Numeric coincidences surrounding MH370
1 2018-01-10 by reputable_opinion
on 3/7 (GMT)
flight 370 disappeared
on a 3700km flight plan (CNN)
at 37000' altitude (flightaware)
this was 4560 days after sept 11, 2001.
4560 divides evenly into 374 - 1 = 411
411 is the number to call (at least in USA and Canada) to find someone, AKA directory assistance. search 411 and see the results you get.
'411 n. Slang Information or knowledge, especially when acquired by word of mouth.'
It's an incredible coincidence, almost unbelievable, isn't it?
37 comments
2 bradok 2018-01-10
If the math checks out, then yes. That said, the part I think is flimsiest for your theory is the following:
Having to throw in a random -1 to make it fit kinda makes it less impressive, but that said the other numbers are indeed interesting. If this is all true, then what we probably saw with MH370 was a ritual mass sacrifice...these numbers don't just happen. And they don't just happen so the plane can be captured and used for other purposes.
2 TXROADWARRIOR 2018-01-10
tell that to Euler
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
it was a mistake sorry.. I fixed it.. 374 - 1
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
The “-1” was the issue, not the exponent. Why is it minus one and not plus one?
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
ask wolfram alpha.
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4560
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
Well ya it couldnt be “1 -“, but you shouldn’t have to have the 1 in there at all in order for this to be proper numerology. All of the other numbers have some significance with regard to the event. What does the 1 represent?
I guess it could be 1 plane?
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
I never claimed it was your idea of 'proper numerology' whatever you think that might be.
Why do you think Wolfram alpha explicitly states 4560 divides into 374-1 then?
the -1 figures strongly in the mathematics that I described above. Euler's relationship also figures with -1. ei*p - 1
Just because you don't see the significance, doesn't mean it isn't significant to someone.
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
Numerology is the idea that numbers have meaning. You can’t claim numerology and then start throwing random numbers in dude. If that were the case, you could pick any significant numbers you want and then find whatever other random numbers you needed to fill in the blanks.
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
I didn't claim 'numerology' and what does that even mean? there are many types of numerology.
you didn't answer my question.. if it's not significant, then why is it shown on wolfram alpha's page for 4560?
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
Because it’s a way of reducing 4560. It’s a power of a prime plus one, it’s an easy way of representing the number. It is significant, but if the flight were any number of different days before or after 9/11 (also a random number) then you could still find another number that would somehow work 37 into it.
Tell ya what, pick a similar number and I’ll show you what I mean.
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
Exactly, the -1 is significant in that it connects 37 and 4560. I'm glad you finally agree.
As for your exercise, show me on wolfram alpha that 16 is connected to 5777.
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
It’s significant because it’s shoehorned in. The -1 shouldn’t be necessary. Why is 37 one of the numbers? Why 4560? And why 1?
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
370 is the flight that went missing. 3/7 was the date.. 3700km was the flight plan.. 37000feet was the altitude reported when it went missing.. that's why 37 is there..
4560 is the number of days passed since sept. 11, 2001..
and the 1? ask a mathematician. wolfram show the same type of equation for their entry of 4560 and other numbers..
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
361 = (5777 - 1) / 16
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
361 is hardly significant, compared with 911, 311. 411 which are associated with other world-scale significant events.
besides, the equation is so banal, whereas a number like 374 is more esoteric, connected 4 times in the same world-scale event.
I think you have to agree that the confluence of coincidences is much more significant than your attempt. I think you inadvertently helped illustrate my case even more.
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
I’m just wondering why the “-1” is there, as I have been. You don’t seem to have an answer, which is fine. I’ll gladly admit you’ve found a more interesting set of numbers, but I wonder if you’ll admit the 1 is shoehorned in?
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
I do have an answer, and you might as well accuse wolfram alpha and Euler of fudging their equations..
why do you think wolfram alpha specifically says 4560 divides 374 - 1?
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
Who’s fudging equations? You clearly found an equation that worked for your numerology, you just had to subtract one. Every other number in your numerology has some significant purpose, the “-1” does not.
Pick four numbers and I’ll find a similar coincidence (with the help of wolfram alpha). It isn’t hard to do, you just have to keep fudging the numbers until you find some way to arrange them that works out.
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
you're wrong. the equation was presented to me as describing the number 4560 by wolfram alpha. I didn't search for an equation, only information about the significance of the number.
Finding it connected to 374 is significant and that the relationship shown in wolfram alpha yields 411 is also significant.
I'll ask again. Why does Wolfram Alpha describe 4560 in terms of 374 - 1 ? Why are other numbers described the same way?
Why is this even an entry in wolfram alpha? you won't answer.. fine.
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
I’m not sure, because 374 - 1 isn’t 4560:
https://www.google.com/search?q=37%5E4+-+1&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS736US736&oq=37%5E4+-+1&aqs=chrome..69i57.8488j0j4&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
It’s 1,874,160.
And even if it did work out correctly, it would just be a factorization. That’s why it would display a number like that.
And 1874160 / 411 isn’t 4560 either, it’s 4074.26
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
you're wrong again. the factorization is shown on another entry for 4560.
374 - 1 describes 4560. I didn't say it was = 4560. anyway, if you want to manipulate what I wrote dishonestly, that's your prerogative.
here's the source if anybody who isn't being willfully ignorant and a dishonest manipulator wants to see for themselves.
