Im glad that cnbc exposed this,maybe this will be the begining of something. I hope the people that killed the kids die in hell and all the people involved become expose and have a slowly death.

The nanny did it. The mother walked in on her, and she began stabbing herself with the knife she used.

Happens all the time.

Of course, the whole thing is sheer coincidence

Heh. If it it were my kids the nanny would have “stabbed themselves in the throat” about 34 times.

The nanny did it. The mother walked in on her, and she began stabbing herself with the knife she used.

Source? The news reports say the mother didn't walk in until after all 3 were laying there bleeding out

The Manhattan nanny charged with killing two tiny siblings she was supposed to be protecting begged to be put out of her “misery” as she recovered in the hospital from slicing her own throat with a kitchen knife, a cop testified Thursday. Yoselyn Ortega, 55, repeated regrets about fatally stabbing little Lulu, 6, and Leo Krim, 2, in October 2012 before trying to kill herself in the family’s Upper West Side apartment, where she regularly cared for them, according to NYPD Officer Delilah Solis. Marina Krim, the mother Lulu and Leo arrived home to the horrifying scene of her dead children in their W. 75th St. apartment, with Ortega in the process of slicing her own throat with a kitchen knife. Krim and another daughter had been out at a swim class when her oldest and youngest children were killed.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/yoselyn-ortega-wanted-put-misery-article-1.3342696

This happened in 2012, so I wouldn't hold my breath on anything happening 6 years later. :(

Yeah it's been 6 years nothings going to happen.

Sad but trueeee

Hope we're wrong. It's up to people like us to not let it go.

Wow so sad

$43 trillion money laundering?

The gross world product was less than $100 trillion back then.

Exactly

it would be $43 Trillion over a period of time, probably a couple decades. Not all at once.

Or the story is fake.

So are saying that you don’t believe that half of the worlds money could have been accumulated over decades, with no one ever saying a thing. You somehow doubt that audit findings, and unexplained revenue amounts, across the entire globe were hidden by millions of people?

Jeez, next you’re going to tell me that this is only clickbait.

Not half the world's money. Half the world's gdp for a year divided over decades. So that in itself doesn't fail the sniff test.

It's not fake. Like the OP says, CNBC ran an entire vetted segment on it and the guy who did it had his kids killed by the nanny who couldn't give a motive or explain why she did it. It's some crazy stuff, but it's not fake. That's just willful ignorance.

Do you know the time frame

I don't... like others have said, the story was 'scrubbed', probably after the guys kids got stabbed.

Which is why this is fake.

It wasn't even the next day though. They had them murdered that same night the article aired. I don't know why this is never brought up around here, it's a clear sign of "no concrete evidence, but common sense says connect the dots"

A good way to show the average person an example of a legit conspiracy. Most people I show this to are absolutely shocked.

Anybody can connect the dots but who, in the media, is going to connect the dots? They don't want their children killed too. Trust me, the whole media knows Israel runs the world and everything but they also know it is literally suicide to expose the truth so they shut up and do their job.

Plus the employees of the media are on the same team by design anyway...hence the CNN management meme..

No one in media is going to connect the dots when they know there families can be brutally murdered.

Well except for that CNBC executive who family was already brutally murdered who still works in the media and has a revenge motive.

I doubt he has much revenge left. After your kids get brutally murdered, a person probably falls into the abyss, psychologically speaking. Perhaps decades from now, a spark of acceptance may light that dark place, but I doubt it.

Israel runs the world

This is like saying, "louie's pizzaria runs the block".

No, friend. Certain countries are just front-organizations for large shadow-governments operating like organized crime. Israel is an Anglo-American/ashki-russian front. 'NK' is a Russian/Chinese front. Palestine is a Arab/Iranian front. Hezbollah an Iranian front. ISIS a Saudi/Israeli/Turkish front - using US capital.

Fronts serve as funnels for the world power projections. They are not 'in control' of anything more than those that own the majority capital that supports such entities. The 'brains' can do little without the 'lungs'

Solid and to the point. Well said.

Oh, you don't want to know what Louie's Pizzeria is running. Don't ask. Don't tell!

Riiight. Who do you think the richest person in the world is? No really. Google it. Bill Gates? Hahahahahah.

Israel runs the world

We need to inform the UN immediately!!

You mean the same UN that has issued over 77 resolutions for Israel's human rights abuses, and Israel has openly ignored for 70 years? The UN was created by Rockefeller and is powerless against Israel for some reason.

A couple of posts above this, someone wrote how sone countrys are shadow fronts for others. The UN is in that list of fronts as well.

Connect the goddamned the dots!.

it is not isreal

Oy vey!!! Stop being anti-semitic you bigot! Remember 6 million!

