Craziest conspiracy I believe = Reptilians

No way I can convince you

Longshot=believable in this era=credible.

Look up Jimmy Johnson superbowl halftime all the proof i ever needed.

I'm not sure what video you're talking about. What am I looked for?

edit: I found it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laYQ7BMHMsM

That could just be a broadcast artifact.

It very well could be my friend

Doesn't really open his eyes fully until that transition happened either, hmmm.

https://youtu.be/YMVLlTvdMBk

If all the things you as a reptilian overlord could choose to be.....you pick being Jimmy Johnson? that's where you lose me.

Caverns under LA

Why do you believe it? It hasn't been proven false I suppose but not true either as far as I know

A vivid dream I once had. The most intense dream of my life.

I'm being speculative but it's more plausible than people think. An intelligent humanoid Dinosaur could of developed advanced technology then some fucked off during a major cataclysm 65 million years ago. They want their planet back.

Oh man. If you haven't already, watch the Star Trek Voyager episode Distant Origin.

Was so thinking of that episode as well, reading the reply

The current "craziest" one that I think is intriguing is the giant trees, "no forests on earth" thing.

r/mudfossils

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFrLkNrATGA

TL;DR there are no forests, only the relatively tiny carbon-based miniature forms of the giant silicon trees that once stood. What we think are giant mesas and mountain ranges are just the stumps and fragmented bases of these giant trees, which were all mined by enormous machines.

Whoa, wut?

It's an interesting video. Good presentation that's relaxing and conducive to deep thoughts.

The silicone life is an interesting concept but ultimately a dead end. Much more interesting is just how wrong most peoples concept of petrification is and the various processes that can accelerate it

That was really dumb. Like flat-earth dumb.

You've never even posted here, who gives a shit about you?

You're probably the type that works at a convenience store, wears a Fedora, and their only importance in life comes from "figuring out the elite."

That's not really a rebuttal, now, is it?

Basically there's some evidence that there were once giant trees like the ones from the Avatar movie. Some of the plateaus out in the Western United States could be petrified tree stumps.

A short video on it

The Republican Party allowed itself to be affiliated with Christian Restorationists and the Democratic Party allowed itself to be affiliated with Plutarchy minded bankrollers because the American economy can’t actually function without the prospect of eternal war after saving itself from the Great Depression with the WWII war effort. The Right gets to paint the Middle East as our new eternal enemy, while the Left gets to paint Globalism as the only possible path; both of which will lead to war.

What's "crazy" about this? All of the parts of this are well-known.

Khazarian mafia Rothschilds creating the jewish state so they can eventually destroy it and lead the masses to satanism.

Any links on this? I've never even heard of this one

You can read Albert Pike letter to Mazzini (just google this) which has it as a prophecy. In the letter the guy is also speaking like he's giving orders to how it should happen, so more of prophecies the right word would be plans. The timedate it was written is also kind of funny when you consider the first world war came like 50 years after.

Antarctica has an ancient civilization under the 2 miles of ice.

The ancient civilization will show that our current time line of humanity is incorrect and that we have existed for millions of years and we go through constant cyclea.

I've had some interesting discussions with historians and archaeologists about this. Now, I tend to strongly believe that the timeline of evolution is mostly correct, but that still gives us 300,000 years between "birth of homo sapiens" and today, which means that mankind lived through multiple ice ages. Humans could have easily evolved a civilization in the first 100,000 years and had it wiped out by climate change, much like ours will be soon (except we'll boil where they froze).

Those historians and archaeologists tend to poo-poo the idea - "we know everything in the past" - and yet evidence of new civilizations, like for example Göbekli Tepe, tends to pop up every couple of decades - and Göbekli Tepe only dates back around 12,000 years, that still gives us another 290,000 years of h. sapiens before that was even founded.

So I keep an open mind. One thing I am quite sure of is that there will be new archaeological discoveries that will reveal societies we had no idea that existed. Despite what many historians and archaeologists seem to think, there are vast areas of the world which have simply never been properly explored (the Antarctic being one of them).

Honestly, this theory isn't that crazy either (well.... the "millions of years" part is really hard to believe, but also not necessary to the thrust of the argument).

