Herpes virus
4 2017-12-30 by lucr3hulk91
This is a kind of wildcard post. It just some relevance to this sub, since often I see medical conspiracies discussed here particularly with regards to engineered viruses and hidden cures.
So, genital herpes sufferer since this year. It has broken me - and I was already broken and at rock bottom before this happened. I had an alt on the herpes subreddit but the mods are so vicious and spiteful that I find it intolerable to go back there, even just to ask an innocuous question or plea for support.
Back to the conspiracy side of things. There are many fad-like YouTube vids claiming that the herpes virus can be cured with a raw food diet, combining consumption (orally and topically) of oregano oil. Much of this stems from a Caribbean witch doctor called Dr Sebi late last century, who apparently was able to cure sicknesses. Maybe he did or maybe he didn't. He's dead now.
This oregano oil 'cure' seems like another nonsense fad, and the actors in the videos promoting it look insincere and like they're doing it for the money (they sell their own oregano oils that are the 'most pure').
If anyone does have some further insight on herpes or experience, please speak up. I want 2018 to be the year I cure my PPD, depression and herpes and start living life again on my own terms.
39 comments
1 4-7-2-3-9-8-5BREATHE 2017-12-30
There is no cure for the herpes virus.
YouTube videos prescribing oregano are nonsense.
Anti virals and topical creams can manage the virus but flare ups cannot be prevented.
Happy new year.
1 lucr3hulk91 2017-12-30
You seem quite passionate with your point of view don't you.
1 4-7-2-3-9-8-5BREATHE 2017-12-30
When it comes to things like viruses, there isn't room for opinion.
Oregano oil applied to herpes virus will have no measurable, repeatable effect.
1 Putin_loves_cats 2017-12-30
I'll just leave this here. If the human body is affected by it, nature has a cure for it. It's just a matter of whether it has been discovered or not. The Creator(s) created us, and created everything we need to heal us, here... If it's synthesized in a lab, and patented, you probably shouldn't take it, imo. Also, rubbing poison ivy on your genitals is not going to do much. Witch doctors, looking at you....
1 lucr3hulk91 2017-12-30
If you know something then please say it. Speak plainly.
1 Putin_loves_cats 2017-12-30
I'm not sure how more frank I can be, dude...
1 lucr3hulk91 2017-12-30
Of course it would have been discovered. But it's a tightly guarded secret known only to the elite.
Over decades, centuries even, the elite have in one way or another been in positions where they were liable to catch the herpes virus. The pedo and rapist ones for a start. You think THEY of all people would just grin and bear it? No, there would be cures on hand for them. Just like everything else.
1 gameslave2 2017-12-30
I can get on board with that train of thought. There are still plenty of undiscovered plants that may help humanity with disease. Another thing though is lots of plants have also gone extinct. Some of those may have held cures to modern day ailments. Maybe.
1 Putin_loves_cats 2017-12-30
Makes you think why "we" are so obsessed with "space". We have explored maybe ~25% of Earth... Hmm...
1 gameslave2 2017-12-30
Word! There is still tons of work to be done here. A place that truly affects us.
A lot of space exploration seems like a major distraction. Moving on to step 2 when step one is still half-assed.
1 irishbastard3000 2017-12-30
Damn that sucks! Find a girl that also has the herps. Y'all can break out together. I'm sorry dude. I'm a dick. No cure for being a dick either I guess!
1 RecoveringGrace 2017-12-30
You aren't going to find a single "cure", but staying healthy, mind, body and soul- with the addition of natural immune boosters- will likely ward off outbreaks.
1 lucr3hulk91 2017-12-30
I'm trying to go on a raw vegan diet but it is so hard.
1 gameslave2 2017-12-30
That's terrible for your health, imo.
Check out the Joe Rogan Experience #1058 w/ Nina Teicholz. Gives some insight as to why the vegan route may not be your best option.
1 lucr3hulk91 2017-12-30
Joe Rogan is an entertainer. Need I say more?
1 gameslave2 2017-12-30
Yeah, in a way... but many of his guests aren't. To just write his podcast off like that is irresponsible.
1 limesqueezeme13 2017-12-30
Cut out all sugar starve the virus .
