People can think what they want. That is the greatness of this forum.

It's not r/conspiracy that thinks wikileaks is compromised, it's the paid actors and ignorant outsiders that come around these parts that do. Don't be dissuaded by the ignorant and the shills. I'll never forget what Assange did by leaking those emails, to show that HRC cheated my guy, Bernie, out of the goddamn Primaries. Fuck HRC, Obama, Kamala, Deval, the DNC, and all the rest of the Corporate Centrist fucks for what they've done to this country.

Assange isn't our enemy, and he's not a fucking Russian plant.

lol, you make me question everything i believe, you constantly comment about political theatre, and yet you also make comments on how you think the black nobility are at the top, contradicting all political garbage you say you believe

tonights the night, i've figured it all out i think, so i guess thanks, you need not worry about me anymore

and for the rest until i delete all my shit in the morning, what has assange or snowden done for us other than tell us what we already know, who is behind bars or better yet fuckin hung by a rope because of their "leaks"?

this is what i've come to realise, we are no longer following rabbit holes, we are caught in a rabbit trap

peace and love to all those that truley seek it

lol, you make me question everything i believe, you constantly comment about political theatre, and yet you also make comments on how you think the black nobility are at the top, contradicting all political garbage you say you believe

It doesn't really contradict things though. I have a way I want the world to run, and I see the way the world is run. Just because I have hope in a political solution and want to actively fight the darkness, doesn't make a recognition of said darkness irrelevant.

tonights the night, i've figured it all out i think, so i guess thanks, you need not worry about me anymore

Considering I wasn't worrying about you in the first place...ok? Have fun out there in the night fellow traveler.

what has assange or snowden done for us other than tell us what we already know, who is behind bars or better yet fuckin hung by a rope because of their "leaks"?

I stated in my OP, 2 of the biggest things WL did was the DNC Leaks and the Podesta Emails. As a Bernie supporter it was a truly revealing look into the machinations of the DNC and HRC machine, and how they cheated Bernie out of the Primary. Things me and millions of others will never forget. Especially when it comes time to vote in 2020...my vote wont be going to some Corporate whore like Kamala or Deval, that's for sure.

this is what i've come to realise, we are no longer following rabbit holes, we are caught in a rabbit trap

Depends entirely on the subject my friend.

you fail to mention that your vote is as useless as the dnc and pedosta leaks, at the bottom of the rabbit hole, you are suppoaed to see politics is a hoax, and what is politics? politics is rule, govern-ment translates to control mind, on purpose too, you fuckin scumbags win, i submit to the bullshit life you've laid out for me

fuck, you say the dnc pedosta leaks were big, why the fuck aren't these swine hangin from a rope then? no matter who you vote for, monsanto(=666 in sumerian gematria), nestle, and all other royalty owned corporations are still going to rape, pillage and poison our bodys and souls

those who claim rule over me are scum

you fail to mention that your vote is as useless as the dnc and pedosta leaks, at the bottom of the rabbit hole, you are suppoaed to see politics is a hoax,

I have faith in the We The People. In the soverign body of citizens upon which this country was founded. I have faith because the alternative is pessimistic nihilism, which is exactly what they want.

and what is politics? politics is rule, govern-ment translates to control mind, on purpose too, you fuckin scumbags win, i submit to the bullshit life you've laid out for me

In its purest sense, Politics arises as the peaceful competition between the various classes, races, and groups that make up the Commonwealth. That is at least what it should be in theory. Again, you describe the pessimistic view of these things. There are still some good representatives out there, at every level of government. Non corrupt people fighting for a better tomorrow. My hope is with them.

fuck, you say the dnc pedosta leaks were big, why the fuck aren't these swine hangin from a rope then?

Patience. HRC losing was the first step. Trump winning wasn't really a win but it gives us the opportunity to reset the system come 2020, if the work is done now.

no matter who you vote for, monsanto(=666 in sumerian gematria), nestle, and all other royalty owned corporations are still going to rape, pillage and poison our bodys and souls

Only if we pessimistically resign and decide to let them do this evil.

Change comes from the ground up, from the Grassroots. Change comes when millions of People are fed up with the status quo, and make their voices heard. This is happening all across our once proud Republic. On the Left, there is an active movement afoot, lead by Our Revolution, founded in the wake of Bernie's campaign, to take the Democratic Party from these Corporatist traitors. 8 State Parties have already been taken. It's such a threat that the Dem. Party literally stuffed ballots at the California Dem convention to stop Kimberly Ellis from gaining the Chairmanship and thus the 9th State in the name of the People. There is real, citizen driven, People oriented change being attempt in this country, right now, as we speak. And I have faith in it. Come 2020 we will know if it succeeds.

fuck you lost me in your first sentance, fuckin citizens, sovereign and citizen completely contradict eachother, i am done with this, my shit will be deleted by morning, you have my word

If I lost you in my first sentence, then I don't really care. If you don't have the time, and the capability to entertain in your own mind the thoughts of others, even if you disagree with them, then it's not worth engaging with you. Your attitude is toxic.

The kings, queens and princes of the world surely agrre with you regarding my attitude

Pessimism and Nihilism is exactly what they want. We need to fight against these thoughts, fight against them, and fight for a better tomorrow. I do not subscribe to such negativity and defeatism. We will never win this war if we give up now. You need to take a step back and find some joy in life, in the little things, then take another look down the rabbit hole. Pessimistic Nihilism is the whole point of their program...it's what they want the masses to buy into.

more bullshit, carrot at the end of a stick, we always look for hope, we've been looking for it for thousands of years, yet here we are, your right that they want us to feel defeated, but your wrong that they don't want us to have hope either, hope and cricis situations is all they have keeping them afloat

following the hoax that is politics = hope following the hoax that is conspiracies = hope

don't get me wrong, humanity is at war, conspiracies are real, but hope is what keeps the parasitic swine alive

Hope is the light in the darkness. It is the horn in the fog. It is the torch in the cave. Hope for a better tomorrow and a brighter future for our children is essential. Again, you really, really, need to take a step back and try to see the good in life. The love of a family member, the caring of a friend. The inter-human connections that give life meaning. Your form of pessimism plays right into their hands. The Sun will rise.

me loving my grandma didn't stop her from dying of cancer due to corporations like monsanto(666), loving my family didn't stop my great grandpa from dying in ww2 either, how the fuck is love gonna save me in the future?

