"Training. SIR!"

Sick conditioning for the masses.

Oh! SHIT! RUNNnnnnnnnn....

Think the Mods need to put the word retarded into the filter?!

Really consider what it would mean if the Boston Bombings were staged...

Our world is so fucked up. There are people willing to go to extreme lengths to fool the masses in order to achieve some goal.

At the press conference? That cut on his throat remark/reaction is priceless!

This is an informative engrossing post you've worked up! Well done!

What was the hoped-for policy outcome of this alleged false flag?

Being russian is also a cherry on top but I dont think the boston marathon bombings were staged. Your conclusion is almost like an aphorism at this point.

You are not looking hard enough. The choreography is plain as day.

Imposition of the police state.

http://fortune.com/2017/04/06/boston-marathon-drones/

What are the policy/societal aims of the police state that it was trying to accomplish, though?

It was to establish in the public mind that law enforcement could lock down your city and search door to door for any reason they determined. A test case, a small sample training to see how it would go and how people would react, so that later, when the time comes, they will know how do it to the entire country.

One was justify anti terror and first responder cash flow. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/emergency-drills-readied-boston-bombings-face-funding-cuts/story?id=19044714

More to it no doubt but this may be why some of them participated in the event. youtube "boston unbombing" You can find more links regarding motive.

Off topic but have you seen this one yet? https://www.bitchute.com/video/AQs8kVeVnfdr/

lol I blocked that dumbass yesterday during the other red pill SH thread. Something seriously wrong with him. He doesn't deserve any of this information.

Kept demanding "evidence" though I never made any claims or shared any info with. I just called bullshit on his claim of reading everything there was on SH. The brigading and strawman smashing in that thread may be more than I have ever seen in one place. It is what got me thinking and reminded me of the Rosin FEMA links. Thanks guys!!

Poor guy, His mind has been raped by something as simple as Pharmaceutical/CDC meme marketing.

Like the eldery with late night infomercials.

Exactly lol.

That and electrolytes...oh wait that's what plants crave. Welcome to the world of idiocrocy.

Classic /r/conspiracy. Downvoting for asking a question

I figured a good part of it was to see what they could get away with.

My question to all this is, how were the first responders and medical personal fooled? Why did medical doctors go on camera and give information about injuries to fake crisis actors? And how was it ensured that not one single hospital employee or first responder has come forward to point out that the actors were faking there injuries?

For example two medical doctors are mentioned in this article. Is the theory that they are so ignorant that they can't tell faked injuries from real? Or are they part of this conspiracy?

What is this?

Fraudsters you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz0vKfBHsZY

his fraudsters doctor obviously played along with her fake injuries

he should be in jail with the rest of them imho

You do realize she went to the hospital days later and the diagnoses were based on her reported neurological symptoms. She was never treated or seen by anyone on the day of the bombing. Anyone can get a friendly doctor through their lawyer, describe the right symptoms and get the desired diagnoses.

re https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6b1cjp/explain/dhjw4lc/ I have no idea what that comment is trying to say, it needs some context.

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/668xn7/after_public_uproar_the_fbi_reluctantly_fake/dgglelj/

You must know (since it took me all of five minutes to figure it out) that there is a very simple explanation for why the incorrect photo may have been shown, correct? Assuming that is the same person, there is a very prosaic explanation that doesn't require a complex fake bombing.

the rest of the shysters decided to throw her under the bus

She was exposed as a fraud and other lawyers, I guess you are claiming (it's easier to follow your argument if you use standard nouns like Personal Injury Lawyers, instead of Shysters, Shysters could mean any number of people or groups. But I think in this context you mean some personal injury lawyers objected to her scam?

What does any of that have to do with a massive fake bombing? She appears to be a two bit con artist with a lawyer who may, if not explicit in on it, conveniently neglected to ask some key questions. This is a common occurrence with any kind of municipal payout. How does this prove anything at all, one way or another about a conspiracy?

right. just like they "accidentally" killed Noah Pozner again in a school in Pakistan?

Your comment wasn't about Noah Pozner, are you agreeing you might be wrong about the woman pictured and you would now like to discuss Noah? Because other wise it sounds like "Oh yeah, well look over here".

context:

A wall of links that aren't really related to each other? I do like the fact that anyone who left the finish area of the marathon is considered to have "foreknowledge". My wife missed me crossing the finish line of my last marathon because she stepped away for a moment, yet no bomb went off go figure. It's almost as if in a large crowd people come and go.

You do know that the part of the marathon the crowd stays for was long over by the time the bombs went off, right? The race clock was over 4 hours at that point, the star runners who people might have crowded to see were back in their hotels having lunch by then. The only people watching would have been mostly people waiting for relatives or friends and would have been coming and going pretty steadily.

would you mind citing other examples of someone faking an injury to get a payout from terrorist attack?

That's not actually what I said, reading closely is not your strong point apparently, or changing the argument perhaps is a tactic of yours? But anyhow here you go

context:

https://i.redd.it/47v1anei8dxy.jpg

let me guess: it was an honest mistake...

...BUT, we can't let an honest mistake keep us from believing everything else the MSM says

Wait you are saying that woman is Noah Spencer? You are making no sense. And when did I suggest "believing" anything from the MSM? And what would be better, if I instead believed your spliced jpegs with one line commentary?

would you mind explaining why the woman in the TUFTS sweater shouldn't be injured, considering she was standing next to the bomb moments before it went off?

Are you really that much of a child? Do you really believe everyone should have been injured to an exactly equal degree. I can think of two reasons off hand. I will list them below, then perhaps you can list how you know anything about the subject of bomb forensics?

• the vessel the explosives was in did not "disinigrate" instead it failed in a way to direct, at least partially the sharpnel more in one direction than another this image seems to fit that idea

• A person or object that was in the way deflected the debris from here.

But I am handicapped by having little experience with explosives, could you please list yours?

after i toy with you on that for a while,

Could you please try to talk like an adult? I am only answering you to be polite, and for my own amusement. If you think you are toying with me you are sorely mistaken.

which also makes you wonder why, if the Tsarnaev's wanted to disrupt the marathon, why they wouldn't have pulled it off sooner, to disrupt the winners and ruin the whole race...

I'm guessing they share your attention to detail and research skills.

...if that was indeed their intention, which i have not actually seen any evidence or heard any explanation as to why that motive is considered credible, believable, or valid

You are arguing with yourself. I have never heard that they wanted to "disrupt the marathon". Is it claimed they said that? Or are you just making up arguments in your head and then winning them?

i think its highly implausible that she would flee the scene, before the bomb went off, unless she had foreknowledge.

Let's see, she had to go to the restroom, her husband just finished the race (actually most like from having been to many marathons, how many have you been to again?).

Why don't you provide some proof of how she had foreknowledge. In fact here is where you can become a star. Use all your research powers, your truth seeking, to find out who she is. Then research why and how she is connected. In other words do some real research instead of proving to the grown ups of the world how smart you are. You have one distinct target, you've had 5 years already. Why are you still providing vague "look at this video or photo" crap and not providing one single tangible piece of real evidence?

People are giving way too much humanitarian credit to the government, it's absolutely possible that they orchestral a scenario with both real deaths and crisis actors to play it up in the media.

Definitely the left. Lol that kid on the right is probably a prop for a planned photo.

I agree with that. But isn't it possible for there to be a real attack and then bring in some prop kids for PR? The shit about the whole thing being faked is stupid, it's definitely a combination of real attack and fake PR photos.

No evidence, it's just what I'd do if I wanted to make a false flag. Plant a real bomb, set up some suspects and set up media and props for PR. Then we have people grieving real deaths on social media while spreading fake PR pics around and not realizing that the whole thing was planned.

That leaves too much chance for leaks. Best to have plausible deniability like with Vegas.

Both of his pants legs are shredded, but he is still walking. Both of her pants knees are torn, but her knees aren't bleeding. How many tourniquets can you count? Were any tourniquets necessary or effective?

I see you know the exact proximity, facing, angle and posture of those involved, and apparently also the exact overpressure involved.

Oh wait, you don't.

Different scenarios, different effects.

Fail.

Next.

And? What's your point here?

An image is neither an explanation nor a point ;) Why is actually using words and assembling logical conclusions so hard for you?

Please assmble a proper point and resubmit.

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracyhub/comments/7mspvt/the_men_above_all_have_one_broken_fibula/

Again, what's your point? You posted a bunch of different images of different people acting differently to different injuries.

clearly the Crisis Actor at the finish line is not in any pain.

You can tell that from the photo? How can you tell that from the photo? How can you tell the extent of 1) her injuries 2) what sort of pain she is experiencing 3) how far into shock she may be, solely from that one photo?

Answer my question.

Oh that's right, you can't

you can see holes in her shirt but no damage to her skin?

Please tell me what and how you can ascertain the extent of damage from this photo

we have more photos showing this fraud in action

I said answer the questions.

You have not.

Please answer my questions.

How can you tell that from the photo? How can you tell the extent of 1) her injuries 2) what sort of pain she is experiencing 3) how far into shock she may be, solely from that one photo?

we have more photos showing this fraud in action

and? your point?

see that hole in her shirt by her elbow? there is no corresponding skin damage anywhere near it

Please tell me what and how you can ascertain the extent of damage from this photo. It's really simple. Just answer my question.

its obvious that she's faking it. just look at her face

How do you know she's faking it?

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracyhub/comments/7mspvt/the_men_above_all_have_one_broken_fibula/

and?

People are giving way too much humanitarian credit to the government, it's absolutely possible

I am giving no credit or blame either way to the government, and it's possible that I am the second coming of Jesus. All sorts of stuff is "possible", if you define "possible" loosely enough.

It's much, much easier to simply blow up actual bombs than to convince hundreds of people to play along with fake ones

lol they just tlk about thats its hard to create such a bomb just with consumer based pyros.

I mean its the pyros association. Their goal is pretty damn clear.

Do you read articles? Or are you so biased that you cant look at stuff objecticely?

They found the shells of RELOADABLE kits there and then the pyros association speculates if it could have been the original consumer based product.

If you now found the official report saying otherwise you got some solid stuff. If not its once again trying to spin your opinion as fact.

my, my. Lets go one point after the other. Do you have any official report saying the opposite of the article you just posted?

yeah man posting the same article isnt evdience nor an official report.

