There's many good things about Trump. Easily the best president we've had in a long time.

Trump made me feel patriotic again.

Same!

You needed a billionaire to become president in order to make you feel patriotic?

Do you get that feeling when he attacks POWs, grieving widows, and gold star families?

To be fair, the people he criticized had entered the political arena, and they were dicks.

That's actually the only things I liked about him.

Made me feel embarrassed to be American again. Every country outside of China, Russia and Isreal are laughing their ass of at us.

China and the Russia are the two countries we don't want laughing at us and making our leader exit the ass-end of an airplane.

I can assure you everyone else isn't laughing. More like crying that Trump took away their Paris Climate money and is going to make the US more competitive. They liked Obama because he weakened the US.

Yeah it does suck that the only people in the world that don't acknowledge climate change is dumb fucks in America. Even North Korea is aware of it. It is a sad reality. How exactly did Obama weaken us? Last time I checked, the entire world outside of China, Russia and Isreal liked Obama a lot more than Trump. Especially all our allies in Europe and Canada.

America's carbon emissions are DOWN.

This isn't about climate change. It's about cutting the US economy down at the knees and transerfering wealth in a global socialism scheme.

Tranfering wealth go who? The rest of the world is aware of climate change.

We are paying for the rest of the world to become 'green'. That's the point of the Paris agreement. It's socialism where we hurt our economy, pay less fortunate countries, and pledge allegiance to world government authority.

That agreement would do next to nothing with carbon emission, it was a bad deal, especially for the US

So better to do nothing than to try, the American way™!

Better to spend a bunch of money on something useless to virtue signal, then?

It reduces carbon emissions, how is that not helpful? Can you breath carbon?

Well i hope you never have kids as their kids will live in a very polluted world with many countries wiped out from rising water levels.

I can assure you everyone else isn't laughing.

Nope... we're laughing. Trump is literally an "easy laugh" for any comedian.

When was the last time a US president was so controversial that members of the British Government - special relationship and all - actually opposed a visit from him?

The US has become that crazy uncle no one wants coming to the party, and most of the people around the world think Americans are insane for electing him.

Lol, who gives a fuck what comedians think?

Ya, George Carlin and Bill Hicks were two fuckin idiots. Comedians don't have any intelligent opinions.

Comedians tell jokes that people find funny. I was pointing out that telling jokes about Trump is an easy way to get a laugh because people consider him to be a joke.

The claim was that "everyone else isn't laughing" - which is most assuredly false.

Our media may be laughing here in NZ, but those of us who spend time in the US are not.

The turn around in business confidence is phenomenal, as is the rate of hiring etc.

I am travelling between NZ and the US quite a lot and from what I see, the media's blatant agenda does not reflect what is happening one bit.

OMG, billionaires are now more confident since one of them is in control, what a fucking miracle.

Give me a break.

"Business confidence" means a sum total of nothing. "Business confidence" is highest when the people are getting screwed the most.

The small business owners I deal with are far more confident, and many cases cannot find enough staff even though they are trying to.

I said nothing about billionaires.

Business owners.

How about their employees? Or are they too afraid to talk for fear of losing their job?

Given how hard it is to find enough employees for many employers, it's fair to say many workers would feel more secure in their jobs.

Yes finally some sense!

Trump is more controversial than Bush and Obama who started wars and had foreign leaders assassinated? That is the hypocrisy of your selective outrage. Obama spied on Merkel.

Trump said mean things. They aren’t laughing at him in private, they are scared at Trump’s revolution against them.

Trump is more controversial than Bush and Obama who started wars and had foreign leaders assassinated?

Yes, he is.

That is the hypocrisy of your selective outrage.

Not my outrage. Some people hate Trump because he comes across as an arrogant loudmouth asshole. Many others find him funny. Personally, I think he's exactly what the American public deserves.

Obama spied on Merkel.

Everyone spies on everyone. At least he had the decorum not to brag about it.

Trump said mean things.

Mostly he said stupid things, while claiming to be a genius.

They aren’t laughing at him in private, they are scared at Trump’s revolution against them.

See, there I go laughing again. Revolution? Not even close.

Decorum not to brag? Lol......ok. Good Guy Obama spies on your leaders and creates refugee crisis but Trump is the problem.