Love didn't stop your grandparents from dying, just like it didn't stop mine. But their love for you impacted your life and upbringing. My love for my grandparents keeps their memories alive, their names alive. Love for each other, for our fellow man, is the root to the answer that will get us out of this mess. You need to try and see that. Don't let the darkness win your mind, for then you will truly be lost, and a docile piece of their machine.

Hope is the light in the darkness. It is the horn in the fog. It is the torch in the cave.

Amen to that!

Hi, it's morning.

I'm so very confused by your posts my friend. 'No criminal charges were layed so fuck Assange and Wikileaks for wasting all of our time, better to be ignorant and happy rather than aware and sad' - is this your point?

Assange has released a lot of good information. I agree though it’s a bit absurd to think that (the dems) are the evil bad guys and (Trump and co) are the valiant defenders of justice.

his information has done nothing but confuse minds, snowdens the same, most of us knew this, the rest didn't but they still didn't care once someone official on the news or in the movies(snowden) told then about it, leaks are on purpose

Idk about you but I found a lot of useful information on WL. Have you actually read any of it? Theres applicable information being posted

as far as courts go it's ALL useless

Yeah but you as a person can actually read it and apply what you learned to better protect yourself. Is that useless? What use were you hoping for it to have in court?

protect myself? how the fuck does knowing that no matter what i do i'm tracked on or offline help me protect myself? how does knowing ALL POLITICIONS/ELITES/SCUM/ROYALTY traffick and sacrifice humans help me to protect myself? all it does is pacify the masses, this shits never gonna end, i see that, in the end, i'm glad i can see through it, but my lord, the world is ran by scum

You can see the specifications of the actual protocols they use. The source code is posted in many cases. Have you actually read anything on WikiLeaks?

I have never actually been on wikileaks, but i have seen a lot of discussion about it in these conspiracy forums, and i'd say i've seen enough of that to know nothing has came from anything

monsanto still poisons our food, our governments are still killing people, people are still starving, and so on

Did you honestly expect WikiLeaks to fix the world for you? The information is there if you want to use it, whether to better protect yourself or take up the cause and fix the world yourself.

WikiLeaks is a media organization, and it’s not their fault if you’ve never visited and aren’t able to make use of any of the information they release. Others certainly find value in it.

But hey, you’ve never even visited their website, so I can only assume all of this is lost on you. We live in the Information Age, take advantage and learn something before you’re replaced by a robot.

This is the correct answer. This place has been targeted by shills, and they all hate WL for obvious reasons.

We have messages from WikiLeaks to Trump Jr showing they were trying to work with the Trump campaign to boost both groups credibility. Does that not seem questionable at all?

There are plenty of actual regulars here who have legitimate questions regarding what the nature of WL has been since the October disappearance. It really isn't fair to label all of us as shills. I recognize that there is plenty of shilling regarding the subject, and I don't know exactly what to make of that. And I also recognize the validity of what WL has released since. I don't pretend to understand exactly what is going on, but I think blindly trustung WL at this point is a little reckless.

Assange is dead, has been since the internet cut out. His tweets have taken a weird tone since then. I fully believe the Us alphabet soup angencies took him out and put in a body double, and took over everything wikileaks.

I agree that if anything did happen, it was during October 2016. My comment was mostly directed towards the people that think Assange is a Russian plant.

i used to defend WL too... but its a limited hangout they have released nothing of real importance to the big picture. while also gatekeeping who knows how many REAL whistleblowers.

here this explains it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaUSerKvJYE

honestly mate i know it upsetting but ANYONE who gets onto mainstream media is one of them. :(

they world is worse than you thought... we are already fucked. just save yourself and go dark till the moment is right.

peace

If WL is a LH, it didn't become that until after October 2016 when Assange's internet was cut. The DNC and Podesta leaks were major blows to the HRC campaign, and Wikileaks was doing good work then. I think something happened to Assange because of that.

nah think about it.... they had to think of a way to end the psyop before people started saying... hey why doesn't ever release anything about. xx x x x they can't have it go on forever. you'll never see him again.

I dunno, man, I find it kinda hard to believe Wikileaks only had damaging information on Hillary during this 2016 campaign. If an ex-MI6 agent can figure out an entire narrative, what might people have sent to Wikileaks?

And if Wikileaks chose not to divulge that info...

Seems like as of the last two years there has been a shift in Wikileaks behavior. What was once something I admired is now something that seems suspect.

exactly this. selective truth is WORSE than outright lies, simply for its effectiveness in manipulation

I agree.

One of the scarier aspects to WL being potentially compromised is what they might do to leakers and whistleblowers that have damaging information on their backers. If they’re compromised, those people might be found and killed in order to protect the backer.

It's totally legit long standing members^tm that rail against WL. When they are top replies you know this sub is fucking ruined.

/s

Can't you see WikiLeaks dared to commit the greatest crime known to man: dare to even put into question Hillary Clinton's credibility.

Well TBh..wikileaks probably is working with Trump..they're just going after the most powerful people known to humanity who are incontrol of the largest Child Raping Organization's alive..."HollyWood".

And who controls Hollywood?

Sorry dude but it's beyond obvious that Wikileaks has been working on behalf of Russia and Trump for the past couple years. We all saw the direct messages between Wikileaks and Trump Jr. People keep pretending that was just some innocent back and forth and yet wikileaks didn't reach out to any other campaign. Nor did they tell them what and when to push stories.

Wikileaks lied about Russia being a source for them. They've said "yeah we can't tell you who the source is but it's definitely not Russia. Seth who? Seth Rich? I dunno man, not Russia though." Too bad Papadopulous knew Russia had stolen emails months before wikileaks dropped them for Russia.

Remember the pussy grabbing tape? Literally 1 hour after that tape came out, wikileaks scrambled to their computers and released a bunch of Podesta emails. Oh thanks wikileaks, what a desperate attempt to soften the blow for Trump. Julian has also said they never sit on information or time their releases. Yeah well that's a lie too.

All you have to do is just look at their Twitter and it's obvious that they spend all their time sucking Trump and Putins dick and shitting on their enemies. Wikileaks even bad mouthed the Panama papers because they mentioned Putin. What a joke. A company all for transparency talking shit about the Panama papers.