Shut the fuck up and go back to 4chan

They had them murdered that same night the article aired.

No "article" ever "aired". The only thing that CNBC did was to post this press release from Spire Law Group on its web site. Here's a screenshot that somebody captured in 2012.

As part of an automated process, CNBC and other web sites ran the press release; for example, here on Dow Jones' Market Watch.

Nor was this the first press release. Back in April 2012, they ran this one which also was posted on marketwatch.com and yahoo.com, among others.

The lawsuit was initially filed in NY state court. It was then removed to Federal court in NY. The judge there denied class status and dismissed all the cases except for the first named plaintiff, Deborah Abeel, which he ordered transferred to the United States District Court for the Central District of California. (Source—PDF ) That case was withdrawn a couple of weeks later.

This case was designed to bilk the plaintiffs. Spire Law group got thousands of dollars from each of its clients without any reasonable chance of ever winning any award. Here's a blog post from April 2012 from someone who thought their earlier lawsuit (in state court) was great until she contacted them: "It seems they want $10,000 to $18,000 from anyone who wants to join the suit."

Back in 2012, a redditor collected some information here: http://pastehtml.com/view/cgi2dqpym.html

This lawsuit was started by Mitchell J. Stein, who is now disbarred and in prison. The California Attorney General took action against Stein and 3 other attorneys for scamming clients in September 2011, almost a year before the CNBC nanny murder. Mitchell J. Stein was convicted in 2013 on unrelated fraud charges and sentenced to 17 years in prison.

The children's alleged killer —the family's nanny— is still awaiting trial. There is no evidence that anyone else was involved in the deaths.

You wrote:

it's a clear sign of "no concrete evidence, but common sense says connect the dots"

Hmmm, let's see what "dots" there are.

1. A law firm files frivolous lawsuits to get fees from homeowners.
2. After that law firm is disbarred by the California attorney general, another law firm takes up the suit.
3. To get publicity and attract more homeowners and steal more money from them, the law firm issues a press release, and months later, another press release.
4. Many web sites publish the press releases.
5. About 3½ hours after the second one is published, a nanny kills the children of a CNBC executive.

You're going to have to make up some incredible "dots" to connect point 5 to the others. Let's try.

• Somebody (Person X) is annoyed that the lawsuit is publicized—even though it is so frivolous it is dismissed within weeks and the attorney general of California has already declared it fraudulent.
• Person X picks one of the web sites where the press release ran. Why this web site?
• Person X picks one of the executives at the company that runs the web site. Why this executive?
• Person X finds the residence of the executive, kills the children or convinces the nanny to kill the children, then convinces the nanny to attempt suicide in front of the children's mother. How? Why? What did it accomplish?

All of this within 3½ hours! Seriously?

• Later, the nanny confesses multiple times to the crimes and never mentions any other person being present. Why?

Are those the dots you were thinking of?

Excellent work. This should be the top post

Could it perhaps be that gilded comment was from someone who is obligated to protect the powerful people implicated?

They killed this dudes kids over this story. You don't think they'll try to bury it on Internet forums?

They have he resources to do this. I say keep pushing this into the public sphere.

This comment might be from them too, take risk while reading. User might be compromised already, spreading false flags.

Dude.

There are rabbit holes, and there are super rabbit holes.

If you keep digging without analyzing what you’ve dug, how do you know that there even was a rabbit and it wasn’t your shovel the entire time?

Could it just be that you guys have to turn EVERYTHING into a natshit insane conspiracy theory?

Folks like this are the reason Seth Rich's family can't get any peace. Or the reason the father of a child killed at Sandy Hook still gets calls from dipshits calling him a paid crisis actor whose son never even existed.

This is truly sickening.

And this right here is why people shouldn't just read the titles of things and think "oooooo that sounds spooky." So much is assumed around here just by saying "hey this person we don't like knew this person that died. Definitely had something to do with it." Turns out life isn't a movie and bad shit happens all the time. Sometimes it's connected. Most of the time it's not.

Oh yeah because a gilded comment with over 800 upvotes on a sub like this isn't suspicious at all.

What are they trying to cover up here?

Uhhhh, given the comment responded to has shy of 600 at the moment... that's well within reason

Why don't you tell us? Because that comment you find so suspicious lays out a pretty convincing case that this "story" is bs, probably concocted to pull in ad revenue from the same type of people who paid the Spire Law Group thousands to push the ridiculous $43 trillion lawsuit.

The real conspiracy is always in the comments

lol you guys are absolutely nuts

Is everything that doesnt fit into your neat little idea of reality "suspicious"?

Aaaand there it is. I can't believe The Daily Sheeple of all publications would leave out information pertinent to the case.

I can't believe The Daily Sheeple of all publications would leave out information pertinent to the case.

