Timing coincidence on Hawaii alerts?

109  2018-01-13 by rahl_confessor

We all know about the missile alert Hawaii got this morning. It took 38 minutes for a second alert through the EAS to announce that it was a false alarm. According to this article, it takes just under 38 minutes for a missile launched from North Korea to reach Hawaii. Is this just a coincidence? Or was there actually a missile that was intersected?

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I believe the questions your asking warrent further discussion. It just sucks because we basically have no information on the event to fuel that discussion.

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Incorrect, you're is the proper spelling. Football Jedi, maybe, but only a word padawan.

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That really doesn’t seem like a coincidence to me.

It wouldn't be a particularly extraordinary coincidence.

At this point I see no reason to believe there was a real missile, but I encourage/welcome more information if there is any.

If there was a real intercepted missile then at least one country would have been invaded/glassed by now.

as much as id like to believe we would know, it might be in our best interests not know as a general public.

I'm pretty sure when we go to war this time around, it will be a few hours if not days before the general public really knows everything that's going on. At least those who are not in immediate danger.

Reasons being are we don't want to set off a chain reaction of mutual destruction by launching our own ICBMs. We also don't want to cause massive riots and looting in the general public. Trying to get water and food supplies.

We send missiles flying, China might very well retaliate causing them to launch a counter-offensive which in turn would just make Russia angry at everyone and launch there's.

The first thing that would have to happen is American forces will have to neutralize the immediate threat to Soul and setting up counter operations to insure there safty.

If you're trying to sound knowledgeable about all this, FFS at least get the capital of South Korea correct, it's Seoul.

lol Grammarly fucks up sometimes :)

In the light of MAD, it seems reasonable to hide intercepted missiles from the public and use a more covert method than an invasion to neutralise the threat posed by the attacker.

Like what?

A coup de tat of a country after capturing that country's foreign leader at a Quadrennial sporting event held in an allied country.

Just a thought

Is NK invited to the olympics?

Yes

There's no motivation to hide a missile launch by a rogue nation from the public when an alert went out before the supposed missile dropped its payload.

The reason they wouldn't hide it is that it that it would give the US leverage in the international political sphere to maneuver politically against China and it would certainly take the focus off Trumps gaffs. If Trump is the warmongering neo-dictator the media wants us to believe he is then he would certainly parade this to his own ends.

I don't believe there was a missile. Though, I'm not convinced the alert was a mistake. More likely it's a stimulus to put people on edge. Pavlov taught us so much about conditioning.

If there was a real intercepted missile then at least one country would have been invaded/glassed by now.

What if an Israeli sub launched it as a false flag?

Wot if time travelers did it

Wot if them angry volcanoes got all ornery cuz of all those people stompin' around on top of them an decided to spook them all into jumping into the ocean?

We know from Russian arms dealer Victor Bout that the Israelis launched a missile that impacted the pentagon on 911.

lol, you believe in time?

I would disagree.. usa never responds quickly. Iraq going into kuwait or after 9/11 etc. usa has the chess board stacked militarily and despite 'trump being trump' the generals would push back hard on being reactionary as opposed to using their preprepped plans for success.

i still think it's really interesting to think that this could be about an intercepted missile. on the same lines, could it of been a usa missile launched accidentally in a navy exercise?

I would hope the US military isn't as loose to act as its president on Twitter. For the defense industry at least, war is a business, the contracts need to be in place and everything has to be done to the 1000 page spec to a T. Indiscriminate destruction is relatively cheap, but not conducive to a long-term business strategy. The US will act when there is a scheme in place profitable enough to make lobby congress worth the cost expenditure.

I think it's completely possible a missile could be intercepted over the pacific, under strict confidentiality, and no civilian organization will know the better. Paying off a few fishermen is cheap compared to messing up the scheme.

glassing NK would mean raining fallout all over south korea and japan.

not exactly a great way to keep either as allies, not to mention this would also sprinkle radiation/fallout all over far eastern russia.

all of that would trigger a very very shitty chain of events.

