Thought stealing advertisements
17 2018-01-08 by Blue_Ken
I've often googled a product and subsequently be targeted by ads involving similar products in the past. I also have mentioned certain company brands over the phone and in my home, and again noticed now the ads are about that. Now is where I'm actually getting the 1984 cringe vibe, the ads have now somehow changed to the things I'm thinking about the most. How is the latter even possible? I wasn't sure which subreddit to ask, more specifically not be immediately called crazy.
58 comments
1 MyselfBagel 2018-01-08
That's been around for some time now. Targeted ads. Advertising IDs allow companies to track what you do, and such and use that. Google Home and Amazon Alexa are ad machines with always on microphones you willingly bring into your home, even just on your cell.
1 vespertained 2018-01-08
Yes, he knows that. What he's asking about is why are ads targeting things that he is THINKING of, in his mind. Not something that can be recorded.
1 oldMiseryGuts 2018-01-08
Things you’ve spoken about and googled are likely to have been shared with advertising agencies. As far as things youve only thought about, its more likely pattern recognition. Like when you buy a new car and all of a sudden you start seeing that same model everywhere, it was already there but now you’re acknowledging it because it has significance to you. Its very common
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
I understand but it's actually gone beyond what I've said, and my history searches. These new ads are just on another level of invasive.
1 0000000047 2018-01-08
I experience the exact same things. It's freaky, right? And it's a major red flag. Keep an eye out for stuff like this, stuff beyond advertisement.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
Thanks you seem to understand my question. Can you expand in anyway?
1 0000000047 2018-01-08
Ermm, let's see. I'll try.
I frequently browse websites like Amazon and craigslist. It's very strange that whenever I do this, and then I go to another site, I'll get ads about nearly identical things. And this has been going on for months for me. I've also noticed that I will begin to think about things, or I will notice something for the first time, and then it will start showing up everywhere.
Concerning my prior warning, I have no doubt that we are constantly being monitored. Everything on the internet is somehow traceable, so it almost goes without saying that this will relate to things that are not shopping. Say, you recently looked at a tutorial on how to fix a skateboard. Suddenly, you see advertisements for skateboard parts, skate shops, etc.
It's blindly accepting things that is the worst. The reason the vast majority shrugs this otherwise terrifying thing off as nothing, is because its convenient, and that's all that matters.
It's very strange. I do not fancy the idea of being monitored for profit. It's only a gateway to much worse things.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
Thank you for the response, but I'm talking about thoughts alone. No tutorials, no research, no youtube videos, nothing. It's knowing things I keep to myself entirely.
1 0000000047 2018-01-08
Well in that case, it would imply that they heavily monitor you and can formulate predictions as to what you might think of next. Psychology has a huge part in marketing and advertising, so I could only assume that patterns are being formulated to best appeal to your interests.
I know exactly what you're saying. I've thought of stuff before and within days have ads about those things. It's creepy, and I suggest keeping an eye on it, maybe try to dig deeper into it. Do a little homework and see if it happens to others, try and figure out any patterns/things in common.
Best of luck to you, and I apologize for being unable to help you further.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
This is precisely what I'm talking about. That's also why I came here so I can get pointed into certain projects or 'spiritual' explanations. I would like to know how its being done... I guess knowing why would be important as well. It's just strange, and confusing especially because the ads are trying to be helpful. So it's even more abnormal that it is showing concern. Now I know this sound bat shit but that's the vibe it's giving me.
1 MoronToTheKore 2018-01-08
They aren’t directly reading your mind.
But they are kind of reading your mind.
The power of pattern recognition in these ads services is mind-boggling, and the kinds of data they sweep for equally so. In very real ways, they know more about you than you know if yourself.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
I hate to be redundant but what you're telling me I understand already. These are things that have no source to draw the pattern from.
1 MoronToTheKore 2018-01-08
I mean, like what? What specific ads?
I’m willing to bet there is some possible chain of causality.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
See the problem here in telling you the subject of thought I would be doing what I have yet to do. I wan't to keep it private, but I'm trying to see if anyone has any theory of the how it's been done.
1 MoronToTheKore 2018-01-08
Are the ads for a product available in a store you’ve ever visited?
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
They are treatments, services variety. Not something like X Car or Y Shoe
1 MoronToTheKore 2018-01-08
Have you ever googled that kind of service before? Or the condition or damage or what have you that the treatment could fix?
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
No. ok here is an example but not the actual situation. I have a computer unaffiliated with my identity in anyway. I buy airplane ticket using device on grid. On the computer suddenly my ads change to things to do in London. When I never exhibited any interest in traveling to London before. Or say I'm having panic attacks, I will be offered counseling or medical or dietary things for it. Again these are examples of what the off grid device would now show more commonly.
