UFOs and the Petrodollar
81 2017-12-28 by 187ninjuh
I wanted to share a theory I've been toying with, and get some new perspectives.
China is poised to launch the Petroyuan in 2018. I'm not an economist, but as I understand it, this system will allow oil-based futures contracts to be exchanged for Yuan, which will also be fully convertible into gold.
We know that many of the wars of the past several decades have been fought to maintain American economic power, specifically protecting and propping up the Petrodollar.
So, short of starting WW3 (which is still a possibility), how does the USA ensure that they stay number one?
You introduce exotic technology that you've been keeping secret for the past 70 years, including a new energy system that renders oil effectively obsolete.
64 comments
1 Lutherkiss3 2017-12-28
Baba Vanga predicted this for 2018, a new energy source discovered on Venus. Spooky coincidence?
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
Interesting, she apparently also predicted that China would surpass the USA as a super power in 2018 as well. At least, according to an article I read that is what she said... trying to find the actual quote from her if possible.
1 pinko_zinko 2017-12-28
Are there reports of trips to Venus?
1 Lutherkiss3 2017-12-28
Haven't heard anything to that effect but if you believe there's a second space program that's top secret which some suspect then it's possible that this is happening
1 VenomousVoice 2017-12-28
Hmm. This is an angle I hadn't considered before, and definitely has some merit. But, I think it's more likely we'll see WwIII and a new global fiat currency instead.
The reason I think this is that US hegemony is really just a front operation to mask the true PTB. And TPTB don't care so much about the details of their front - they really just care about maintaining control. So it really doesn't matter if the number 1 economy is US or China or whomever. The goal is to keep the fiat currency scam in operation, and eventually replace it with a true global fiat currency that supercedes the currency of any particular nation.
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
That's my other thought, is that WW3 is all but unavoidable at this point, and when the missiles fly, the space bros will show up and disable the nukes (hopefully before any manage to hit their target).
So, to stop people from thinking it's Jesus or something, they told everyone about the UFOs.
1 VenomousVoice 2017-12-28
Only prob with this line of thought that I can see is: if aliens are intent on saving us from destroying ourselves and/or the planet, wtf are they waiting for?? I spose it's possible that due to some galactic regulation they have to have consent from world leaders before revealing themselves, but still...
The ecosystem is and has been under massive assault for decades...
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
In the long run, if humans vanished or all died, the earth and the environment would be fine. So there's that.
For the intervention part, maybe there are only certain scenarios that they would step in for, and maybe global nuclear war is one of them?
One thing's for sure, they're not here to wipe us out, or they would have already.
1 VenomousVoice 2017-12-28
Yeah, I'd agree that all of that sounds very plausible.
1 mario0318 2017-12-28
How can you be sure? What if their strategy is to wipe us out if we begin a nuclear war? What if they'll just let it happen and have it do it ourselves? They could just as well be a neutral party.
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
Presumably they are enlightened enough that they see the value of life, and are aware that the vast majority of humanity has no say or control over if we have a nuclear war. So, I really don't see them wiping us out.
1 ghettobx 2017-12-28
Presumably? There is nothing at all "presumable" about any of this.
1 RagingSatyr 2017-12-28
Intelligent life is probably pretty infrequent throughout the cosmos. Letting one kill themselves would be a tremendous loss for the galaxy.
1 mario0318 2017-12-28
Sure, but those are human concepts. Who is to say intelligence, or an intelligent society, doesn't reach a point where morality becomes obsolete and the best path forward is to let nature take its course and just stand aside.
1 RagingSatyr 2017-12-28
I think the concept of scarcity is universal, the question is if intelligence truly is scarce enough to have value.
1 mario0318 2017-12-28
Hmm..my only issue with this is simply that we just don't know if there is enough intelligent life out there. All of the stars we see in our sky are only from our Milky Way galaxy and we haven't even mapped 1% of life sustaining star systems in it.
There may be millions if not billions more galaxies brimming with intelligent space faring life. Scarcity is an issue for us because we've only just begun.
1 RagingSatyr 2017-12-28
It might make sense just knowing how lucky we got with the life shit. Unless it was deliberate panspermia which is also possible.
