Is humanity devolving?

38  2018-01-06 by Quetzalcoatlwasright

I went to the grocery store, man, was it awful. I haven’t been in while. I liked to stay stocked up on food. Literally walked in with the intention of smiling at every person I crossed paths with. (I did this last week at the mall, just an experiment; I wore headphones and simply smiled at random people). One singular lady repaid the kindness.

And she worked there, so who knows how genuine it was.

I recently moved to a small(ish) town. I thought it was supposed to be friendier? I mean literally half of these people have some kind of disability and probably assumed I was making fun of them, simply by smiling at them.

On a side note, I’m noticing that obesity is becoming a major problem. The grocery store I went to has cheap products and was very busy. The produce section, where I was, was almost compeltely empty. Hordes, and I mean hordes, of people were stacked around the cookies and cakes sections. It’s like, do you guys understand? That’s likely why you are out of shape, or even why you have a debilitating condition.

My father is 46. He’s in the hospital right now for a condition related to diet. I’m not sure how to tell him that fast food and little Debbie’s do not makeup a sufficient diet.

We’re literally killing ourselves with the food we eat. I’m just not sure what it’s gonna take for the people to see that.

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I don't think so. Obesity is only really a major issue in the West, and even then only in parts of the West- the US and UK are the worst offenders. Small(ish) towns can still have plenty of assholes, what you want to do to truly test it is to avoid the supermarket- no one wants to be there in the first place- instead go to a community event, where people want to be around other people, and do your same thing. I'm willing to bet you get a completely different reaction from almost everyone.

I hear you. I’m not really that interested in making friends, I have friends elsewhere. I came here for work. I just thought there would be more general kindness at face value, and so far urban life is better that way.

I just thought there would be more general kindness at face value, and so far urban life is better that way.

I agree 100%. The suburbs are far less welcoming and "communal" than urban communities. I've lived in Middle Class Suburbs, Upper Class suburbs, and inner city "campus" suburbs...and by far my favorite was the city/campus suburbs. People were always willing to talk, always out on their porches, there were community gardens...the works. There's something missing about outer-ring Suburbia imo.

Yeah there’s too much space in between building and a sea of fast food restaurants

But we need those strip malls!

Haha I think not

Next you're gonna say giant concrete box malls that serve only one purpose and are highly susceptible to recessions aren't necessary either! Madness! We must consume!

FEED ME

Suburbia gets harder hit by the negative effects of diversity. Read Bowling Alone and Robert Putnam's other works.

I'll look into the recommendations, but I know the truth of your statement from first hand experience. My parents bought their house in 2000. They were the 5th house in the whole new build development. 2008 hit the neighborhood hard, and since about 2010 everyone who has sold/lost their house has done so to a landlord. No one is buying the houses to live in, they are renting them out. In a neighborhood of more than 100+ houses, my parents are among about 10 that are still owners. The rest are renters. And predominantly immigrants, which isn't really an issue in and of itself, but is more an extension of the socio-economic changes facing the neighborhood and country at large.

Suburbia is changing, and not for the better. 2016 was the first time ever where more poor lived in the suburbs than in the inner cities. The wealth is contracting and concentrating, and the tastes of the new generation of Millennials are changing as well...people want community, they want mass transit, they want compact and easy to access jobs. The suburbs just don't offer that. I shudder to imagine what the Suburban Ghetto is going to look like...it is going to be a hell.

Yeah the neighborhood I'm in now is like half white people who were there from the start, and half dotcom boom Asians. Super closed off in general, much different from when I lived in a mostly homogenous community.

I shudder to imagine what the Suburban Ghetto is going to look like...it is going to be a hell.

I imagine it'll basically be like what small towns are like now. Drug addled shitholes that no one should live in but people do for some reason.