So do you actually have an official report contradicting thins or do you not?

Sure after we deal with our initial point.

Do you have any official report contradicting whst the pyros say?

So there is nothing here that indicates this was a hoax or anything. Just the pyros saying this bomb was probably not made with just consumer based goods.

The guys that know and profit from said products say there is nothing wrong with them. So?

do you have an official report saying that the explosive was in that specific backpack?

I dont know if it was. Thats the point here. Nor do you. You just assume it was the one - because you want to believe it.

If you look at it unbiased this once again isnt evidence, since we have no fucking clue what we are even looking at.

All you got is a pciture that says "FBI" in the bottom left corner - so its an official piece from the FBI? If so where are the information to it?

Why does it say FBI on the bottom left of the picture?

why is it so hard to stay on one topic?

On the picture with the backpack. Why does it say FBI?

Is it a pocture of the FBI? Included in the report? Or did just a random dude put it there?

I have no clue. But since you see it as evidence I thought you would actually know where this isolated picture comes from so one knows where to put it in context.

Expected too much from you.

and again you distract with some random bullshit. Why is it so hard for you to day: I dont know.

Maybe there was no backpack, maybe the backpack was ripped apart, maybe all traces of the backpack are gone.

This is no evidence for anything. If you dint care about sources then this is at best a lead. Which vanishes quite quickly if you think about the fact that someone wrote "FBI" on it without having anything that connects the FBI to it. Like someone just wanted to fool biased people.

For someone who spends so much time with conspiracy theories you sure tend to believe a lot if it fits your narrative.

because I dont care enough about the topic to look into it. You claim something so you bring the evidence. You got no evidence nor does the story seem plausible so the claim is weak as fuck.

Is the earth flat?

Dude if you dont know the source, dont know the credibility and dont know the cause it is not evidence.

However since you didnt answer: Is the earth flat?

When did I not care about sources? However: no I cant because once again I didbt follow it closely at all. However I trust in the judges to do their jobs.

Now you want to claim something different. Cool. Thats what conspiracy theories are about and some of them turn out true. But your level of "evidence" is low as fuck. Its embarassing that you even call that evidence.

About flat earth: I was just curious if you believe every cobspiracy theory.

I totally agree. I'm not saying there is no government agency that would try a fake bombing, but the level of complexity required here would be truly mind boggling. And the idea that not one person would ever speak out is really hard to swallow.

I'm trying to better understand sheep logic

No you are not. You appear to be a child, at least in maturity if not in actual years, who is trying to get the grown ups to argue with you.

These links aren't arguments, and pasting two pictures next to each other with an un-proven declaration is not an argument. But I will tell you why the counter argument I usually hear (an actual attempt at a reasoned argument) is, IMO false.

The argument usually goes "Look at big government secret projects, such as The Manhattan Project or the development of secret aircraft, they involve large numbers of people and no one talked".

And that is a valid point. However the successful programs like that involve things where the workers are working for a shared and un-controversial goal. For instance during WWII support for the war effort was about as close to 100% as you are ever going to find, and among defense workers like those on The Manhattan Project it surely would have been 100%. So there would be no reason for anyone to "talk".

Compare to the Boston Bombings or any other "false flag" terror attack. At least some of the people up close and personal would have been random first responders, medical workers and doctors (a marathon of any size always has an MD on hand). For the bombing to be fake they would have had to keep their mouths shut about a massive lie that they A: Did not want to be part of and B: Is obviously a nefarious plot AGAINST the United States.

Compare and contrast defense workers who willingly go to work to fight a shared enemy with a randomly selected public employee or medical worker. Group A would be expected to keep quite, Group B would not.

The other argument is usually "No one would believe them". There are again problems with that. The mainstream media might not accept their stories as proven. But the stories would be out there. For instance things like COINTELPRO and The Tuskegee syphilis experiment were exposed by whistle blowers. The widespread knowledge of them came after extensive hearings and stories, but they started with whistleblowers speaking out.

The catch to the second counter argument is that it is hard work exposing something like this. Posting jpegs on the internet is not really doing work.

I hope this answers your petulant multi link posting. I honestly think you have some personal issues or perhaps worse and feel somewhat guilty for talking to you this long. I will not reply to you further.

if you could just explain why you assume secrets can't be kept and therefore thats why you know everything, that would be great.

I know I said I wouldn't reply but I just can't resist pointing out, I said the exact opposite. I don't think you know how to read very well.

I did recover my self control and stop reading after the first sentence, so please keep in mind that previous response and any future one will be you talking to yourself.

This is a crap reply full of ad hominem.

Why don't you refute the parts you don't agree with?

I did, and will repeat them all for you here:

This is a crap reply full of ad hominem.

I remember reading they were not allowed to go to the bomb site to assist the victims. From photos you can certainly see that is true. Paramedics were told to stay where they were past the finish line and race volunteers were the ones to assist getting victims to paramedics and ambulances. Perhaps this was intentional to hide fake injuries. I know I found it really odd. Especially considering some paramedics were already stationed right past the finish line to help racers with injury and over exhaustion.

None of the tourniquets used would have worked to stop blood flow from serious injuries as none of them were properly tied or made of the right things to be tied tight enough. One guy, who basically had now lower legs left, left the scene concious, sitting upright in a wheelchair, not bleeding despite not having any flesh below the knee and he only had two visibly loose shoe laces for tourniquets. He really should have been dead. At the very least unconscious or in shock. But according to reports and his account, he staid concious through his ambulance ride where he identified the bombers as the two brothers, saying their description, but not that they left the backpacks or anything substantial. Just that they looked suspicious. In reality, it is him and his survival after such substantial wounds, delay and lack of proper medical attention.

When a bomb goes off you always wait to make sure its the only one before the paramedics go in, as many times the bomber will have secondary explosives to catch those who run in to help.

By reading US Army doctrine and field reports.

Well yeah, makes perfect sense. It isn't like this was some unknown attack vector, and counterterrorism drills like this are common.

I considered that possibility too, but a few paramedics should go in and assist those in real need. Sending in young race volunteers who know nothing about medicine would cost people their lives.

It’s possible that is the reason, but it’s also still very strange they would not run over there regardless in the chaos. If no one was suspecting this to happen, I doubt they would think to not go over there, at least one to asses injuries and direct how volunteers could help.

This alone could maybe be nothing, but when paired with other weird occurrences around the event, it makes it strange.

Here Is a paramedic mentioned by name who claims to have treated victims. Are you saying he was duped by makeup and old injuries or that Walter Dunbar, EMT is part of the cover up?

None of the tourniquets used would have worked to stop blood flow from serious injuries

I have no comment as I have never treated bombing victims, or even been involved in medicine in any way.

He really should have been dead.

You know this how? What is your background that allows you to make that judgement? Also how many times have you heard emergency workers or doctors refer to a recovery or survival as "a miracle"?

Well, a tourniquet needs to at least be wrapped around the injury tightly to work. The only way to see from a distant photo if a tourniquet would work is if the tourniquet is visibly so loose that it can be seen to have gaps or is draping, which is the case from the photos. That is the only reason I mention it. The tourniquets in one photo were so visibly loose, it’s clear they served no function to stop bleeding. I don’t have military medical experience, but a close friend of mine was a medic in Iraq and Afghanistan for 6 years and he had some serious issues with what he saw in the photos from that day, specifically with regards to that guy. He brought up stats on why survival rates of those who lost limbs can be higher for people actively serving in the military vs. when those injuries occur in the general public because many serving military are equipped with easy to use and very effective tourniquets for such occasion and that medic air evac is usually arriving to an injured military person within 8 min in many areas of (either) Iraq or Afghanistan (I cannot right now remember which area he was saying that was for). I have medical training, but am not military.

Severe Injury to the femoral artery (or severing) causes a rapid loss of blood without proper tourniquetting. So much so, a person slips into shock rapidly (a matter of a couple minutes) due to blood loss and can bleed to death in under 10 min. If you have severing off a lower limb, without proper tourniquet method used, and have the person sitting up with the major injury being held below their heart due to posture, that person will rapidly decline and then die. It’s really a matter of minuets.

The guy with both of his legs blown off at the knee was seen barely bleeding, with no tourniquets, sitting up in a wheelchair, never loosing consciousness and continued communication.

Perhaps a miracle occurred that day, but it’s very unlikely for what was shown to have played out to be legitimate.

. I don’t have military medical experience, but a close friend of mine was a medic in Iraq and Afghanistan for 6 years and he had some serious issues with what he saw in the photos from that day, specifically with regards to that guy.

So your source for the story of the century is literally a guy you know who used to be a military medic who saw it on television or photos?

BTW: The absurdity of the above aside, have you ever pondered why a world full of other medics, doctors and nursed did not notice this?

Also have you ever run a major marathon? They are literally crawling with medical personal and various other first responders. There is probably no better place to have a bombing, so far as having immediate treatment available, than the finish line of a marathon.

You really believe that doctors and other medical personnel don’t know how tourniquets work unless they served in the military? Come on now, that’s truly bankrupt logic.

And that was my exact point. The finish line where the bombing occurred had medical personnel working the event within 100 feet of the incident, yet those medics did not go over and assist the injured. At least a few should have gone over and helped asses injuries, and help volunteers addressing those injured. But from the countless photos taken immediately after the bombing, that did not happen. They had volunteers and race attendees assisting, doing a piss poor job of it (which is not the helpers fault, they just did not have medical training).

The medical professionals I know who have seen the photos of these severely injured people find it very suspect, 1, that trained medical professionals were not addressing the injuries, 2, that volunteers were moving some severely injured persons in ways that would actually make their injuries worse, 3, that a few survivors had severe trauma without bleeding that would correspond with that trauma. The issue is that most are exposed to images on the news and are not actively looking up all the other images made available online of the event. Those who have seen the additional images find it suspect, but those who have not seen more than a handful of photos that aren’t provided in a timeline fashion are unable to see the oddities of the event because they simply have not seen exactly what took place.

You really believe that doctors and other medical personnel don’t know how tourniquets work unless they served in the military?

I didn't say that. In fact I asked why out of the hundreds of thousands or millions of medical personal exposed to this story only your friend who used to be a medic noticed the issue.

yet those medics did not go over and assist the injured.