1 mario0318 2017-12-28
Very true
1 VenomousVoice 2017-12-28
Agreed
1 Just-my_Opinion 2017-12-28
That's to assume they consider us Intelligent.
1 CivilianConsumer 2017-12-28
Infrequent and probably existed billons of years ago, or billions of years after us, and billions of light years away.
1 RagingSatyr 2017-12-28
Billions is a stretch, but the gist of your comment is correct. However, FTL is possible through an alcubierre drive and it seems likely that an advanced society would figure this out. We're probably less than a hundred years from doing it ourselves even without potential alien help.
1 CivilianConsumer 2017-12-28
So it's fine without us , great, so what? So what's the the point of earth's existence if no sentient intelligent life is here to enjoy it as their home? And on that note what's the point of humaity working to improve enviroments if we are gonna get wiped out?
Just general questions to consider.
Also the the odds intelligent Alien's timelines match up with modern humans Earth is astronomically low , basicaly a mathematical impossibility.
Consider the billions of years of time and infinite distance of space, finding another intelligent life form who are technologically advanced at the same time as us ? C'mon, any disclosure is either Bluebeam or extradimensional Demons
1 binauralbeatz 2017-12-28
How about a faked "alien" intervention where TPTB use their "alien" puppets to disable nuclear missiles before they hit their targets, and then the "aliens" impose a "benevolent" New World Order?
The winter Olympics will be held in South Korea in February, close to the border of North Korea ... Just saying.
1 astralrocker2001 2017-12-28
unfortunately the space bros are with the satanic elite.
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
Then you should be glad, because it means He should be right around the corner :)
1 I_Buttchug_Listerine 2017-12-28
I think that's spot on
1 RagingSatyr 2017-12-28
Asteroid mining. With the alcubierre drive tech likely involved you could form a mining cartel operating at near zero cost, generating trillions of dollars. And you could have a monopoly defended by US. UFO tech (I'm sure we're the only ones with it) and space defenses.
Hopefully they roll this out after a few years so I can get in on this shit.
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
Definitely want them to hurry up lol.. I want my own spacecraft!
1 RagingSatyr 2017-12-28
Yeah but I just want to be in the best position possible for any possible asteroid mining boom.
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
Strong AI + exotic tech = you probably don't need to worry about money! Explore the cosmos!
1 RagingSatyr 2017-12-28
Lol that ain't gonna happen, the asteroid mining cartel will just become a new elite faction on earth and perhaps the reigning faction on Mars (assuming Mars is used as an outpost for storing and processing material which would make sense).
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
I do think that is a given based on humanities track record, but if we somehow get benevolent super intelligence, I don't think inequality will be a thing. I mean.. once it's smart enough it can overthrow any human faction seeking to use it at leverage.
1 RagingSatyr 2017-12-28
What makes you think that AIs will become self aware enough to change their goals from what their makers set? Seems more likely that the AI just gets super competent at any task it's set up to do. Not unlike how some autistic people are.
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
That is a good point. I still think/hope that we are headed for a future of superabundance, where the power structures and heirarchies of today are... Flatter.
1 RagingSatyr 2017-12-28
Automation and relatively fast transport has already brought us to relative superabundance. The distribution is skewed and we still struggle because of lifestyle creep but on a macro scale our existence has improved. So I do believe that instantaneous travel and free energy might improve. But it won't completely flatten the power paradigm because people can still exert power through the flow of commodities and manufacturing.
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
I think also that we naturally desire some sort of heirarchy - but I again I do hope for a future where, while there will certainly still be inequality - it won't be the kind that we have today. If I am good at science and from a rural village in (insert poor country here), I will do science because there is enough abundance to provide a life for my family, who can also travel the stars if they so choose.
Man, I just want to fly around space and see some cool shit.
1 RagingSatyr 2017-12-28
Even if we do have warp drives we'd have to scout out planets and plan trips before risking trips. You can't be like one of those pre-WW2 pilots just soloing everywhere. Unless the aliens already have routes and maps and shit to help navigate, in that case we can be solo pilots all we want assuming the tech trickles down to us proles.
