How's your polio?

How's that aluminum you have built up in your brain?

Do you know how much aluminum would be in your brain without having a vaccine? Aluminum is everywhere.

This tired argument shows your utter ignorance on the subject.

"Since injected Al adjuvant is not eliminated in the feces, about 94% and 78% of the AlOH and AlPO4, respectively, remained in the rabbits after 28 days. The aluminum was not eliminated in a few days, as claimed by the Oxford Vaccine Group."

"The safety of injected aluminum adjuvant must be determined from experiments with injected aluminum adjuvant (insoluble and persistent), not ingested, water-soluble aluminum. Scientific studies have established that injected aluminum adjuvant has unique toxic properties and ways of moving around the body (“kinetics”) that are not the same as ingested water-soluble aluminum. Studies demonstrating the unique toxicity and kinetics of aluminum adjuvant are described in these articles:"

"Aluminum adjuvant nanoparticles are very different from dissolved aluminum ions. Consequently, the only scientifically-valid way to establish the safety of injected aluminum adjuvant, is by experiments with injected aluminum adjuvant. Studies of ingested, soluble aluminum salts cannot establish the safety of Al adjuvant. Models of only dissolved aluminum cannot be used to determine the toxicity of the particles. "

http://vaccinepapers.org/debunking-aluminum-adjuvant-part-2/

No, thanks. I like my science to not be from a biased source that came up with a conclusion and then worked backwards to try to make their findings fit into a predetermined conclusion.

Oh. So you honestly think ingesting a substance is the exact same as injecting it, and that the body reacts to aluminum found in the environment in the exact same way as aluminum engineered for use in biologics as well.

Maybe a basic biology book would be more on your level.

So anything I breathe and eat is completely harmless but injecting it is dangerous. Sure.

I understand people think chemicals are some scary thing but everything is chemicals.

Yes, because aluminum in the brain is just completely harmless.

"Concerns regarding vaccine safety have emerged following reports of potential adverse events in both humans and animals. In the present study, alum, alum-containing vaccine and alum adjuvant tagged with fluorescent nanodiamonds were used to evaluate i) the persistence time at the injection site, ii) the translocation of alum from the injection site to lymphoid organs, and iii) the behavior of adult CD1 mice following intramuscular injection of alum (400 μg Al/kg). Results showed for the first time a strikingly delayed systemic translocation of adjuvant particles. Alum-induced granuloma remained for a very long time in the injected muscle despite progressive shrinkage from day 45 to day 270. Concomitantly, a markedly delayed translocation of alum to the draining lymph nodes, major at day 270 endpoint, was observed. Translocation to the spleen was similarly delayed (highest number of particles at day 270). In contrast to C57BL/6J mice, no brain translocation of alum was observed by day 270 in CD1 mice. Consistently neither increase of Al cerebral content, nor behavioral changes were observed. On the basis of previous reports showing alum neurotoxic effects in CD1 mice, an additional experiment was done, and showed early brain translocation at day 45 of alum injected subcutaneously at 200 μg Al/kg. This study confirms the striking biopersistence of alum. It points out an unexpectedly delayed diffusion of the adjuvant in lymph nodes and spleen of CD1 mice, and suggests the importance of mouse strain, route of administration, and doses, for future studies focusing on the potential toxic effects of aluminum-based adjuvants.."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26384437

Aluminum is everywhere

Source or just full of shit?

You first

Google isn't a source

You know that there is more aluminium in an apple then in a vaccine?

Yes, let's kill hundreds if not thousands of children by not vaccinating because you don't have the info on all the ingredients. That makes sense.

Anti-vaccination is one of the most shameless movements ever. At least flat earth or 9/11 truth doesn't kill children.

You keep repeating that and it still doesn't excuse your pushing anti-vaccination nonsense that gets tons of children killed every year.

Once again, your getting children killed, en mass, pushing bullshit claims.

Shame on you.

