Let's Talk about Michael Jackson

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You can't name the jew and just expect to move on with your day.

They don't care about us.

How likely do you think it is that the Jackson family was totally aware of the Vendetta against Michael?

I do not have enough data on the Jackson family relationships to make any assessment of this. Is there a motivation beyond pure curiosity for this question?

Apparently they sacrificed him for Money, just a theory i heard on the internet though.

Never read into this one

listen to the lyrics in they don't care about us...

when did that song come out? when did the pedo allegations start?

Released - 1987

Allegations - 1993

"They Don't Care About Us" is the fifth single from Michael Jackson's album HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I, released on March 31, 1996. The song remains one of the most controversial pieces Jackson ever composed. In the US, media scrutiny surrounding allegations of antisemitic lyrics were the catalyst for Jackson issuing multiple apologies and re-recording the song with altered lyrics. The singer countered allegations of antisemitism, arguing that reviews had misinterpreted the context of the song, either unintentionally or deliberately.

Why did Google tell me the song released in 1987? That really confuses me, i suspected in released in the 90s

The same reason that when you google "african skull" it shows only european skulls. Something akin to fruit of the poisonous tree.

Sounds like how when you google "white mother with child" you get white mothers with black children.

Or like how when you google "european historical figures" you get black historical figures.

Just tried those. What you're saying is not accurate.

It worked for me, though it looks like a lot of the results are from reddit posts drawing attention to it.

More info? What's the difference? Sorry, not so educated on the topic

More info? What's the difference?

https://imgur.com/a/KS2cx

MAOI gene

size

smaller prefrontal cortex worse sense of time

etc. etc.

I heard shit about his father selling him out as a kid.

It was something i read on the internet, It was his Brother who was talking about something like this, can't remember where i found it though

Same here. Fucking internet...

FTFY: They don’t really care about us.

Being who? Tony?

i especially liked his work on thriller, and his singing/dancing on "ABC" was exceptional

His music was incredible, but it was humanatarism that made him my hero

He was definitely very talented!

He was definitely a target. Of course they had to destroy him by making the most hated of people. A king of pop who diddled kiddies during sleep overs......too easy and people will just gobble it up like the big lie.

the most Curious thing i discovered in my research was that he was scheduled for a meeting in the World Trade Center on 9/11

Link?

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Wow. They were trying to kill him from a very high level.

...The powers-that-be tried to smear, and then to kill, a man who could bring down a global pedo ring? He missed his date with death because he slept in late?

Pizza Pedos did 9/11?!?

Whoa!!!!!

Was just going to mention this, whoever arranged that meeting likely had advanced knowledge of 9/11

Dammit now i want to know who scheduled that meeting

It was...Bubbles! Dun Dun DUN!

Hey, I remember a while back hear something along the lines of him being a pedo was a smear and he was actually protecting the kids.

Just curious, if you came across anything about that.

Zionism does not play.

Y'know, I check in here every once in a while for shits and giggles and the occasional thought-provoking post, but when did /r/conspiracy take such a hard turn into blatant antisemitism? You guys don't even try to hide it anymore, and it seems to always end up with more upvotes than down.

At best it just seems to get ignored. Someone will pop into almost every thread with something akin to "It's the Jews!" and people just sort of take it in stride, never calling it out or questioning it.

In 2015, I think.

I wouldn't describe myself as an anti Semite but Jews do seem to have a disproportionate amount of power in the world and especially the UD

If you come here for shits and giggles then you aren't aware of the bigger issues, and no wonder you have no idea why people here are anti semetic.

But so then you agree with the sentiment that part of the general atmosphere of this subreddit is anti-semitism, then?

Bizarre.

It's unfortunate that blatant hate of a specific group of people is the reality, but when you put the dots together, you can see who really runs the show. And they're not running it fairly.

This is still blatantly wrong. This sub is anti-Zionist, not anti-Semitic.

Anti-Zionist does not equal anti-Semitism. Please go look up the difference.

So all the kiddie porn they found at neverland...the sleepovers with children in his bed....

I mean i dont doubt that the forces you describe are at work in this world, but if anything he was protected not targetted.

Planted Evidence, you are a fool to actually believe that nonsense

From what I recall, they found collections of Playboy and Hustlers at Neverland but nothing with children.

Collections of Playboys & Hustlers

Relevant

Is that real? Or photoshopped? Or a mj impersonator?

From the original article I read years ago, it happened sometime between 83-85 during a party.

Do you have a source that they found porn at neverland?