I think that suburbs largely just exist because of insane zoning laws that make it nearly impossible to build and then the large developers are the only ones who can make it through the red tape by creating the same stupid work plan, safety plan, storm water plan, etc template for every property. At least in California if you are just a dude with $150k in the bank, property and the skills to build a house then you are probably not even going to be able to build your home or at least it will be too expensive and time consuming to be worth it. The [Soviet] "developers" swing in and up comes a Walmart next to the suburb. Oh, don't forget about tiger salamanders. This is why modern developers are so vapid. Also there is nothing within them worth walking to and this also means you will not be getting exercise doing casual things in your, you know, life. To get exercise always means actively doing something that is in itself completely pointless. So instead of "fat" people being just the happily pudgy ones they instead become quite obese.

Believe Mexico has the US beat in obesity now.

Red meat, fast food, & little debbies

The three main food groups

I will starve lol

whats so bad about red meat?

Let's assume you have super healthy and quality, in terms of the health of, let's say a cow (e.g. no added growth hormones etc). Even with that condition, specific molecules found in red meat will cause mutations (unknown mechanism) that increases the risk of developing cancer.

Recent study

As of today, the consumption of meat is unreasonably high worldwide.

There is no better way to advertise that you don't want to talk to people than to wear headphones.

Yeah it’s my go to. But I mean I was making a concerted effort to smile, and some people responded that time, the first go round. Most people just looked at me like I was a weirdo.

are you?

Arguably not

just checking

Wearing headphones and randomly smiling is weirdo behaviour. You smile at old people when they catch your eye and say good day, you smile when something mutually funny happens or someone does something polite. Maybe smile when you're all waiting for a bus or in queue at the store. Wearing giant headphones and grimacing at people will not elicit a positive response haha.

Being nice is not weird. How do you think that?

its more about what you look like not your actual intentions, you could be the nicest person in the world but if your dressed poorly or look a certian way people will judge you, most people make their opinions within like 1/10 of a second of seeing someone

This is happening around the world. Physical shops are become areas to concentrate humans who ether do not understand a tablet, can’t get a credit card, hate the future so much, that they are unable to shop online. It’s not that there are more of these kinds of people, it’s just that the ratio of them compared to “normal” people is a lot higher.

I personally enjoy going to the grocery store, or I used to.

I know what you mean. Very few people in my town (10,000 people) will smile back at you.

I feel like it used to be the opposite. Like cities were worse in that regard

Well, I'm sure there are many towns where everybody there is straight out of Pleasantville. I think a huge problem we have now is everyone being glued to their phones. It's caused such a huge disconnect. I've, only recently, started to notice my problem with it. I'm trying to cut back on the usage, keyword trying haha. I'd like for us to be able to have an amazing product in our pocket and exercise enough will-power to not check it every 5 minutes. Everyone would smile at each other.

The corporation's are making people fat buy selling them cheap crap...the medical industry and big pharma love it ..the cops love it ..fat obese people are easier to control..if you are heavily overweight look up r/keto it will blow you out or should I say suck you in.

Yeah. I’m totally guilty of this. I try to eat healthy, but then I reward myself with cake. I don’t know how to stop. I know what I’m doing is stupid, but I just keep on eating junk and not exercising. I wish I had some, tiny bit of self control. :-/

I live in the South (USA) and 90% of the people smile at each other all the time. Strangers in the grocery line have small conversations all the time too.

I live in Texas

Find the good people and join up with them.

First off, the not smiling back thing can be a cultural thing. For example, New Yorkers(city) don't really do that but they aren't necessarily bad people. Ask them for directions and they'll usually stop and tell you how to get there.

Regarding what you said about poor diet. One word. Addiction. Namely, sugar addiction(guilty as charged.) There's a reason why super markets have cakes near the entrance and candy near the check out isle. The people who run these businesses know that it's a drug and most people don't have the self-control to resist the urge. It is also IMO the greatest contributor to the health(obesity) epidemic we face in the US.

Also important to remember carbs(bread, pasta, rice) is really sugar and they are highly addictive. Next time you think you're starving, consider that it really isn't hunger but a carb/sugar withdrawal.