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Australia is laughing

So will we when you become apart of China’s sphere of influence.

Japan and Poland are also on the trump train..

Just because Japan threw an obviously patronizing shindig for Trump doesn’t mean they like the guy.

That is politics. Always a smiling face towards anybody except your enemies.

Japan and Poland both have a no bullshit, nationalist view of migration. Abe love's Trump. Hop on the yout00bz and watch videos of them interacting. He's giddy like a little girl.

Then why is Abe rolling his eyes at Trump’s insecure overcompensation of a handshake?

No they aren't!

Rather every country outside of Western Europe respects Trump. But who gives a shit Western Europe is at its weakest geopolitical point since Julius Caesar entered Gaul. Western Europe also happens to be ground zero for Zionist cultural infiltration.

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Yeah he sent more jobs to Chiba while tearing up an agreement that would have increased environmental, labor and patent protections in pacific nations making US companies more competitive. The chinese sucked up to him because a little flattery makes Trump jello. They played him like a rube.

Yeah, who knows the economy better than a penniless community organizer that never held a job or made payroll to remunerate employees?

What the hell does that stupid billionaire know about economics?

He wasn't handing out pamphlets as a community organizer.

I'll get my economic advice from "1%-GDP Obama" when I get my medical advice from a stripper at a peep show.

Oh, I'm sorry. The GDP in America is now 4% under the new administration--after just one year of the "stupidity" of this "rube," as you call him.

I'll take the "stupidity" of the wealth-generating billionaire over the 1%-GDP growth of the TPP-pimping penniless community organizer any day.

Obama was constitutional lawyer and law professor who was far from penniless. Meanwhile, Trump is a con man known for being born into money and swindling investors, contractors and banks. The concern is because he was such a risky investment he turned to sketchy money to finance his projects functionally acting as an u termedyate to launder Russia money.

Government is different from business. Furthermore, there is not one right path to president. Obama surrounded himself and listened to experts. His economic policy could be described as middle right. Obamacare was thought up by a republican think tank in the 2999s.

Finally, Obama’s was hamstrung by congress introducing stimulus and infrastructure spending and had to rely heavily on quantatuve easing. The republicans did this under the cry of austerity - although now they are happily blowing a 1.5 Trillin dollar gap to give companies and Rasin ch people a tax cut no economist once and no ceo plans on using to raise wages or invest in US capital.

As for Paris accords, most successful US states are staying in... they aren’t even implemented when Obama was there and Chiba is unilaterally stsying in and developing its own cap and trade, solar tech and wind power because they understand a modern rewewable grid and ufastrycture is a necessary investment to become the worlds leading super power.

Your 4% gtiwth is left over from the Obama administration as Trump has not done a single thing to drive it forward and with this absurd tax cut in an overheated economy and stock market we silll be do for a correction. Furthermore, we need to find a way to succeed in an eco friendly manner because if we don’t stop climate change or improve or evironndntal footprint, none of this discussion will matter.

Obama worked briefly as a guest adjunct. He was NEVER a professor.

And, as a guest on campus, all he did was race-bait. Students were shocked that he didn't talk about the Constitution at all. He just showed up and forced the students to look at black-and-white pictures of lynched blacks from the 1910s in the South.

Go Google the accounts of people who had the misfortune of having a class taught by that race-hustler.

And as for "working as a Constitutional lawyer," excellent: Give me a list of the cases he argued before the Supreme Court.

What was that?

Zero?

Fact: Obama could never pass a fucking background check. His house had to be bought by a front company owned by convicted ACORN felon Tony Rezko because Barry couldn't put in for a loan (which would have triggered a background check). Taking the bar triggers the same background check.

Barry's solution?

Despite going to Harvard law school, NEVER working as an actual lawyer, and instead going to work as a "community organizer," handing out pamphlets.

He was a con-man from start to finish.

Listen to e professional debt collector's account of the Obamas using multiple names and social security numbers--and Barry owning nothing in his own name (due to not being able to take out bank loans as a result of his aversion to background checks): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qavV1P-UMjE

Yeah, sorry: The Donald-Trump-is-a-Conman talking-point doesn't work.