Proof of children dying "en masse?" Actually, infant mortality is higher in countries with more vaccinations.

The infant mortality rate (IMR) is one of the most important indicators of the socio-economic well-being and public health conditions of a country. The US childhood immunization schedule specifies 26 vaccine doses for infants aged less than 1 year—the most in the world—yet 33 nations have lower IMRs. Using linear regression, the immunization schedules of these 34 nations were examined and a correlation coefficient of r = 0.70 (p < 0.0001) was found between IMRs and the number of vaccine doses routinely given to infants. Nations were also grouped into five different vaccine dose ranges: 12–14, 15–17, 18–20, 21–23, and 24–26. The mean IMRs of all nations within each group were then calculated. Linear regression analysis of unweighted mean IMRs showed a high statistically significant correlation between increasing number of vaccine doses and increasing infant mortality rates, with r = 0.992 (p = 0.0009). Using the Tukey-Kramer test, statistically significant differences in mean IMRs were found between nations giving 12–14 vaccine doses and those giving 21–23, and 24–26 doses. A closer inspection of correlations between vaccine doses, biochemical or synergistic toxicity, and IMRs is essential.

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0960327111407644

Why would you misquote me? en mass.

And of course the lazy and silly tactic of /r/conspiracy folks to pretend there isn't a plethora of info about a subject:

Here's the body count page in America:

http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/PreventableDeaths.html

Each link goes to the CDC site.

Worldwide:

http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/one-map-sums-damage-caused-anti-vaccination-movement/

Or you can do it by disease:

Mumps outbreaks:

https://www.cdc.gov/mumps/outbreaks.html#b

Ok, that's enough, you can get more if you really really want.

Yes, us "conspiracy folk" and our lazy, silly tactics.

And the CDC? With the "CDC foundation" that receives direct contributions from Vaccine manufacturers?

https://www.cdcfoundation.org/partner-list/corporations

Corrupt CDC is obviously corrupt.

(Proof needed)

Botsaiswut?

You completely edited your original comment way after the fact. What the hell is that about?

Because I added a study.

Would you like me to put "Edited" on it?

Or are you going to actually address the content?

You'll need more than the existence of a foundation to make an argument.

British Medical Journal. This information is freely available.

"Despite the agency’s disclaimer, the CDC does receive millions of dollars in industry gifts and funding, both directly and indirectly, and several recent CDC actions and recommendations have raised questions about the science it cites, the clinical guidelines it promotes, and the money it is taking.

Marcia Angell, former editor in chief of the New England Journal of Medicine, told The BMJ, “The CDC has enormous credibility among physicians, in no small part because the agency is generally thought to be free of industry bias. Financial dealings with biopharmaceutical companies threaten that reputation.”2

Industry funding of the CDC has taken many doctors, even some who worked for CDC, by surprise. Philip Lederer, an infectious diseases fellow at Massachusetts General Hospital and Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts, and a former CDC epidemic intelligence service officer, told The BMJ he was “saddened” to learn of industry funding."

http://www.bmj.com/content/350/bmj.h2362

Better quit breathing and eating if you want to avoid toxins.

LOL. Seriously? THAT’s your objective, scientific source on the consequences of the anti-vax movement?

Oh, and you ARE aware, right, of the failings of the mumps portion of the MMR, causing a resurgence in mumps cases among people previously properly vaccinated?

No, I guess you aren’t.

lol thanks @ toxicchildren! ahahahahahaha

https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/7pq593/recommendation_of_the_advisory_committee_on/?st=JCAWDP27&amp;sh=84b96ff7

Read ‘em and weep, buddy. We sure as hell are.

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That’s right. Due to shitty mumps vaccine efficacy to begin with (Google the Merck mumps vaccine lawsuit for more details on that) , and on top of fading immunity for those who might have originally had it, the medical industry is now recommending a third dose of that which is failing us currently.