I was following you until you said we were going to boil due to climate change. Hahaha

yes good citizen, trust the government, if the say there are no climate change i see no meaning in questioning their word as governments always tell the truth, its not like this is a forum for questioning the official story or anything.

What? I'd say 90% of government/society also believes in climate change so I don't know why are you are claiming that being against climate change is being pro-government. That's stupid. These assholes in power are the ones who came up with the scheme. Making Trump speak against climate change serves to make people like you have an even stronger belief toward it. That's psychology 101.

people supporting climate change are usually stupid

There were plenty of people who didn't believe in climate change, or man-made climate change, way before Trump became President. Believe it or not, a lot of people don't change their opinions about various conspiracies every 4-8 years depending on what the present "government" says.

It's always been an alternative energy versus oil/coal debate in my opinion. And whomever profits from either side is not to be trusted. Obama and Trump have different friends.

Those historians and archaeologists tend to poo-poo the idea

They do because there's no evidence of such ancient civilization, I don't see any historian or archeologist trying to disprove Gobekli Tepe as something new and prove that "we know everything in the past", to push an already established timeline. Once there's evidence, they embrace it.

Once there's evidence, they embrace it.

This is laughable.

well...what other evidence like Gobekli Tepe are historian or archeologist ignoring?

The fucking pyramids for one.

Could climate change just be the fact antartica has more volcano's on it than any other continent? Maybe over time the Ice heats up and melts and floods parts of the world and the rise in sea level changes everything. Antartica used to be a tropical oasis according to admiral byrd. So how did such a drastic climate change and flash freezing happen without us on earth driving cars and killing the o-zone etc etc? Antartica is the place to be looking. It flash froze...what makes that happen?

They're putting genetically modified viruses in vaccines (substances made by unaccountable private corporations) that are activated by time or triggers, that can do things like change a person's behavior, give them a disease, or kill them. That's why they're trying so hard to make them mandatory by penalty of jail.

Watch the Channel 4 (UK) series "Utopia". Its basically this.

Utopia was incredible

It was very conspiracy theory related. And awesome music too.

Foxdie?

Jews grind up Goyim and sell it to people at Mcdonalds.

Oy, loving it.

Goddamn man...lol

now....that's interesting.

Go on......

I second this.

Please explain

Yea what's this?

Prescott Bush, Averell Harriman, Henry Ford, and John D. Rockefeller create and sustain Hitler and the Nazis. Pretty much proven as true.

They were also involved in the business plot which was aiming to make the US fascist.

Prescott Bush, Averell Harriman, Henry Ford, and John D. Rockefeller

they where all loyalist to the crown and traitors

To add to this, I believe you could argue that while Germany lost, the Nazis (National Socialist) actually won and took over America with Roosevelt.

Walt Disney was Adolph Hitler

huh, never heard of this before... any more info?

The golf rumors are about the star gate in the gulf of Aden and not about pro golfers in a material cult.

Please explain. I have not heard this one.

The blue beam shit.

Craziest shit I ever read is that the old testament God is a demiurge and is actually imprisoning humans on earth for its sociopathic angry jealous wrathful entertainment and the whole Gnostic philosophy.

Shit blew my fucking mind wide open and I honestly was never the same since, not sure what who to trust anymore

Can you link me with info on this

The Ra dialogues. https://www.lawofone.info/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge

http://occupyilluminati.com/buddha-rebuked-a-demiurge-god-who-thought-he-was-the-one-true-god/

Earth isn't Eden, and free will is a hell of a drug.

Free will is arguable. I'd say very limited free will or even an illusion of free will.

Perhaps the only ones I think have true free will are those who go against the grain of a majority of what the body, others, society wants of them. Though this could all be a Sim, and illusion

From a physics standpoint, with observation there is randomness on the quantum level. To me this is the scientific basis of free will, the infinite space/time/matter ultimately becoming able to observe itself, gain consciousness, and experience all the good and evil that springs from that. If evil triumphs I think that yields the system physically unstable until it collapses reversing the big bang.