Because Donald J. Trump has always BEEN Donald J. Trump.

He has never gone under a different name, nor used fake social security numbers, nor fled from background checks because he was terrified of what they would reveal.

Trump went to school to sell real estate--and guess what: He sold real estate.

Unlike Obama, going to school to be a lawyer and then being . . . a low-paid community organizer (because he couldn't pass the background check to work as a fucking lawyer).

Um, he was a senior lecturer, basically an untenured associate professor. Knowing people who where law students there at the time he lectured they remember him as a solid of non descript lecturer who largely stuck to non controversial topics and course material... which matches official accounts. He was editornof the Harvard law review and a senior lecturer at U Chicago... which is at least equally qualified to Bush junior whose claim to fame was buying into the rangers with family money before becoming Texas governor. Trump has been a fraud all his life. By all accounts Obama was a cerebral and informed President... contrary to the current occupant.

And? Never heard of the popular kid caring about some nerds laughing at him.

Yep. That is true. We more feel sad for America and wonder how on earth he was voted in

This.

Are you for real??

Yes.

I would love to know your demographics but i am guessing you won't share!

Born and raised in Texas.

What age and colour are you?

That's irrelevant.

Do you like trophy hunting?

Of course. Some of my best plats were Bloodborne and Skyrim.

What does that mean? What is a plat and who or what are they? Yeah, you fit the demographic of people who like trump. May I ask you, when you see such a beautiful anal such as a lion or elephant or a beautiful peaceful animal such as a giraffe, why do you think, oh, I'd enjoy killing it? I simply cannot grasp this concept. I love nature and want to preserve it for generations. Not kill it for fun. Please explain this to me.

He hasn't done anything yet.

Oh it's cool I'm a nipple model.

Maybe that's a good thing?

When you hire a leader to improve things it's not a good thing when nothing happens. No legislation. Just shitposts on Twitter.

• removed countless regulations sparking the economy

• Killed TPP

• Sold US coal to China

• Destroyed Isis

• Tax reform coming next week

• exposed the deep state

• Removed title 2 protection to the internet, allowing anti-trusts to be enforced

You must live in a basement

Countless regulations? Nice talking point. Which ones have effected the economy so far. Source on selling coal to China? Turns out if you bomb ISIS enough they will run away. That's been a continued effort. Tax reform for billionaires, sweeeeeet. Exposed the deep state? Like who? I think you mean whining about people that don't like him. And you think it's a good thing that your billionaire buddy just handed the keys to the internet to his billionaire friends? Cool man.

Hahahhahaha keep sweeping that sand over your head, it will eventually get quieter and quieter until it all goes black.

So no response to anything I said. Just gotta pretend I got my head in the sand. Let me know when you actually have anything to say.

Who would want to respond to someone so hilariously disingenuous with their arguments? There’s not much to do other than laugh at it, or maybe feel empathetic.

I see you still have nothing to say.

Still laughing, tough to talk.

You're on a computer or your phone. So this is a pretty lame attempt at a diss.

I can’t laugh while at my computer or phone? Fuck man Trump is ruining everything. Resisssst Hahahaha

Russia destroyed isis you blind delusional idiot. And you act like the rest are good things.

You're in a conspiracy sub and you think exposing deep state is a bad thing. GTFO

This is why a lot of people voted for him. Michael Moore said it best. https://youtu.be/S5AszM8UNNI

The job #s are real now? He said they were fake tho.

Neither of them has changed since he took office. Look at this market lmao http://www.macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart

Bwahahaha!

Name one.

What exactly has he accomplished to make you think he is "the best"?

Make your country the laughingstock of the entire planet?

What an embarrassing post.

Please be sarcasm please be sarcasm

That's the funniest and most sad thing I've ever read on reddit.

You didn't mention anything good about Trump in this post.

He's helping people turn their attention toward how shitty this government is.

That's the best we got? This guy sucks so much that we are now paying attention to how much the government sucks?

Hurr durr. No.

Cool comment.

I think he is just doing shitty things that people hate. Reddit already made a big fuss about NN and TPP while Obama was in office.

Don’t remember Obama repealing net neutrality... or appointing people to EPA who believe mercury toxicity is over stated...