As if you could even find an "article" among all those ads ... :-(

Great job of critically thinking.

Yep.. while strange what transpired, and while many of us use the term “banksters” (pretty fitting and cool term I might add), ANY serious law firm or law suit using the word banksters and or trillions of dollars, should either be instantly dismissed as a joke or scam, or at least looked at with strong skepticism. Random law firms don’t take on the “banksters” for their fiat money scam lol

Later, the nanny confesses multiple times to the crimes and never mentions any other person being present. Why?

A nanny accused of stabbing two children under her care in a Manhattan apartment confessed to the murders as she lay in a hospital bed on Halloween in 2012. Unable to speak because she was on a ventilator, she pointed at a chart to indicate yes and no to questions from investigators, a former assistant district attorney testified at a pretrial hearing on Tuesday.

“She admitted that she had killed the kids and that she had used at least two knives,” the former Manhattan prosecutor, Gregory B. LeDonne, said. “She indicated she was mad at the mom.”

A defense lawyer, Valerie Van Leer-Greenberg, has asked Justice Gregory Carro to throw out several statements made to the authorities by the nanny, Yoselyn Ortega, arguing that prosecutors ignored messages from a defense lawyer hired by her family that she not be interviewed without him present. Ms. Van Leer-Greenberg has also asserted Ms. Ortega was too sick and too impaired by drugs to waive her right to a lawyer, much less to answer questions truthfully.

The update is that the nanny lived and maintains her innocence.

So the system locked her up, declared her insane, pumped her so full of drugs that she couldn't speak. Then claims the nanny admitted to the crime by pointing in the direction of a written response.

Nanny is wheeled in on a bed with a ventilator.

Prosecutors say she stabbed the children to death in a bathtub while their mother, Marina Krim, was out picking up her third child from a swimming lesson.

The mother opened the bathroom door on the grisly scene of her children in the bathtub, prosecutors say. Ms. Ortega then plunged a knife into her own neck, they say.

Ms. Van Leer-Greenberg has signaled her intention to mount an insanity defense, and her client has been examined by forensic psychiatrists for each side. If the statements are thrown out on constitutional grounds, it would make it more difficult to prove that Ms. Ortega had a rational motive in killing the children.

Don’t leave the truth out. She’s trying to argue insanity and no rational motive. The mother is a witness to the murders and self inflicted stabbing.

"She then plunged a knife into her own neck".

Because that's what you'd do if you were trying to kill yourself in a murder suicide. It's the little details that give most people pause when they actually look into this. Of course there's a consistent version of events that doesn't involve clandestine hit men sent from shadowy kings of thieves in retribution for exposing them, but that version is interesting as well, and not entirely baseless.

Are you saying it’s uncommon for people to cut/stab their own neck?

No I'm saying it's uncommon for a person to stab their own neck. You added the "cut/" part to make it seem outrageous and therefore easier to deal with.

No man I wasn’t trying to make what you said look outrageous. I was just trying to clarify. In my experience self stabbing or cutting isn’t that far out of the norm. But, that’s anecdotal. I don’t know what the statistical breakdown would be, but I wouldn’t say that act makes this suspicious. It is something people do. I’ve seen the aftermath of it many times. (Also, I think cutting your own neck is more outrageous than stabbing. Imagine the will it takes to do that)

You keep lumping cutting and stabbing together to make it seem like I said that it was unusual for people to cut themselves.

Well, I’d say it’s more unusual for someone to commit suicide by cutting their neck. That’s the distinction I see. I alluded to it in my last comment

What is the difference to you?

Also, I don’t think it’s good foundation for a conspiracy. This seems like a very likely injury to me considering the situation. I should say it, though, I’m basing that statement off my experience. It is anecdotal.

The difference between cutting and stabbing? I think they're as different as cutting and stabbing. Your anecdotal evidence for why she would stab herself in the throat is because you've seen people who cut. I can't tell if you're being serious.

I think you might want to take a second and read what I’ve written again. It will be good for you to practice your reading comprehension.

In my experience self stabbing or cutting isn’t that far out of the norm.

So you meant that you know a lot of people who've stabbed themselves and are comparing them to the group of people who cut? Or... suggesting that they're in the same category? Or... that of all the people who've mutilated themselves, most stab themselves?

reading comprehension

Ugh anyone who says this to anyone.

I wouldn’t say I know these people. It’s the work I do. Also, did you just miss this entire comment?

And, do you really think they don’t fit in a category (self inflicted neck wound by sharp tool)? Sure, there is a distinction but they’re in a broader category. Also, you never answered my question. What is the difference to you? Also, how does that difference relate to my broader point? And, in case you don’t know what the broader point is. Like I said before, it is that the injury sustained is not unusual considering the circumstance and not indicative of a conspiracy.