Wikileaks doesn't give a fuck abo It transparency. All they care about is furthering an agenda. And that agenda is pro Putin and pro Trump.

They can’t and they won’t. Notice how all the posts attacking WikiLeaks also have more upvotes than the posts calling out their bullshit. Especially evident when you go down a chain of comments.

It’s almost as if there is a group of people paid to be here and downvote the “wrong” ideas and upvote that WikiLeaks is just Russia in disguise.

(By the way, if you actually listen to the audio, what does it say? "When you're famous, women let you do anything. Read that carefully and think about it.)

Like how women let Weinstein do anything?

Did Weinstein say that or do that? Actions speak louder than words.

If it's the latter you can leave this dscussion about WL and go somewhere else please.

Nope. I’ll address what I choose, and you can either respond or ignore it. If that bothers you, maybe you should consider taking your own advice about going somewhere else.

This is a thread about WikiLeaks.

That is somewhat true, however your post included a comment that I felt like addressing. If this was just about WikiLeaks, why are you trying to defend Trump’s statement? If you wanted to post about something else, maybe you should have posted it elsewhere? At any time you can choose to simply not reply, just like I can choose to address any part of your post that I want.

I don’t see how, and I’ll point out that most people call them parentheses, that changes anything. You made a comment defending that statement, and that’s what I chose to address. Putting your statement in parentheses doesn’t magically make it immune to being criticized.

i think its a fair point, do you want to concede that the predator saying his victim 'lets' him do it is not really consent?

What, some women fucked weinstein for the promise of fame? Seems consensual to me.

Didn’t you know they never would have made their millions if they didn’t fuck him!?! Rape!

Your right on in your assessment. Unfortunately folks are victims of partisan politics and MSM. Assuming that these folks who now bash WL are actual people and not shills or bots, I find it amazing that democrats would be so staunch in their political views to fail to recognize that their very own party denied their base the choice of candidates. I'm appalled at what the DNC leaks revealed. Absolutely appalled. Our vote is sacred. It's the only gd power we little people have. Democrats, of all people, should be propping up WL's for ripping down the false illusion of choice that we were fed to believe.

What about the Satanic pedophiles that rule the world? Assange gave us proof of that, too.

Now I am reading posts here in which people do not undertand why Assange wants to deal with the enemies of the Satanic pedophiles.

Don’t engage this piece of shit. Anyone who believes the Russia bullshit is either paid or a fucking idiot. The same type of person who would believe the Iraq war was a legitimate conflict

I like how you state that it's "beyond obvious," in order to remove the burden of proof, because you have no proof of your claim, just conjecture.

Sorry dude but it's beyond obvious that Wikileaks has been working on behalf of Russia and Trump for the past couple years.

lol no

The opposite has been proven. Clinton invented Russia-gate to deflect attention away from herself. END OF STORY.

Oh cool did she invent the criminal investigation and the 4 criminal indictments too?

Yes

That's fuckin hilarious. So all of this is made up. Manafort and Papadopulous and Flynn weren't actually criminally indicted for lying to the FBI.

Manafort was guilty because he was working for the Clinton's and the Podesta group, moron.

He was involved with money laundering to Russia. Trumps criminal campaign manager was criminally involved with Russia. How fun.

"Can we please just talk about Hillary instead of Trump? Stop being so mean to Trump. Hillary Hillary Hillary."

Wikileaks working for Trump is completley relevent to every single thing wikileaks puts out. Throwing a bunch of links at me about how lame Hillary is on the other hand, is completely irrelevant to this post.

Wikileaks works for Russia. Russia supports Trump. That's why wikileaks works for both of them.

It's obvious dude. Wikileaks sits around shit posting about every perceived enemy of Trump and Putin. They just released the pdf of the new book about Trump and then quickly deleted it. Why are they trying to hurt Trumps enemies? Why did they help his campaign? Why do they attack anyone who talks shit about Russia. You Clearly haven't been paying attention or you're just pretending they aren't blatantly working for your side.

We already know they will release mundane shit to appear impartial. That's what they tried to do with Trump Jr. Absolutely nothing interesting was in that Russia release.

I bet you think WaPo and the NYT work for democrats right?

The mere fact that the DNC favored Clinton and wanted to get the primaries over with as quickly as possible was damaging enough. Especially when Wikileaks shitposts about it non stop. Did they shitpost about the Russia release non stop? Did they push it over and over again for a year straight?

Operation mockingbird is about the CIA 40 years ago. Guess whos in charge of the CIA? Trump and the director he appointed.

I think it's hilarious that you think the deep state could read the future and knew when Wikileaks would drop the podesta emails. And for some reason they would drop the pussy grabbing tape before The wikileaks drop. Which makes absolutely no sense. The all powerful deep state wiuldnhave released the tape after the wikileaks drop if they could read the future. That way everyone would shift their focus to Trump.

When did wikileaks announce they were about to release the podesta emails? I'd love to see that announcement.

And thanks for Sputnik news article you linked. I love reading what Russian propaganda has to say on this issue.

thanks for Sputnik news article you linked. I love reading what Russian propaganda has to say on this issue.

these guys make it so easy.

Why didn't Wikileaks work with Obama or Hillary? Isn't it strange that it did not happen?

Very strange that Wikileaks would want to establish ties with Russia and Trump. Lol.

What would you do if you were Assange?

What would you do if you were Assange?

do whatever my burly russian 'bodyguards' want so they dont toss me off the balcony

LOL. He is in the Ecuadorian embassy.

Is that the best response you can come up with?

You realize that one side are Satanic pedophiles and the other side are not. Assange is making nice with the side that are not the Satanic pedophiles.

Perhaps, you would make the opposite choice.

why do you think assange 'asked' for russian bodyguards

LOL. Should he ask for FBI or CIA bodyguards?

Because everyone knows WikiLeaks has been compromised for a long ass time.

Wow, this is news to me - got any links or evidence to back that up?

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7oxa2t/why_does_wl_trigger_rconspiracy/dsd1ldy

long ass time

When were they compromised?

Since November 2016 ish.

A lot say since 2010-2012 but that's bullshit. Last time anyone could verify Assange being alive was October 25 2016. We also haven't had his PGP signature since then. If you'd like more information check the sidebar over at /r/whereisassange. Some people theorize he's dead, some people still believe he's alive, but almost everyone agrees he has zero control over WikiLeaks anymore. Does that mean for certain it's taken over by the elite and used as their tool? No, but it does mean it's compromised.