You are saying none of the medical people on scene for the marathon rendered aid? Do you have a source for this claim?

Of course he's not the only one to notice the issue. Here is an article by a trauma surgeon, one of many medical professionals who would attest to the wounds of the Boston hoax being nothing more than moulage:

http://americanfreepress.net/PDF/LorraineDayBostonBombing.pdf

Okay that is one, however I am familiar with her so it does not carry any weight. She is not a believable person. But I will agree that there is one other person who has Md after their name who says hoax.

BTW: Did she create that pdf? It's full of links but someone created it as an image so none of them could be followed.

No, he was not the only one to notice the issue, neither was I the only one to notice the issue with the tourniquets. It’s actually an issue I have discussed with many medical professionals, all of them having an issue with anyone surviving both legs being blown off with no blood loss and no tourniquets, topped with no loss of consciousness, no shock.

In all the footage and back to back photos taken immediately following the bomb explosion, there is no footage showing paramedics going in to help those at the site of the event. There was also news reports that said paramedics were held off and volunteers stepped up to help. Just look up the photos and you will see paramedics made no appearance there, which is why volunteers are shown removing people improperly and in ways that would make injuries worse and/or more deadly.

paramedics were held off

Isn't this common procedure at crime scenes? The police must clear the area before EMTs etc. are ordered in. Under those circumstances I can see bystanders helping. Or are you saying the EMTs were held back, but bystanders were allowed in but they were all fooled?

I have discussed with many medical professionals

Name them. And were they there or did they look at photos later?

both legs being blown off with no blood loss

You can show me evidence of someone loosing both legs with zero blood loss?

Almost all "victims" and the younger brother were brought to a special part of Beth Israel Deaconess medical center. This special wing for lack of a better word was constructed/donated by Israeli's(maybe Israeli government but not sure). It was completed just one year before the bombing and you can find interviews with hospital staff saying they skipped normal triage/ER and were brought directly to this "wing".

you can find interviews with hospital staff saying they skipped normal triage/ER and were brought directly to this "wing".

And that accounts for no one, not one single person on the scene that I am aware of, being fooled? Or was every single one of them in on it? It has to be one or the other.

I have no idea if that image looks real or not, I have never personally seen the victims of a bomb blast up close.

I am not concerned with your beliefs. You can see the choreography clear as day. Boston unbombing does an excellent job pointing it out. Any one can watch the video. I share the video and let folks draw their own conclusions. I don't care what that conclusion is because ultimately truth is a personal journey and even if every single person in Boston knows it was FF it would change nothing. Best regards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beU1lmZQp4c

I can see the choreography clear as day.

Yes, it's easy to see things when you want to.

I share the video

I don't form opinions on things like this from watching television, which is all youtube ultimately is. If there is any real evidence of a false flag I would look at it, but if it hasn't turned up by now I doubt it ever will.

ultimately truth is a personal journey

Either the US government faked the marathon bombing or they didn't, it doesn't matter how many youtube channels I journey through.

Did you not hear me say I don't care? For a person who's username would suggest they don't like others opinion's. You sure seem more than happy to spew yours. Hypocrite.

First thing that comes to mind for the pants is that someone cut/ripped them to make sure there was no major bleeding. I don't believe the official story but its healthy to look at all angles.

Op I like this compilation of information and would like to offer this imgur post with some shared info and new info including an image of tamerlan in custody alive with no visible bruise marks and a picture of his at the morgue that shows numerous bruises. It also mentions and shows pictures of two suspects and an suv believed to belong to Craft Internationals a CIA linked company. A screencap of a post on one of the chans before the bombing happened, images of the suspects with clearly different backpacks (white and gray vs the black one that was found) and a picture showing some spooks carrying the exact black backpack with white tag, there is also a supposed picture showing the principal murdered during sandy hook appearing also as a casualty at the marathon. kudos and keep up the good work

Oh looks like we're moving the goalposts again.

Why is it anytime you get challenged on something you run away with your tail between your legs?

Oh looks like we're moving the goalposts again.

.

Why are you so incapable of actually supporting a point with words and logic?

Probably hanging out

I hang out at work all the time.

what was Richard Serino doing at the Boston Marathon in previous years, according to his FEMA page?

It doesn't say what he was doing.

What it says is his position.

https://i.redd.it/bvjmzl5c2q401.png

That's right, it says his position and history at the time.

and for some inexplicable reason Mr Serino doesn't play the role of incident commander at the mass casualty drill at the boston marathon in 2013?

That particular resume was last updated two weeks before the Marathon in 2013 occurred.

because why?

Because you can't write about positions you may hold in the future.

.what was Richard Serino doing at the Boston Marathon in previous years, according to his FEMA page?

It doesn't say what he was doing. Are you illiterate?

.and according to the Boston Globe, Richard Serino was at the Boston Marathon finish line in 2013 doing what exactly?

It doesn't say, are your illiterate?

.blowing off a regularly scheduled mass casualty drill to pound some beers to celebrate patriots day?

Where does it say this?

Looks like you're building more strawmen to reinforce your paranoia

what was Richard Serino doing at the Boston Marathon in previous years, according to his FEMA page?

It doesn't say.

It says his title.

"Mr Serino has served as an incident commander for over 35 mass casualty incidents and for ALL of Boston's major planned events, including the Boston Marathon"

Thanks, was gonna post that.

Where does it say what he was doing?

so, we can agree that the Boston Globe does not actually specify what Richard Serino was doing at the Boston Marathon finish line in 2013, so therefore the most simple and plausible explanation is that he was doing what he had done in previous years, which is to have a DHS urban shield mass casualty drill

That's right.

where they waste taxpayers dollars training for unrealistic scenarios

Like the one which unfolded? Or has unfolded elsewhere?

I guess there's no reason to have security at public events, lmao.

blowing off a regularly scheduled mass casualty drill to pound some beers to celebrate patriots day?

Evidence?

right here at USAToday:

I'll repeat myself.

Where does it say that?

if you could just refute the central points

Why are you dodging my question?

instead of resorting to childish ad hominem attacks that would be great

Can you quote me where it says this

blowing off a regularly scheduled mass casualty drill to pound some beers to celebrate patriots day?

or where I claimed to be an attorney.

I'll wait.

There is no evidence that there was a drill taking place. In fact, all evidence indicates the contrary. But please refer to my previous comment (and try to keep your comments contained to one chain).

I've answered and debunked all of these already. Why relink me to them?

I already answered this. Until I see evidence that indicates otherwise, there is no reason not to believe he was just a fan of the marathon (which he'd been going to for decades) watching the race with everyone else.

Patriots Day isn't a Federal Holiday, so Richard Serino should have been at work that day,

His office was in Boston, not Washington. And when you're in his position, you take days off when you want to.

and its my position that he was, in fact, at work that day

I know that's your position. Unfortunately, there is no evidence to support your position.

1) the fact that he attended the marathon for decades 2) AND that he was with a group of thousands of people celebrating the marathon

IS evidence that he was there for the marathon.

and didn't know anything about the mass casualty drill that was taking place right under his nose?

You still haven't provided evidence that there was a drill taking place. None of your linked images indicate a drill was taking place.

I'm going to pull a Neil deGrasse Tyson on you.

Tell me what evidence you would require to believe he was just there watching the marathon?

Actually, I have a simple answer to this. I would accept for any of your claims any evidence that supports the claim you are making but cannot be explained by alternative means, and especially by simpler alternative means.

That's the reason you and I are disagreeing. To me, evidence is only evidence if it has one meaning and one meaning only. If two people can disagree about something's meaning, then it's not evidence.

In other words, I would require conclusive evidence.

I'd ask again: name what thing I could show you that would convince you that Richard Serino was just watching the race?

I would also ask: what could I show you that would convince you that there was no training exercise that day?

This would mean that you have to accept that you are wrong in your interpretation of all the other data that is out there. What would it take--what could I show you--that would convince you of that?

Huh?

Which comments did I delete?

Please my friend. May this autism flourish. Beautiful documentation.

Without clicking on those links, could it be injecting ethylated mercury and aluminum into infants?

Thanks so much. More scientific than most of my professors.

autism is the single biggest problem in our world😂😂

holy shit and that coming from you. But I see that autism probably really is a big deal for you personally.

you know just cause someone has autism it doesnt mean that he is paranoid

you dont have to bother to post links all the time. You alrrady proved often enough to me that you dont actually have evidence backing things up you say.

However I got a question for you: is the earth flat?

I do if I think I am having a reasonable discussion. Otherwise, nah not really

I didnt check an of the links because I assume the ones that you posted me are your best pieces. And they are weak as fuck. Why do you call them evidence? Would you consider that evidence if that backpack was burned?

feel free to post your arguments though. Afaik I responded to all of them so far even though not with the reaction you hoped for.

Uff I dont know if I wont lose interest, because the pieces you present may be evidence in your mind who is convinced anyway, but objectively seen they arent evidence.

If you got so much evidence, why not post your strongest one since that will be unrebuttable?

However yeah that guy was there. And he was lucky to get out! Thats great news. Got a source saying he was mass casualty drill incident commander? Atleast if thats of relevance.

so once again you have no source and because you cant say "no" or "I dont know" you gotta distract😂

Look man I already told you that I dont know about the case. I dont even know how the dude is called nor do I know any of the evidence. However if he was spoken guilty then a judge passed that judgement. And I sure as fuck think that judges can do their job. I mean if you dont trust the judges then the whole legal system falls apart and democracy wouldnt work.

So just the simple fact thatthe other guy got convicted and you present your "evidence" on a subreddit instead of a judge shows clearly who meets the legal minimum of "evidence" and who doesnt.

If you wouldnt be biased to hell and back you would atleast know which evidence got him accused snd maybe even convicted.

But you decide to act like this is an obvious one-sided story, you are right, and the rest is sheep. Everyone is retarded. Except you. Because you read more about conspiracy theories.

so, regardless of the mountain of evidence provided in OP, and the short explanations of why each piece of evidence is significant in developing a coherent narrative you prefer to cling to the idea that your self-proclaimed ignorance?

Look man you presented to me two pieces that you deem as "evidence". Questions that directly influence the legitimy of it you do not answer. Instead you distract.