The only part of the Bible I've read is genesis but that description seems pretty accurate. I don't blame the guy though, he waits years and years until he finds someone who hears his words, he's bored as shit. Do you really blame him for toying with Abraham a little?

Note: Above is meant to be humorous and is not a reflection of my beliefs, don't call me a Satanist or something.

Actually I agree w u. I don't think the way God is depicted by the Jews w it's jealousy, Angeles, flooding the earth etc is the real God who would be transcendent of human attributes

Gnostics are literal satanists. The ones pulling the strings (who are everywhere around you) are all avid upholders of gnosticism and of the mystery relgions. The Serpent Seed doctrine is the abolute Truth of what Original Sin actually was: not merely taking a bite out of a fruit, but satan having sexual intercourse (beguiling) Eve in the Garden and producing a hybrid demonic/humanic bloodline through Cain (Genesis 3:15). Cain isn't listed in Adam's geneology. Cain and his offspring all have inborn psychic abilities to alter human's moods with their thoughts and to dissociate from having their own [moods].
This isn't a gnostic belief (What Wikipedia will tell you), it's esoteric fact.

Gnostics believe in LAW and ORDER. Given to us by the bringer of light and knowledge. It was the demiurge that wanted us to be wondering around on earth naked like animals doing whatever our flesh inspired us to do.

Your "Grand Architect of the Universe" is not Yahuha. he is merely a jester who's read up on the mechanics of perception.

Lucifer is not God. Lucifer is only a god to himself as he doesn't care about the world he has rulership over.

I did not say lucifer was god. I said that it was the bringer of light and knowledge. The giver of law and order.

Lucifer only appears to be those to they who aren't in Christ.

Are you aware that lucifer and christ share the same name THROUGHOUT the christian bible? Are you aware that satan, lucifer and the antichrist are three different entities? Are you aware that in paleohebrew texts there was no "devil". Are you of the knowledge that this evil entity called "satan" was added to the bible some 500 years AFTER the passing of christ?

They're the unholy trinity. i.e. your 'god' or 'self' or whatever you want to believe in next. I'll stick to the KJV and personal gnosis of having dealt with satanic bloodlines face to face.

Lol. Yeah... Stick to the book a man of flesh dictated. Tell me why a king decided he needed his OWN bible...

I find it laughable that you'll bash gnosticism and then later turn around and claim self gnosis.

ALSO the very concept of self gnosis IS worship and knowledge of one's own self. You're just going around and around in fallacy.

'Gnosis' ≠ Gnosticism. "knowledge of spiritual mysteries" is self-worship, not calling yourself God. Not at all.

Gnosis. To know. Gnosticism is an ism of knowing. Period. Words matter. ESPECIALLY when deciphering occult knowledge.

This statement you just made makes my point concrete. You don't know what you are talking about and you fall back on cyclic arguments to defend a lack of knowledge. I'm done here. You can't feed a man who refuses to eat.

Okay, you won the argument. You didn't make anything you claimed true, you successfully repeated what you learned second-hand without knowing.

How do you come to the conclusion that without any concrete evidence of what knowledge I've been blessed with that i am somehow wrong or unworthy? You do not know me. In all actually what you DO know of existence and its maker is laughably minute at best. You are claiming that a book written some thousand years AFTER the fact is somehow a completely infallible authority on god itself?!

More self-worshipping . . .

I have the day off. I don't mind sitting here all day doing this. Would you like to discuss the true meaning of worship so we can get to the bones of the ideology that is self worship? Because i don't think you know what you're talking about. I'm not edifying myself.

Also it was the kjv that first introduced the idea of satan to the bible. Which was a concept that was stolen from Zoroastrian shamans. Who by the way (zaroastor) is the one man you can thank for birthing the concept of a one god religion.

I don't know who wrote the history books you read, but they're probably on the side of evolutionists as well. I may not be well-read like you, but I know the difference between knowledge and Truth. Everything that teaches theology outside of The Holy Trinity is simply a rebellion against our Creator.

You should have stopped at "i don't know". That's the only thing you've said that bares any resemblance to an intelligent argument.

Your works are of your father, the devil. Have a good one.

Your words here are of your father... Arrogance and willful stupidity...