~ October 16th 2016, when Assange's internet was severed at the Ecuadorian embassy in London. I'm extremely surprised to see so many comments asking 'how so?' yet nobody seems to recall the ridiculously peculiar events around this time regarding wikileaks and Assange. It's honesty sad how quick people forget things.

2010-2012 somewhere

Because they care more about the source of the leaks rather than the content.

Apparently big bad Russia is behind every blade of grass. Too bad for them most of the world has moved on from that Cold War mentality.

Russia is no where near the threat they once were.

If you're willing to discount their efforts towards peaceful settlements and respecting the sovereignty of other nations at a time when there is nothing but naked belligerence and aggression getting peddled on the other side, perhaps.

They are certainly a threat to our utter lack of ethics and smug hypocrisy and growing in stature in the eyes of the rest of the world on that particular front.

It's not the sources we're concerned with, it's the motivation. Why was WikiLeaks trying to work closely with the Trump campaign? Why were they secretly trying to boost their and Trump's credibility? Why didn't they release the RNC emails they had?

They actually worked very loosely with the Trump campaign, pretty much only for the purpose of promoting their leaks and nothing else.

Loosely? They were trying to work with Trump's campaign to boost both groups images. Their credibility really took a hit when those Twitter messages came out. That whole exchange confirmed what many of us suspected.

How close?

Nu uh! The news media told me! And hating Russia/trump is so cool right now get with it. /s

if you get someone against WL in r/conspiracy it is a shill. fin

Lol

One has to be skeptic at all times, you can entertain the notion without accepting the totality of it all.

You just had to abbreviate WikiLeaks to WL didn't you.. To fit in with the theme of abbreviating words on reddit in the hope a large amount of the audience won't get what you're talking about. A handful of upvotes on your failing post is as far you'll get.

I've never read the Washington Post and for the entire world outside of America, they don't either so it's not a "common abbreviation" like you proclaim. I have also nevwr heard anyone abbreviate WikiLeaks to WL so again, not a "common abbreviation". An a clear example is TM for Trade Mark, that's a common abbreviation, however you don't get to dupe reddit users with those so carry on trying to justify your BS.

Looks like you don't read it either judging by the miniscule amount of upvotes your shitpost is receiving. Ps, thanks for brigading my comments, it's good to know when you really hit a nerve.

Because Wikileaks conspired with the Trump campaign.

This comment is lifted from the Wikileaks AMA.

Theres a theory Wikileaks is ctrl'd by the FSB/SVR and are useful idiots whose dissent is being capitalized on

NYTimes huge story 9/2016: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/world/europe/wikileaks-julian-assange-russia.html

• 10/26/10 - WikiLeaks ready to drop bombshell on Russia

• 11/01/10 - Russia's FSB to Wikileaks: We Can Destroy You

• 1/20/11 - Assange gets Russian Visa

• 1/25/12 - WL founder Julian Assange's TV show to be aired on Russian channel

• 4/6/16 - WikiLeaks: US Gov't Behind Panama Leaks to Attack Putin

• 8/8/16 - http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/08/opinion/can-we-trust-julian-assange-and-wikileaks.html

Best theory breakdowns:

1. https://medium.com/war-is-boring/has-wikileaks-been-infiltrated-by-russian-spies-b876a8bc035a#.ipfyxsr9p
2. https://20committee.com/2016/06/11/edward-snowden-is-a-russian-agent/
3. https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/07/edward-snowden-is-a-russian-agent.html
4. http://20committee.com/2015/01/12/snowden-and-russian-intelligence-an-update/
5. http://20committee.com/2015/08/31/wikileaks-is-a-front-for-russian-intelligence/
6. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130910/13145824474/former-nsa-officer-wikileaks-is-front-russian-intelligence-snowdens-probably-spy.shtml

WL threatens to leak Russian info in Oct/Nov 2010 http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2010/1026/WikiLeaks-ready-to-drop-a-bombshell-on-Russia.-But-will-Russians-get-to-read-about-it

Reddit had HUGE thread on it: https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/dwolw/wikileaks_ready_to_drop_a_bombshell_on_russia_but/?

Moscow sent VERY SERIOUS threats to WL and they haven't said a SINGLE bad word about Russia since:

http://foreignpolicy.com/2010/11/01/russias-fsb-to-wikileaks-we-could-destroy-you/

http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2028283,00.html

So far Russia has had no official response. But on Wednesday, an official at the Center for Information Security of the FSB, Russia's secret police, gave a warning to WikiLeaks that showed none of the tact of the U.S. reply to the Iraq revelations. "It's essential to remember that given the will and the relevant orders, [WikiLeaks] can be made inaccessible forever," the anonymous official told the independent Russian news website LifeNews.

Did Wikileaks get cold feet?

WL never hesitates to embarrass NATO countries

What changed in 2010?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/11/30/moscows-bid-to-blow-up-wikileaks-russians-play-by-different-rules.html

Why in Dec 2010 did Medvedev suggest Assange be nominated a Nobel Prize?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reception_of_WikiLeaks#Russia

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/dec/09/julian-assange-nobel-peace-prize

Reddit had a thread on this https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ej3ks/russia_calls_for_wikileaks_founder_julian_assange/?

"Public and non-governmental organisations should think of how to help him," the source from inside president Dmitry Medvedev's office told Russian news agencies. Speaking in Brussels, where Medvedev was attending a Russia-EU summit yesterday , the source went on: "Maybe, nominate him as a Nobel Prize laureate."

Ever wondered how/why Assange got a RT talkshow in 2012 After he threatened to expose Russian secret documents?

How did Assange have connections to house Snowden in Russia?

http://www.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-told-snowden-to-stay-in-russia-2014-5

Was WL started as a Russian OP?

I say no

Has it become one?

Looks that way

Even the Saudi leaks are looking a little more suspicious

http://www.newsbred.com/shia-sunni-angle-india-and-wikileaks

Saudis are a Western ally. Iran is pro-Russia. Look at the Oil Price War b/w Russia and KSA

Who leaked TPP? Who is TPP not including?

Russia & China

*Who leaked the Sony pictures files?

