lol ... why are we not surprised?

nice call OP

And what a convenient distraction Hawaii turned out to be...

I saw it

You saw what?

it

You'll float too.

Your marble?

Ah. I thought I'd lost it. Glad to know it's still there.

Talk about distractions, though...

The fucking marble. Fuck all of you.

As the post about Moby told us yesterday, they are just trying to discredit Trump. If they had actual evidence they would charge/impeach him rather than trying to get famous people to spread rumours about it. If anyone still believes the Russian thing at this stage, they need help.

This idea is wearing thin over time. And the impatience is hilarious.

If there was no evidence would there already be 2 indictments and 2 guilty pleas?

What's yours thoughts about bannon?

Trump jr admitted to meeting Russian at trump tower.

The president is actively obstructing the investigation but it's really hard to prove that in court so it will probably just be perjury or something easier to prove like money laundering and tax evasion.

Trump has a pattern of setting up a fall guy and throwing them under the bus. So there's a small chance he comes out with out charges. Very small chance.

How many people around the president will have to be convicted before you believe he did something illegal? Is trump literally the only innocent person in his campaign and administration?

You're wasting your time.

Utterly delusional haha all we can do is laugh

To claim that the Trump campaign/administration isn't dirty is obviously naive, and I wish everyone would get and acknowledge that. You cannot win a rigged game by playing fair. You also cannot win by letting people see your cards. I have no doubt T. Junior was looking for dirt on the Clintons, just as the Clintons were looking for dirt on everyone else. You'd be stupid trying to run a "clean campaign" these days, as Bernie evidenced so clearly.

The admission of the meeting in turn (IIRC) confirmed that Trump Tower was being wiretapped during the campaign. Bishop takes pawn, rook takes the bishop. Both sides are playing a game, and both sides have sacrificed pawns in an attempt to win it. And I'm not talking about 5D chess or anything like that either. It's just the game. It is what it is.

Bannon is just another chess piece. Maybe he did turn around, maybe his "revelations" are just more theatre setting up the next move on the board. I'm erring towards the latter option, but who the hell knows.

Trump isn't clean by any means, but nobody at that level is. Bernie tried to be and came out looking like a pussy with a gash on his cheek at the convention.

The point at the of the day is, that Trump didn't win because of "interference" or "collusion", since nothing worthy of that description has ever been shown to stick, but because enough people felt that it was time for a different crook to run the show. And you have to be a crook if you wanna run a mob (which is exactly what government is in its current form).

How many people around the president will have to be convicted before you believe he did something illegal?

I'd like to know what illegal something you're inferring in this, too, because I'm yet to hear a meaningful answer to this. Opposition Research (T. Jr.)? Targeted campaigning (Cambridge Analytica)? Saying one thing during the campaign and then doing the opposite once elected (hiring Goldman Sachs types, etc.)? Doing exactly what he promised during the campaign (travel ban, The Wall, tax reform, etc.)?

All of these things are shady, dubious, and if you will detestable, but not at all illegal, am I wrong? Am I missing something? What does collusion mean to you? Because, I'm not really seeing it.

I'm saving your comment. Don't be surprised if you find it in the wild somewhere ;)

It is huge, and it’s been here for a while now, and they’ve been here all along...

you're not huge, just lean, very lean

What is detestable about limiting legal immigration because we are already running out of jobs do to automation? Building a wall and enforcing the border to decrease illegal immigration? Letting people keep more of their hard earned money?

I love the Goldman Sachs talking point... Trump should’ve hired some Shmoe off the street. Do I love his cabinet and think every pick is good? No.. but I’d like to see yo fill a thousand people cabinet and administration on your first year in office and politics.

I should have been more clear. I meant to say that it's arguable that some of his positions are detestable (which is not to say wrong or unwarranted, but that they are uncomfortable, on first sight at least).

I meant to make this point more nuanced, but it came out as a condemnation of his positions. English is not my first language and I don't always express myself as clearly as I would like.

For English being a second language, you verbalize type more eloquently than me. But then again, I'm just a product of US public education.

So wait now you're back peddling on trump draining the swamp and you would rather him fill it? Is there anything you morons wont go back on?

An indictment on an FBI plant and an indictment on Manafort from his Ukraine and Podesta dealings.

Trump has already been discredited by himself many many times.

Great input. Come again.

It's no input, it's fact. He lies or twists facts consistently. The media is guilty of it as well, but Trump doesn't need anyone to discredit him.

I came here for the conspiracies and figured out this sub is mostly pro Trump kinda shocked me

I'm sure that Trump is but that doesn't mean that we have to put up with media lies as well. In fact Trump is much worse than the media as he can only be in power for a couple of terms, at most, where as the heads of media are able to spread disinformation for as long as they please.

Lol you've been watching too much CSI buddy, they're building a case against as many people as possible. We have all the evidence in the world of those around trump working with and for the Russians now we need to take down trump. We have all the evidence in the world that Russians helped trump win the election but you must make sure your case is sound so there are no mistakes made where people walk free. Eventually you trumptards will understand that it isnt some massive liberal conspiracy and it's just people who love their country removing those who seek to destroy it. Always remember, you cant support a retard and claim to be intelligent. Trump is our retard.

I don't watch TV mate. I find Trump ridiculous tbh. What I find beyond ridiculous and actually frightening is the propaganda from the press. Non stop absolute nonsense

Read the testimony released by Feistein. There was Russian collusion. The Dossier contained sources from Russian intelligence who fed Fusion GPS disinfo.

Indeed, the Democrats were colluding with Russia via Steele.

So were Never-Trumpers. Deep State deeply afraid of this guy.

That's not the same thing as "collusion".

The definition of "collusion" has always been nebulous, at best. Especially in legal terms.

The "collusion" that people believe Trump did was receive dirt on Clinton from the Russians. How would this example be much different from that?

It's different because Clinton provably paid foreign agents for it, violating FEC laws.

This is a good watch. Share it around. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moO9dfYHrZA

Wanna find out who rules over you? Find out who you're not allowed to criticize

Basically, /r/politics

https://youtu.be/N6uVV2Dcqt0

This is one of my favorite quotes of all time. Always gonna upvote

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So, not Trump?

https://www.thenation.com/article/nearly-50-senators-want-to-make-it-a-felony-to-boycott-israel/

Transgender People?

Mr. Rogers?

so LGBT ? > so feminism ? > so women suffrage ?

:3

Jews. Easily Jews.

Removed. Rule 10.

Well played!

If it isn't a Trump hit piece or it can't be manipulated into ine, the teevee isn't interested.

It's kinda ironic, eh?

media is silent

No they aren’t.

Shithole! Shithole!

It's the Russians!

Also notice on Sundays the anti Trump post disappear as the "pros" take Sundays off.. Wonder if Shareblue has tommorow(MLK day) off as well? Maybe the brigading of this sub wont start back up till Tuesday.

are you surprised?