Sorry that you got triggered when you were confronted with Truth.

Roflmwao! This mother fucker said triggered! Yeah now we're done here.

kek

You keked me?! I disavow all previous conversation. I can not hold ill will against a fellow kekistani.

I might get my hand slapped for it, but here have a hearty shake!

Do you have ptsd from the memwar? Got any rare donalds?!

Lucifer = christ = the sun

No its not. However your equation isn't wrong. As I've said before... when studying the occult "words matter".

Here's my sauce and you can check the sauces of my sauces

https://youtu.be/r9wrnlbqgb8

These word associations are not incorrect. However you have conglomerated christianity, greek mythology and roman paganism. I would again like to point out that the name satan is a mutation of shaitan.

Yea that's kinda my point, and what this video is saying, these myths morph into one another while maintaining a similar root meaning

A bit of wisdom there...

I recently binge watched all the videos on this person's (sun of saturn) channel, there's a lot of good info on there, i learned a lot

You're right on the edge of seeing something. It isn't that they are morphing into each other as much as they are remnants of something prior.

You can find a great deal of the old religion in "the Book of Thoth" by alister crowley. It isn't a text for reading so much as it is a collective of esoteric charts showing the correlation between a multitude of schools.

Nice. Yea i really want to understand more about this subject, i feel like it's really important. I definitely want to know as much as possible about the old religion

Without giving you more info than you need yet i can tell you this much. Skip over the "drama" of the old religions and look at them from the point of view of a historian, physicist and architect. Then follow the money. You'll find sooo much that's being kept from us.

Oh and yea the vid I linked mentions sheitan

The idea is that all of these cultures have different exoteric gods, when the cultures turn over the previous sun God is demonized, all the while, the esoterica in the background remains basically unchanged

Ok yea the old religion!

You are referring to the "shaitan". You are also attempting to argue occult knowledge with an adept and you CLEARLY haven't got a clue what you're talking about. The true god head knows nothing of right and wrong and cares not for the woes of man. The passing of time is irrelevant to the collective consciousness. WE the barer of souls ARE god.

Your heresy will only burn you forever. I don't care for your controlled spiritual knowledge, only the Truth that is The Holy Trinity and its dispelling of your self-worship.

You are the one in sin in this instance. Passing judgement. Also passing that judgement on a subject you obviously haven't taken the time to learn. I know full well that i am only flesh. Yes there is only one entity in existence that is mightier than myself. I know it to be the grand architect. I know that the christ is the only true light. I also happen to know the true face of god as i have sat its lap and supped at its table... You have a LOT to learn. And passing judgement on another is great way to fail one of your first lessons.

Read the whole passage, please.

I did.

"I also happen to know the true face of god as i have sat in its lap and supped at its table..."

What, on your last DMT trip you had?

No. Quite the opposite actually. It was a moment of pure lucidity. Though it's admirable that you are able to recognise that dimethyltriptomine is capable of stimulating the pinneal gland.

The mystery schools know full well that the pinneal gland IS the "ear" that hears the voice of god. Its why there is a pine cone at the top of the pope's scepter. Its why in Michelangelo's painting of man and god that God's finger is pointing straight out of the pinneal gland directly to man. I do not wish to pull you from your concept of god. Only desire to point out that the only way youll truly see the face of god is going to come from communing with it dorectly. Not from reading books or from listening to the postulations of "prophets".

tips fedora

https://youtu.be/2eHVXmT4weM

How do you interpret this video from the Vatican? To me it's clear they imply Lucifer is God because they say that Jesus was his son. Jesus is the son of God.

Lucifer is the sun

The word sin means "to not know". As in forgive father for they know what they do. Many, MANY times in the paleohebrew and christian texts, sin refers to a lack of knowledge.

Cain and his offspring all have inborn psychic abilities to alter human's moods with their thoughts and to dissociate from having their own [moods].

Do you mind expanding on that please?

So you just posted the Bible view. I'm reading the Buddhists, Vedas, Hindus, Celts, druids, rapists, natives, etc and even e that whole context the Jewish God seems like a false lower being.