And mind you, it’s not going to be a dedicated dose of mumps vaccine this time. Nope. It’s gonna be another dose of the three-way thing.

The link to the mump vaccine makes it seem pretty ineffective. Just a couple quotes

Mumps outbreaks can still occur in highly vaccinated U.S. communities,

waning immunity following vaccination

one dose is 78% (range: 49% to 92%) effective

Not sure what point you are trying to make, but a vaccine that is 49% effective and loses that effectiveness as time goes by, and does not actually stop outbreaks in highly vaccinated groups is kind of worthless. One of the know site effect is permanent brain damage, so if you want to risk it, fine. But you want to force me to risk permanent brain damage? For a vaccine that is not effective?

LOL at the pro-vaxxers arguments here.

So, it's OK for some bad to happen, as long as some good happens too?

So, it's OK to hide ingredients and toxic agents so long as there is marginal benefit for the person given a vaccination? They don't need to know what is in the vaccine, right?

It's OK to eradicate polio, et al, at the cost of introducing new maladies?

Nothing you typed is A) being argued in here or B) accurate in science.

And again, this nonsense is killing people and reintroducing diseases once eradicated. This is a conspiracy theory that is literally killing children. Pat yourself on the back for being complicit therein.

You're repeating the exact same comment over and over to the same users. FYI

You never addressed the deaths attributed to your movement despite my providing said proof.

My last please to you is for you to recognize your own culpability in killing children and maybe think about before you spread bad info.

take care

It’s pointless to talk to people that don’t understand the science behind vaccines. What they call toxins are things that are already in the air we breathe and the water we drink. Also they’ve never seen a vaccine and apparently think the syringe is about a foot long.

Horrifying how people will literally assist in killing children to feel like they've discovered some grand conspiracy.

This whole movement started out with a scam and took on a life of its own. It’s scary how gullible people can be. Our ancestors would be horrified that people would rather their kids get sick than vaccinate them.

It’s ridiculously easy to prove there’s aluminum and mercury and other things in the air. I can’t think of anyone who would disagree.

You've edited your comments after the fact and misrepresented your sources leaving out pertinent information. You're not redpilling anyone, you're being a liar.

take care

Stop posting the same thing over again.... it's giving me a headache.

You've backed up your claims only with some link with Jenny McCarthy's name in it, and sources from the CDC, who has a Foundation that literally accept "donations" from Vaccine manufacturers.

And you're not here to learn anything anyway. You're here to push a narrative using mostly overemotional appeals about "killing children."

So, this sub probably isn't for you anyway. Have a good one.

So, this sub probably isn't for you anyway. Have a good one.

Yeah everyone here should be lemmings for your absolute nonsense. lol

You have zero refutations, only ad hominem attacks. Lazy.

Vaccines are literally killing children too. And these are just the deaths that were actually reported after vaccination, because most doctors are unwilling to link the two.

"VAERS received 2149 death reports, most (n = 1469 [68.4%]) in children. Median age was 0.5 years (range, 0–100 years); males accounted for 1226 (57%) reports. The total annual number of death reports generally decreased during the latter part of the study period. Most common causes of death among 1244 child reports with available death certificates/autopsy reports included sudden infant death syndrome (n = 544 [44%]), asphyxia (n = 74 [6.0%]), septicemia (n = 61 [4.9%]), and pneumonia (n = 57 [4.6%]). Among 526 adult reports, most common causes of death included diseases of the circulatory (n = 247 [46.9%]) and respiratory systems (n = 77 [14.6%]), certain infections and parasitic diseases (n = 62 [11.8%]), and malignant neoplasms (n = 20 [3.8%]). For child death reports, 79.4% received >1 vaccine on the same day. Inactivated influenza vaccine given alone was most commonly associated with death reports in adults (51.4%)."