WL

Theres a consistent anti-Western tint here

Why did WL post how CIA spies travel?

http://news.discovery.com/human/wikileaks-publishes-cia-tips-for-traveling-spies-141222.htm

Boris Nemtsov met an ambassador on Russia-US ties & WL reveals it https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09MOSCOW1497_a.html Then assassinated years later

Malware servers from DNC hack linked to Bundestag hack via Russian intel: https://twitter.com/pwnallthethings/status/756892523885240322

There are Phillip Agee vibes from Assange/Wikileaks/Snowden

WL doxxed John Brennan's family http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/21/wikileaks-doxxes-cia-chief-s-wife-and-daughters.html#pq=T9jQM0

WL & Anon twitter accts infighting over WL constant support for anti-western talking points:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks_forum/status/666337141962706949

Anon accts shames WL for this tweet:

https://twitter.com/YourAnonCentral/status/666076431433252865

https://twitter.com/YourAnonCentral/status/666035812887339012

Anon retweets suggesting that wikileaks toes a distinctly Pro-Kremlin line:

http://imgur.com/a/5a8u1

http://imgur.com/9CfqrDi

https://twitter.com/cjcmichel/status/757016594031730688

Fmr WL worker Daniel Domscheit-Berg fell out w/ Assange & had problem w/ the only Anti-Western views

• http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/wikileaks-spokesman-quits-the-only-option-left-for-me-is-an-orderly-departure-a-719619.html

• http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wikileaks-motivations_us_57a2575ee4b04414d1f365b1

WL scrubbed docs: http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/wikileaks-syria-files-syria-russia-bank-2-billion/

Assange protege Sigurdur Thordarson was an FBI informant

www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-wikileaks-mole-20140106

Thordarson accosts Assange:

https://twitter.com/singi201/status/382925421123489792

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rp1oe9

...WL fights for Justice but still the Editor In Chief of WL is running from Justice for those women in Sweden, he's breaking laws by breaking he's Bail Condition, WL claim they have no polticial ties to any government/or political party and im not saying they do, but it is strange that WikiLeaks host's an TV Show on Russia Today, which is operated by money from the Russian Federation, and still no files about Russia has been reveled, nor Ecuador or Venezuela,, WL has published information, Some here say that documents revealed by WL showed War Crimes, that it self is partly true, 95% of the data that WikiLeaks has published such as the Iraq and Afghan War logs, Diplomatic Cables don't show anything illegal or wrong doing, the rest 5% maby 1-2 % of that show something that's illegal, the rest might show some wrongdoing, perhaps not illegal, So Yeah what Bradley Manning did was illegal that can't be debated, did he get the treatment he deserved ? Hell no, Should he have been charged like he was? Yes, why? He revelaed hundreds of thousunds of classified information that did nothing but embarress the US, If he would have leaked only information that showed act of War Crimes, then i don't think he would be in the some positions as he is in today, but though getting a sentance from 136 years to 35 years roughly,...

Fmr WL worker finds ties w/ the Russians suspicious!

Why did Snowden say this when he got asylum?

https://wikileaks.org/Statement-by-Edward-Snowden-to.html

Yet even in the face of this historically disproportionate aggression, countries around the world have offered support and asylum. These nations, including Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, and Ecuador have my gratitude and respect for being the first to stand against human rights violations carried out by the powerful rather than the powerless. By refusing to compromise their principles in the face of intimidation, they have earned the respect of the world. It is my intention to travel to each of these countries to extend my personal thanks to their people and leaders.*

Russia? Venezuela? Bolivia? Nicaragua? Ecuador? Bastions of freedom?

Snowden has 11 days he cant account for when in Hong Kong, but at the Russian Embassy

One of the FIRST stories about the NSA docs didn't come from Greenwald/Poitras, but the South China Morning Sea.. His campaign about domestic intelligence integrity started by revealing chinese espionage?

CIA Agent Bob Baer (inspiration for Syriana) thinks Snowden flipped when he was working in Geneva

Collusion w/ RT & WL stories? https://twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/789992650178867200

DHS and ODNI: Guccifer 2.0/DNC Leaks work w/ WL

1. If WL is getting info they don't share, they lie about their mission

2. If WL is a Russian intel front, they get free intel from leakers & whistleblowers under the guise that WL will help them but hoard it instead

3. WL is allowed to curate disinformation via edited docs & fake narratives w/o context under the guise of "journalism"

If WL was honest about bias, no one would debate WL as an objective source of info. They filter the narrative they want to push. Always ask: "What do they have to gain from sharing this info with you?"

Because Wikileaks conspired with the Trump campaign.

Bologna. The Democratic National Committee and Hillary For America cheated, bragged about it, got caught, lost to Donald Trump, blamed everyone but themselves and have spent more than a year destabilizing the USA. There's no organic constituency for cheaters, braggarts, losers, whiners, or enemies of civilization.

bologna

We've seen Julians DMs dude. We know.

This is reality now, change the script.

Oh, that. Apparently you were in the establishment press's mind cage that day. Never mind though, here's how that turned out:

13 Nov 2017: https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/930234452139298816

Full text of alleged DMs with context provides a different reading, unsurprisingly.

Here's the misleading bit in The Atlantic:

Nov 13, 2017: https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/545738/

“If we publish them it will dramatically improve the perception of our impartiality,” WikiLeaks explained. “That means that the vast amount of stuff that we are publishing on Clinton will have much higher impact, because it won’t be perceived as coming from a ‘pro-Trump’ ‘pro-Russia’ source.”

And here is the record corrected from Trump Jr's e-mail:

“If we publish them it will dramatically improve the perception of our impartiality,” WikiLeaks explained. “That means that the vast amount of stuff that we are publishing on Clinton will have much higher impact, because it won’t be perceived as coming from a ‘pro-Trump’ ‘pro-Russian’ source, which the Clinton campaign is constantly slandering us with.”

Took us less than six hours to unmask the deception.

You must still be in the alt reich mind cocoon.

“If we publish them it will dramatically improve the perception of our impartiality,”

Why would the need to "improve the perception of our impartiality"?

Because they're not impartial and coordinated with the Trump campaign.

Great society Democrat. DNC betrayed me and many others in the quest to appease their corporate overlords. Now the establishment is trying to use the national security apparatus to reverse the election, install Pence and pass TPP anyway. That effort has conveniently distracted their entire herd of bleating sheeple from the real and lasting damage that the establishment has been doing to our economy, security and polity for 'lo these many years.