It is just obvious that you already have a narrative in mind and then go look for pieces that fit it and spin it no matter what. You dont care about evidence or the truth. If you had real evidence you could easily go to court.

i spent well over a year examining all of the evidence, regardless if it contradicted other evidence or not. how many defendants get the benefit of a jury taking a year to meticulously examine the evidence?

You checked all that evidence. But never did it arise to you that you infact have no source for the questions that I asked you? Come on man. Dont be ridiculous.

He supposedly plead guilty, which is convenient, because then no evidence has to be presented, which would be very problematic.

Not how it works. You cant make accusations without any serious leads. Either say that the evidence was faked or that he is a fake defendant. You mix all the arguments that come to mind in order to push your narrative. Thats just not how things work.

now i know that this is going to shock you, but the depth and breadth of corruption is so great, that it has infested every branch of government, from the very top to the very bottom.

Then according to you we dont live in a democracy. You are saying the peoples will doesnt matter and they get to do whatever they want - then its simply not a democracy.

However there certainly was evidence presented. That you come to a different conclusion - that it was planted by whoever the fuck I know - is a different story. But there certainly was evidence.

i have studied this particular case far more than you or anyone you know. the evidence is presented in such a way that anyone with a functional brain should be able to follow along.

Then go ahead man. Take your evidence and go to a court. Do you actually believe in your evidence and want to make it public or do you want to sit on a shitty ass forum and get blasted for how paranoid you are?

So you got no argument or answers to the doubt of evidence: distraction with a random link. You are exceptionally bad at presenting your case and convincing people.

nah you dont get to turn shit around. The evidence of the trial case is clear. You might get to another conclusion but it is there and its clear where it was found and such things.

Your pieces dont meet that basic threshhold. Your made up bullshit only is believable if you want to push a narrative that you believe for literally no reasonable reason.

Our societies are run by the most vile people on Earth. Almost everything we were taught in grade school had some thread of bullshit.

You know the work of Dimitri Khalezov, Heinz Pommer, or Simon Shack? I am a Muslim because I know the CIA and Mossad didn't fake 9/11 for money oil or drugs.

Heinz Pommer 3 part series: https://youtu.be/GNxroFgTVMY

Simon Shack https://youtu.be/gORu-68SHpE

Dimitri Khalezov https://youtu.be/cUnjbCxhXh4

Vaporized by subterranean nukes. The water pools in the huge memorials are absorbing the radiation from the bedrock.

"what heat wave could vaporize skyscrapers in 10 seconds... Hmmmmmm"

The Satanic powers that own the West are also currently nuking Muslim countries

https://youtu.be/NX5gxVlY5KI

Ah. Rubella. That makes more sense. The ethylated mercury in flu shots does make me pass out tho.

What's your point? Why do you struggle so hard with connecting ideas?

Not only can you not connect two ideas or actually make a point, but you can't even ignore the imaginary voices in your head.

.i thought you were a professional prosecutor, unless you were lying about that.

Something tells me you're not going to bother trying to quote where apparently I said that either.

there are more than 2 ideas connected in the OP

A bunch of links and images isn't an argument. Try actually making one.

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7mfkaw/sandy_hook_red_pill/drtn88t/ /u/nologicjustpathos

What's your point?

FEMA deputy administrator Richard Serino was the incident commander

Correct.

he should be arrested and convicted for terrorism and treason

for which reason? I imagine I'm not going to get a proper response, just nonsense and spam.

along with everyone else involved, including internet trolls who try to obstruct justice

lel

Richard Serino receives unsolicited job offer from White House

and?

DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano Applauds President Obama's Intent To Nominate Richard Serino As Deputy Administrator of FEMA

and?

/u/EnoughNoLibsSpam has provided vast amounts of evidence in a systematic fashion

You have just thrown half-baked "I think" claims, as if your thoughts are worth anything. You are obviously a dick.

What's your point?

the Boston Marathon Bombing was a mass casualty drill that turned into a false flag and fake news

that's quite the statement.

the point is that no matter how stupid you pretend to be, the public is not buying these fake news stories anymore

funny considering you can't even connect two ideas. I'm not sure you're in any place to speak for other people.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/09/us/politics/09clinton.html

You're Hillary Clinton? wowsers

I'm curious how you come to the conclusion that your comprehension problems are caused by me

Nothing to comprehend. Post an actual argument.

I've provided ample evidence to support my positions

Pictures are not discussion or argument.

no, I'm the person who forced HRC to deploy her attack dogs

BAHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHA

So not only are you arguing against ghosts, completely unable to levy a logical point, but now you're going through delusions of grandeur.

Classic.

so you are admitting that there is no comprehension? why do you keep engaging in this conversation if there is no comprehension?

Nothing to comprehend, as no argument was raised. Please adjust your methodology and resubmit.

I've provided ample evidence to support my positions

Images are not evidence, nor are they points. Please adjust your methodology and resubmit.

there is plenty of discussion and argument presented in text form, to accompany the images.

Actually, pictures are not discussion or argument. Please, put your weighted blanket on, take a deep breath, and assemble a proper argument.

what does the evidence show Richard Serino doing at the Boston Marathon on April 15 2013?

It says he was there for a while, left and came back.

i just want you to know the reasons why your sorry excuse for candidate lost 3 times.

why can't you stay on topic or respond to any queries? Please reformat your argument and resubmit.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1425368

lol

its just a islamophobic conspiracy theory, and i don't even especially like muslims, but this conspiracy theory is obviously based on stereotypes and not on evidence.

Please cite where I made any kind of islamophobic remark or inference.

I'll wait.

what does the evidence show Richard Serino doing at the Boston Marathon on April 15 2013?

He left for and then came back.

no actually, the evidence doesn't show that he left and came back.

Yes, that's what it shows. It says he was there, and then it says he left, and then he came back.

we only know that he was there before and after the bombs went off, (15 minutes before, to be precise) and that he claims to have left.

Right. He was there, left and came back.

in spite of there being countless photos and videos of the people at the event.

Including of the parties involve.

how you do you expect the public to reconcile the fact that the evidence strongly supports the theory of a mass casualty incident, and debunks the islamophobic conspiracy theory that you've been lead to believe?

Please cite where I made any kind of islamophobic remark or inference.

I'll wait.

would you mind describing or producing examples of things that you consider evidence that support the official story?

Why do you keep changing the topic and deflecting everytime you feel threatened?

Please produce a proper argument and resubmit.

if you can't produce this evidence, and we both know you won't, would you mind explaining why a supposedly smart person would continue to believe things for which there is no evidence?

I see you're still deflecting.

Meanwhile, I'll wait for you to answer my various queries and to submit a proper argument for your stance.

the islamophobia is inferred from your obvious bias against muslims,

Please demonstrate this.

Please cite any instances of islamophobia.

You can't, can't you?

as demonstrated by your inability to accept or consider any evidence in their favor

I'm still waiting for you to make an argument. Hint: pictures aren't arguments.

got any actual evidence that he left the scene and came back?

So was either there or wasn't. It's quite simple.

we only know that he was there before

I thought text wasn't evidence?

but that sounds like it might be a lie, considering his reputation

Another assumption on your part. I see nothing to suggest this.

in spite of there being countless photos and videos of the people at the event.

And?

of course, i know what both of those pieces are, and you do not,

literally loling here

which is why you can neither describe or produce them

You have yet to raise an argument. The burden of proof is on you, not me.

so thats why i want you to produce them, so that we can then examine them closely, together

The burden of proof is on you, not me. Why do you keep deflecting? Is your phony platform that flimsy?

i suspect you are doing what is called psychological projection. what that means is that you attribute to me, what you are actually doing yourself.

I'm still waiting for you to answer my queries.

are you ever going to get around to answering the question posed in OP,

No arguments were raised. Are you going to submit a proper argument? Are you going to answer my questions?

Didn't think so.

well done, I guess I could have compiled it the way you did to help navigate the information but really I wanted it to be annexed to op's comment rather than it be its own thread, and really hoped it would spark a discussion, thanks

Source of this actually happening?

The Boston SWAT team that apprehended Dzhokhar said in a CNN interview that his throat appeared to be slashed.

Weird because in this photo, Dzhokhar's throat doesn't appear to be cut, shot, or otherwise injured.

Maybe throat injury happened afterword?

I'm going to commend on you on remembering our previous discussion after all this time. No sarcasm, by the way.

A question about the pictures though...

Is the picture on the left a screenshot from a helicopter shot or something? When was it taken? I'm assuming that it's during the chase when the guy was hiding in the boat, but I want to be sure.

As far as the blood...if the picture on the left is prior to them shooting him/him killing himself/whatever happened, then we wouldn't expect to see blood there.

If that shot on the left is after he died, but before the body has been removed, then the absence of blood may not be an issue either. They could have gotten the blood on the fender as the body was being removed.

As far as our previous conversation. I just took the position that the BMB wasn't inherently a false flag due to the circumstances revolving about the IC designation and whatnot. I've held some suspicions that the two brothers were probably tapped as suspects prematurely, and were likely either not alone, or perhaps not even responsible for bombings themselves. I've always thought the boat-apprehension was sketchy and that something went down there that wasn't released.

But that doesn't have any bearing on the IC designation and it isn't a smoking gun for the bombing itself to be a false flag. The brothers could have been fall guys, they could have had something planned but another group went off first and they got pinned with it instead, etc...

This should be a smoking gun, the pic was out on day one - yet...nothing. I tried to explain it to several ppl irl back then and no one cared either.

Was he at previous marathons? If so what was the reasoning?

If he's been there at all marathons it seems like he wasn't involved in this, must've come from higher up. Weird that they'd lie about it on TV though.

Yeah that's what I was referencing. What the fuck is Patriot's day anyway, literally never heard of that. Most likely they through that one in their to increase patriotic sympathies and spice it up a bit. I doubt a fucking local FEMA deputy admin would be in on this if it was a false flag.

Yes, Richard Serino was at previous marathons acting as incident commander for mass casualty drills, per his FEMA profile page

...sigh

So what?

Why does that matter? I see that information and it strikes me as utterly and completely unimportant. Explain why I'm wrong. Do so using formal logic form if you're able, because I really want to understand your thought process.

https://i.redd.it/bvjmzl5c2q401.png

That means nothing. If you think it means something, you need to very, very clearly explain why.