1 wile_e_chicken 2017-12-30
This is working for me FWIW -- raw fruitarian, to be more specific.
1 guenonsbitch 2017-12-30
My advice is to ease into it. I’ve been vegan for almost two years, began for health reasons, morphed into spiritual / ethical. I tried raw for a couple weeks about a year in, found it pretty challenging. Now I’ve been listening to my body and eliminating things that cause irritation / inflammation, like gluten and beans. I eat about 50% raw and have not been sick now for 6 months. This feels like a miracle because for several years I was sick pretty much a week a month.
There are tons of people who’ve cured cancer, reversed diabetes and heart disease, and stopped other severe chronic illnesses through a well-planned Plant-based diet. Glad you aren’t listening to other commenter who wrote about Joe Rogan ep. Not only can it be very healthy for your body, it is liberating for your mind.
1 Evaire11 2017-12-30
I have been vegan now for 2 years now and raw vegan is my goal. I am transitioning into that diet. Having said that, in my experience I wouldn't jump into being a raw vegan, otherwise it will be a shock to your lifestyle which will cause you to cheat and then you will beat yourself up for cheating which will cause you to give up entirely. If you are a meat eater now, I would just transition to vegetarian, vegan then raw vegan. Best of luck to you.
1 Friendlysaint1278 2017-12-30
Cure
How to reverse the positive test result.
First, the fine work of Dr. Arnold Ehret predates Dr. Sebi’s. Dr Ehret’s books on fasting and diet are well worth reading before attempting any protocol.
The emphasis of diet and healing techniques of the 2 Dr.’s is similar. Except that Dr. Sebi didn’t really emphasize the Raw diet from what I recall and Sebi’s work is vague. Ehrets work is dated but more detailed and Sebi is not a real doctor.
Originally I tested positive for hsv-2 twice consecutively(significant?) then after some therapy I tested equivocal twice consecutively. However I couldn’t get the negative result that I wanted and I think I know why. The heavy metal were present.
The Sebi protocol is vague and needs to be interpreted. (Ehrets answers many of the unanswered fasting & diet questions in his book.)
Sebi says:
The 1st step: is to detoxify the body by fasting. This would involve removing: A) metals & toxins B)bacteria C)fungus D)viruses
Dealing with one ailment at a time.
How long do we fast for? It depends on the state of toxicity. First before fasting chelation therapy might be needed. Fasting won’t pass metals. Dr. Ehrets says and I agree that when detoxing metals you need the help of a doctor. I 100% agree for safety reasons (kidney health) and I’m not a fan of most doctors.
The 2nd step: Practice fasting or a series of fasts: Ehrets goes into great detail about fasting in his books.
3rd step Fungus remover. I found a sodium thiosulphate detox and dr. Jennifer Gardner’s Candida cleaner protocol by using medical grade turpentine to be effective.
4th step: Long fast & anti-virals Drink tea 5 times a day or order the Sebi products. I don’t think all of them are necessary and I suspect are a bit of a ploy but the Iron plus makes sense.
5th step Raw food Mucous-less diet Sebi says to avoid: Avocado (fats?) Chic peas (legumes/beans?) Quinoa (grains?) Sugars (fruit?)
So I interpret it this way. Avoid fatty foods (nuts & seeds & oils), grains, legumes, fruits and obviosly protein rich foods lol.
So this leaves us with mostly specific raw greens. He says eat lots of salads like chips, Mushrooms, and squash. But eating raw squash sounds weird or cooking it might slow the healing process.
Right now I’ve been on a health seeking mission for sometime dealing with a very high amounts of metal toxins. When it’s gone I will move on to step 2 and onward until I get the test result that I want. Really I don’t want to rely on too many other people for answers and I like to figure out things by trying out different methods. So I’m sure that I will be attacked for having a less mainstream point of view. We all have different beliefs and I try to respect this.
*** a few last things. Before you decide to try a curing protocol I would suggest checking your IODINE LEVELS first. A simple skin test. Get your levels up by MEGA DOSING if need be. This will help the body detox process. Not only that it removes THALLIUM from the body. So it’s necessary. Switching to a RAW FOOD DIET from the start is tough but will speed up the detox process and provide additional nutritional benefit. For safety reasons if you do a long fast be sure to research how to break the fast properly. I hope this info might be useful****
1 oldMiseryGuts 2017-12-30
Not a herpes sufferer here, but i can offer a little insight about the mechanism.