Game over, you lose. Now step away from the corporate teets.

So why do they need to improve the perception of their impartiality?

To increase the validity and impact of what they were leaking. It was to undermind the narrative that HRC was crafting to discredit Wikileaks.

They literally lay it all out in the DM.

Because everyone was (and still is) hand-waving everything they released in 2016 as Russian propaganda so they can pretend that they don't have to actually think about how corrupt the DNC/Clinton campaign was.

You're arguing with a tiptopmind. Just ignore it and move on.

Everything and everyone that didn't cheer on Queen Cunt is a Ruskie.

How does that change the situation?

The Atlantic purportedly follows the old style of journalism wherein the reader must trust the integrity of the entire chain of claims from source to publisher.

The author of this article materially edited the source material in order to support her point, the publisher of the article published it despite those material edits to the source material and no retraction has been published.

That puts The Atlantic in company with CNN, CBS and MSNBC: people who owe us a retraction, an explanation and an apology.

Assuming you also missed the destruction of that story:

1. CNN publishes a claim that we cannot test because it is based on source material that is not available to us. MSNBC and CBS publish the same untestable claims. https://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/08/politics/email-effort-give-trump-campaign-wikileaks-documents/index.html

2. Washington Post uses its privileged access to information in order to get the e-mail, then falsifies the claims made by CNN, MSNBC and CBS on the basis that Guccifer 2.0's material was published on DCLeaks before the e-mail offering Guccifer 2.0's material was was sent. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/email-offering-trump-campaign-wikileaks-documents-referred-to-information-already-public/2017/12/08/61dc2356-dc37-11e7-a841-2066faf731ef_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpwikileaks-129pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.30de247a2acb

3. CNN changes its story.

4. Glenn Greenwald joins Julian Assange in calling for some accountability from CNN/CBS/MSNBC. https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/

5. Adam Carter falsifies a second claim in CNN's article: that the material in question was published by WikiLeaks. http://g-2.space/cnn/

In an effort to prevent the public from discovering what they're up to, the establishment has spent a lot of time and money trying to discredit WikiLeaks and they've gotten nowhere.

It's perfectly obvious by now that order to discredit WikiLeaks, the establishment will have to release exculpatory claims that--like the WikiLeaks--the public is able to test for itself. Since they're not doing the perfectly obvious thing one must assume that they don't think that releasing more testable claims will help them. I suspect that they're right about that.

I'm asking how the piece you added changes the implication of the email exchange? WikiLeaks was still trying to work directly with team Trump to improve both groups images.

It doesn't, but they keep on the same old narrative that WL is some pure bastion of integrity when the reality is they are as biased as any other media corporation.

Both of you would do well to internalize the fact of an organized conspiracy to deprive you of information. Here's a long form article about it:

2018-01-03: https://theintercept.com/2018/01/03/my-life-as-a-new-york-times-reporter-in-the-shadow-of-the-war-on-terror/

I was sitting in the nearly empty restaurant of the Westin Hotel in Alexandria, Virginia, getting ready for a showdown with the federal government that I had been trying to avoid for more than seven years. The Obama administration was demanding that I reveal the confidential sources I had relied on for a chapter about a botched CIA operation in my 2006 book, “State of War.” I had also written about the CIA operation for the New York Times, but the paper’s editors had suppressed the story at the government’s request. It wasn’t the only time they had done so.

It wouldn't matter if the entire world's governments united in a propaganda campaign to discredit WL, because they are still biased, their own actions (and lies) prove it.

The entire global establishment has just spent a year trying it's damnedest to discredit WikiLeaks. They burned NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NPR, BBC, The Guardian and many other propaganda outlets in the process and an exponentially growing number of people--including US voters--are newly aware of what they've been up to. That growth curve will accelerate in the wake of Mueller's investigation and those that will follow from it.

Except it does, the key is the part convienently ignored. "which the Clinton campaign is constantly slandering us with". Meaning that they are defending themselves from AN ESTABLISHED LIE hence the word slander. The ironic part as that you are using this quote to support that same lie.

You know this sub has been taken over when your comment gets downvoted like this...sad

I knew it was coming.

yeah unfortunately, its pretty predictable now

They’ve spent much more than a year destabilizing the US.

Plenty of blame to go around there.

This is a fantastic post with lots of content but this won't fit the OP's agenda so it'll get downvoted.

Regardless, I Love WL, Snowden, Manning, Panama/Paradise Papers, etc More of all of this please. Also Assange is a Hero

wikileaks didnt like panama papers. they smeared putin :(

big no no

Shitpost extraordinaire. Off the bat using the NYT as a source.

Ofcourse he should have used 4chan instead right?

Everyone knows that random pictures marked up in MSPaint and posted by anonymous 4channers is the most reputable evidence imaginable.

No but you everybody knows that the NYT is FULL OF OOZYING SHIT.

This is true.

That is addressing one of the points you made.

And convienently ignoring then rest, almost as if you have no real response.

The huge amount of upvotes on a genuine shit comment hidden within a heavily downvoted comment really makes me sad.

Interesting you've confirmed yourself as someone "not of this sub" as that is a clear talking point when you have no actual response. I see you have a lot of your friends coming in to upvote your posts trashing this sub. The question now remains where are you coming from and why are you here?

Interesting you've confirmed yourself as someone "not of this sub"

And when did I do that?

The same time the guy you initially responded to said that "he should have used 4chan instead".

He did use 4chan...

Clearly you never read the article before posting it as "evidence" that Snowden is a Russian agent, because it clearly is the opposite, actually.

Yes, because Snowden is an agent for every government other than Russia. Yes.

Your reading comprehension clearly needs work. The opposite he is referring to is of the article being "evidence" not of Snowden being an agent hence the pronoun "it" not "he". And even it it was he how is the opposite of being a Russian agent "being an agent for every government other than Russia". This whole comment makes no sense. But it will probably be upvoted by "sane" people who are here now for some reason.

Everyone keeps pushing this "Wikileaks was gonna drop something on Russia, but didn't" meme, but they actually DID put out the release. I don't understand why this keep getting repeated.

It was a very weak release, and the way they framed it was a lot softer than other recent leaks. It was shown in the Kushner emails that Wikileaks was looking to make itself 'look' less partisan/compromised.