"Because that's where a terrorist is likely to be"

That does not in anyway indicate anything is suspicious. It indicates the precise opposite.

you will figure out why it matters when you can explain to the rest of us, and support it with evidence, what exactly Richard Serino was doing at the Boston Marathon finish line April 15, 2013

He was doing what everyone else was. Watching the race. Evidence? I don't need evidence. That is by far the simplest, most likely explanation. I don't need evidence to prove he was just watching the race. You need evidence showing that's not true.

ight now the prevailing theory, supported by a confluence of evidence, is that Richard Serino was on the job, being the incident commander for another mass casualty drill, as he had many times previously

There is no evidence he was working. Unless you provide some, he was just watching the race, just like the hundreds of other people who were there watching the race.

the Boston Marathon Bombing was a pre-planned mass casualty drill, done under the DHS urban shield program, and Richard Serino was the incident commander.

There is no evidence of this.

http://archive.is/aYlVi

There is nothing in that that indicates this is a plan for Boston.

so, you think its perfectly logical for Richard Serino to conduct a mass casualty drill at the Boston Marathon in 2011 and 2012, because thats where the terrorists are likely to strike,

I think it's perfectly logical for Serino to conduct a mass casualty drill in a location known to be vulnerable for an attack. Yes.

https://i.redd.it/72qk3ra6cysy.jpg

There is nothing in that picture that indicates that that is an actor.

https://i.redd.it/byv0s0yz06ty.png

There is nothing in this picture that is suspicious.

and yet for some inexplicable reason, Richard Serino didn't conduct a mass casualty drill at the Boston Marathon in 2013, because the terrorists were no longer likely to strike there?

Not having a drill in 2013 does not need an explanation. There is no reason why you would expect one in 2013.

https://i.redd.it/3hlah3y1dc401.png

That image is meaningless. If you think it matters, explain why.

Well, you're reasoning is entirely backward on all of this, but I will save this comment and respond tomorrow. I'm prepping a dnd game now.

That national guard was using NICS to monitor security before the bombs went off, and then when they did go off, they used NICS to coordinate disaster teams.

So what? What is unusual about national guard monitoring security for a huge event?

"Leveraged prior to bombing"

That plate says that the national guard was using NICS to monitor security before the bombs went off, and then once the bombs went off they began to use NICS to coordinate emergency responders. What is unusual about the national guard monitoring security of a large event, or emergency responders using the standard program for inter-agency disaster response?

There is nothing in that that indicates prior knowledge of the bombs.

i hope this puts to rest any doubt that there was a mass casualty drill going on at the boston marathon, just like in previous years

All this says is that he was a fan of the marathon and that he attended it in years before. That is not evidence of anything other than the fact that a native Bostonian is a fan of the Boston Maraton.

I see nothing suspicious in that article. What am I supposed to see?

Fuck it, I'm responding.

no, actually the simplest, most likely explanation is that he was just doing another mass casualty drill, like he had 35 times previously

This is wrong. We are going to go through this logically, step by step.

At this moment, we have one piece of evidence. The director standing at the finishing line.

Based on this picture of him there, and this picture alone, what is the simplest explanation?

The same as the explanation for everyone else. He's there watching the race.

Now. We are going to move forward. The simplest explanation based on the photo of him being there is that he is there watching the race. That means we need evidence to indicate he's not there watching the race until we go beyond that point.

I will now consider your first piece of evidence: https://i.redd.it/bvjmzl5c2q401.png.

Does his job title or previous work experience working as a disaster relief coordinator make it more likely that he is there working?

Let's try a test for someone else:

Bob works as a garbage collector, and Bob is at the finish line. If we were to encounter Bob at that finish line, would it be more likely he's there to pick up trash, or watch the race?

Karine works as a teacher, and is at the finish line. If we were to encounter Karine at that finish line, would it be more likely she's there to teach the kids, or watch the race?

The answer is obvious. We cannot make any inferences whatsoever about a person's presence at the finish line based on their job, and it is most likely regardless of job title that someone at the finish line is watching the race.

It tells us nothing at all. His prior work experience cannot be brought into the discussion, because it doesn't imply or indicate anything at all. Thus, that piece of evidence is discarded.

You mention that Patriot's Day is not a federal holiday. This is irrelevant. He could have easily have taken a day off. We also know he was a fan of the race and attended it very often, even during years when he was a FEMA director and there was no training exercise and before he was a member of FEMA at all.

So, is it likely that he was working that day? No. Based on his history of being at all the marathons in the past, it is likely he just took a day off. That explanation makes more sense, because it explains all the evidence (his history of prior marathon viewings) and not just the 2013 viewing.

So we return to our initial question: based on the fact that it was Patriot Day, is it more likely that he was working or that he was just watching the game like everyone else?

We have established that it being Patriot Day is meaningless and indicates nothing at all. Consequently, it cannot indicate that he is working. Consequently, we are again returned to our first basic premise: he was there watching the race just the same as everyone else around him.

You next imply that it is suspicious that he held two drills in 2011 and 2012, but not 2013. This is not suspicious. It is not indicative of anything. In fact, it does not need an explanation. If you think this needs explanation, you need to explain why. The fact that there was a training exercise in 2011 and 2012 does not logically lead to a reasonable assumption that there will be one in 2013.

Additionally, the logic of that question is circular. To ask "why didn't he hold a training exercise in 2013?" presupposes that there was a reason. It's possible that there was no reason. In fact, "there is no reason" is the most likely explanation for all things that don’t happen. Why isn’t the flashlight shining? Because no one turned it on. Why is the door not open? Because no one is opening it. Why is there no training exercise in 2013? Because no one scheduled one. And note—non-events do not require conscious thought. Do you make a conscious effort not to open a door? No. You make a conscious effort to open one. Do you make a conscious effort to not turn on the flashlight? No. You make a conscious effort to turn it on. Do you make a conscious effort not to schedule a training exercise in 2013? No. You make a conscious effort to schedule one. The most simple explanation for why there was no 2013 training exercise is simply “because no one scheduled one.” And the most likely reason for them not scheduling one is that there was no reason at all. They had no reason to, and so they didn’t.

So, we must ask ourselves yet another question that returns to our root. Based on the schedule of training exercises in the past, is it more likely that the director was working, or more likely he was just watching the race like everyone else? Because the schedule of training exercises does not imply or indicate anything at all, and because we cannot glean anything at all from it, it means nothing. That means that we continue to lack evidence that he was working, and thus we are forced to return to our original explanation: the director was there to watch the race. This means that the schedule of training exercises may be discarded.

Moving on to the amputee picture: that caption doesn't mean anything. I could take a picture of a trauma victim and put any caption on it you like. If you would like, I can take that picture and turn that amputee into Gandalf the wizard. To my eyes, that is a picture of an actual trauma patient that some hoaxer has put a caption on using photo-shop. Unless you can prove otherwise, that picture is nothing. So, it may be discarded.

We must also take this piece of evidence (and here, you will see a weakness in the way you argue) and bring it back to the original question: was the director working or just viewing the race? This leads us to this question: does a picture of an amputee, without a name, place, or timestamp, indicate or provide evidence that the director was working the day of the marathon?

The answer is obviously no. The picture—real or fake (and it is most certainly fake)—does not tell us anything at all about the director. So, it may be discarded.

Regarding this bank thing—I still have no idea what you are talking about. I have seen nothing (and I just looked) about a fake bank robbery being called in (or a real one for that matter). You’ll need to explain it. However, I’ll grant it just so we can ask our principle question:

Does a fake bank robbery being called in on the day of the marathon bombing increase the odds that the director was at the finish-line working, or is it more likely that he as just watching the race like everyone else?

The answer is obvious: a bank robbery of any sort is not going to affect the director in this case, because FEMA does not assist bank robberies or provide relief for them. So, even if this fake bank robbery was real (I need evidence of it), it would not affect whether the director was working. This means that it is most likely, still, that the director was not working and was in fact just watching the race.

The bank robbery may thus be discarded.

so let me get this straight; you expect there to be mass casualty drills in 2011 and 2012, but you don't expect there to be one in 2013? please explain your reasoning. it sounds kinda desperate and ill conceived to me

I have already addressed this point, but will rehash. The occurrence of a drill in 2011 and 2012 does not in anyway indicate that there will be one in 2013. My reasoning is simple: I don’t need to provide an explanation for why there would not be one in 2013, because there is no reason to believe there would be one in the first place.

So again, this is discarded. Consequently, it is most likely that the director was just watching the race.

if you were capable of reading for comprehension, you may have noticed that resources were leveraged…"prior to the bombings"….this clearly indicates that a drill was in fact going on

You should lose the attitude. Trust me. You’re not in a position currently to be acting clever.

SA means situational awareness. NICS is a computer program that LE nationwide use to create a one-stop repository of various data—the idea being to avoid information being lost between chains of command, etc. This plate says that “before the bombings, the national guard was using NICS to monitor safety during the marathon, and after the bombing the national guard used NICS to track and coordinate personnel and resources in response to the bombing.”

So this image is admitting that the national guard was monitoring the marathon using the standard interdepartmental SA software. This does not hint at foreknowledge of a bombing. In fact, the use of NICS to monitor large events and coordinate personnel, etc., is common. It’s literally why they built the program. And so this returns us to our initial question: Does the fact that the national guard was using software to monitor the safety of the Boston marathon make it likely that the director was working, or was he just watching the race like everyone else? Obviously, the national guard using the standard inter-agency program to monitor a large event is perfectly normal, and it gives us no reason to believe anyone was working (besides the national guard).

Because of this, and because the plate does not have any evidence indicating prior knowledge of a bombing, it may be discarded.

And thus we arrive at the end. Every single piece of evidence has been demonstrated to not have any relation to the director, and none of it provides any hint of a reason that we might use to say he was working. Because there is no such evidence, the only reasonable conclusion we are left with is the base conclusion: that he was just there watching the race, just like thousands of other people, and just like he had done for years and years before.

Unless a serious attempt is made to explain why any of this evidence is relevant, I am permanently disqualifying it as “evidence,” because I have explained in detail here why none of it is evidence of anything.