IF a missile was intercepted chances are they will keep it hush until a few hours after every plane in the US took off and had already dropped their payload all over korea.

“glassed”

I know you mean nukes but man, since this is r/conspiracy, space lasers could also be a possibility.

I don't think it was a missile unless they haven't told Trump yet. He would have tweeted something by now .even if they told him to not say anything until they attack NK he would probably tweet some cryptic stuff to prove later he is smarter then most

He would have tweeted something by now

Fuuuuuck. The world we live in right now...

The Scarry part is that people in Hawaii actually think that a missile would be sent at them. A few years ago and you would have never thought the alert was real

I don't find it to be that far fetched. The geopolitical climate is currently quite hostile- we aren't out there exactly being the peacekeepers of the world.

He’s the commander in chief, “they attack”ing is his word. Then, he’d ask permission. Presidents have done it before.

What about the coincidence of the timing of the Trump porn star scandal?

I don’t know if allegations of consensual sex and an alleged payoff to keep his wife from finding out is a “scandal” by today’s standards, but interesting point.

ask the evangelicals.

bannon says there were hundreds of such payouts.

how many of them involved women who were underage at the time?

Trump is alleged to have helped run the Epstein pedo ring by some.

North Korea would've announced the attack.

not if the attack was prevented

Why would the deep state announce the attack? More likely they make it look like Russia/China/Pakistan, rather than risking destroying their geographical stronghold.

Who is directly connected to their news network? If the media doesn’t want you to hear it, you won’t hear it

If the Marshal Islands has a sub i'd go there and check to make sure it wasn't just pushed off as training or testing. Or any of the 1000's of pacific islands there. But one of the larger known ICBM defense systems is down there on the Kwajalein Atoll.

perhaps they were collecting the fullest reaction to this “oops” possible

What if it was on purpose. No missile but a preparation for Hawaiian’s for getting ready in the future. I hear this was a huge realization for them and doing this might save peoples lives in the future. Scary thought but almost a preparation of a war

Ive read two different theories 1. there was no missile someone was trying to bait trump to strike over a false alarm... 2. there was a missile it was shot down and retaliations is retaliation

From the article you linked:

Russian, Chinese, or North Korean intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) could make it to Hawaii in less than 38 minutes, mind you.

All the source I've seen have said it would be about 15 minutes from people receiving the alert to the missile hitting Hawaii. 38 minutes just seems like a random number after 15 minutes, meaning that if the alert had been real there would have been more than enough time for Hawaii to be hit before the second alert was sent out.

But since the point is that any time after 15 minutes would be more than enough time for the missile to hit, I'm not sure why this is any sort of coincidence.

Possibly a distraction to draw fire away from Clinton investigation & pizzagate?

NK clearly not happy about all the secret space launches lately..I'm kinda sketched myself. Most satellites follow a free floating pattern orbit. It's so predictive places like area 51 know what times they go over. The last missile/satellite had thrusters on it making it seem it was going to be thrown into a very off normal orbit for some reason. It reached space with full fuel too..I think they say we lost com's with it though..maybe that's the emergency alert.

It only too 11 on Twitter for it to come out that there was no threat. Not sure it why it took three times as long to get an official message sent out OTA. So no, there was no missle.

Deliberate preparedness test conducted by either DHS or FEMA.

They needed to see how many would seek shelter in such deadline. How government agencies were prepared.

https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-ln-nuclear-prep-20170926-story,amp.html#ampshare=http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-ln-nuclear-prep-20170926-story.html

Is there any way to find out what the travel time of a missile launched from NK and targeting Hawaii would be?

I watched a youtube vid of the police scanner audio. The police had confirmation that it was not a legit alert within 15 mins. I'm on my way out the door, but as soon as I get back, I'll link the vid with the scanner audio here.

No you won't

Lol, I forgot. Have an upvote.

haha it's all good just giving a hard time. I'm guilty of doing the same myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Cb3FIUpXw

It's about 4:34 when the dispatcher says it's a drill.