1 MoronToTheKore 2018-01-08
The computer and device being in physical proximity is enough for the ad service to make the connection that it likely owned by the same person or somebody else might want to take that trip with you.
As for mental issues, you should look up the story about Target knowing a girl was pregnant before she did. Something you googled ticked a check mark for other individuals experiencing those thoughts, even if the google search isn’t directly related to those kinds of thoughts. Simply collating music tastes or something can be enough.
They know everything, and if a computer is connected to a network in any way, identity sealed or not, the location tells all that needs knowing.
Really, in a way, the location services is the strongest part of these things.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
This is most likely correct and I have read about the Target mailing out diaper coupons or whatever it was. However I'm telling you my instinct is telling me it shouldn't know this shit.. sigh I'm typically not a paranoid person either, it's just gives me that simulation feeling ¯_(ツ)_/¯
1 MoronToTheKore 2018-01-08
It shouldn’t know this shit.
The computer understands your patterns better than you do for reasons that don’t register as patterns to our meat-processors. It’s fucked.
But don’t be paranoid. This happens to everybody. They don’t need to listen to your conversations (yet) to know everything there is to know.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
I keep up on what data companies collect as far along as is made public. I just can't comprehend how the device out of the loop would be able to generate it. Proximity bypassing vpn and proxies? Like how the fuq does it know my phone data and other personal date? I'm sure it can be done, I was just shocked it has been done. I thought it was still in development stages of figuring people out.
1 MoronToTheKore 2018-01-08
Are you absolutely sure your VPN is strong and proxies secure? Never entered an address near your physical location into a pizza delivery website before or something? Logged into an account with that information present? There are lots of avenues.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
It could somehow obscurely know I use the same filelocker hosted in europe for watching movies and such. That is the lone connection of identity and even that is hidden behind throw away e-mail and giftcard. So that is one hell of a reach to know I used that file locker to stream dbs super on my phone one time in november 2016 and use that info to back trace my proxy and vpn to know hey these 2 devices are the same guy,
1 MoronToTheKore 2018-01-08
I mean
Computers don’t forget things, really. Not anymore. I am not well-versed enough technically to know how exactly it would be possible... but I do know it is not likely your mind is being read in a literal sense. This is what you should meditatively recognize as a paranoid thought... and even if it is true... you can’t do much about it. It is not hurting you. So breath.
That’s what I do, anyway.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
I'll just go back to ignoring it. I'm not literally having anxiety attack over it. I just feel like the logical answer is pattern recognition is getting to a uncanny point. Though it's ability of doing that makes it feel almost supernatural... which it most likely is not. Thanks for entertaining the conversation, I'll end it on the belief its just that good of parsing data. Still feels like it's a little too good.
1 MoronToTheKore 2018-01-08
No problem.
The computers will have souls soon enough. It’s just that good at parsing data.
1 samout 2018-01-08
I know what you're talking about. I freaked out recently as I was googling for video game related discussions (specific game/company) and I had a super random invasive thought "I wonder if fortunetellers are just really good at guessing" that made me laugh out loud. I clicked a GameFAQs link immediately after that and the page gave me a nearly full-page Google Ad screen for "Local fortunetellers in your area" and it felt so random and out of place for a Google Ad (I have carefully customized my Ad Preferences).
1 Trinc 2018-01-08
j In 9
1 MoronToTheKore 2018-01-08
Huh?
1 Trinc 2018-01-08
Guess I pocket replied.
1 MoronToTheKore 2018-01-08
Spooky lol
1 tedsmitts 2018-01-08
It's confirmation bias, not some kind of mind control.
1 Robert_Doback 2018-01-08
Most things you sign up for these days (even things you DONT sign up for, like Windows 10) ask you if you consent to "targeted advertising". They use cookies to track what you talk about and websites that you visit, and then tailor ads based on that information. And also share said information with other companies.
It isn't a conspiracy- it's you not paying attention to what you're consenting to.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
I knew mostly this would be the response. Without going into specifics, these ads are of a personal variety. Targeting ailments I feel to ashamed to admit via any form beyond my thoughts.
1 Robert_Doback 2018-01-08
Ailments that you've never searched for information about?
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
Correct
1 Robert_Doback 2018-01-08
So then, in your opinion, internet companies are reading your thoughts?
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
Assuming I haven't, have you read anything at all that might explain the phenomena?
1 Robert_Doback 2018-01-08
No, this would be the first time I've heard about the Internet literally reading somebody's mind.
1 Rightfull9 2018-01-08
Only other explanation is that you have searched for things that are related to your specific ailment. Search companies like Google have insane amount of information and they are constantly studying that information and creating algorithms. With all the data they have its likely they can predict things about you based on what you search and say or buy without you saying exactly what it is based on the data they have gathered on billions of others. If that makes sense.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
It does. I just have been jaw dropped that it can predict like that. Also this particular device shouldn't know who I am but it does despite my precautions.