I truly think both sides are as bad as each other, and any huge post with articles from the past 8 years can make a point and sway a position. To say the Russian's are more evil than the Americans is a stretch, to say any nation is more savage than the other is silly. All of the information released by Wikileaks is credible fact, and has not been disproved - how on earth is that not a beautiful thing?

America, China, Russia all of them are the same, systems of oppression with governments that suppress information. That being said i'm sure Wikileaks do withhold some information, and honestly maybe they have ever reason to. Perhaps they know the true unbelievable extent of the problem and are attempting to topple the worst of the worst to begin with...

We just don't know the answer, and with that in mind we should just take everything they release with a grain of salt - we don't need this tribalistic bullshit of country blaming country for corruption that everyone is guilty of...

Hi ShareBlue!! GTFO HERE, YOU FUCKING SHILL

Hi, I'm not share blue. Be nice.

Whatever you are I hope you die. The world needs less of you TMOR/Shareblue "people" in the gene pool

I said be nice! That's the opposite of being nice!

Why do you think there has to be some sort of nefarious motive for Wikileaks exposing the Democrats' crimes when their founder has been trapped in an embassy for years due to the actions of Clinton and Obama? If a foreign political party had me framed for rape and would torture me to death if they apprehended me I'd be doing what I could to destroy them as well.

So you admit there's a bias there?

Why wouldn't there be? If a political party in Australia framed you for rape and would torture you to death in a black site would you have a bias against them?

As for the content, I don't think that's biased. Wikileaks hasn't released anything untrue, has it?

I'm just pointing out that they, according to your analysis, are a biased outlet. That's all.

Every outlet is biased. But the bias is irrelevant when the information presented is factual.

Everybody is biased all the time. This is a fact.

So why the hell are you trying to play lawyer here?

EDIT: sorry for the aggresion, I'm in a bad mood today. But the point stands.

Because I'm tired of people telling me WikiLeaks is an unbiased bastion of free information.

If their head, Assange, is using his power as the head of WikiLeaks to try and change political outcomes for his favor, then he's by definition not unbiased.

And we should be allowed to question the info that comes out of WL and look for motivations and potential for misinformation.

But we do question the information that comes out of WL's.

As far as I know they haven't released any misinformation yet.

And some of us see their actions as timed to cause damage to one campaign over another.

If we're supposed to be upset that CNN had a person on payroll who helped a political campaign have a leg up, then we should be equally upset when WL has a person on payroll who helped a political campaign have a leg up.

I'm not from the US so my perspective might be a bit different.

I just want the truth and so far WL hasn't lied to me.

Is it a lie to withhold truth or is it just telling falsehoods?

fuck...

It isn't lying to withhold the truth. It is lying if you withhold the truth to give people the impression that things are different than they really are.

The real story is what's in the emails. Whine about Russia all you want, Bernie got cheated and this wild goose chase is a distraction from more important issues.

This entire post is all heresay. Swing and a miss.

Just reads like some copy paste shill propaganda Wikileaks did not work with the Trump campaign there is no evidence of this Assange even admitted to this.

TLDR: It's Russia! Not the CIA!

this should be an OPsubmission. saving this for posting in all these 'wikileaks has a 100% proven track/accuracy record' submissions and posts

It does have a 100% proven track record...

Wikileaks represents truth and transparency. Julian Assange has literally given his life and now lives in political exile for this cause. To some people the truth is the enemy, so they go to great lengths to try and discredit the source. This is now why people are yelling that Assange is a Russian agent. Discrediting the source is the oldest trick in the book and distracts people from the actual content of the message.

There is going to be a lot of noise on this post, OP.

You are absolutely correct on all of this.

Wikileaks should be exalted in this sub...but no, they took a swipe at the queen, and so for this, they must be astroturfed into oblivion.

It's lame conspiracy territory. WL is a fake psyop that reveals nothing the real old-time conspiracy users knew a decade ago. No different than our man (actor) Snowden. His revelations were leaked years before and the media looked away.

Also, propping up the fake Russia/Trump narrative to create more boogiemen.

You asked.

Someone made this comment in a thread in /new, I think it's relevant

Here is the AMA from last year.

A.M.A. with wikileaks last year?

"The allegations that we have colluded with Trump, or any other candidate for that matter, or with Russia, are just groundless and false. We receive information anonymously, through an anonymous submission platform. We do not need to know the identity of the source, neither do we want to know it.

The intention of the source is irrelevant in our editorial process. Every source of every journalist has an intention and an agenda, may it be hidden or clear. Requesting the intention from our sources would firstly likely jeopardize their anonymity, and secondly form a bias in our understanding of the information we received.

Their authenticity and their relevance to the public or the historical record are the only preconditions for us to publish the documents we are given. "

Here are the emails that Don Jr. posted himself.

“Hey Don. We have an unusual idea,” Wikileaks wrote on October 21, 2016. “Leak us one or more of your father’s tax returns.” Wikileaks then laid out three reasons why this would benefit both the Trumps and Wikileaks. One, The New York Times had already published a fragment of Trump’s tax returns on October 1; two, the rest could come out any time “through the most biased source (e.g. NYT/MSNBC).”

It is the third reason, though, Wikileaks wrote, that “is the real kicker.” “If we publish them it will dramatically improve the perception of our impartiality,” Wikileaks explained. “That means that the vast amount of stuff that we are publishing on Clinton will have much higher impact, because it won’t be perceived as coming from a ‘pro-Trump’ ‘pro-Russia’ source.” It then provided an email address and link where the Trump campaign could send the tax returns, and adds, “The same for any other negative stuff (documents, recordings) that you think has a decent chance of coming out. Let us put it out.”

So, that's why people are at least dubious of Wikileaks.

Not to mention the time Julian outed a bunch of protesters in Belarus by giving his friend and friend of Russia Israel Shamir the diplomatic cables early.

In December 2010, Israel Shamir, a WikiLeaks content aggregator in Russia, traveled to Belarus with a cache of unredacted American diplomatic cables concerning Belarus. (At the time, these unredacted cables were not available online.) He met Lukashenko’s chief of staff, Vladimir Makei, handed over the documents to the government, and stayed in the country to observe the presidential elections. Lukashenko pronounced himself the winner on Dec. 19, 2010, with nearly 80 percent of the vote. His nearest opponent, the leading dissident Andrei Sannikov, is now serving out a five-year prison sentence and is reportedly being tortured.