Because there is nothing good.

If anything, the trump-russia conspiracy bullshit is ironically driving users to this sub, maybe some of them will start to understand the bigger picture of what's really going on

Not sure if they're helping this sub. I think they're just posting the same stuff they post on /r/politics.

Not a huge trump fan, but he is waking up tons of people who are questioning things they never questioned before (agenda of the media, deep state as part of our vocabulary etc).

The problem is he is waking up some people to question what they are told; while radicalizing another group of people to believe if they listen to what he tells them, they are woke.

https://youtu.be/S5AszM8UNNI

advocating overthrow of the government is against the law. reported this post to the FBI

Oh wait don’t you mean the past president? I think you are confused as to whom is actually against the law. Shitlary and Obama are most definitely the powers trying to overthrow the government.

Tá tú gobshite

He generates a shit ton of 8 dollar an hour jobs for mentally handicapped people. Shilling on Reddit is probably supporting the majority of our nation's mentally retarded population .

Sub-84 IQ people (about 25% of the US population), need jobs too.

Yeah, they usually join the military or police.

Actually the military has a cut off for IQ tests.

Lmao a conspiracy sub worshipping the president of the United States. What a fuckin' joke.

YEAH! How dare they have an opinion not allowed by the left! Fucking hell, muh freeze peach!

This.

Who'd have thunk it, eh?

For real, it's insane. The post comments here are mostly botted too

I'm talking about comments like "Trump makes me feel more patriotic."

I like the fact he puts Americans first. Maybe the European Union is upset but they could learn a thing or too about nationalism. Spain and Greece are not too happy about being forced into the EU, Britain neither. Trump is waking people up to the false guilt that globalism uses to push their agendas.

What are you talking about he just tried to cut corporate taxes, those are the global companies, at the same time he raised individuals taxes.

So you want him to compromise? Bring two separate sides to the table and find a middle ground right? Especially when corporations pretty much run the world and have major influence in the economy. Or no you just prefer he is a tyrant? Come on at some point everyone needs to sit at the table and try to get your demands met. You might not like him but you are shooting yourself and the country in the foot with your unwillingness to negotiate. I personally can't stand corporations but the economy relies on them for products, and jobs. I know the whole lgbtq thing is life or death for 2 percent of the population but everyone still needs to eat and pay their bills.

So you want him to compromise? Bring two separate sides to the table and find a middle ground right? Especially when corporations pretty much run the world and have major influence in the economy

Yeah, economists have found a pretty good margin that can get these corporations lower taxes and also get people lower taxes without ruining the economy. This tax bill is written as a bunch of personal favors to get people to vote yes, I'd be fine if it were written instead by an actual conservative economist.

I personally can't stand corporations but the economy relies on them for products, and jobs.

And they rely on us buying things to exist.

I don't think we disagree as much as you realize but in order to get anything accomolished you have to wheel and streak and corporations have a lot of money to make but also have a lot of influence in the economy. And economists do not agree. FYI economists are theories and furious rely on hypothesis but none of these theories have been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt and economists disagree on many different levels just because you agree with one school of thought that does not mean there is an official school of thought that all economists adhere to. That is a fact not my opinion. Try to see if you can see things from other people's points of view and take a less fanatical stance because at the end of the day everyone wants more money in their pocket to provide a better life for themselves and loved ones.

I don't think we disagree either but this tax bill is entirely against every economic principle. We are in a booming market and they reduce the tax rate? We have 4.1% unemployment and they want more jobs? Increasing the deficit at the time we need to reduce it is a horrible mistake and to combat it they want to take away some of the most effective programs we have next year to balance the budget. This same exact style of tax plan happened in the Bush years and led to a giant recession but they want to do it again?

There is more to the story than the simple formula you painted. Way more. And I wish I could talk more about it. One thing I don know is that economists use superncomputer simply to set prices to ensure they get maximum profits without setting the price too high. They do this using complex formulas that take into account a regions cost of living, income averages and more. If simply pricing a tv gets all this leg work, make no mistake they went through a lot of different scenarios before they came to this one. Can you trust it? Of course not trust is only for family. Will some fat cats make out of course. Will things be better for regular people? Hopefully. It seems trump is trying to match China's growth. Their GDP is at 7%? We still have a long way to go. From the latest trump speech I heard he said he wants employees to have their choice of employers and pick the highest paying employer that they want. That is a good thing. I can't complain about that. The tax plan does not seem so bad to me. What did you want with a tax plan? A high tax rate for employers? So that they don't spend their money on payroll? That's how it works: payroll is a cost, so are taxes, the profits come after. What would you be happy with?