1 Rightfull9 2018-01-08
I think they have that capability. Think about the sheer amount of data they have. Each person they survey is another chance to further perfect their algorithms and better its accuracy. They probably have billions of people worth of unique data and they aren't just going to sit idly by with that data. They have some of the best minds in the world at their respective fields working for them and companies like Google have generally funded far reaching R and D projects. Its probably more powerful and sophisticated than most people understand by now with what it can predict or even change. I don't know if its as smooth as you put it but generally I think they have the capability to recognize that habits x,y, and z increase the likelihood of A to so and so percent. So they will take a chance and see if they connect with a targeted ad or suggestion.
Yes, its scary what they can do with the information they have especially since they are probably exploring every single angle thoroughly.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
This is a really good explanation
1 OhHolyOpals 2018-01-08
I’m 29 female, married with no kids and constantly have ads for IVF. I don’t think about ivf or google anything related to menstrual cycles, getting pregnant etc, we have decided not to have kids because we can’t afford it (yet) but they don’t know that.
There may be something missing from your profile that is more telling then what you google. You can target ads for things people don’t like or don’t have.... it might be a coincidence that you are actually thinking about this thing though. Or they’ve tapped your neurotransmitters.
1 OutInLF25 2018-01-08
I too get ads for penis enlargement. 😔
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
lol I internet too much, I could see these type of responses as I set myself up I'm serious though and it's not Penis pills
1 DonnaGail 2018-01-08
I can't stop laughing! Seriously. Giggling out loud and hoping I don't wake anyone up!
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
/r/murderedbywords
1 DonnaGail 2018-01-08
🙂
1 fight_for_anything 2018-01-08
why dont you use an ad blocker?
https://adnauseam.io/ is dope as fuck.
it hides the ads from you, but it also sends fake clicks in the background. this does a few things.
a) wastes the advertisers money. showing ads doesnt cost a ton, but they pay A LOT for when people actually click the ads.
b) since you are "clicking" ALL the ads, it starts to screw with their demographic data of who you are. normally, they can guess your age, gender, and some interests based on history, but when you just click on everything, they dont know what to think. your basically both genders, all ages, interested in everything, and so on. its like if several people in a family or a bunch of roomates all shared the same computer.
now, it blocks most of the ads anyways, but its nice that the few that get through are just random shit.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
I do use but I white list on some sites like Reddit for example.
1 fight_for_anything 2018-01-08
wtf, why? fuck reddit.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
I try to support things that give me distraction.
1 wadewatts01 2018-01-08
You are telling the truth. I've experienced it too.
1 newhaircut989 2018-01-08
i experienced this. i have 9 fake teeth and i never talk about them or look into them, since im only 28. ive always wanted implants but never talked or searched.about them outside of talking to my dentist years ago. yet discount implants pop up for me all the time. like why are fake teeth of the exact type i need for my exact financial situation appearing. crazy.
1 Upupabove 2018-01-08
So then wouldn't we say that they know you went to the dentist, that some how somwhete they now every precedure you have ever gotten, illness, medicine, school/job related stuff.
Like a bigger file on who you are, that interacts with the internet and builds more to your file.
1 Upupabove 2018-01-08
So OP...would something have happened to you in your past, non internet related but maybe kept on file somewhere (school, dr, parents records, courts, ect)
That might in some small way correlate to why you would be having whatever thought.
Example...say someone's parents are divorced, or you don't speak to relatives...an expert might say you have a high chance for being depressed or maybe drinking ect.
1 Reality_is_a_scam 2018-01-08
they data companys werent kidding when they said they know you better than you know your self.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bXJ_obaiYQ
1 0000000047 2018-01-08
Ermm, let's see. I'll try.
I frequently browse websites like Amazon and craigslist. It's very strange that whenever I do this, and then I go to another site, I'll get ads about nearly identical things. And this has been going on for months for me. I've also noticed that I will begin to think about things, or I will notice something for the first time, and then it will start showing up everywhere.
Concerning my prior warning, I have no doubt that we are constantly being monitored. Everything on the internet is somehow traceable, so it almost goes without saying that this will relate to things that are not shopping. Say, you recently looked at a tutorial on how to fix a skateboard. Suddenly, you see advertisements for skateboard parts, skate shops, etc.
It's blindly accepting things that is the worst. The reason the vast majority shrugs this otherwise terrifying thing off as nothing, is because its convenient, and that's all that matters.
It's very strange. I do not fancy the idea of being monitored for profit. It's only a gateway to much worse things.
1 Blue_Ken 2018-01-08
It does. I just have been jaw dropped that it can predict like that. Also this particular device shouldn't know who I am but it does despite my precautions.