/u/EnoughNoLibsSpam literally spent 15 hours trolling on reddit in one go, she needs serious help and probably medication. Probably best to just report them to the admins for spreading misinformation and harassment of users.

Even if you take away all of the events and inconsistencies of the day, the Tsarnaev CIA connection is PLENTY. Even if the FBI hadn't traveled to Florida to murder one of their friends and possible loose end. Graham Fuller provided the patsies, his own friggin nephews by marriage.

What's just completely absurd in the present context, amidst the Russia Hysteria, is that the CIA is only in that region of the world in the first place to provoke Russia. Talk about "election meddling".. The US has some major, major karmic payback coming down the pipeline.

Boston bombing was a ff , just don’t use the world red pill.

I see you continue to utterly fail at bringing forth and argument.

Are you capable of putting forth an argument? Doesn't look like you are.

Richard Serino has long history of being incident commander at mass casualty incidents, and specifically at the Boston Marathon

Okay, and?

Richard Serino was placed at the Boston Marathon finish line before and after the bombs went off

and?

they had already planned a mass casualty drill which include the use of backpacks filled with explosives

so they planned for a common type of attack? and?

we know resources were deployed to the Boston Marathon prior to the bombing

security resources were deployed to one of the largest meetings of its type and one of the most famous in North America? so? Did you expect them just to toss a few "Happy Fun Race Day Everyone" and be done with it?

what was Richard Serino doing at the Boston Marathon finish line April 15, 2013 if not a mass casualty drill?

Richard Serino was at the finish line? That's news to me.

He did arrive afterwards. What is it with all these people doing their? jobsPeople doing what they're supposed to??? No way.

yeah its highlighted here so you don't even have to read the whole article

Right, so he was at work and then he left.

Again, what is your point? Why is making anything that resembles a point so difficult for you?

im glad we can agree that Richard Serino was working at the Boston Marathon finish line, and not "celebrating" as the USAtoday article would have us believe.

Right, so he was in the area and then returned? Still, no point.

i suppose the point is that FEMA deputy administrator Richard Serino was the incident commander of the Boston Marathon bombing mass casualty drill, which was subsequently put on TV as "fake news"

Huh?

Please try making a sentence that makes sense and resubmit.

perhaps you are mentally retarded?

Oh, I see you actually have yet to make a single point. Not even one. Not even one that can be agreed or refuted.

how about you start at the top of this post and lets work out way down together, so that way you can fully understand this false flag fake news story

Why don't you 1) respond to questions asked 2) make a proper argument? Why is making a proper point so difficult for you? Have you been tested for learning deficiencies?

NSFL? Yikes!

Eye Bleach!

I am a robit.

do you have any actual evidence that Richard Serino left and returned,

You already posted an article saying this is what he did.

Either the article is correct and he did leave and return

or

He didn't and just putted around a very famous event for a while.

What's your point?

i suppose the point is that FEMA deputy administrator Richard Serino was the incident commander of the Boston Marathon bombing mass casualty drill, which was subsequently put on TV as "fake news"

Huh? You already posted this nonsense. Stay focused.

what part don't you understand? the part about the mass casualty drill being put on TV as if it was a real terrorist attack?

Which part are you talking about? The known and very common training exercise, or the bomb that went off and injured a bunch of people?

Try and stay focused.

theres a whole lot of points being made in the OP.

Please learn to stay on topic

the facts presented in OP are very clear, for anyone with more than half a brain

Why do you continually fail to address questions or make actual points?

FEMA Deputy Administrator Richard Serino has long history of being incident commander at mass casualty incidents, and specifically at the Boston Marathon

and?

According to USATODAY, FEMA Deputy Administrator Richard Serino was in Boston "celebrating" Patriot's Day when the bombs exploded,

and?

but according to the Boston Globe, Richard Serino was at the Boston Marathon finish line watching also-rans finish

and?

Richard Serino receives unsolicited job offer from White House

And?

Whew That's four paragraphs where you've failed to make a point. Why is this so hard for you?

DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano Applauds President Obama's Intent To Nominate Richard Serino As Deputy Administrator of FEMA

and?

James Baker former ACSO officer now president of Cytel Group organizes Urban Shield events across US and world

and?

Boston Urban Shield 2011 - An amputee plays the part of victim

and?

fake bank robbery, reported as if it was real

And?

Wow, you just keep making it worse for yourself. What is that, three, four more paragraphs where you haven't made a point?

Please, assemble your thoughts and resubmit.

AUTHORITIES: Suspect stole officers gun, shot officer at MIT, then Fled...Officer Collier had a locking holster, its like a three-way lock. There was apparently an attempt to yank it and they couldn't get it and left

https://i.redd.it/4jrkyccde6ty.png

Headline Says: Marathon bombing suspect in custody, 2nd at large. Headline should say: 1 marathon bombing suspect dead, 1 suspect in custody, 1 suspect at large

https://i.redd.it/6v4dskbxansy.jpg

According to the co-director of MIT's Graduate Program in Science Writing, the 'naked man' is not either of the Tsarnaev brothers... A naked man was in police custody, in handcuffs, and later a pic of a naked body purportedly of Tamerlan was later leaked online

https://i.redd.it/ds9m72wi8nty.png

http://twitter.com/sethmnookin/status/325853110759219200

Maret Tsarnaeva the aunt of Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev the suspected Boston marathon bombers has revealed to me that she can positively identify the oldest nephew Tamerlan Tsarnaev as the man who was stripped naked and placed into a police cruiser during the manhunt for the suspects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0-C6Z0YEGM

[NSFW] [NSFL] This photo is supposedly of a dead Tamerlan Tsarnaev. Tamerlan supposedly had just been in a gun fight with police. How many bullet holes do you see? Zoom in on his neck and you can see the brushstrokes where the "blood" was applied

https://i.redd.it/4vi812r54nty.jpg

Here's a picture of the boat that the Boston Marathon Bombing suspect was hiding in. Notice that there is no hatch in the boat cover

https://i.redd.it/aqoptv5m88ty.jpg

Here is the boat the Boston Marathon Bombing suspect was hiding in. Note that the boat cover is stretched tight around the boat, and that there is no blood on the trailer fender

https://i.redd.it/pn35xpx712ty.jpg

Heres another angle on the boat that Boston Marathon bombing suspect was hiding in. Note the fact that there is no blood on the fender or anywhere else

https://i.redd.it/sps4erov32ty.jpg

Bottom pic: How did the suspect get inside the boat? The boat has a shrink wrap cover on it, with a square hatch in it. Theres a step ladder below the hatch. Upper pics: Infrared of heat from chimney, window, and boat. They heated the boat for him

https://i.redd.it/35duyoe5v1ty.png

Before and after blood was planted on the boat fender of the boat the Boston Marathon Bombing suspect was hiding in

https://i.redd.it/92xlaupx72ty.png

Do Shrink Wrap Boat Covers Actually Exist Or Not?

https://i.redd.it/mgoidrp676ty.png

google image search for shrink wrap boat cover

The Boston SWAT team that apprehended Dzhokhar said in a CNN interview that his throat appeared to be slashed.

https://youtu.be/l6K9m8xPC8k?t=1m6s

Weird because in this photo, Dzhokhar's throat doesn't appear to be cut, shot, or otherwise injured.

https://s-i.huffpost.com/gen/2725742/images/o-TSARNAEV-BOAT-facebook.jpg

Boston EMS Boston Public Health

FBI

Boston Globe

FEMA

Boston Globe

USA Today

Daily Mail

Boston Urban Shield

Boston Globe

Mass State Police

DHS

WPTV

WFXT

DHS

the track coach who divulged that there was heightened security and officials telling everyone that there would be drills and there's nothing to worry about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVFuyf2iUHE

fake lawyer judy clarke magically shows up to defend him in court, just look at her client list to see a who's who of fake villains.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Clarke

the so called Pay Czar, Kenneth Feinberg. everything he is involved in is sketchy af

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Feinberg

1 fraud) http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/maine-woman-arrested-boston-marathon-fraud-charges-article-1.2077613

2 fraud) http://wwlp.com/2015/03/27/boston-woman-charged-with-marathon-injury-fraud/

That's some nice spam there, can you actually make a point? (It sure looks like you can't)

Take a deep breath hun, really focus.

the point is that FEMA deputy administrator Richard Serino was the incident commander of the Boston Marathon bombing mass casualty drill, which was subsequently put on TV as "fake news"

What's your point?

why is this nonsense to you? are you fully vaccinated?

Because it's both 1) unintelligible gibberish 2) has no logic

why do you fail to examine the evidence, and instead pretend like it doesn't exist? its all pretty self explanatory.

Pictures are just pictures.

Please establish an argument and make a point. Hint, an image is neither an explanation nor a point ;) Why is actually using words and assembling logical conclusions so hard for you?

your rebuttals amount to "and"

That's correct- there's nothing to rebut to. No point was raised. I'm waiting for you to actually establish an argument or some kind of point.

your questions have been answered here:

that would be were you dodged the questions asked of you and continually failed to make a point.

Try again.

if you have any more questions about the evidence, please form them into a coherent sentence as a reply to this comment,

I asked you to make a point or an argument, you've yet to do so. Hint, an image is neither an explanation nor a point ;) Why is actually using words and assembling logical conclusions so hard for you?

instead of making vague references to questions you haven't actually asked, and don't really want answered

Please answer the questions asked of you, assemble your arguments and resubmit. Images are not arguments.

the point is that FEMA deputy administrator Richard Serino was the incident commander of the Boston Marathon bombing mass casualty drill, which was subsequently put on TV as "fake news"

Good, you've already posted this. It's not an argument. What's your point?

the point is, a person must be an idiot to believe that the boston marathon bombing was an actual terrorist attack, when clearly it was a mass casualty drill

Failure: no evidence to support your fantasy.

Next.

let see: its perfectly normal and expected for there to be mass casualty drills in 2011 and 2012

Correct.

but totally unexpected and unlikely for there to be a mass casualty drill in 2013?

Who is making this claim?

please explain your logic, because it doesn't sound very logical to me

I see you've just invented a strawman to argue. Typical.

right, so by that logic theres no actual evidence placing either of the Tsarnaev's at the Boston Marathon finish line, huh?