One thing I do know is that economists use superncomputers simply to set prices to ensure they get maximum profits without setting the price too high and lose sales. They do this using complex formulas that take into account a regions cost of living, income averages and more.

But they hand wrote this tax bill on the senate floor at 3 am

It's clearly way better under trump than obama, numbers don't lie. It seems trump is trying to match China's growth. Their GDP is at 7%? We still have a long way to go.

That is retarded though, we are fully developed, the only thing we need is rebuilding our infrastructure. China has millions and millions of miles and billions of people, some still living on farms without access to a national electric grid.

From the latest trump speech I heard he said he wants employees to have their choice of employers and pick the highest paying employer that they want. That is a good thing. I can't complain about that. The tax plan does not seem so bad to me.

Thats won't happen unless he makes national healthcare. Without that people will always stay in shit jobs to keep their healthcare.

What did you want with a tax plan? A high tax rate for employers? So that they don't spend their money on payroll? That's how it works: payroll is a cost, so are taxes, the profits come after. So if taxes are high than payroll costs have to come down. This is reality not wishful thinking. What would you be happy with? I suspect you will never be happy with trump. That is sad and fanatical.

The stock market is at an all time high and has been for the last 5 years or so but wages remain the same. So either these companies are hoarding wealth and will never pay people more for a job they already are fine doing or they really suck at managing money. Keep corporate taxes the same, increase income taxes for the top half of earners and use that tax revenue to help the poor enter the middle class and the middle class to keep healthcare. Once this bubble bursts we can worry about bailing out the companies after we make sure the people are cared for.

I love when people speak in absolutes thinking that they sound smart. Excepts absolutes are a fallacy and easily debunked. FYI: there are very few absolutes in reality. So go back and reread and try to figure out the opposit point of view. Learn that understand the opposite of your opinion, then you will have an idea of the range of possibilities of our economy. Your absolutism is a sign of ignorance not intelligence. When you can open your mind and consider that you might be wrong you might then exhibit wisdom. Just sayin....

How were they forced into the EU?? Britain are leaving the EU but I guarantee that if it went to a revote they would not leave the EU now. Trump has only woken the rest of the world up to the stupidity of americans.

That's just your opinion, what's sad is you can't even step out of your point of view to understand anyone else. So facist and progressive of you.

I am open to all views and correct facts. What is your statenent on Spain and Greece based on? Also, name 3 things trump has done which are universally recognised as being good.

Last year Greece fought very hard to get out of the European Union because their economy has been destroyed by the austerity measures. Also Spain tried to get out but it was quashed recently. Just google it. If you want to learn. I also lived in Greece and the middle class that live there hate EUt passionately. There currency lost value and they became poorer as a result of it. I don't know that there is anything in politics that is considered universally good. I like he kept his word. That goes a long way in building trust and credibility. Politicians are known to make worthless promises. I like that he backed out of the TPP as promised. That he did not block the JFK files release. I like that he has no problem challenging the establishment. I am not a trump fanatic. I believe in holding public officials accountable. I also don't think he is an angel or Jesus Christ. However the economy is doing better than ever and reversing poverty will change society and eliminate a lot of problems, addiction, child abuse, health outcomes, divorce rates will all be positively effected with a good economy.