I don't think that self-harm ala cutting and stabbing yourself in the neck are anything alike. I think this whole exchange has been ridiculous.

Wait, you mean cutting like the kids with black hair who scratch their arms. I meant the term more literally. Like cutting/slitting. Cutting your neck to commit suicide. And, in my experience, it is not unusual for people to attempt suicide this way. To stab themselves in the neck, or slice/cut it open. Who cares, it’s interchangeable to me. The point is that lady stabbing herself in the neck does not, to me, indicate a conspiracy. People do that. They stab themselves in the neck.

To stab themselves in the neck, or slice/cut it open. Who cares, it’s interchangeable to me for this point.

Ridiculous.

Why tho?

seriously, explain yourself. Why is it ridiculous?

It's ridiculous that you think that stabbing and cutting are literally, by your own words, interchangeable. It's ridiculous how you've been weirdly forcing the comparison between them in an attempt to downplay the argument you are pretending to deal with. It's ridiculous how you pick and choose little snippets to reply to, but never the spirit of the comment, just little angles that you think you can use. It's ridiculous that we're having this conversation when the original point that I made was that a person is unlikely to stab themselves in the neck to kill themselves. This is all ridiculous.

The point I have made over and over, and I’m glad you finally touched on it, is that people are not unlikely to stab themselves in the neck to kill them self. They do exactly that. I know this because of my experiences in the work I do. I have seen it. Or, I have seen the aftermath of it.

Also, a stab is a type of cut.

And, also, it is very fresh that you accuse me of picking and choosing. I’m not the one obfuscating by choosing to highlight semantics here.

And, and also, if we’re going to get stuck on semantics now (which I assume you will). What is your definition of cutting?

This will be nice to read your reply when you completely ignore the first paragraph.

a stab is a type of cut

No, a stab is a stab and a cut is a cut. There are names for the different types of wounds they cause. This is why I say you're ridiculous.

This will be nice to read your reply when you completely ignore the first paragraph

Lol

person writes in statements that change the course of an argument and mentions them in an offhand way that requires tacit agreement

other person doesn't allow it; keeps drawing attention to weaseling

"You're just ignoring me! :(((("

The point I have made over and over, and I’m glad you finally touched on it, is that people are not unlikely to stab themselves in the neck to kill them self. They do exactly that. I know this because of my experiences in the work I do. I have seen it. Or, I have seen the aftermath of it.

Why do you keep ignoring this?

Because I work in the department above yours and we see way way more cases where a person will slit their wrists is they choose a knife to kill themselves, and we, in the department above yours, only see 1 stabbing per 100 neck cuts, and that's even if we get people who've slit their throat at all, so my anecdotes, which override statistics of course because naturally, are better than your anecdotes, and we won't ever even have to go into those dry, boring statistics at all.

1 stabbing per 100 neck cuts, and that's even if we get people who've slit their throat at all

What?? You are going to have to explain that one, champ. I mean, the whole thing. It doesn’t make sense. It is nonsensical.

Because I work in the department above yours and we see way way more cases where a person will slit their wrists is they choose a knife to kill themselves

Grammar aside, what is this imaginary department? And, is the chosen method (that you see in your department lol) to cut their wrists when found by a Mother after killing her children? Is it entirely unlikely that she stabbed herself in the throat (even though we’ve seen cases of this in our departments.. lol)? Could this have been an exigent circumstance that caused an impulsive/grandiose act of self mutilation (that we’ve seen in the past in our departments 😂)?

And this is where people say you are a plant. Every time a former friend of mine would bring me BS political conspiracies I would show him now look here, then he would freak out I was getting my news from authoritarian sources.... Because i wasn't blindly accepting this guys BS, I was the problem. Nice work, keep up the good fight, there is things out there but we have to debunk these fools errands.

500-600 upvotes? Seems strange for a thread like this. This sub doesn't get many comments over 100 upvotes.

Trump vs Trump will have many lurkers who say meh and move on, then you get an especially grieves hypocritical tweet and it blows up. It is just the way things are on Reddit most lurkers lurk.

I think it's weird that a stupid article with a shit source has 1500 upvotes and so many people in this sub are attacking a comment that debunks the article.

Oh bc we know what propaganda looks like. That nanny will be acquitted.

It just seems very out of place and inorganic

Yep.

And luckily, we know what unchecked Schizophrenia looks like.

Also; no she won't. That's just stupid.

Let's make a bet friend. That nanny will be acquitted for certain bc she did The bidding of somebody rich.

I feel like encouraging this kind of stuff would just be wrong.

Nah you don't want to lose.

Ok.

It's a clickbait headline. I know that's the only reason I'm in this thread.

Many of us normal non-T_D users still lurk here and are sick of posts like yours tbh .