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/61/6/980/451431

Amazing how you cut this off after the important part:

Background. Vaccines are among the safest medical products in use today. Hundreds of millions of vaccinations are administered in the United States each year. Serious adverse reactions are uncommon. However, temporally associated deaths can occur following vaccination. Our aim was to characterize main causes of death among reports submitted to the US Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), a spontaneous vaccine safety surveillance system.

Methods. We searched VAERS for US reports of death after any vaccination from 1 July 1997 through 31 December 2013. Available medical records, autopsy reports, and death certificates were reviewed to identify cause of death.

It's estimated that only about 5 percent of events are actually reported to VAERS, as most people are unaware it even exists.

offer me a car that is entirely safe and never breaks down... oh wait, you are arguing the impossible.

Vaccines aren't 100% safe, they are just far far safer than the alternative. Children have died from vaccines, far more have died from vaccine preventable diseases.

Classic cut and paste of what they want you to read. They’re hoping nobody clicks the link.

Why not research how vaccines work and what chemicals are in our food, water and air?

Why not research what chemicals and neurotoxins are in vaccines and what they do to the body while you also look at those in our food, air, and water?

LOL, thanks for the heads up, I'll keep that in mind in the future ;)

I have researched it quite a bit, and like I said, there’s no chemicals in them that don’t occur naturally.

You’re trying to scare people using what you think are scary words. Better stay away from H2O, it could kill ya.

Aluminum and mercury occur "naturally", but they are confirmed neurotoxins.

Formaldehyde, gluteraldyhyde, polysorbate 80, pig gelatine, aborted fetal cells, animal cell lines, bovine serum and cells, antifreeze, 2-phenoxyethanol, methanol, borax (used in pesticides), monosodium glutamate (MSG), latex, and numerous other dangerous toxins listed in the info below are not natural and are all know carcinogins and in the case of mercury and aluminum, neurotoxins which don't belong in our bodies and definitely not in the developing bodies of young children with underdeveloped immune systems.

You need to research better buddy.

https://healthwyze.org/reports/60-vaccine-secrets

So adjuvants that enable pathogens to cross the BBB are in what foods that i inject directly, thus bypassing first pass metabolism?

I have. Not everyone eats industrial waste 😂

I was not arguing science. Science is great, vaccines are great, people in charge of science and vaccines are not great.

Engaging in this nonsense and spreading fake information and doubt about vaccines makes you at least partially responsible for the deaths that come when these diseases resurface and kill.

What is the fake info I have spread? Seems to me I am arguing the failing of humans in charge of the vaccine system.

I have cast no doubt on vaccines themselves.

Your camp confuses the desire to know what is in vaccines, why the aluminum et al, and who is in charge of the system as a condemnation on vaccines themselves.

"Does this car have seat belts"

"YOU ALL HATE CARS!"

You make claims with no proof. That supporting this narrative. You are culpable.

You must be confusing me with the other people you're responding to.

Also my friend, the for-profit vaccine industry does the same: make claims with no proof.

That is why people like me question it. You seem passionately positive about vaccines. How do you feel about the connections between vaccines and autism?

How do you feel about the connections between vaccines and autism?

Now I know everything I need to know about you.

Take care.

So, not only is there literally zero connection between vaccines and autism, but any mention of the possibility is a discussion-ender for you?

That seems intellectually dishonest.

What is it about vaccine discussions on conspiracy forums that prompts you to be so passionate?

That’s when you know their belief is not based on anything remotely scientific; it’s based on feelings.

Yeah you said that about 15 times.

I think it’s funny how you’ve been refuted but you ignore it and just keep repeating yourself.

You wouldn’t know because you don’t read what anyone says.

No, I’m not linking common sense.

I think u/westcoasthippy makes the one point that is indusputable, profit motive corrupts.all involved with the production, administration, and regulation of vaccinations. So long as there is a profit motive, we should always question the assuring science behind big Pharma.

Yourefull of shit. And once its eradicated, you couldnt have it pop back up, because it was eradicated; as in completely wiped out.

you can eradicate it from a country, and have it return, or remove it from the human population, and if there is a reserve population cough bats cough it can return.