The same month that Shamir was in Minsk on behalf of WikiLeaks, the American left-wing journal Counterpunch published an article by Shamir in which he extolled Lukashenko (“The president of Belarus … walks freely among his people”), derided the dictator’s opponents (“The pro-Western ‘Gucci’ crowd,” Shamir called them), and credited WikiLeaks with exposing America’s “agents” in Belarus (“WikiLeaks has now revealed how … undeclared cash flows from the U.S. coffers to the Belarus ‘opposition’ ”).

He has a Jewish-sounding name, but Shamir is a dangerous anti-Semite. Will Yakowicz, who interviewed Shamir in Moscow for a Tablet Magazine profile, concluded that he is an anti-Semitic Holocaust-doubter. An exhaustive investigation carried out by the Norwegian anti-racist magazine Monitor found that Shamir has a long history of association with European fascist parties. He has changed his name several times, published anti-Semitic articles, and falsely claimed to be a correspondent for the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. Shamir was also in the habit of offering himself as a speaker at white-supremacist conventions in return for a small fee, daily expenses, flight tickets, and hotel accommodations for him and his wife. (WikiLeaks has since tried to distance itself from Shamir, but recent revelations by a former WikiLeaks staffer suggest that he was an influential part of the organization.)

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/79749/wikitargeted

Why? Because the Shareblue bots want the casual visitor to assume the masses now hate WL. A lot of people follow the herd without thinking, so just by seeing the seemingly negative reaction to them allows people to close their mind to them without using any logic to arrive at that point.

Julian Assange has the perspective regarding US global hegemony that his detractors seem to discount. Since the fall of the Soviet Union the US has been on a rampage of murder and destruction unmatched by anyone else at that time, to where there are now more refugees than even at the end of WWII.

If people could let that sink in, they would understand why WL has a distinctly anti US bias, or in the case of Trump, that which damages or reduces the US ability to continue global wars is better for the planet.

You guys don't get it. Its too easy for Americans to block out the genocide and war crimes that have been going on and focus on the media agenda of the day.

Shills and Dems in denial. But mostly shills.

Democrats loved him when he was exposing republican dirt

Because someone took over it in October 2016. I used to think it was the Russians but now I'm leaning towards Israel.

1. No proof it was taken over
2. Assange was seen on balcony in person giving PoL
   do you people just come up with random shit and just hold onto it like its the truth?

You have to admit the events in October were definitely suspect... I assume you know the details since you're refuting his claim.

Just because Assange is alive doesn't mean WL isn't compromised. And there has been a noticeable change in tone from WL that seems to indicate some kind of change in October 2016.

Because this place is loaded with shills who want to prop up the Russia/Trump thing.

People support the NWO globalist agenda. What country do you live in? How is that agenda working for you?

I wonder what these people will think when they have to dodge ex-ISIS members on their way to Starbucks.

'm not sure why anyone who believes there's some connection between WL, Trump and Russia is even on /r/conspiracy

Because those people have a theory about a conspiracy, I imagine.

You can be a conspiracy without being an all-powerful one.

Besides, "the MSM" is only pushing the story if you think Fox News doesn't count as mainstream media. I think it does, and "the MSM" isn't really a coherent thing anymore.

Because wiki leaks represents the truth and the shills and Astro turfing assholes. It’s been slandered by the media and paid shills online so we can’t have a uniform front

I like, and always have liked, Wikileaks. I think they are useful and play a role we need for true freedom.

I don't like, and have always disliked, Assange. I think he's a massive narcissist who gets off on his own fame (when not taking advantage of women).

As Wikileaks has become more and more synonymous with Assange, basically now acting purely as his microphone for the agenda he wants to put out, I have liked Wikileaks less and less.

Because this sub has been flipped to establishment in the past 8 weeks.

Wikileaks has an agenda, but they do release actual primary documents to the public. Why weren't the RNC emails leaked to the public?

I don't trust Assange, ever since Epstein friend and lawyer, Alan Dershkowitz, was once a part of his legal team. (link)

I did not know Dershowitz was ever related to Assange. Interesting. Yet another reason not to like or trust either of them, imo.

corrupted around 2010-2012. since then they are just a propaganda mouth piece for certain states that have assanges nuts in a vice

It's tweets like these that make Assange lose credibility:

PanamaPapers Putin attack was produced by OCCRP which targets Russia & former USSR and was funded by USAID & Soros.

Why is he raising suspicion about this leak, when he claims that leaks are mostly good because people can disseminate the information for themselves.?

And why does he care about protecting Putin? Since when was Putin a figure that should be defended. Even Gorbachev dislikes what Putin is doing to Russia.

This sub has changed, and that's fine because things change, but it now seems to always just be people arguing & downvoting for wrong-think. I don't even know what the current wrong-think is in this sub because it has changed so much.

Now we have to defend Julian Assange? Wow. If someone has evidence he is not a good guy, by all means comment with that information and allow myself/others to decide. But lately the comments are so snide and condescending and just downvoted to oblivion. Smells fake.

I love how they think he's a Putin puppet from Australia, really takes a mental gymnast for that one.

People only care about what supports their narrative even when presented evidence of the contrary. People are just arrogant and willfully ignorant.

Because there are a lot of disinfo agents and bots within this sub. Sorry, but I just don't believe anyone who is into conspiracies isn't a fan of Julian Assange and WikiLeaks considering they are the epitome of getting the truth out there.

The one issue I have with Julian Assange is that he denies there was a conspiracy with 9/11. How anyone can look at all the evidence and think there's no fuckery afoot, is highly suspect.

why? because they are being paid to discredit wikileaks plain and simple.

You can see the specifications of the actual protocols they use. The source code is posted in many cases. Have you actually read anything on WikiLeaks?

The entire global establishment has just spent a year trying it's damnedest to discredit WikiLeaks. They burned NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NPR, BBC, The Guardian and many other propaganda outlets in the process and an exponentially growing number of people--including US voters--are newly aware of what they've been up to. That growth curve will accelerate in the wake of Mueller's investigation and those that will follow from it.

Whatever you are I hope you die. The world needs less of you TMOR/Shareblue "people" in the gene pool

I don’t see how, and I’ll point out that most people call them parentheses, that changes anything. You made a comment defending that statement, and that’s what I chose to address. Putting your statement in parentheses doesn’t magically make it immune to being criticized.