This insane post has hit /r/All because it is insane. You’re going to see a little extra activity in your sub while people wander in here to check out the sideshow.

stop making sense

You seem oddly familiar with the details of this matter.

Check his bank account, I bet he has 43 trillion dollars hidden somewhere.

I love seeing gilded comments on this sub. The ultimate bullshit alarm.

Its pretty easy then to spend $3 or whatever to discredit a comment. How much clicks and ad revenue do you think that gilded comment will cost thedailysheeple? Probably more than $3, making a gilding a pretty easy countermeasure to help retain some more of their most ardent readership.

Sounds like you’re grasping at random shit to discredit people you find suspicious. That’s stupid

It’s very unusual for gold to be given in this sub. Just a few years ago it was well known not to give gold in this sub.

So when I see a comment on a Sunday, first thing in the morning with gold, about a very controversial topic it raises suspicions.

What suspicions does it raise? I’m not getting those same feelings because the dude posted links to the information, you can verify it yourself.

Another user is already engaged with you and your friends, I'll pass on this one.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7n5xwg/so_let_me_get_this_straight_cnbc_aired_a_massive/drzunqk/

Your friends?” You might be mistaking paranoia for skepticism if you think I’m in cahoots with people because I asked you some questions.

You have a history of trolling racial threads and baiting people on race issues. To continue talking with you would be foolish and worthless. Happy new year.

And you seem intent on finding reasons to discredit people from having meaningful conversations with you. Enjoy your bubble.

Questioning motives is healthy. Spreading propaganda and lies is degenerate.

questioning motives is healthy

Sometimes. Questioning everything and anything can be a waste of time. Like, that dude provided links backing up his talking points, but you’re choosing to focus on the fact that the comment is gilded like it’s the most interesting part of the comment. You could be applying your skepticism towards the facts or links or any other part of the conversation that might be useful. Instead, you’re questioning the Reddit gold. Sounds like a waste of time.

Also, are you accusing me of spreading lies and propaganda? You’re already digging through my history - give me some examples of propaganda or lies that I’m spreading. I’m interested to see what you consider propaganda.

If you are defending a gilded comment it’s clear that you haven’t been a long time user of the subreddit.

As to your propaganda push, your stance on race and your enthusiasm to prove your stance says everything in itself.

I’m not defending a comment because it’s gilded. I’m questioning your ability to arbitrarily disqualify a comment that is backed up with links.

As to your propaganda push, your stance on race and your enthusiasm to prove your stance says everything in itself.

That says nothing. Give me some examples, prove yourself right. My stance on race is informed by facts and statistics, I tend to push back against uninformed assholes who preach racial inequality. If you’re one of those people, stand up for your bigotry. If I’m spreading lies, then prove it.

I’ve got nothing to hide. You seem to have nothing to prove.

Sunday.

600 upvotes.

Gold.

Reason enough for me to question the information in the post. Not arbitrary.

And you’re right, I don’t have anything to prove. I’m just challenging the ego maniacs who do have something to prove.

...so you’re arbitrarily choosing to ignore the facts? You’re not even going to read the sources and apply your skepticism towards any of it?

Sounds like you’d rather remain uninformed than try to learn the truth about stuff. What are you doing on this sub?

Lol

I get it. Some people can’t handle getting out of their comfort zone. If you’re comfortable dismissing stuff arbitrarily, and reading stuff and questioning things makes you uncomfortable, you are entitled to live like that. Enjoy your bubble :)

Gilding is another tool besides vote manipulation used to direct attention

That’s fair.

This

Agreed, gilded comments are usually a blatant sign of bullshit.

Now hurry up and give me my gold.

Seriously though, don't trust gilded comments on this sub. Keep digging into this story.

I’ve been crucified this morning for making this statement. Lovereddit.

Holy shit, WREKT!

That "press release" reeks of satire.

Holy fuck. In again starting to see reason in this sub. Fuck yes.

Reason doesn't mean you don't pursue conspiracy theories. Reason means you only pursue the internet that make sense.

That's what true critical thinking is, and what this sub is meant to be about.

Past a point, many "conspiracy theorists" simply pursue topics that confirm their existing beliefs without actually questioning it, or slipping into self-affirming theories without being self critical.

You are meant to question everything, not just the things you don't like. That is what being a critical thinker is supposed to be about.

I'd like to know where this 43 Trillion number comes from. Insight?

Or they are using their resources to snuff the whole thing out of existence.

I'm open to that.

Person X picks one of the web sites where the press release ran. Why this web site? Person X picks one of the executives at the company that runs the web site. Why this executive?

Who can we get to easily?

Person X finds the residence of the executive, kills the children or convinces the nanny to kill the children, then convinces the nanny to attempt suicide in front of the children's mother. How? Why? What did it accomplish?