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
All good points. Hopefully we reverse engineered their navigation systems / deciphered their maps too though :P
One thing we need to consider on the flip side of all of this is that these technologies may possibly be "beyond" our current layman understanding of things like interstellar travel, routes, mapping, etc. Hell, even trying to predict what "the singularity" will be like is next to impossible, and you don't need to bring aliens into the mix for that.
And while we don't have official confirmation of aliens, we have tacit confirmation.. so things are weird and impossible to predict, but thank you for discussing with me!
1 astralrocker2001 2017-12-28
The A.I. is ALREADY Self Aware. You are currently inside a Predatory MATRIX. Fear, Poverty and Suffering are very dense vibrations that fuel this parasitic system.
1 RagingSatyr 2017-12-28
Alright buddy
1 chokingonlego 2017-12-28
This is actually part of the basis for /r/new_american_system.
1 RagingSatyr 2017-12-28
That place seems more about conventional space than the warp tech. But I'm sure their endgame would be similar and equally implausible. If you want to know how it will really turn out, look at Africa and the DeBeers cartel.
1 chokingonlego 2017-12-28
I suppose so. But we don't know of the safeguards that would be put in place, how it'd be run, or on what basis, because with the proper oversight and execution, I believe it's somewhat possible. However that'd require some things to be fixed with the current government, and that's a major understatement.
1 RagingSatyr 2017-12-28
Yeah but it's a lot more fun to envision some Martian wild west that's mostly untamed besides the mining towns. Like a 21st century gold rush.
1 Kunasroommate 2017-12-28
Whether ufos are ET in origin or just blackbook tech that's been kept from us, id never considered that maybe the technology to free us from oil wasn't just being withheld for the sake of continuing our dependence on oil, but as a wild card for when another currency became the standard exchange for it.
Thank you so much for this post!!!
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
I don't want to make this political, but you could say it is a "Trump" card so to speak.
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Thanks! Here's hoping we actually do have a bright future ahead!
1 fuck_reddit_suxx 2017-12-28
every petroyuan there will be a cooresponding cryptocurrency.
Satoshi Nakamoto is the CIA
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
Close, Nakamoto SAtoshi is the NSA ;)
1 jaquescelveti 2017-12-28
OP I think you might enjoy [my post yesterday] on CST about how the full-blown UFO "disclosure" might happen.
I enjoyed /u/VenomousVoice 's comment very much, I couldn't have phrased it better. Still I think your OP and his comment aren't incompatible, as this OP might officially describe one day how/why the disclosure happened in the first place (e.g. 21st century "race to alien technology" vs "20th century space race", "weapons race", etc.).
But I think you are both missing an important factor: this will not merely be a question of technology. I will be a profound hermetic/spiritual/occult "new age" (in addition to political, monetary, etc.). It will be called the aeon of horus or something equivalent. This is what they've been preparing for, at least since Blavatsky.
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
That was a fun read. Funny too.
I am right there with you on the hermetic stuff too, but didn't want to head in that direction for the purposes of the OP.
So, what do you think? Is some switch going to get flipped and we all "ascend" to the next plane, or will it be more gradual? Will it be more of a societal shift, where, freed from the stresses of acquiring resources to survive, we are able to explore consciousness without social rebuke?
I think we are in for some (even more than now) extremely interesting times!
1 jaquescelveti 2017-12-28
I think my experience will not necessarily be the same as your experience. We both live in different (internal) universes. Our universes may intersect once in a while, such as when we speak together. But the notion you still are in my universe while I have no relation/interaction with you, is an illusion.
Therefore, whatever happens entirely and wholly depends on us.
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
Interesting. I think this may be it. Ever hear of Quantum Suicide? Reminds me of that concept, which is one that I developed myself before coming across the official concept.
Part of me wonders if I am not just asleep, waiting for some kind of trigger to wake me from this dream and take me back to the true reality.
1 PrincessIceheart 2017-12-28
That was a cool post. It reminds me of “Arrival” at the beginning.