There is even a writing about Buddha challenging this God and winning as well, crazy stuff. Also some NDE experiences are saying similar

Anthrax was created and spread by the US government days after 911 purposefully to invoke more fear and paranoia.. They never caught the guy who did it AND several people included I believe president Bush just so happened to be on sipro/cypro(?).. It counteracts/protects you from weaponized anthrax

If they didn't know the attack was coming they couldn't possibly have been prepared medically for it... But they somehow were.....

It's cipro, short for ciprofloxacin.

I didn't know this before, but it appears to be true that Bush was on cipro - source. That's a pretty hard-core medicine, and it's somewhat weird that they'd be given that just as a precaution - I don't see the obvious connection between "planes fly into the WTC" and "germ warfare".

I am usually here as a debunker - not because I don't believe in conspiracies, but because I think most of the conspiracies here are bogus. But this one has always bothered me.

First and foremost, I sat up when we were told that this was "weaponized anthrax from Fort Detrick" because the US was not supposed to be making anthrax at all, and this was the very first news that they were.

Next, we found out that Robert Stevens, the only actual target who was killed (all the other deaths were postal workers, hospital workers or bystanders), had just published photos of the Bush daughters falling down drunk with their underwear showing. (Note: I had trouble finding corroboration of this, but I remember this extremely clearly from the time - does anyone have good sources here? Seems like these photos in particular were scrubbed.)

Then we get to the investigation.

First, the FBI relentlessly harassed one scientist, until he hired a lawyer and fought back. Then they relentlessly harassed another scientist, until he killed himself, and then they dusted off their hands - "Good job guys!"

And yet, the story they tell has enough holes in it to fill the Albert Hall: https://www.salon.com/2011/02/16/ivans/

So color me very very skeptical about the official story here. I don't think this is a "crazy" conspiracy theory at all.

Cipro is relatively common antibiotic. I have stores of antibiotics and cipro was one of the easier ones to find in bulk. Zythromiacin on the other is a HELL of antibiotic. Google gorillacillin...

Cipro is fairly common, yes, but it's often the "second last resort" drug before going for really obscure stuff. It's really strong and it gives you a lot of side-effects. A couple of friends of mine were on it at various different times, and were just knocked out completely.

Yeah ciproflax is about the worst ive seen for body pain. It can cause actual toxic shock if the dose is too high. Most others just make you vomit if you reach toxicity.

My main stores of antibiotics are fairly common stuff like arythomiacin and penicillin. Those are a lot less toxic. And in the case that id need them there would be no poison control center to call.

"pretty hardcore medicine".. I've personally been prescribed this from 3 different doctors in the last few years for various colds or infections. Not that serious.

Vaccine fucked a ton of troops up. Myself included.

Wait can you explain more? I might be getting the vaccine later on in life and am genuinely curious. I had an instructor who got it and he said it was the most painful thing.

Can confirm somewhat. I took Cipro with me as an antibiotic when I went to the jungle. It was THE big gun antibiotic in 2001.

Interesting

Fun fact there is a vaccination for anthrax. There is this job that I hope to get somewhere down the line and if I get it I have to get the anthrax vaccine.

Hillary winning the DNC primary against Bernie

aliens on the dark side of the moon, as well as nasa withholding evidence from the apollo mission(s).

the georgia guidestones and the denver airport conspiracy seem pretty fucked up. also the black stone in the kaaba is weird af.

Ones about Jews controlling anything are ludicrous when a common sense approach is taken and after an in-depth look.

My favorite “weird” conspiracy theory is that the United States is still a British crown colony according to a secret 13th amendment to the US constitution.

Statistically speaking, there is a significant proportion of Jews in high positions in television, radio, and film. The same goes for financial institutions. So I don't know what you're getting at by claiming they don't control anything. Maybe it's not a legal control but it's a de facto control by virtue of filling all the top positions in each industry.

I wish you could see the implied non-sequitur here. And yes, Jews, among other groups, have a higher proportion of group members who are successful. But you are overstating how much. And using this logic consistently, are you concerned about whites?