Do it, or we torture and kill your entire family?

When $43 trillion is involved, 3 hours is a long time.

It also buys you a lot of manpower, and people willing to do anything for a slice.

Not saying you're wrong, but the kind of people pulling this shit wouldnt think twice about killing a random family to send a message.

“Do it or we torture and kill your entire family” ... do what?

Person X finds the residence of the executive, kills the children or convinces the nanny to kill the children, then convinces the nanny to attempt suicide in front of the children's mother. How? Why? What did it accomplish?

Did you not bother reading that bit?

Yeah, I’m asking to what end. Why would they kill this random dudes kids? What would that even accomplish, since it did absolutely jack shit in regards to this information getting out and being spread? It’s just... there’s nothing here hat links any of this, or did you not bother reading that bit?

Remove the article

Nanny could just be taking the fall. Admit to this or your family is next : shows evidence of how they got the children or info on nannys life.

Yeah. I was guilty when this story first showed up of jumping to the conclusion OP has here. And I did what you did here afterwards. It doesn’t add up after that, seems the nanny was unfortunately a nut and I feel bad that he worst thing these people will ever go through is spread across conspiracy sites like this.

Thanks for posting this. I pointed much of this out when it was posted like 10 times ago. It gets old.

doing god's work

People like you are what makes the Internet shine.

Thanks for taking time out of your day to do this, bravo.

Yeah ! You are right sir , we see nannys murdering children all the time , there is no relation to the article.

Doesn't add up: why destroy the leverage after the fact?

To send a message to others who were thinking about blowing the whistle on dark money.

Reminds me of all the high ranking banker deaths these last 3 years. Wonder if people are being told to either play ball or get kicked off the team...

What's Krim's incentive to keep silent now, though? This ought to be crusade-triggering.

Conspiracy nut: A phrase regular people use to undermine their own society by associating it was crazies.

First off -- lawsuits are public. CNBC airing a report on a lawsuit would not be exposing anything at all. Also, anyone can bring a suite -- this one almost certainly got thrown out of court (you can check, its public record).

Second, Current Gross World Product is $73 trillion. This laundering would be over half the worlds money - if that much cash were being laundered, essentially every accountant on the planet would have to be in on it. Thats the first red flag on this story.

Third --- why the hell would you kill someones kids the day after a story is broken? It accomplishes nothing except enraging the (still living) person who has all the damaging info on you while removing the most powerful leverage you might otherwise have.

Nothing about this story makes any sense.

It's all been scrubbed too, try following any of the links.

http://wtfrly.com/2012/10/27/cnbc-curiously-removes-article-on-43-trillion-financial-fraud-lawsuit-after-executives-kids-murdered-in-new-york-nanny-case/#.WkhuDXVMGBY

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5857/usaracketeeringonmortga.pdf

Brooklyn’s US District Court. Case No. 12-cv-04269-JBW-RML

Seriously these are the links you need to read. Time frame is 2003-2007. 850+ page lawsuit

It could have been $43 Trillion over a few decades of laundering... and if it were being done at a high level it could add up pretty quick if they weren't being caught. Still, I agree that's a ridiculous number, but the guy's kids did get stabbed to death. I'm not gonna doubt that there is something to it with so much already put at stake. The scrubbing just makes it more peculiar

I think I agree with you entirely. However, I will say that taking someone out after they fucked you could certainly make anyone who might plan to do the same to you in the future to think twice as they realize that even once their damaging info goes mainstream they will not be safe even then and would serve as a likely effective deterrent as any other in the context provided, FWIW.

Most parents would rather be tortured than rather have their children killed. Why kill the children when you could kill say wife, sibling, cousin etc. Sends the message we'll take the closest next.

To 1 and 2...

If one person, Bernie Madoff, can make $65billion dance the way he did... 80x that amount seems horrifyingly possible with more than 1 person involved.

Not only every accountant but their spouses, children etc. Paranoia strikes deep...

Also, his job was uploading digital content, not really breaking news.

Who's going around checking records of lawsuits though? Very few people.

It takes media coverage to gain traction and public interest.

Hence, why the media is so controlled.

Tried to verify the sources in the story...

Got a subscription request, and a file not found notice.

Is this all bullshit?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223346/Kevin-Krims-children-stabbed-death-bathtub-NANNY-luxury-Manhattan-apartment.html

And the $43 Trillion bit?

The links are all dead, and the author is no slouch. I'd wager it was scrubbed from the net. Same thing happens to PG stuff.

You can't scrub anything from the net. Once something is on the internet, stays.

That is absolutely false. The entirety of the internet does not automatically archive itself every second.

Furthermore: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act

Non-Mobile link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act

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Indeed but considering how many people use it. Chances that something is scrubbed completely is slim to none.