I feel ya, I’ve been off of meat and bread for a week and I have a constant hunger. It’s almost like food helps with boredom, I’ve had like 10 oranges today just anytime I’m bored lol

Getting off carbs(sugar) is really difficult. The issue isn't only the physical dependence but the psychological. Eating is often used to self-medicate many things ranging from boredom to serious MH issues like depression and anxiety. Either way, I wish you luck on your quest to eat clean. It does get easier over time.

It will pass! The body is amazing, given a chance.

Agreed, our diet is killing us. From an earlier post -- sorry for the length, but it's worth it if this topic interests you:

This is arguably the most important topic to get red-pilled on, as our bad diet is the foundation upon which the (((medical mafia))) rests. To be blunt: Humans are eating the wrong diet for our species, and it is causing a wide range of bad side-effects. This is counter to many, if not most, academic teachings. But luckily, we can reason through this pretty simply.

Look at your body. Very little hair. You wouldn't survive the night, let alone the winter, in most parts of the world before the advent of fire and tools. We were designed, by evolution, for the tropics. Our bodies evolved for millions of years to be suited to that environment. Humans are a tropical species, and our diet should reflect that. In a tropical environment with no fire, no tools, what would you eat? Raw chickens? Grass? The milk of a grazing species? No! We'd eat fruit! It's just lying there on the ground or hanging from the trees! Just like most primates.

In short, modern humans should be eating primarily fresh, raw fruit and dark leafy greens. Then make some tweaks to reflect your more recent ancestry -- maybe add some (raw?) eggs, fish, a little clean meat. Avoid grains and bread, avoid dairy. And that crap in the center aisles packaged in shiny boxes with ingredients you can't pronounce... THAT'S NOT FOOD. Doesn't matter if it screams "HEALTHY! LO-FAT! ACTIVE LIFESTYLE!!" in a 62 point serif font!

Yes, we can adapt to other diets. Our bodies can run on a wide variety of fuels. But there are consequences, most notably acidic buildup leading to tissue degeneration. We group symptoms of these byproducts into "diseases" -- an entirely invented concept (whew, there's a redpill for ya..) -- and are sold various pharmaceuticals to treat these symptoms, never the cause. (Wouldn't want to lose a customer!) We call them "cancer", "heart disease", etc. -- these are all the result of poor diet.

Here are a couple books that'll help guide you down the path to medical freedom and keep you there:

Some excellent YouTube channels:

Of course it is difficult, maybe impossible, to switch your diet all at once. A common, very good first step is to eat only raw fruit until noon. Then eat your regular diet the rest of the day.

Note that this topic is generally shilled all to hell -- if westerners started eating right, the trillion dollar pharmaceutical industry would collapse within just a couple years. Just keep that in mind, use your own discernment.

Excellent recourse, thank you! I’m a week into renewing my commitment to veganism myself and it’s going great!

What do you think differentiated humans from other primates in brain development? The invention of cooked meats. While part of your comment is right I don't think anyone should be eating pure fruit, rather we should be eating the meat that our ancestors hunted.

Isn't lean meat and a shit ton of vegetables about as healthy as you can get?

You need to stop looking for a reward. Smiling is wonderful and you should practice it no matter what the reaction you receive in return is. Your smile may have meant something to those people that they couldn't express in that specific moment, but if you are smiling at others with good intent you have blessed someone whether they acknowledge it or not.

Also note that your experience with people at the grocery store caused you to believe that humanity is devolving.

No doubt. I’m not trying to be negative. I just thought it was disheartening. But don’t worry, I’ll keep doing my thing.

Be the light. Take off the headphone take the time to make them want to smile at the next person because you were friendly.

It's sad really. The standard American "low-fat" diet is outright killing people. And no one knows any better because the schools don't feed the kids anything other than that, they don't teach kids any better, the doctors (for the most part) give extremely vague advice like "eat healthy" to people suffering from diet related diseases. The demonization of fat and praise of carbohydrates has left the country overweight, constantly hungry, and suffering from a swathe of diseases that come with over-consumption of these foods.

abso fucking lutely.....humanity is close to losing consciousness (again)

Greed is the sickness taken over. The companies that create fastfood dont care about your well-being. They just want money. So they create very addicting and unhealthy products so they can sell more. Resulting in people with obese.

