So the Jews have been hated by vastly different groups (Islam, Christianity) yet we are the weird ones for not trusting them? Makes you wonder who is in charge
Maybe if there was some context i wouldnt have said that. However, if he werte to say this about blacks in the same context it would be racist. If he were to say this about women it would be sexist. Fuck zionism and fuck Israel. But theres a difference between "I dont trust jews" and "this specific jewish person did this specific crime"
When they are discriminating simply based on semitism, yes, it does. So in some ways, yes, they are. The word has seperated in some ways from its original meaning, and antisemitism has been made to become more strictly about Jews than all semitic people, but thats just semantics.
The fact of the matter is, when you are distrusting of all black people because you heard a few black people have done some crimes, it's racist. When you are distrusting of all Jews because you heard some Jewish people have done some crimes, it's antisemitic.
Maybe if there was some context i wouldnt have said that. However, if he werte to say this about blacks in the same context it would be racist. If he were to say this about women it would be sexist. Fuck zionism and fuck Israel. But theres a difference between "I dont trust jews" and "this specific jewish person did this specific crime"
Pointing out that your thoughts are pre-programmed clichés is not "Ad hominen" [sic]. What I pointed out was for your own good so you can improve, because removing your lack of arguments and you've said nothing.
I said, in short, that OP is an antisemite who's guilty of sloppy thinking. You may think I am as well, so be it.
If he/she were to say "so the blacks have hated been by vast different groups (christians, muslims) but we are the weird ones for not trusting them? Makes you wonder who's ink charge" With absolutely no context or qualifying language it would be fucking racist. Would it not be?
And it would be a completely different thing if he were to point out specific crimes by specific Jewish people to show why we shouldnt trust those people.
Well, one of the central tenets of Judaism is that the Jews are God's one and only chosen people, and that they are destined to rule over the lesser races. This leads directly to Zionism, the proponents of which believe that the interests of Israel should take precedence over those of all other nations.
Thing is though, I have a Jewish friend, and he's neither religious, nor is he pro Israel.
Then isn't he really just a semite or an Arab and not a jew? From what I understand there's very little genetically different from Palestinians / Jewish people so wouldn't dropping the religion also drop the connection to Judaism? For example I have Irish catholic heritage, but I don't identify as a Catholic, just Irish descent...
When they are discriminating simply based on semitism, yes, it does. So in some ways, yes, they are. The word has seperated in some ways from its original meaning, and antisemitism has been made to become more strictly about Jews than all semitic people, but thats just semantics.
The fact of the matter is, when you are distrusting of all black people because you heard a few black people have done some crimes, it's racist. When you are distrusting of all Jews because you heard some Jewish people have done some crimes, it's antisemitic.
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1 Balthanos 2017-12-17
Removed. Rule 12.
1 KickedinTheDick 2017-12-17
Who the fuck is we? Speak yourself you antisemite.
1 Karl_you_bitch 2017-12-17
Far right nationalists
1 lh_counterpoint 2017-12-17
Far right nationalists don't trust anybody. If a blonde haired blue eyed woman criticizes abortion she's suddenly the enemy.
1 goodnightcommies 2017-12-17
muh antisemitism
1 Karl_you_bitch 2017-12-17
It's not even real, are we not allowed to inspect ?
1 KickedinTheDick 2017-12-17
Maybe if there was some context i wouldnt have said that. However, if he werte to say this about blacks in the same context it would be racist. If he were to say this about women it would be sexist. Fuck zionism and fuck Israel. But theres a difference between "I dont trust jews" and "this specific jewish person did this specific crime"
1 Karl_you_bitch 2017-12-17
But isn't it interesting that a certain group has been questioned about conspiring to upend societies throughout history
1 KickedinTheDick 2017-12-17
Interesting, sure. Doesnt make it valid. For the last 500 years the same has been said about white people.
1 swansong19 2017-12-17
Uh huh….
White people have been expelled from almost every land they've inhabited throughout their entire history?
Btw…Palestinians are semitic too…does that make Israelis anti-semitic??
1 KickedinTheDick 2017-12-17
When they are discriminating simply based on semitism, yes, it does. So in some ways, yes, they are. The word has seperated in some ways from its original meaning, and antisemitism has been made to become more strictly about Jews than all semitic people, but thats just semantics.
The fact of the matter is, when you are distrusting of all black people because you heard a few black people have done some crimes, it's racist. When you are distrusting of all Jews because you heard some Jewish people have done some crimes, it's antisemitic.
1 swansong19 2017-12-17
No comment on the expulsion of Jews from virtually every land they inhabited throughout their entire history?
1 ConspiracyAccount 2017-12-17
It's funny because you've been brainwashed into going straight into thought terminating cliches whenever you're "supposed to".
1 KickedinTheDick 2017-12-17
Ad hominen. Refute me with logic if you have a problem with what I said.
1 Karl_you_bitch 2017-12-17
You didn't make any points lol
1 KickedinTheDick 2017-12-17
1 ConspiracyAccount 2017-12-17
Pointing out that your thoughts are pre-programmed clichés is not "Ad hominen" [sic]. What I pointed out was for your own good so you can improve, because removing your lack of arguments and you've said nothing.
1 KickedinTheDick 2017-12-17
I said, in short, that OP is an antisemite who's guilty of sloppy thinking. You may think I am as well, so be it.
If he/she were to say "so the blacks have hated been by vast different groups (christians, muslims) but we are the weird ones for not trusting them? Makes you wonder who's ink charge" With absolutely no context or qualifying language it would be fucking racist. Would it not be?
And it would be a completely different thing if he were to point out specific crimes by specific Jewish people to show why we shouldnt trust those people.
1 ConspiracyAccount 2017-12-17
I understand what you're saying, but I don't think the reverse is true.
1 Balthanos 2017-12-17
Removed. Rule 10
1 isyad 2017-12-17
Don't be racist. Zionists are the problem, not Jews.
1 advavnalncsnsacn 2017-12-17
don't be a liberal cry baby. it is obviously the jews.
1 Balthanos 2017-12-17
Removed. Rule 5
1 Findingthedot 2017-12-17
Where does zionism derive from?
1 isyad 2017-12-17
Well, one of the central tenets of Judaism is that the Jews are God's one and only chosen people, and that they are destined to rule over the lesser races. This leads directly to Zionism, the proponents of which believe that the interests of Israel should take precedence over those of all other nations.
Thing is though, I have a Jewish friend, and he's neither religious, nor is he pro Israel.
1 Findingthedot 2017-12-17
Then isn't he really just a semite or an Arab and not a jew? From what I understand there's very little genetically different from Palestinians / Jewish people so wouldn't dropping the religion also drop the connection to Judaism? For example I have Irish catholic heritage, but I don't identify as a Catholic, just Irish descent...
1 isyad 2017-12-17
There's Jewish the race, which he is, and Jewish the religion, which his parents are but he he is not.
1 advavnalncsnsacn 2017-12-17
there is no antisemitism without semitism.
1 Karl_you_bitch 2017-12-17
But isn't it interesting that a certain group has been questioned about conspiring to upend societies throughout history
1 KickedinTheDick 2017-12-17
When they are discriminating simply based on semitism, yes, it does. So in some ways, yes, they are. The word has seperated in some ways from its original meaning, and antisemitism has been made to become more strictly about Jews than all semitic people, but thats just semantics.
The fact of the matter is, when you are distrusting of all black people because you heard a few black people have done some crimes, it's racist. When you are distrusting of all Jews because you heard some Jewish people have done some crimes, it's antisemitic.
1 KickedinTheDick 2017-12-17
Ad hominen. Refute me with logic if you have a problem with what I said.