Another upvote to you for conversation.

I can buy that, there was a lot of videos of gunfire after the incident occurred.

https://streamable.com/aswyw

Are these shots shown on the video, gunfire explosion from guns not real?

I’ve watched that one a bunch too. I wanted to believe it fed the multiple shooter theory and even better, it looks like a security officer or leo. After much scrutiny, I am part of the crowd that sees this as a well, (or poorly,) timed flash light. Could be gun shot for sure though. Still not a bullet hole or spent round... Here’s an upvote though. I like your effort.

I'm not really making an effort to paint this story any particular way. I'm genuinely interested in what other people think happen. I can't possibly know everything, new information is welcome.

All we can do. I think that’s why OP is asking what he is, it seems someone is lying...

Well that much was clear from day one. I think the VIP being escorted out as well as lack of videos plus what happened in SA recently give more truth to this being a botched human trafficking exchange.

An upvote for you for not falling for the official narrative however.

"guise my friend died there. .. trust me it really happened!!"

LMAO

"Everyone on the internet lies" ask yourself.... why are you here then?

not everyone --- i trust people who post links like the OP asked --- but you and your "anecdotes" ?? not so much LOL

You don't have to, I even stated that myself. It's literally 0 skin off my back since I know I'm telling the truth.

good for you that you believe yourself. We don't believe you.

No way, people on the internet don't believe other people??? Did I not even state that myself? Why berate that point on a board for discussion. If you can't at least believe that some posters are honest, legit, hard working good people why even come here? Its good to question everything, especially people in power. Its not so good to continuously admonish and diminish your fellow man, even the ones who you would find largely agree with you.

Bullshit is easy to smell. You're full of it.

What proof do you have really? What proof do I have. But here have the last word. Its simply not important to continue to argue with people when I know I'm telling the truth. Your word does not fundamentally alter reality, as much as you would like it to so that you can continue to dive deeper in to the paranoia that's making you be this way.

A: There are bullet B: There are no bullets

Go take a course in Logic. Then you'll understand that the burden of proof is on A. Until then, no one believes your bullshit stories.

You haven't read any of the comments on this thread to see that I agree with your statement. Keep arguing with them ghosts tho bro.

So you agree that no bullets were shot in Vegas. Great. But you still insist you know someone who was shot there. Bro, do you even logic?

I insist someone was killed there. Why don't you read the entire thread before continuing to do what you're doing here? This is lazy and in poor form for someone who frequents conspiracy sites don't you think? You could even just click on my user name to see all the comments made in this thread. Straw-men are for crows not people.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7jbmcn/complete_this_sentence_or_meet_your_doom_the/dr58j4o/

https://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2017/oct/02/list-of-fatalities-former-metro-officier-one-of-th/ this is a list of the fatalities. What do you propose happened to 60 people if they werent shot and killed?

http://s3.amazonaws.com/trr.images.cdn/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/02095117/Screen-Shot-2017-10-02-at-7.21.57-AM.png this is a picture of a woman bleeding on the ground. I still want to know your view on the whereabouts of the people who have been reported deceased.

What are goalposts?

You are correct i haven't been able to find a photo of a gunshot wound or bullet impacts on the ground. However it is still possible that those crime scene pics are still classified and censored on the internet. I do understand and appreciate your view because its open to an alterate theory. But there could be a more simple and honest explanation.

So that’s what it’s all about. Winning. Just go to 4chan. That’s where you belong.

Las Vegas massacre victim from Maryland will be home for the holidays, mom says - USA TODAYhttps://apple.news/A9MQFTDPOTY2izy021SA7og

Not a contest when you’re just using the lack of posts (because of how you shit everyone down) to your advantage and judging yourself....doesn’t work like that.

Also not a contest because we’re talking about actual human lives. Grow the hell up.

Posted below, idiot.

This guy is the lowest. No discussion. No theory about why this would be faked. Accusatory. Belittling. Where are the mods for this sub? None of this contributes to any sort of intelligent discussion. All put downs and name calling. Don’t buy into his game. He just keeps the same thing going.

Funny you should say that. I was reported earlier for saying “idiot” and was banned for participating in the sub. Ended up having a long exchange with one of the moderators about OPs specific behavior. Shared a bunch of his extremely rude and pointless comments that are only aimed to bring others down as they also went weeks back into his posts. I was unbanned after all of this. Hopefully they realize this person is a real issue and finally take care of it. I just forwarded your comment to the mod I was speaking to as the timing was just too great.

That’s awesome. Thanks.

How you post a video proving that no shots were fired and nobody was killed? See how easy that was?

extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs. The burden of proof in this situation is on you. Not the other way around.

Good luck getting any kind of info or evidence out of what happened in vegas. But still the burdens on you to prove that no bullets were actually shot. Times a tickin'!

No it wasn't. He wasn't asking for proof that they weren't shot but that they were. This person is highlighting the fact that there is no physical evidence of actual shots fired. Not hard to grasp kid.