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4560
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
I see, here’s how it works out:
((374)- 1) / 4560
How exactly how the fuck have I been a dishonest manipulator? For wondering why the -1 is significant and wanting to check the math on a numerology post?
I’ll answer your earlier question again, it’s shown that way on wolfram because it is a factorization.
It’s a weird coincidence, sure. And as you said, you didn’t shoehorn it in, wolfram did (as they should, since it’s a factorization).
The fact remains that every other number in your post has some significance, but the -1 doesn’t. And hey, if I were such a dishonest manipulator would I really have said earlier that it is perhaps because there was one plane?
You’re just being argumentative and defensive lol.
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
It's not a factorization of 4560. that is shown on an earlier entry. if anything it's a factor of 374 - 1 ..the number 37 figures 4 times prominently in this event. the other factor is 411. also significant.
I don't have to be defensive as the numbers speak for themselves.. your continued manipulations of what I wrote, and feeble attempts to degrade are here for all to see.
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
Lol look bud, you can continue calling me the bad guy and telling me about my “feeble attempts to degrade”, but please realize, this was my original comment, and you are the one being confrontational, not me:
And it appears that I’m not the only person who felt this way. You’ve chosen to get defensive about it, which is your prerogative. You still have yet to explain why it’s there except to say that it’s the only way the math would work, which was exactly my point.
Whenever you see someone mocking numerology, they always start adding or subtracting random numbers that have nothing to do with the narrative. That’s what makes “poor numerology”, when the numbers don’t actually all fit into the picture.
In saying this I am not degrading you, I’m just pointing out a weak spot in your numerology. It happens with numerology. Like I said (and have said the whole time despite your accusation that I haven’t), it’s still a cool coincidence. It’s just flawed in that one way.
If you aren’t able to acknowledge this then there’s no point in continuing our conversation, as it is the entire point of my critique of your numerology.
So go ahead, deflect more, tell me I’m a bad bad man who’s trying to degrade you, or say Wolfram Alpha a few more times. I give up lol.
Yep I said it, I give up. Go ahead and say “oh well thanks for admitting you were wrong and giving up thanks thanks for that glad you finally admitted it”, or something. Tell me I’m wrong again and tell me how I’m trolling. and be exactly as ridiculously immature and argumentative as you’ve been this entire time.
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
You expect me to let you roll over me with bullshit manipulation of what I say..
It's an objective evident fact that you are wrong, and how could anyone reading this thread but agree that you are being dishonest, manipulative and attempting to degrade.. amounting to trolling?
now you try to make it personal and further derail. your personal attack is noted.
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
Wow. Okay, whatever you say dude. Still no explanation for the -1 lol. Get as mad and indignant as you want, still no explanation for the -1.
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
how many times do I have to point you to wolfram alpha... ffs. enough.
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
Wolfram Alpha isn’t claiming there’s any numerological significance to the -1 though. It’s just a number.
It’s like if the flight number was 16 and it was 3 hours long and you said look 16 is (3+1)2
But 16 is 42.
That’s what this is
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
yes they are.
I get that you don't understand what wolfram alpha puts in the binomial number column. would you stop being an idiot in public about it?
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
How could you possibly think this when the essence of my last few comments with you here have been about Wolfram Alpha?
Come to think of it, the power of 4 is also extraneous, unless there were 4 pilots or something? Why is it to the power of 4 and not 6?
Also, it isn't in the binomial column, it's in the properties column, where Wolfram lists a bunch of random (and sometimes useful for calculations) properties about a number. It is a binomial in that it is X - Y.
The thing is, you could have picked a variety of other dates, passengers, days after 9/11 (also a random date tbh), and phone number, and you would have been able to find some simplification of that number which worked out.
But at least in those cases 9/11 is kind of an important date and 411 is a well known number. The power of 4 and subtracting 1 are totally random.
I'd love to throw a little snarky zinger back at you but at this point I honestly don't know why this is so hard for you to see. Do you think I'm attacking your theory or something? As I've said multiple times before, it's an interesting coincidence.
But why minus one?
And now I have to ask, why to the power of 4? Was it a 4 hour flight or something?
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
you don't see how one might find it annoying how you continuously ignore the information in the thread.
there are 4 prominent 37's. 374-1 is the kind of number used in binomial number theory. wolfram alpha notes it because it is notable.
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
While 374 - 1 isn't the kind of number used in binomial theorem, it is a binomial polynomial in that it has two parts (the 374 and the 1).
I do see how the 4 is important, actually! As you've said, there are 4 prominent 37s.
How about the 1?
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
Where did I mention 'binomial theorem'. Binomial number.. there are many types, and the use of an +/- bn are useful in factorization of large numbers, searching for primes etc..
Maybe you need to see a mathematician.
1 cheeseburgerdude 2018-01-10
Binomial number theory isn’t a thing, so I assumed you meant binomial theorem. And yes, there are many types of binomial numbers!
The math isn’t at issue here. All of the math checks out! The shoehorned -1 doesn’t.
1 reputable_opinion 2018-01-10
You trolled for 10 posts to finally agree with me that it's a weird coincidence.. lol. nice job
1 crestind 2018-01-10
Yep it`s how they sign their work.
Kind of like the Vegas massacre... the Route 91 Festival on 10/1... 91101... 9 11 01...
1 stupidfuckingtroll 2018-01-10
This is a bit unrelated to our other thread so I'll post it here. The flight appears to have been at 35000ft, not 37000, per flightaware:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS370/history/20140307/1635Z/WMKK/ZBAA/tracklog