Vaccine didn't eradicate polio. As they usually do, the symptoms of polio were determined to be a result of a different disease. Vioala! Polio cured!

In fact the vaccine killed over 40k children.

I did not know this!

Not polio but another useful graph

https://web.archive.org/web/20180104144058/https://i1.wp.com/www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/01-03-Vaccines-Miracle-or-Disaster-1.jpg

It’s because it’s not true.

lol, nice evidence

Good lord, how big do you think vaccine shots are?

Yes, I agree!

Maybe relevant, maybe not, but garyp714 is a mod of over 20 reddit subforums.

That isn't anything in itself, but perhaps a data point to keep in mind as we all read his replies here?

... Or anything like that

Oh no they’re a mod!

Why do you care?

Ah. Makes total sense.

Oh my god what a scandal

Scandal is a massive overstatement.

You should stop being a weasel and list those forums. Here:

/r/Poetry
/r/OCPoetry
/r/FloridaGators
/r/collegebaseball
/r/AdultChildren
/r/CollegeSoftball
/r/NichirenBuddhism
/r/ACOA
/r/SGIUSA
/r/Nichiren_Buddhism

Everyone's a fucking shill that challenges your nonsense.

I didn't feel the subs were terribly relevant.

Weasel is a value judgement. As is shill. I was just posting facts. Funny you'd read a fact as a weasel's move. Mirrored emotion there?

Maybe relevant, maybe not, but garyp714 is a mod of over 20 reddit subforums.

You're the one playing weasel games. At least try and make them relevant.

I AM A SHILL FOR BIG POETRY!!!! AND FOR THE GATORS!!!!!

As I said, the subs are irrelevant.

Either you're a mod of several subs and know how Reddit works...

... or you're a mod of several subs and do not know how Reddit works.

Either way, you're damning yourself here.

If you know how reddit works, you know why you being a mod of unrelated subs is a relevant here.

If you do not know how reddit works... Accounts who use overly-emotive language and rhetoric over substance tend to be following their emotions over their intellect, or are following a script, either provided to them or just absorbed and repeated.

The fact you're a mod for innocuous subs making vehemently emotional pleas For The Children is something r/conspiracy is gonna notice and call attention to. That doesn't make you a shill, that makes us aware of who is speaking.

Bummer you feel that is a weasel move. A mod should welcome that kind of transparency.

And Buddhism!

And in my 11 years here of modding forums and meeting users of all kinds, I've found the ones that cry shill are usually projecting.

Yay! I'm glad we found somewhere to meet minds. Have a great day.

Give me a poem and make it snappy....

Sorry....

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Excellent list! Thank you!

How many people Saved this comment, lol. I know I did!

"DESCRIPTION M-M-R ® II (Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Virus Vaccine Live) is a live virus vaccine for vaccination
against measles (rubeola), mumps, and rubella (German measles). M-M-R II is a sterile lyophilized preparation of (1) ATTENUVAX ® (Measles Virus Vaccine Live), a more attenuated line of measles virus, derived from Enders' attenuated Edmonston strain and propagated in
chick embryo cell culture; (2) MUMPSVAX ® (Mumps Virus Vaccine Live), the Jer yl Lynn ™ (B level) strain of mumps virus propagated in chick embryo cell culture; and (3) MERUVAX ® II (Rubella Virus Vaccine
Live), the Wistar RA 27/3 strain of live attenuated rubella virus propagated in WI -38 human diploid lung
fibroblasts .{1,2} The grow th medium for measles and mumps is Medium 199 (a buffered salt solution containing
vitamins and amino acids and supplemented with fetal bovine serum) containing SPGA (sucrose,
phosphate, glutamate, and recombinant human albumin) as stabilizer and neomycin. The growth medium for rubella is Minimum Essential Medium (MEM) [a buffered salt solution
containing vitamins and amino acids and supplemented with fetal bovine serum] containing recombinant
human albumin and neomycin. Sorbitol and hydrolyzed gelatin stabilizer are added to the individual virus harvests. The cells, virus pools, and fetal bovine serum are all screened for the absence of adventitious agents. The reconstituted vaccine is for subcutaneous administration. Each 0.5 mL dose contains not less than 1,000 TCID 50 (tissue culture infectious doses) of measles virus; 12,500 TCID 50 of mumps virus; and
1,000 TCID 50 of rubella virus. Each dose of the vaccine is calculated to contain sorbitol (14.5 mg), sodium phosphate, sucrose (1.9 mg), sodium chloride, hy drolyzed gelatin (14.5 mg), recombinant human albumin ( ≤ 0.3 mg), fetal bovine serum (<1 ppm), other buffer and media ingredients and approximately 25 mcg of neomycin. The product contains no preservative. Before reconstitution, the lyophilized vaccine is a light yellow compact crystalline plug. M- M-R II , when reconstituted as directed, is clear yellow."