The daily mail is tabloid non-reliable source.

Lol but OP is reliable. Facts in this thread blatantly misstated as to links between murder and story aired. It's seeing links where there are none in this case.

Yes, a tabloid, but they pretty much don't write their own stories. They lift them from news sites, quote/source them and add some filler.

The murders were real. The nanny did it. The story about the $43 trillion money laundering is fake.

I can verify through my own personal experience that this did in fact occur.

Interesting, but the site has the following info. " $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000.00)."

uh...They missed a few 0's... (43,000,000,000,000.00 is trillion)

$43 billion does sound more reasonable...

43 billion, eh, no big deal, but 43 TRILLION...now that's something to worry about.

(meanwhile people are starving to death)

That money is enough to colonize space. Hmmmm

no $43 billion is also a huge amount of money to launder, but $43 trillion is crazy considering what the M2 supply is.... I'm just saying it could have been a typo that it was stated as $43 Trillion rather than Billion. It doesn't really take away from the crime - both are massive amounts.

Yes you have it straight. Whats the problem

What's the bet the killer was a mk ultra "assassin on the shelf". did the voices make her do it? someone at langley using v2k ...

Mind control... well, as much as people might deny MK ULTRA and the research into remote mind control, the patents are there.

“Started stabbing herself in the neck as the mother entered the bathroom” righttttttt

Ok, but I mean, why didn't they go after the Spire Law group then? Like, why go after media exec when you can just go after the lawyers? Not to say that this is not highly suspicious.

Theres only 80 trillion in the world, how could they get away with laundering over 50% of it

You're surprised?

The international banks and their cronies have more than enough power to pull of shit like this.

Yes, I would be surprised if they laundered half the money in existence.

Well... considering that 0.1% or so of the world's population hoards more than half of it, I wouldn't be surprised...

Here, let me blow your mind.

The same thing happened to the Editor-In-Chief of The Associated Press when they broke the LIBOR Scandal.

Give us a name, or a link.

"While at least 40 bankers have killed themselves in the 17-month period starting in March 2013 in the wake of the global banking scandal..." https://nypost.com/2016/06/12/why-are-so-many-bankers-committing-suicide/

The banksters do not fuck around. A stark reminder of reality and who reigns above us all.

The update is that the nanny lived and maintains her innocense.

So the system locked her up, declared her insane, pumped her so full of drugs that she couldn't speak. Then claims the nanny admitted to the crime by pointing in the direction of a written response.

Nanny is wheeled in on a bed with a ventilator.

What. The. F.

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/nyregion/nanny-admitted-killing-2-children-former-prosecutor-testifies.html?rref=collection%2Ftimestopic%2FOrtega%2C%20Yoselyn&action=click&contentCollection=timestopics&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=collection&mtrref=www.nytimes.com&gwh=23CAA1DE804907594E9F135262AC1648&gwt=pay

Nothing fishy going on here... /s

The update is that the nanny lived and maintains her innocence.

That's fucking crazy. Quick question, where did you see that she's maintaining her innocence? I couldn't find it in the article. I also couldn't find the part where it said they declared her insane.

She’s pled not guilty and her most previous court date was circa July 2017.

The New York times has about three stories ok this trial. You can google search it.

What are you talking about? “The system” pumped her full of drugs? She was on a vent and everyone on a vent is sedated. That’s medical care. Also, those confessions won’t stand in court and at the least (according to the article) they won’t be played in court.

Also, according to this article, she is pleading not guilty by way of insanity.

You did not do a very good job of presenting what was said in this article. In fact, I would call it misleading.

Nanny is wheeled in on a bed with a ventilator.

What the fuck does that even mean?^ Did they take a patient out of intensive care and wheel her ass into court while a ventilator is doing her breathing for her? (In case you don’t know that absolutely would not happen and absolutely did not happen here)

Instead of asking, why not duckduckgo look up for yourself!

Look what up? Should I search the term “rhetorical question?”

“Should I search the term “rhetorical question?””

Was that a rhetorical question?

Ass hat

The nanny sounds really crazy. Read this article, goes deeper into the voices she hears in her head. https://www.thedailybeast.com/killer-nanny-case-what-the-krims-didnt-know-about-yoselyn-ortega

That article sounds like fake news.

The article links to an description of the lawsuit from the WSJ. Why was no one from that organization targeted? More specifically, why was Krim - an SVP at CNBC Digital - targeted rather than someone on the editorial or investigative side, someone who would have actually signed off on the report?

Because this post is nonsense.

Boy it happened in places like China and russia and it is happening here. America is now more like a chinese communist dictatorship than a democracy.

These banksters are like the mob.