Edit: never mind I found it

From Sheriff's office:

"Some of the documents appear to be copies of reports that were authored by Sheriff's Office personnel as well as evidentiary photographs taken by Sheriff's Office personnel interspersed with content that appears to be obtained off the internet or through unknown sources," a representative of the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department said in an email to Billboard. "

Statement from Jackson family:

Seven years ago this coming Saturday, the world lost an amazing artist and humanitarian devoted to helping children in need in all corners of the world. Michael Jackson's fans, including the Executors of his estate, prefer to remember the wonderful gifts Michael left behind instead of having to once again see his good name dragged through the mud by tabloid trash.

Everything in these reports, including what the County of Santa Barbara calls "content that appears to be obtained off the Internet or through unknown sources" is false, no doubt timed to the anniversary of Michael's passing. Those who continue to shamelessly exploit Michael via sleazy internet "click bait" ignore that he was acquitted by a jury in 2005 on every one of the 14 salacious charges brought against him in a failed witch hunt.

This is actually a pretty well known hoax. Its amazing to see how these false allegations are still circling in the public sphere with little to no research.

The "child porn" images are not Sheriff's office report images, they're intermixed with official images that were just normal/legal porn. Someone got the leaked report, mixed in some child porn type stuff, and then leaked the report with the mixed in images and started putting out stories about how the Sheriff found child porn.

Why was he never charged if they found child porn and its even in official reports? It never happened, the Sheriff's office says it never happened, its a well known hoax of exactly the type this thread is about. Scandal and webs of lies, leaks, etc to drag someone's name through the mud.

I have always wondered about this. Didn't Corey Feldman say mj was one of the good guys?

Yes

MJ's former bodyguards only had good things to say about him. They also deny any knowledge that he was a pedophile.

When asked if they believed Jackson was a pedophile, all three men emphatically said "no."

"Being a man…men know men…and we [were] around him long enough to know…he was a man," Whitfield said.

Garcia said Jackson had "desires of women like we do. He had lovers."

Source

MJ named the jew.

Saw on cdan that Feldman was a shill. His silence bought and paid for and maybe he won't speak about Michael and Spielberg. I don't find Feldman believeable.

He still probably did creepy shit. He admitted to sleeping in the same goddamn bed as children. And he was on some kind of hormone blockers for his voice.

He was age dysphoric -- he felt he should be the age he was when the abuse started.

Still creepy AF. There's no getting around that.

So age dysphoria is the latest prog diagnosis which allows pedophilia? It's bad enough forcing women to accept men in their bathrooms and classifying pedophilia as a diseases anyways.

He said several times he looked at those kids as if they were his on sons/daughters. And he had peter pan syndrome (I’m not sure that’s the exact name, but he said he felt like peter pan)

That doesn't make it less creepy!

As someone who had a similar upbringing to MJ, I never believed the allegations. Like me I think he just liked hanging out with kids, as they tend to be less deceptive.

Saying that, since he lacked a "Normal" frame of reference, he didn't perceive hanging out in bed with kids as wrong. Somebody should have pointed this out to him, but you know money talks.

So what was the deal with that video I saw along time ago with Jackson holding a child by the leg over a balcony?

I do not remember him holding the child by the leg. More like Rafeeke holding Simba

I believe he was showing his son, prince. I believe. To the public. It could have been, blanket. I remember, I saw it on TV.

Very well written! I also believe that there is a conspiracy with either Sony's greed or the influence which worried some elites.

Another interesting note is the end of Black or White which was censored originally and not allowed to air with the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iADmTE96osc

Lots of speculation as to what this little segment really means.

There’s no music. Maybe a style choice to just play the music video? Was it “censored” censored?

It wasn't censored originally. I remember watching this when it came out. It had it's own timeslot and everything and was a special event on prime time. I was a boy and MJ was a huge deal to me so me and my parents watched it together. This part was overtly sexual and violent, which was...scary to me and presumably other youth as well who did not know what to make of it all. Great dancing though. If it ever was censored in further airings, like on MTV, it was probably because it was, like i said sexual, violent, and confusing and ate up another 5 mins of air time.

Michael Jackson's childhood was stolen from him.

What he did later in life is unknown to me.

Good post.

Now check out the conspiracy to kill Eazy E. A lot of his friends think his manager had something to do with it.

Kurt Cobain as well. He was threatening to quit Geffen because he was pissed off at being famous. Nirvana was worth a lot of money. Easy to bump him off, make it look like a suicide. If anyone doesn't buy it, the first suspect is his wife. No one considers that the label could have done it.

Tupac as well.

Jimi Hendrix... etc

Bob Marley

Fuck, that's right... There sure is a lot.

Yeah i've been thinking about the label side of it ever since I heard about how there's a saying that they're sometimes worth more dead than alive, expecially if they threaten to quit, which is messy. I remembered the stories about Jimi Hendrix too.

No one considers the label. I wonder if Courtney ever sued the guy who made that early movie about how she "killed him".