"ADVERSE REACTIONS The following adverse reactions are listed in decreasing order of severity, without regard to causality, within each body system category and have been reported during clinical trials, with use of the marketed vaccine, or with use of monovalent or bivalent vaccine containing measles, mumps, or rubella: Body as a Whole Panniculitis; atypical measles; fever; syncope; headache; dizziness; malaise; irritability. Cardiovascular System Vasculitis. Digestive System Pancreatitis; diarrhea; vomiting; parotitis; nausea. Endocrine System Diabetes mellitus. Hemic and Lymphatic System Thrombocytopenia (see WARNINGS,
Thrombocytopenia ); purpura; regional lymphadenopathy;
leukocytosis. Immune System Anaphylaxis and anaphylactoid reactions have been reported as well as related phenomena such as
angioneurotic edema (including peripheral or facial edema) and bronchial spasm in individuals with or
without an allergic history. Musculoskeletal System Arthritis; arthralgia; myalgia. Arthralgia and/or arthritis (usually transient and rarely chronic), and polyneuritis are features of infection wit h wild -type rubella and vary in frequency and severity with age and sex, being greatest in adult females and least in prepubertal children. This type of involvement as well as myalgia and paresthesia, have also been reported following administration of MER UVAX II .
Chronic arthritis has been associated with wild- type rubella infection and has been related to persistent virus and/or viral antigen isolated from body tissues. Only rarely have vaccine recipients developed
chronic joint symptoms. Following vaccination in children, reactions in joints are uncommon and generally of brief duration. In
women, incidence rates for arthritis and arthralgia are generally higher than those seen in children
(children: 0- 3%; women: 12- 26%), {17,56 ,57} and the reactions tend t o be more marked and of longer
duration. Symptoms may persist for a matter of months or on rare occasions for years. In adolescent girls, the reactions appear to be intermediate in incidence between those seen in children and in adult women. Even in women
older than 35 years, these reactions are generally well tolerated and rarely interfere with
normal activities.
Nervous System Encephalitis; encephalopathy; measles inclusion body encephalitis (MIBE) (see
CONTRAINDICATIONS); subacute sclerosing panencephal itis (SSPE); Guillain -Barré Syndrome (GBS);
acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM); transverse myelitis; febrile convulsions; afebrile
convulsions or seizures; ataxia; polyneuritis; polyneuropathy; ocular palsies; paresthesia. Encephalitis and encephalopathy have been reported approximately once for every 3 million doses of M-M-R II or measles -, mumps -, and rubella- containing vaccine administered si nce licensure of these
vaccines .
The risk of serious neurological disorders following live measles virus vaccine administration remains less than the risk of encephalitis and encephalopathy following infection wit h wild -type measles ( 1 per 1000 reported cases). {58, 59} In severely immunocompromised individuals who have been inadvertently vaccinated with measl es- containing vaccine; measles inclusion body encephalitis, pneumonitis, and fatal outcome as a direct
consequence of disseminated measles vaccine virus infection have been reported (see
CONTRAINDICATIONS) . In this population, disseminated mumps and rubell a vaccine virus infection have also been reported. There have been reports of subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE) in children who did not have a history of infection with wild- type measles but did receive measles vaccine. Some of these cases may
hav e resulted from unrecognized measles in the first year of life or possibly from the measles vaccination. Based on estimated nationwide measles vaccine distribution, the association of SSPE cases to measles
vaccination is about one case per million vaccine
doses distributed. This is far less than the association
with infection with wild -type measles, 6- 22 cases of SSPE per million cases of measles. The results of a retrospective case- controlled study conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggest that the overall effect of measles vaccine has been to protect against SSPE by preventing measles with its inherent higher risk of SSPE. {60} Cases of aseptic meningitis have been reported to VAERS following measles, mumps, and rubella
vaccination. Although a causal relationship between the Urabe strain of mumps vaccine and aseptic
meningitis has been shown, there is no evidence to link Jeryl Lynn™ mumps vaccine to aseptic
meningitis. Respiratory System Pneumonia; pneumonitis (see CONTRAINDICATIONS ); sore throat; cough; rhinitis. Skin Stevens -Johnson syndrome; erythema multiforme; urticaria; rash; measles -like rash; pruritis. Local reactions including burning/stinging at injection site; wheal and flare; redness (erythema);
swelling; induration; tenderness; vesiculation at injection site; Henoch- Schönlein purpura; acute
hemorrhagic edema of infancy . 8 Special Senses — Ear Nerve deafness; otitis media. Special Senses — Eye Retinitis; optic neuritis; papillitis; retrobulbar neuritis; conjunctivitis. Urogenital System Epididymitis ; orchitis . Other Death from various, and in some cases unknown, causes has been reported rarely following
vaccination with measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines; however, a causal relationship has not been
established in healthy individuals (see CONTRAINDICATIONS). No deaths or permanent sequelae were reported in a published post -marketing surveillance study in Finland involving 1.5 million children and
adults who were vaccinated with M- M-R II during 1982 to 1993. {61} Under the Nati onal Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, health- care providers and manufacturers are required to record and report certain suspected adverse events occurring within specific time periods after vaccination. However, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) has established a
Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) which will accept all reports of suspected events. {49} A VAERS report form as well as information regarding reporting requirements can be obtained by calling VAERS 1 -800- 822- 7967."