Yes into robots. Check out my post on transhumanism tomorrow ; )

Couple that with all the non human interactions we have all day with computers, the fact that people spend so much time indoors, the chemicals in the foods and that most people in this country take pharm drugs...recipe for disaster...

I don't care about smiling at random people.

Humanity as a whole generally doesn't care about people outside of their immediate circle.

That's not devolving that's simple human behavior that goes all the way back to our times of living in tribes. It never went away

posts about devolving bc no one wants to give you warm and fuzzy smiles are silly

America has an obesity problem because the sugar industry his the serious health affects from the general public for decades and now we have sugar in everything. And the good for you food is so much more expensive than the processes preserved bullshit.

Although I just found thrive Mart or market or whatever online and they have loads of affordable healthy food so I recommend people take a look there for at least snacky type stuff

" i wore headphones and smiled at everyone " in a grocery store....

Try doing that at the gym, you'll look like less of a weirdo/douche bag.

What you don't seem to understand is that doing what you were doing in a grocery store of all places is fucking wierd. Esspecially if you need to make the conscious effort.

I go run ing every morning around a lake - 8km - i nod and smile at everyone i run past without thinking and 90% repay that token of kindness.

You dont do it at a grocery store with headphones on. Its called anti social behavior.

Yes I think we are.

IMO Science and technology are evolving. Humans (generally in western cultures) are getting fatter, sicker and stupider. Combination of all 3 is eventually going to be your typical average human being. Solution? Be a fat useless, lifeless, lump and plug into a virtual reality, where you can be whatever you want to be. Finally be free from your own fat, stupid ass.

I don't even blame us (us being people like you, me and the ones you bumped into in the shop). We're all addicts, some are worse than others. Addicted to sugar and consuming as much and as many products as possible. Then once we get sick from that, we get addicted to the pain pills we "need", or the Ritalin that the kids have been given because their sugar diet and lack of exercise/attention has been misdiagnosed as ADHD. Or the tonnes of other psychiatry drugs that are given out like candy based on a doctor/psychiatrists OPINION that we become heavily addicted to, rather than maybe exploring diet, exercise, sleep, personal relationships, mindfulness. It's an extremely vicious cycle where nobody wins except big food and pharma.

I don't blame us because they suppress the truth about food, health and our minds. It's the medical professionals, business men and politicians that never offer anything more than quick short term fixes that benefit them and not us. The only people who will set themselves free from this poison life style are the ones willing to seek the truth and make the right decisions for themselves and their family. Whenever I see my friends buying their 3rd mcdonalds that week, I try my best to tell them how bad it really is to eat that way and how frickin amazing you feel once you stop eating that way. They never listen, but I can't do anything more than that.

Keep smiling at anyone and everyone :) The positive energies will make an impact, even if it's not in form of a smile back

A lot of us feel like prisoners, possibly bc we are- metaphorically or not. Your smiling experiment reminded me of the old HBO series, "Oz." Beecher asked his sponsor for advice and he replied, "Yeah, stop fucking smiling."

For me though, a little genuine human interaction/kindness/civility can go a long way in making a day bearable.

Are we devolving? See how you would fare taking this exam for 8th graders from 1895:

http://longstreet.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83542d51e69e201b7c78d0db6970b-500wi

Here’s the famous 1895 eighth-grade test from Kansas. See how you would do.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2015/10/16/heres-the-famous-1895-eighth-grade-test-from-kansas-see-how-you-would-do/?utm_term=.cce5f3241fb8

Bad food/water/air + everyone hooked on pharma + bad lifestyles(sedentary, little time spent with plants and dirt, light pollution&screens) = hella dysgenics

Yes it is. The society has overerripen.

its more about what you look like not your actual intentions, you could be the nicest person in the world but if your dressed poorly or look a certian way people will judge you, most people make their opinions within like 1/10 of a second of seeing someone