There's a video of bullets ricocheting off the pavement

How do I time stamp on mobile?

30 secs

I am completely unable to detect sarcasm through text....but you're welcome!

I've always been a model student

When all else fails... ad hominem

Almost all of the videos have obvious sounds of ricochet. These are the same videos that people think are multiple shooters.

There's footage of it. I couldn't say about the multiple shooter theory I still can't process all these inconsistencies honestly. Everything is a mystery to me. The only thing I personally know for sure is that I feel sorry for the people who died and their families. Something like this is my worst nightmare.

Yes. The ricochets are interpreted as other shooters. I haven't heard convincing audio of multiple shooters. You can definitely hear reports, cracks and ricochets in a lot of the videos, so live ammo was used.

Were people killed? I guess. I didn't know any. Were people injured? I guess. I didn't know any.

Where OP is going wrong here is that he doesn't have to be convinced in order for it to have happened. He doesn't matter as much as he thinks he does.

I don't know anyone from a mass shooting but I still think people have died in them. I actually do know someone who was at the abortion clinic here in bham back in '98 but that's a different type of situation all together. Just the only person I know involved in an act of terrorism.

Literally all of the video I have watched that included gunshots provided the evidence you are looking for.

Your inability to understand the different sounds is not my problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NthN9qH9_g

At 1:00 you begin to hear a long volley that includes 3 sounds. Cracks (caused by the projectile breaking the sound barrier), distant reports (from the weapon--this occurs AFTER the crack) and occasional ricochets.

These aren't multiple shooters, they are one weapon firing supersonic rounds.

The ricochets aren't important for you, since you're just asking if live ammo was used. A crack will not be heard if there is no projectile, you would only hear the distant report.

Now move on and quit trolling.

Well, against my better judgement, I tried.

We are talking about visual evidence here, not the sounds of "cracks."

A crack is proof of a supersonic projectile.

Your submission is appreciated, inconclusive as it is.

You are a liar, and self-admittedly dumb. Your reply concludes it.

I'm sorry you're so dumb. It must be very difficult to navigate life. I hope you find the resources you need.

Unable to understand basic acoustics and video proof of supersonic ammo, joe_jaywalker fervently and proudly advertises his imbecilic mind to all by repeatedly disregarding the exact evidence he seeks in a prime example of blathering idiot confirmation bias.

Congratulations for being the dumbest person I have ever interacted with on Reddit.

Feel free to continue to post idiotic replies.

First of all, you’re a real asshole and I hope you feel like a complete ignorant idiot when you realize that this event was very real and people were in fact shot.

I have had no desire to respond to posters like you anymore because you just shut down everything anyone says. However, because of how you’re addressing and talking to the people who have taken the time to comment on your post (making it more popular), I had to say something and share.

Why don’t you take a look at this video: https://m.liveleak.com/view?i=4ff_1507067186

For me, the most telling shots were at the 30second mark. As he moves to feel her carotid, you see blood accurately come out of her mouth. Around 1:20, is the shot with a clear view of a head exit wound. In the video they are trying to feel in his hair for the entrance.

Now I think I can say with 100% certainty that you’re going to respond to this with some bullshit answer that it all could have been faked. That’s the main issue with these posts, absolutely nothing that anyone posts will be good enough for you. No matter what, it could be fake blood, CGI, fake wounds etc...

It’s actually become almost pointless for anyone to even answer to posts like this because of OP responses....which makes people not answer anymore in the first place. You then just use the fact that no one is answering to fuel the fire and post more bs like “no one? No one can post anything?!”....yea, no one posts anything because of your dick responses. It’s a cycle you’re using to win and it’s sad.

Patiently awaiting your three word asshole response as to how it’s all fake..

No bullet evidence.

I guess reading is not a forte on reddit.

👍🏻 and there it is.

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

The link is deleted, but if it's the aftermath video I saw with the dude asking people if they need an emt, it showed a guy with shit literally squirting out of a hole in his head he was fucked

Blood and gore? That’s what you want?

just evidence and blood and gore are complete fine in an open society.

https://youtu.be/mz4Ua-e1szo

Great thread. Loving the anger of those who can't provide any evidence. The psyop continues.

Yeah, people acting like his question (request) somehow dug up the dead and killed them again. And the fact that Reddit is portrayed as this uber liberal "more educated" segment of society, but can't read. The OP yelled fire in a crowded theater about yelling fire in a crowded theatre. I love it!

as always, the only proof offered is that they know someone lol

OP, you bundle of sticks. Here is the proof that a bullet hit a tarp, these frames were captured by a police bodycam video.

Video analysis: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b-AElAGxUwk

The crucial before/after frames: https://imgur.com/gallery/Abeeq

Oh shit, wait... it actually proves the exact opposite, that no round hit that tarp.

My bad... carry on.

get your head out of your ass and do some research instead of being a dumb fucktard. lazy ass, i aint gonna time stamp something cause you are too fucking lazy to research your own dumb moronic theory.