Im sure you know that once you have it it lives on inside of you forever.
The reason outbreaks occur is when the body is run down it panics “oh no this body is going to die, i better get to the surface so i can be passed on to another host”.
So really your best defence is staying as fit and healthy as you can. This includes trying to stay positive because depression can really effect your immunity. I know way easier said than done.
I cant comment on the oregano oil but a raw diet sounds like a really good start. I hope that helps, good luck
1 swordofdamocles42 2017-12-30
herpes is easily curable. there are many many people who have got rid of it but if you think dr sebi is a witch doctor you will have no chance.
1 lucr3hulk91 2017-12-30
Since when is witch doctor an insult? I just use the term for any healer who isn't mainstream medicine.
1 swordofdamocles42 2017-12-30
you know your dis-ease, is a probably a manifestation or your horrible personality. that needs working on too lol the law of attraction and all that jazz.
1 lucr3hulk91 2017-12-30
/u/CelineHagbard
1 lucr3hulk91 2017-12-30
Oh wait...it's you again. Don't bother mate.
1 ManIsBornFree 2017-12-30
You have to understand the nature of a virus, bacterium and a fungus.
In the killing microbes game, you use fungus to kill bacteria, bacteria to kill bacteria, and viruses to kill bacteria. You use dead virus to create resistance to viral loads, and immune-support to create a hyper responsive immune system.
For fungus, you take deprive them of nutriants (candida), take a steroidal application, and apply a cream that disrupts reproductive cycles or is 'anti-fungal' (oregano).
So, where are you?
You have been exposed to a sub-dermal virus that can not currently be 'cured', but can be in remission enough to not be infectious; although, anti-body markers will show you have HSV(I/II).
In that, you have the only necessary option of never compromising your immune system. Second, there exists a complete lack of options for HSV 'cures', but treatments options are pharmaceutical, and theoretically, they'll use sound and phage to kill HSV infections.
Here is a bit of relevancy: The HSV infection is very common, even among developed nations. In the time of 16-18th century (16-18,000 H.E), It was as common as most chlamydia infections would be now.
In-fact, a bacterial infection like Chlamydia or syphilitic infection, would be disastrous. As opposed to an itch everyone got from fucking betwixt a whore's legs. HSV is stigmatized because of its inability to be cured - yet, it is no more dangerous than HPV (which can be deadly in some cases).
The only case in which HSV can be deadly is if the bacterium travels to the brain. This can cause severe memory issues, but the chances of this type of infection are VERY slim. People write psychological case-studies on the double-dissociation results.
IN other words, friend.
Don't spread your infection. Yet, consider the condition not of the same as a mass looking from a position within the box. Look at the condition from the position of a being in time, with a particular place to think from. This position elucidates how harmless your infection can be, and how easy you have it, compared to the guy who got syphilis in 1784 C.E. (17,84 H.E.)
Antibitotics are fungus, mostly.
phage are bacteria killing virus.
1 Dippy_Egg 2017-12-30
My sister has had good results limiting her intake of arginine (amino acid) by avoiding foods that contain it like nuts and seeds, and using oral l-lysine preemptively. She tried the oil of oregano thing and said it had no effect.
I'm mentioning because if you're loading up on nuts and seeds going the vegan route, you may be inadvertently exacerbating the problem.
Hope you find some physical and mental peace.
1 thoughtfulguy 2017-12-30
I suggest looking into chlorine dioxide. You'll find various testimonials on YouTube when you search " MMS testimonials. "
1 skywalker2828 2017-12-30
Well this is your fault u should have used protection. There is no excuses. It's a pretty avoidable disease
1 lucr3hulk91 2017-12-30
Do you want your throat slit?
1 toastystoner 2017-12-30
I get cold sores. Started eating a whole food plant based diet and I haven't gotten one outbreak the past year. Not only that symptoms of depression have lifted. Animal products, oils, excess fast and refined products really fuck with the human body. If you're having trouble with raw try doing whole food plant based.