Goalposts moved. Questions dodged.

How convenient.

your insincere questions have been answered here:

that would be were you dodged the questions asked of you and continually failed to make a point.

Try again.

Still no point in two dozen replies. Gosh astroturfing shouldn't be this hard.

please try to form a more intelligent rebuttal than "and

That wasn't a rebuttal.

or "whats your point".

Still no point or actual argument put forth huh? I'll wait.

those questions tend to make you seem mentally deficient and don't add value to the thread

Keep dodging. It's clear you can't actually back yourself up but rely on copypasta and spam. Why is making a proper argument so hard for you?

the point is that FEMA deputy administrator Richard Serino was the incident commander of the Boston Marathon bombing mass casualty drill, which was subsequently put on TV as "fake news"

You keep stating this, yet it 1) contains no actual point and 2) is nonsense.

why do you keep asking the point, when the point has already been provided to you?

Please resubmit when you've made a point.

the point is, a person must be an idiot to believe that the boston marathon bombing was an actual terrorist attack, when clearly it was a mass casualty drill

Fail. Nice work dodging the topic at hand. Why are you so scared?

except you know, the evidence:

Please assemble an actual point.

let see: its perfectly normal and expected for there to be mass casualty drills in 2011 and 2012

Correct.

but totally unexpected and unlikely for there to be a mass casualty drill in 2013?

Who is making this claim?

you are indirectly making this claim,

Show me where I made this claim.

by pretending that Richard Serino was NOT doing a mass casualty drill in 2013

Richard Serino is not the only person capable of running such drills.

When did I "pretend Richard Serino was NOT doing a mass casualty drill in 2013"?

please explain your logic, because it doesn't sound very logical to me

Please cite where I made such a claim.

if you could just show us, based on the evidence provided, what Richard Serino was doing at the Boston Marathon in 2011, 2012, and 2013 that would be great.

Nice, more dodging the question. Richard Serinos whereabouts in those years isn't relevant. Try dodging more.

the argument is pretty clear:

Just stating something does not an argument make.

Boston Marathon Bombing was a mass casualty drill,

And yet no arguments or points made, how embarassing.

and FEMA deputy administrator Richard Serino was the incident commander

and?

unfortunately your half ass rebuttal will amount to

Asking for you to actually make a point isn't a rebuttal, since there's nothing presented to rebut.

Try making an actual argument.

because you couldn't figure out the point,

An image is neither an explanation nor a point ;)

which was just proved in plain english and properly cited with credible sources?

An image is neither an explanation nor a point ;)

the point is that FEMA deputy administrator Richard Serino was the incident commander of the Boston Marathon

Yes, and? What's your point.

My middle name is Frank.

See how that doesn't matter?

Please learn to make a point.

you don't think the point has sufficiently been made that:

You haven't yet made any points. You keep tucking tail like a coward every time you're asked.

Make a point coward.

Hint, an image is neither an explanation nor a point ;)

FEMA deputy administrator Richard Serino was the incident commander of the Boston Marathon bombing mass casualty drill, which was subsequently put on TV as "real news" when in fact it was "fake news" false flag terror hoax?

You logic is incorrect. You have yet to, again, post a single piece of evidence indicating anything about false flags or hoaxes.

Yes, the person in question held that title.

What's your point?

Please attempt to make a point.

why do you keep asking the point, when the point has already been provided to you?

you have made a (false) statement. This is not a point nor an argument. My middle name is Frank.

so your low effort rebuttal to every point that has been made amounts to either

This is not a rebuttal, as you have provided no argument to rebut to.

Please make one.

almost as if you aren't capable of critical thinking or forming a coherent, evidence-based rebuttal

and yet, still no point.

I'll wait.

the point is, a person must be an idiot to believe that the boston marathon bombing was an actual terrorist attack, when clearly it was a mass casualty drill

Okay, is this your point?

Let's go with that.

Well it's not a very good point as you've

1) failed to demonstrate the may in which to measure how or why "someone is an idiot". What metrics are you using? How did you verify this?

2) It bases itself on the assumption that the deaths were fake, which you've also failed to do.

3) This statement itself has nothing to do with Mr Serino.

So if that is your point, it's not a very good one. But hey, at least you tried :)

I'm beginning to think that you are lying when you say you are a prosecutor, unless you can provide credible evidence to support that claim

Please quote where I said anything as such.

Just like last time you made this claim against me, and failed to produce results.

Go ahead, quote me on that.

why do you continue to dodge the topic at hand and play stupid as if the evidence doesn't show what really happened at the BMB? its all right there for thousands of people to see,

A bunch of low effort images, unrelated links isn't an argument, a platform or a point.

Try to make a point.

http://archive.is/aYlVi

This isn't a point.

Please, try again.

you are indirectly making this claim,

Please,. quote me where I made this claim. You've already failed, twice today, at reproducing results indicating I somehow claimed to be a (prosecutor?). I bet you'll fail miserably at this too.

Go ahead, focus. Put your weighted blanket on, put your little autist brain to work and quote for me when I said this.

by pretending that Richard Serino was NOT doing a mass casualty drill in 2013

Still waiting.

Get to work.

Quote where I said this.

so your unsubstantiated and baseless conspiracy theory is that someone else was the incident commander for the 2013 DHS urban shield mass casualty drill at the boston marathon?

Still waiting. Show me, a link is fine, where I said this.

citation: https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7mqgeu/boston_marathon_bombing_red_pill/drwblz0/

Oh look, finally, an answer.

But it's the wrong one :(

Where did I say anything like what you're saying?

I'll wait.

how is it dodging the question? its literally the same question posed in the OP?

Answer my question please.

what exactly was Richard Serino doing at the Boston Marathon finish line April 15, 2013 if not a mass casualty drill?

No idea. Hanging out. Celebrating. Doing his job. Enjoying the festivities. You know.... Normies like us can do a job and have a good time at the same time. We're actually capable of such things. Neither of the posted articles you linked described what he was doing.

you are not the arbiter of what is and what is not relevant

Of course I am.

Someone has to be, as you've been unable to do so.

If you feeling making a point, you're welcome to.

Richard Serino has a well established pattern of running mass casualty drills at the boston marathon finish line prior to 2013, and there is no reason to assume that this well established pattern wouldn't have continued into 2013

Right, and?

you've never actually won a single court case, have you?

Correct. I've never been anywhere near a courtroom. Strange that you'd think otherwise. Did you take your meds today? Are you hearing voices?

i imagine the judge and/or jury get tired of listening to

You're right, and the judge would have you thrown out for wasting their time.

They actually require things like: substantive arguments, evidence based reasoning and logical points to be made.

Walking up to the bench and tossing down a bunch of small printed out images and then walking away muttering "it's obvious, it's all there" would have you removed for contempt.

Boston Marathon Bombing was a mass casualty drill

Just stating something does not an argument make. Try harder champ.

except for these

An image is neither an explanation nor a point. Please take a moment to assemble your argument and resubmit.

and FEMA deputy administrator Richard Serino was the incident commander

And? What's your point?

Please try making a proper argument. My name is Frank

because you couldn't figure out the point,

No point was raised, so there's nothing to rebut.

which was just proved in plain english and properly cited with credible sources?

Nothing was proved, as images are neither explanation nor a point. Please assemble your argument and resubmit.

thats not a rebuttal

It's not a rebuttal as no argument was put forth. It is a statement.

when I'm done on this thread, and it gets cold, I'm going to start linking to it from other places online

So no argument or point yet?

Why is this so hard for you?

are you ever going to get around to addressing the evidence in the OP?

The one you didn't post any kid of point for? You're welcome to assemble a proper argument and resubmit.

do you think its odd that there is more evidence that FEMA deputy administrator Richard Serino was at the crime scene, than there is evidence for the Tsarnaev's being at the crime scene?

1) False statement

2) If the statement were true, it wouldn't be odd either, as one wouldn't make any attempts to hide

Double bad logic.

please provide all of the evidence you can, to support the claim that the Tsarnaev's were at the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013

You made the claim actually, and you've failed to support it. That's on you.

why wouldn't it be odd? its unprecedented, actually.

Someone being at a public event is odd?

I mean sure, for basement dwellers like you maybe.

can you cite another example of a time when a mass casualty drill using backpacks filled with explosives was planned, but somehow "real" terrorists hijacked the training exercise and set off real bombs killing real people, before the exercise could take place?

Boston, 2013.

please cite specific examples which would support the position that its common for mass casualty drills to be hijacked by terrorists.

Who said it was "common". Please cite where I said that.

I'll wait.

would you mind explaining with your presumaby-superior logic,

1) insufficient evidence to support your conclusion (which you formed conclusion first, rather than conclusion last)

2) demonstrated lack of common knowledge that people leave their homes and go to public events sometimes.

double bad logic.

please provide all of the evidence you can, to support the claim that the Tsarnaev's were at the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013

What is it with you and continually dodging the question? Every time you get rekt you try to weasel away. Please try to stay on topic.

il take that as an admission that the evidence of the Tsarnaev's is so sketchy that it actually debunks the official story, which is why you refuse to present it for public scrutiny

You made a statement and have yet to back it up. That's on you to justify your hypothesis, not me.

why wouldn't it be odd? its unprecedented, actually.

What's unprecedented? A public figure attending a public event?

No its odd for Richard Serino to do mass casualty drills in 2011 and 2012, but then inexplicably skip the mass casualty drill in 2013,

Please cite where this was stated to be the case.

I'll wait.

You can't make something up to argue against.

please cite specific examples which would support the position that its common for mass casualty drills to be hijacked by terrorists.

I'm still waiting for you to cite where I said it was common.

Still waiting.

its kind of absurd to imagine that i somehow concocted this entire scenario in my mind

It isn't, as you continually prove to be unable to put together logical thoughts or follow up on inquiry. Making things up to argue against is what you do. See above (x2)

you, on the other hand, have this wild-eyed, islamophobic conspiracy

Please cite any instances of islamophobia.

i could show you the evidence that the Tsarnaev's were at the Boston Marathon

lol

so what was Richard Serino doing at the Boston Marathon in 2011 and 2012?

I have no idea.

https://i.redd.it/bvjmzl5c2q401.png

That's his job title yes. And?