EDIT: For those wondering, this is not bad, this is normal, this is proper science, and this guy doesn't really understand that they wouldn't be able to create the vaccine without certain ingredients that he keeps calling "Secret".

Secondly, OP keeps calling things secret, I just listed everything used, tell me whats secret? I think OP also missed: "The cells, virus pools, and fetal bovine serum are all screened for the absence of adventitious agents."

I have a feeling they would look at you and be speechless because they would be trying to explain something to someone who is clearly ignorant of the fundamental basis for vaccine production.

"The grow th medium for measles and mumps is Medium 199 (a buffered salt solution containing vitamins and amino acids and supplemented with fetal bovine serum) containing SPGA (sucrose, phosphate, glutamate, and recombinant human albumin) as stabilizer and neomycin. The growth medium for rubella is Minimum Essential Medium (MEM) [a buffered salt solution containing vitamins and amino acids and supplemented with fetal bovine serum] containing recombinant human albumin and neomycin."

uhm...

You never addressed the deaths attributed to your movement despite my providing said proof.

Engaging in this nonsense and spreading fake information and doubt about vaccines makes you at least partially responsible for the deaths that come when these diseases resurface and kill.

offer me a car that is entirely safe and never breaks down... oh wait, you are arguing the impossible.

Vaccines aren't 100% safe, they are just far far safer than the alternative. Children have died from vaccines, far more have died from vaccine preventable diseases.