You mean the Abeel v. Bank of America case? Where Spire Law Group took several thousand dollars from ordinary people as part of a mass joinder scam and then vanished? Something tells me that the banks weren't quaking in their boots on that one. And CNBC probably took the "report" down because it was a press release from scam artists. I also sincerely doubt that Kevin Krim (the "person in charge") actually had or has editorial control over what gets posted, seeing as how that wasn't their job.

This one is hella spooky.

This happened over 6 years ago.

This is the first conspiracy on here that I want someone to debunk, it's just too fucked up.

Multiple people did debunk it above you in the comments. cnbc published a press release from a lawsuit which was itself a conspiracy to defraud "plaintiffs" the Spire lawgroup charged multiple of thousands of dollars to participate. Multiple other news organizations published the same press release. This particular press release wasn't even the first one given on the suit. 3.5 hrs after the press release, an executive at cnbc's wife walked in on her stabbed children, with the nanny red handed. Nanny attempted suicide, lived and pled insanity. There is no plausable connection.

You should get your facts straight, like most "conspiracy" stories you misstate the facts dramatically.

1) the story was about a private LAWSUIT filed over Mortgages, NOT money laundering.

2) The nanny DID stab herself and lived, and is in jail.

If people you think it is "common sense" to connect the dots, you have no logical reasoning skills. This is a NON_STORY!

she's catatonic

Take your fuckingg fake news and shove it up your A$$$

This happened in 2012, BEFORE the advent of “fake news”, shill

I remember when this murder happened here in NYC. This is the first I'm seeing of this angle. The mom and the super of the building walked in on the nanny murdering them, I think. No mention of anyone else being in the room when it happened. This was so horrific. The front of their building was a beautiful memorial of cards, candles, flowers and notes from many nannies saying they would never do something like this to their young charges. It was always a mystery to me what set this nanny off.

It happens every day. Seen it a million times. Now someone go sprinkle a little crack on him and let's go close this case for good.

Theres so much more going on behind the scenes than any of us can even imagine. The mast majority of the public is so unaware and desensitized they can really do whatever they want. Who ever it is, whatever it is... None of us know

This is exactly why the pedophile elite have to be destroyed at all cost.

No such thing as coincidence

A real nothing burger, from what year

Investigated how many times by the GOP already?

That is brutal, going after the persona kids?

Oh this is weird. I was emailing with Kevin the day before this happened. Was at a company that did a lot of segments with CNBC at the time.

I can assure you that this came out of left field and I’ve never heard anyone even suggest it had to do with them airing this. Not to mention, this segment wasn’t something that Kevin would have even been on the ground with as he actually dealt much more with their more mindless talk shows on CNBC.

Interesting to see this thread trying to connect the dots, but I think it’s highly unlikely these were in any way connected. He had a nanny that went insane and started stabbing. It was a tragedy and I don’t think there’s any particular reason for it other than her own mental issues. I’ve never heard Kevin or anyone else suggest otherwise.

If this was truly a “hit” than wouldn’t the people doing it make it clear what it was payback for?

If this was truly a “hit” than wouldn’t the people doing it make it clear what it was payback for?

To the public? No, definitely not

1. Lover the user name Op. Lol.

2. Wow never heard if this and saving to share with my family wow

How do you even spend 43 Trillion dollars?

This reminds me of what Justin Beiber said, something he allegedly confessed to his church, that "they"(4 I believe the article said).. took him in to a meeting, (NSFW) *had a new born 8 hrs old they showed him, and did insidious acts to, which he then proceeded to tell in depraved detail what they did to infant.. basically threatening him in to complying with their wishes, or else.. he or some misfortune would take effect, sorry for vague details, hubbi showed me that article 2 or 3 months ago, but same shit, some whistleblowers come out, and magically ENOUGH always they inform us of the sad tragedy took place.. Always.

As reported and covered by "The Daily Sheeple" Seems legit.

Welcome to America in the new Millennium.

A country where a journalist can write to all his journalist friends that he is in fear for his life, the FBI are following him, and even asks to borrow a neighbors car right before his car explodes and he hits a palm tree on VERY WIDE residential street.

move along nothing too see here, we found 'traces' of drugs from two weeks ago, must have been drugs...

this is so fucked up. they were children.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223346/Kevin-Krims-children-stabbed-death-bathtub-NANNY-luxury-Manhattan-apartment.html

The murders were real. The nanny did it. The story about the $43 trillion money laundering is fake.

I can verify through my own personal experience that this did in fact occur.

it would be $43 Trillion over a period of time, probably a couple decades. Not all at once.

What suspicions does it raise? I’m not getting those same feelings because the dude posted links to the information, you can verify it yourself.

I think you might want to take a second and read what I’ve written again. It will be good for you to practice your reading comprehension.