By the way, if you have the "With the Lights Out" box set, go take a look at the book inside of it. The cover of this book has a collage of "headlines". Notice anything strange? Nobody talks about this either, and i've suggested it a few times here and there. If you take a closer look, there are only two "headlines" which are upside down, and they also happen to be the smallest in lettering. They also contrast quite a bit from the rest of them in subject matter, and clearly aren't headlines from the time Kurt was alive.

Whoever was in charge of that cover either did this of their own will or did it for someone else who requested. I wonder who it was.

Wow, I had no idea.

So did he or did he not spend time alone with underaged boys in a room with its own alarm system and moved on to new ones as they got older? Can't deny the career sabotage nor the murder, that is obvious.

My instincst tell me MJ was a morally strong person due to the suffering he went though, he wanted that cycle broken not continued.

...but at the same time there are a lot of things you have to ignore to get there.

If he was guilty then why Does Corey Feldman vehemently proclaim his innocence?

What about Wade Robson and James Safechuck. Hell Jordan Chandler could describe MJs erect penis accurately?

You can only use the "for da money" argument to a point.

Yeah no you're an idiot, no actually fucking father would say this if it was even remotely true

Evan Chandler, Jordan Chandler's Father:

"If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever ... Michael's career will be over

How this will affect my Son is irrelevant to me ... It will be a massacre if I don't get what I want. It's going to be bigger than all us put together ... This man [Jackson] is going to be humiliated beyond belief ... He will not sell one more record

It was Evan Chandler who initially accused Jackson of molesting his son, Jordan firmly denied all allegations that Jackson Abused him in anyway until his father Evan administered him with a memory altering drug called Sodium Amytal

Because Feldman was paid to be silent.

Yeah they do. Enty's blind today explains it fairly well. http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/01/todays-blind-items-real-list.html

Ironic timing on this post. Or maybe not.

The cdan blind seemed to indicate Feldman named nobodies and dead people. If he's being paid enough by a couple people, then why does he have to be paid by all? There's something fishy about him wanting $$ to make his movie to reveal names.

It was the elders of a church along with hollywood and his father. MJ was a fine example of what happens when you hold on to your child spirit inside a den of thieves. No conspiracy needed it's in all his songs and it has happened to others that didn't have the limelight upon them.

Hadn’t seen anyone else mention, and I forget where I heard this, but I heard his father had him castrated to maintain his high-pitch singing voice. Could actually explain a lot if it’s true. Either way it’s sad what happened to him, regardless of what’s true or not. RIP Mike.

His father belongs in fucking jail

Well I think he’s dead lol

Edit: nope!? Wow woulda bet the house. I guess only the good die young is true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Jackson_(manager)

he has kids tho...?

I have always felt Michael was targeted. It's horrible what they did to him. Jon LaJoie said it fairly well

Need to find out who made his tomb because there appears to be a naked child fellating a naked man on his tomb. I rarely see it mentioned and it's hidden in plain sight. Maybe it's just a dwarf...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson#/media/File:Michael_Jackson_Grave.jpg

Click to zoom in HD

yeah, not a good look for MJ to have that on the tomb

Uh wtf

but what happened to his 50% after is death? wouldn’t that be passed down to his kids or something? it’s not like after death sony would have 100% ownership.

Yup, totally normal, everyday guy right here.

Sure, Blanket is a very common name for child.

Nope, never bleached his skin. That's just vitiligo. Which is also well known to shrink your nose, chisel your cheeks, and straighten your hair. It is also known that the more money you have, the more even the vitiligo is.

And who wouldn't want the portrayal of a pedo-blowjob on their tomb?

Anyone who finds any of these things weird is surely part of a conspiracy.

Sorry but I don't see any "Deep State" social or political issues that MJ could ever have influenced one way or the other.

For most of his career he was a fabulously wealthy and bizarrely eccentric glitter and glitz song and dance boy/man or man/boy whose performances, recordings, and on stage persona were all that any of his mainly young and youthful fans ever really cared about.

Entertainment pure and simple that always involved all kinds of dancers, musicians, and lavish stage productions besides MJ himself in person and very sophisticated orchestrations behind all of his various recordings that no one ever had any problems dancing to.

There's nothing new about artists getting ripped-off by unscrupulous agents, promoters, or accountants or blowing their fortunes making self-indulgent fantasies real for themselves, in fact there's fewer that haven't experienced it to some extent than have actually managed to avoid it.

The only real difference with MJ was the size and amount of money that was involved. Obviously where there's that much more money involved there's simply bound to be just that much more room for unscrupulously diverting vast sums of it or the artists themselves squandering vast sums of it like there's no tomorrow.

I think it says something about the society we live in the that they think MJ would be crazy to not have touched those kids.

I do not have enough data on the Jackson family relationships to make any assessment of this. Is there a motivation beyond pure curiosity for this question?

It was...Bubbles! Dun Dun DUN!