Greece and Spain if they wish to do so can leave - there are procedures to follow but they can. I think you are referring to the elections Greece had last year and possibly the revolt Catalonia had a few months back. Nothing really to do with what u say. Have you heard of PIGS? Portugal, Ireland, Greece, Spain. The countries who have suffered the most from austerity as a result of the EU. I am a native citizen born and bred from one of these countries. As fooked up as it is where I am, I thank god (expression i dont believe in god) that my new Government is not on a love buzz with that fake tanned reality star gombeen. The EU isnt great no but at least they recognise the fact that we need to save this planet and reintroduce coal mining to get elected

You are not that open minded if you resort to demeaning name calling about someone's appearance. That is never ok. It's hypocritical and discredits your argument. In fact shills resort to demeaning labels when they cannot convince anyone. Calling someone orange haired is as bad as calling someone fat. If all you care about is the environment then go save it. But you won't do it without enlisting mass support and you are so fanatical and extremist that only a minority will ever support your purpose. Destotoying an economy increeases child abuse rates but you care about the economy. Under dogs like children don't matter. Destroying an economy increases domestic violence rates too but you don't care about abused women either, destroying an economy increases animal abuse but that does not matter. Coal burning matters to you. But hey while Greek children get their ass kicked by their impovershied parents China burns all the coal and continues destroying the same air we all breath. But you stick to your gun and get nothing done while society goes back ward. I can't stand hypocrites. Disgusting. Your logic is self serving all you want to do is look down your nose at people while you pay yourself on the back thinking you are progressive.

You are nuts!! Also, I am a woman with children. Also Trump is a billionaire with sylists who wants to look orange. It is not the same as calling a fat person fat. Education is the key to reducing obese people - something you are ckearly lacking in.

you convince no one of your position and everything you say lacks credibility. You are a very unlikable, pety and cunty person. U have no effect and influence here. I feel gross just interacting with you. U must be a wretched person. Yikes.

😂😂

But that is exactly the worst thing about American politics - the utter hypocrisy both sides seem to revel in. Our guy did it, so it's good. Your guy did it, so it's bad. This has been going on for decades. It's so blatantly obvious, that the only rational conclusion is that it is all theater.

The truth is, these "opposition parties" are one and the same party... sent to do the bidding of the elites when in power, and block any real opposition when they are not.

Clinton does something you hate? That's cool, vote for Bush! Bush does something you hate? That's cool, vote for Obama. Obama does something you hate? That's cool, vote for Trump.

Same shit different asshole.

The people just think they've had a say in what went on, when in reality they could have had a single dictator the entire time and seen no real difference.

ITT: shareblue shills

People do not turn their heads to how shitty the government is. Right now, half the country thinks Trump's government is a wonderful blessing. The other half thinks "literally Nazis."

When Obama was in office, those same people who think the government is wonderful thought it was a secret Muslim communist coup, while the "Donald Adolph Hitler Trump" other half thought he was the second coming of Christ.

It's just a see-saw for idiots and the whole country is riding. The real problem is that nobody who tells it like it is can get past the censors in media. Perhaps Trump's only value was that he showed the way. Be outlandish enough and embrace the "no press is bad press" philosophy. I'll vote for the guy/gal who has the word "Fuck" in their campaign slogan.

Agreed. Hillary would have been a disaster, especially in the foreign policy realm. We'll have to wait to see what unfolds here in the next few years, but this is Trump's one saving grace. He did well with Syria.

Trump won't rest until there is a war and his stunt now in Jurusealm will ensure there are more attacks in the usa and a potential war in the middle east. Sure there was a failed attack last week already.

But we hoped he wouldn't bring more conflict and war but that is what he is doing.

I did not for one decond think that. I was incredibly sad the say he won and I'm not even American

All conservatives do today is make fun of whiny liberals. It's getting annoying at this point because that's all they talk about! they are obsessed with the liberals. It's quite fascinating how much time they spend thinking about their sworn enemy.

Also economies are cyclical and as the world economy improves so will americas.

Oh wait don’t you mean the past president? I think you are confused as to whom is actually against the law. Shitlary and Obama are most definitely the powers trying to overthrow the government.

Just because Japan threw an obviously patronizing shindig for Trump doesn’t mean they like the guy.

That is politics. Always a smiling face towards anybody except your enemies.

No they aren't!

Tá tú gobshite

But we hoped he wouldn't bring more conflict and war but that is what he is doing.

you convince no one of your position and everything you say lacks credibility. You are a very unlikable, pety and cunty person. U have no effect and influence here. I feel gross just interacting with you. U must be a wretched person. Yikes.

Don’t remember Obama repealing net neutrality... or appointing people to EPA who believe mercury toxicity is over stated...