No its odd for Richard Serino to do mass casualty drills in 2011 and 2012, but then inexplicably skip the mass casualty drill in 2013

You know he was skipping the "drill"?

If he were, why would it be odd?

its all laid out in the OP.

No arguments were presented. Please make a proper argument and resubmit.

you can't remember what you read or saw long enough to relate it to the next thing you read or see? how did you ever advance in math class? can you even read a book without forgetting what it was about before you get to the end of it? are you even capable of assembling ikea furniture?

Still won't answer my questions or make a proper argument.

so you think that i somehow made up the Boston Globe, USAToday article,

Which said?

and Richard Serino's FEMA profile pages?

Oh right, the one that hasn't been updated since weeks before the Boston Marathon in 2013 even occurred.

L

O

L

you, on the other hand, have this wild-eyed, islamophobic conspiracy

Please cite any instances of islamophobia.

I'll wait.

so what was Richard Serino doing at the Boston Marathon in 2011 and 2012?

No idea.

did you even read his FEMA page where it says he's been incident commander for mass casualty drills at the Boston Marathon, coupled with the Boston Globe article which placed Richard Serino at the scene in 2013, as well as previous years?

That's right.

That's his job title.

So now, what was Richard Serino doing at the Boston Marathon in 2011 and 2012?

you probably aren't familiar with incident commanders, if you haven't trained for these kinds of things

So now, what was Richard Serino doing at the Boston Marathon in 2011 and 2012?

an incident commander can be anyone, of any rank, who just happens to be the first on the scene and assumes control of the situation.

That would be his job title, yes.

"incident commander" is not a job title per se,

That would be his job title, yes. It's a little more descriptive than his official title.

I will respond tomorrow. I'm prepping a dnd game atm.

1. This doesn't matter. There is nothing relevant in that picture.
2. This doesn't matter. There is nothing relevant in that picture.
3. There is nothing unusual about the national guard monitoring security for a large event. This doesn't matter. There is nothing relevant in that picture.

I explained this already.

That plate says that the national guard was monitoring the event's security with NICS before the bombs went off, and when the bombs went off they used NICS to coordinate emergency responders.

There is nothing there that indicates foreknowledge of an attack.

leveraged... prior to the bombings" indicates that there was a mass casualty drill going on

No, it doesn't. It means that they were using NICS to monitor security. That's literally what it says.

MA National Guard leveraged NICS for SA prior to bombings

Direction translation:

Massachusetts National Guard used NICS for security prior to bombings

The only thing it says is that they were using NICS to monitor security. That says nothing about a drill. NICS is used in all cases where LE from different agencies are working together. If you have a hit and run that crosses city or county lines, the local PDs, county sheriffs, and state troopers will use NICS to coordinate their search.

just like in previous years

He was a fan of the marathon. He was going to it every year before he even worked at FEMA. So what?

The thing that really got me with this event was the guy who identified the brothers. He had his lower legs torn to shreds, shin bones sticking out, ashen from blood loss yet was not actively bleeding. He had loose shoelaces for tourniquets, so loose they visibly were not capable of stopping bleeding in the least. He laid on the pavement for too long to stay concious from his wounds and yet was eventually wheeled out of there with his legs below his heart sitting in a wheelchair, fully concious. He was wheeled out by race volunteers, like every other victim, because they did not let paramedics (many were there at the finish line to take care of runners who might need assistance at the end of the race, a standard precautionary measure) in to help the victims. This does not make any sense, whatsoever.

That guy later told paramedics in the ambulance taking him to the hospital that he knew who did the bombing, that it was the two ethnic looking men in the crowd, that they looked suspicious. He never saw them leave anything or actively do anything unusual, just that it was them because they looked suspicious.

Also, the younger brother’s white backpack showed up in a photo on the cover of a major news paper (I can’t currently remember which one, but I suspect it was The NY Times. It’s been a long while since I looked at this topic and I currently don’t have access to my saved links). The photo was of their FBI ransacked house. The news paper reported that the brothers lived in squalor, and showed a massive pile of possessions in the middle of the room, but that was due to the FBI ransacking the house for clues. Right in the middle of the pile, very clearly can be seen is his white backpack. Never mind that the backpacks that blew up we’re both entirely black. The only possible explanation would be that he had another black backpack with a pressure cooker inside it all inside his white backpack, but it was a jansport and those things don’t hold much at all, let alone another maxed out to full capacity backpack.

There is WAY too much weird shit with this event. WAY TOO MUCH to be normal.

Also, within a couple hours after the event (I saw this first hand shortly after they were uploaded that day) a guy who worked in a building just above the finish line was photographing with a high resolution camera out his window of the finish line captured a ton of images of the bombing as it happened and uploaded them all to Flickr. He basically just held the shutter down and captured every second. You can see from those images that a lot did not add up. Right after the bomb went off a man comes running from well outside the bomb area in completely comically tattered clothing with no visible injuries or blood, he jumps through exactly where the blast occurred (seen by the marks on the pavement) past a completely unharmed young girl who was only a few feet from the blast, and then runs right out of frame.

So much can be seen and yet most Americans missed all of it.

Digesting this post now but damn, nice work!

The second guy with the shredded pants.

I saw a YouTube video of someone on the second floor laid thier iPad on a window facing down.

The bomb goes off and everyone runs by. That guy walzes up. His pants are fine. He goes to a fire truck and an older white fireman in black kneels down and shreds his pants up with a blade!! The guy then runs back to the bombing area and is photographed with the oddly blown away pants.

Has anyone else seen this video? I would swear it's a smoking gun but it didn't get around, didn't get any attention. It blew my mind. I wonder if my YouTube history goes that far back?

This is one towering skyscraper of a thread submission.

My personal favorite is the series of photos of the lady walking up to the bomb scene from about 100 yards away. She is carrying a bag and holding a sheet around her legs with no apparent injuries. Someone (director?) holds up a hand to her like stop you are late. She walks around him and lays on the ground.

I live outside of Boston and to this day if you even question the official narrative to friends and coworkers, or if you suggest that it was strange that nobody got to see the trial or pictures or video or anything else after the incident, you are met with anger and hostility.

People around here are completely brainwashed about the bombing. They just want to see the guy dead whether innocent or not. TPTB said he did it so he did it.

Lifted this from the FLIR image :

https://www.google.com/maps/place/42%C2%B022'00.4%22N+71%C2%B010'26.2%22W/@42.3665425,-71.1741887,69m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d42.3667833!4d-71.17395

Take a look at the boat lol

this guy is onto something

Two things on that. First you can see the wrapped boat and what most likely looks like a hole in it. This would be significant if we can have the date on that image.

Second, either flir gps is off or that picture was fabricated. The angle on the flir should be the exact mirror based on gps.

Notice that there is no hatch in the boat cover

So from that tiny picture you can apparently ascertain that apparently there is "no hatch in the cover". Some serious l33t CSI photo skills you got there.

Here is the boat the Boston Marathon Bombing suspect was hiding in. Note that the boat cover is stretched tight around the boat, and that there is no blood on the trailer fender

Yes, this is after police had responded to the call.

Heres another angle on the boat that Boston Marathon bombing suspect was hiding in. Note the fact that there is no blood on the fender or anywhere else

What sort of blood marks are you expecting to see from that photo?

Bottom pic: How did the suspect get inside the boat?

Looks like there's a flap right on it. There's a ladder leading right up to it. I imagine he used that.

The boat has a shrink wrap cover on it, with a square hatch in it.

Yeah, he probably went through that hatch.

Upper pics: Infrared of heat from chimney, window, and boat. They heated the boat for him

How did you ascertain that from this picture? The white hot only shows the compartment he's in.

Your body warms things up.

Before and after blood was planted on the boat fender of the boat the Boston Marathon Bombing suspect was hiding in

You'll notice that not only is the wheel well obscured, but the left pic is taken before the subject is apprehended.

Do Shrink Wrap Boat Covers Actually Exist Or Not?

Shrink wrapped?

I have no idea, looks like the boat has some kind of cover on it, which is common for boats.

So, just gonna ignore everything and dismiss the response with something that absurd.

Paint, lol. K.

Any proof?

blood obviously planted on boat trailer fender after the fact

You can tell it's planted?

Interesting. Where did you acquire these amazing photo analysis skills? Sign me up.

that is the proof.

Oh the proof being a picture taken before he was apprehended and a picture taken afterwards?

. you can clearly see that there is no blood on the fender in the first pic,

That's right.

and blood on the fender in the second pic

As he was bloody and climbed out on that very fender. Spooooky.

es, you can tell its planted, because it wasn't there before

Almost like it wasn't there before.

And then it was after the suspect bled on it.

how did the blood get there if not from the suspect, who has already been ruled out?

You haven't ruled him out.

Please try harder.

the blood is planted.

Evidence?

because the owner of the boat said that he noticed blood on the boat

Did he say he noticed on the wheel well?

No?

Didn't think so.

Fail.

now, if the boat owner was telling the truth, there would have been blood visible on the boat in all photos,

Are the helicopter shots taken from the same perspective as the home owner?

No?

Didn't think so.

Fail x2.

Great post. All I had to see was the security camera pictures of the dude with no legs who magically grew a huge bone out of his knee after the bomb went off, and never passed out from any pain despite apparently massive blood loss and double amputation.

This did it for me too. How was he not bleeding out upright in a wheelchair?

Nice going, you broke reddit...

It was back at the beginning of the new que.

How is this on "New"?

It just appeared on "New" but it's days old. Weird.

No man, thank you! Great posts!

Awesome post, Boston bombings was defiantly a false flag/hoax in my opinion.

I read r/conspiracy every day but didn't see your post 9 days ago, i guess i could have missed it, sometime i sort on new post maybe it was then i saw it strange.

I hang out at work all the time.

.what was Richard Serino doing at the Boston Marathon in previous years, according to his FEMA page?

It doesn't say what he was doing. Are you illiterate?

.and according to the Boston Globe, Richard Serino was at the Boston Marathon finish line in 2013 doing what exactly?

It doesn't say, are your illiterate?

.blowing off a regularly scheduled mass casualty drill to pound some beers to celebrate patriots day?

Where does it say this?

Looks like you're building more strawmen to reinforce your paranoia

Huh?