I don't believe I am overstating their representation in the aforementioned industries. I'm not worried about whites because they are just pawns. The Zionists (who are mostly Jews) are the ones controlling the scene and making regular Joes place the blame on whites. Check how many members of US Congress have dual citizenship with Israel. The Zionists are a tiny organization that manipulate global media in order to convince you that the actual game being played is whites versus non whites. In reality it is Zionists versus the rest of us. Stop listening to Jew media and analyze society without seeing it through their lens.

If whites are in charge they are pawns, if Jews are in charge they are in charge? You are just contriving a standard to make sure Jews are the enemy. Heads you win, tails Jews lose. I don’t follow “Jew media” and I do not take seriously the mainstream outlets people like you mistake for “Jew media.”

That's not what I said at all. It's not hard to see that the whites "in charge" of America are making decisions in the interest of Israel and not in the interest of America. If a foreign nation was trying to subvert America, what would it look like? It would look like Americans fucking over their own country, which is exactly what we are seeing. However when you peel back the layers, you'll see that most of those guilty Americans have associations with Zionism so if they were all secret Nazis would you have any problem calling them Nazis based on their actions? No! So I have no problem calling these American congressmen Zionists based on their actions.

I'm not worried about whites because they are just pawns. The Zionists (who are mostly Jews) are the ones controlling the scene and making regular Joes place the blame on whites.

"That's not what I said at all. "

Yes it is.

You're avoiding having to refute my central argument by being pedantic. Nice escape tactic.

You're avoiding defending your own statements. Shifting the goalpost. Classic escape tactic.

You're accusing me of making unsupported arguments when that is not the case. Jews themselves boast about filling the top positions in media and finance. I don't need to source that claim. It's like asking me for a source on the claim that the sky is blue. Do you lack a working set of sense organs? Just observe.

http://humansarefree.com/2014/09/the-top-of-pyramid-rothschilds-british.html?m=0

Here's a link explaining the Crown owing the USA corporation for those that are interested.

Explain this secret 13th amendment please.

What's crazy about uncovering reality for what it is? It's the manufactured one (and the trust put into it) that is crazy.

The 2016 Election was rigged for Hillary to win, but the fix could not overcome the voter turn out. Hillary didn't win the veneral election either.

So far this thread actually has some of the most interesting and convincing theories I've seen on /r/conspiracy in a long time. We should do this more often.

Strawman

Are you talking about the birth certificate strawman creation?

Yup.

Do you think it's crazy and true or crazy and false?

I lean more towards false because I heard a good counter argument. But I think it has some interesting orchestration someone put a great deal of thought into it.

Interesting. I've looked into it quite a bit and I lean the other way, so I think it's true. The capital letters on business documents, maritime law, the fact that the Constitution is not recognized in a room that has a US flag with gold trim and the fact the USA is a corporation that was originally owned by the Virginia company (the Crown and the Vatican) make me think it's real. Anyway, one of us is right haha.

Craziest one? That all conspiracy theories are fake and that the MSM is 100% accurate

That's too crazy for me

Michelle Obama being passed off as a women.

Rush Limbaugh is actually Jim Morrison. Being a child of the military, Jim Morrison was really a Tavistock/CIA culture asset, who did his job and needed to go dark, reemerging as Rush Limbaugh. THATS FUCKING CRAZY SHIT

Donald Marshall cloning centers story. Weird stuff.

I think the simulation theory is incredibly interesting... I’m sure you’re all familiar with it but, summed up, it says that we are all living in a simulation inside a super computer and that the unobservable particles we can’t observe are the limits of the supercomputers power and the rendering process

Whoa, wut?

The silicone life is an interesting concept but ultimately a dead end. Much more interesting is just how wrong most peoples concept of petrification is and the various processes that can accelerate it

now....that's interesting.

Go on......

That was really dumb. Like flat-earth dumb.

Please explain

Yea what's this?

Your heresy will only burn you forever. I don't care for your controlled spiritual knowledge, only the Truth that is The Holy Trinity and its dispelling of your self-worship.

Your words here are of your father... Arrogance and willful stupidity...

tips fedora

It's always been an alternative energy versus oil/coal debate in my opinion. And whomever profits from either side is not to be trusted. Obama and Trump have different friends.