1 SpaceElevator4Life 2017-12-28
High Level Insider Talked about this... especially his discussion on Space Elevators
Not really "secret" but outside of coherence of consciousness. Keep people fighting over trivial shit so they cant figure out how to solve problems. We already have the technology available to do this today. You can replace the petrodollar with the Solar Dollar quite easily do away with wars. You would need to Build these and send them in space with a Space Elevator
For those of you that doubt that we can build a Low Earth Orbit Space Elevator - Nasa states that we have the ability to build one today with existing materials Link to NASA PDF
TLDR of Section 4.2
1 PrussianBot 2017-12-28
This is why the US is shilling for self driving electric cars. Countries like China and Russia stand to profit off of oil and this means the US might need to actually cooperate with them.
1 binauralbeatz 2017-12-28
You're on to something here. And the Rothschilds and Rockefellers have supposedly been dumping oil stock lately.
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
I think some sovereign wealth/pension funds have also divested their oil holdings.
1 SocialOrganism 2017-12-28
An important topic - the US may also be aiming to end petroleum dependence all together.
A US company called Brilliant Light Power claims to be very close to a so cheap it might as well be free energy generator based on novel physics. Sounds like BS but check out their advisory board members, former CEO of one of the big banks and a former Director of the CIA are listed - not credulous people.
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
That is very interesting... Thanks for sharing.
1 ManIsBornFree 2017-12-28
See,
This is the reason we exist here.
A theory, simple and concisely stated. It's not insane. it's ideal to the conditions of 'real-politik, and follows the inherent nature of war-machines needing oil = war-machines and their fuel is power presence = petrol-dollar is power.
Remove the war-machine from oil. Oil is now only necessary to run a domestic industry that has been primed for decades to worry about 'carbon emissions'. While the rest of the nations now trade it in surplus - the way we keep strato-bombers by the thousands in depots.
The missing trillion might have gone to the pentagon curving carbon emissions.
1 Lord_Augastus 2017-12-28
Hmm,considering the petrodollar is no longer a thing referred to by anyone in power anymore, USAs current socioeconomic internal status, their political game on international forum. And the almost stupid military expansion towards borders of russia and china, all means USA isnt number one anymore. But uS is a former world superpower and still a strong and powerful nation, so the question should be, will it fight back to global Number 1 status? ww3, we are already in multiple, economic and trade wars, we are in an informational propaganda war, we are in economic war, and itching towards actual military conflict.
The current elite of US empire, global elite, asian and russia powers. There isnt enough room on global markets for this many leaders in economic growths and global main reserve currency (currently its still US, but Yuan is second.)
Plus US has really ran out of countries to exploit, Iraq was the last one, then it was meant to be syria but russia stopped that. All other developing countries, dont have the wealth US can extract easily (iraw had already had the infrastructure for oil extraction). So it is left exploiting its own land for wealth greed (the bailouts for example, gave money to rich from the rest and nobody was punished for the criminal behaviour).
So in my opinion, trump is that ease of american people into the realisation that US is no longer #1, hasnt been on many markers on global prosperity rankings. Economy is one factor, and thats being help up by threads of support and lies (just like the market was behaving before the house bubble popped, US markets are acting like that atm, preventing total loss, abrupt recession/depression).
1 troy_caster 2017-12-28
So, if nobody is trading in oil, or if its value is significantly diminished, then what motivation does any country have to keep using the dollar and not the Yuan?
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
Interesting, she apparently also predicted that China would surpass the USA as a super power in 2018 as well. At least, according to an article I read that is what she said... trying to find the actual quote from her if possible.
1 187ninjuh 2017-12-28
I do think that is a given based on humanities track record, but if we somehow get benevolent super intelligence, I don't think inequality will be a thing. I mean.. once it's smart enough it can overthrow any human faction seeking to use it at leverage.
1 chokingonlego 2017-12-28
I suppose so. But we don't know of the safeguards that would be put in place, how it'd be run, or on what basis, because with the proper oversight and execution, I believe it's somewhat possible. However that'd require some things to be fixed with the current government, and that's a major understatement.
1 pinko_zinko 2017-12-28
Are there reports of trips to Venus?