Real shootings?
18 2018-01-14 by coach5280
1984 McDonalds Massacre. Footage of real victims injured and dead. Aftermath video. Dead bodies. It was 1984. Why can’t they just do this now? Show us Sandy Hook if it was real. I just don’t understand.
18 2018-01-14 by coach5280
1984 McDonalds Massacre. Footage of real victims injured and dead. Aftermath video. Dead bodies. It was 1984. Why can’t they just do this now? Show us Sandy Hook if it was real. I just don’t understand.
82 comments
1 canmodssuckdick 2018-01-14
Because it's absolutely horrifying. What's wrong with you? If your kid was brutally murdered, would you want their image spread around the world?
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
Yes I would. I would want to see it. And I would want to make people aware. How is it horrifying? It’s real life. This was 1984. We are much more desensitized now. I think it’s very crucial for footage.
1 perfect_pickles 2018-01-14
BS, no we are not, real tragedy and loss and grief is the same.
BS fakery elicits fake crying from the actors, and a total recognition from sober sane viewers.
Hollywood has to use 'empathy' psychological music to make their productions seem pretend real,
ever wonder why the fake support videos and TV productions that support the criminals of SHES and elsewhere also use the same sad music !?
1 fifteensunrises 2018-01-14
The fact that there are two teachers in this thread who support the Sandy Hook conspiracy narrative is absolutely horrifying.
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
Because as a teacher I know how this situation would be handled. And everything that has been shown and documented is not the way things get done. Nothing adds up.
1 fifteensunrises 2018-01-14
What concrete, tangible part about the shooting doesn't add up?
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
He first reply says it all to start.
1 fifteensunrises 2018-01-14
Pics of Sandy Hook in operation:
http://archive.is/61f9M
http://archive.is/FH27V
Testing results:
http://www.localschooldirectory.com/public-school/16596/CT
Now deceased principal's Twitter account showing the school open:
https://twitter.com/DHochsprung/status/275948953642602497/photo/1
State education reports:
http://www.newtown.k12.ct.us/Portals/Newtown/District/docs/Facilities/School%20Facilities%20Survey/ED050-SANDY%20HOOK.pdf
So that point is completely false. Is there any reason to go on if the first point is outright false?
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
2010 huh? Aren’t you the same guy that posts this on every Sandy Hook thread? This isn’t even about SH other than the fact show some fucking dead bodies like they do at real murders.
1 fifteensunrises 2018-01-14
This is the first time I've ever posted regarding this.
Glad you've already dismissed any evidence and blindly believe the claims of somebody who agrees with you though.
December 4th, 2012:
https://twitter.com/DHochsprung/status/275948953642602497/photo/1
Keep trying.
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
Your pics were from 2010. I’ve been down this road. I know what I believe. You should look up actual evidence.
1 fifteensunrises 2018-01-14
December 4th, 2012:
https://twitter.com/DHochsprung/status/275948953642602497/photo/1
Was included in my first post. You glazed over it because it didn't meet your already determined conclusions.
I just showed you evidence and you couldn't even correctly discern what year it was from even when it was clearly labeled.
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
A twitter post is evidence? How do we know that picture is even of the so called “school”? Also I do things with my life. I can’t sit on my computer all day like you in your moms basement. I’m on mobile and busy. Start your own thread discrediting the conspiracy.
1 fifteensunrises 2018-01-14
It was from the principal of the school.
You really need to get better at researching and investigating evidence. Hopefully it will lead you to do something better than belittle people online when you've demonstrated to be incapable of correctly analyzing information and asking for pictures of dead children.
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
I can make a fake account right now and do the same.
1 fifteensunrises 2018-01-14
Your goalposts are moving so quickly they defy the laws of physics.
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
Go and look online and you would find thousands of pictures where I teach and hundreds from just this last week. How come I only see the same few repeated from SH?
1 fifteensunrises 2018-01-14
Here are hundreds more for you:
https://archive.is/jGVvh
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
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1 IITheGoodGuyII 2018-01-14
The only response left when you get shut down with evidence at every turn.
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
You know how many different schools I visit each year? I can take pics at any of them claiming it to be my own. Show me some dead bodies.
1 fifteensunrises 2018-01-14
Perfect, with your vast experience you look at the reviews of the school that I provided to you from state administrators and will be able to understand that the school was open.
1 SloppySniper 2018-01-14
They made her up, of course they created a back story.
1 fifteensunrises 2018-01-14
The point was about evidence for the school being open.
1 drrew76 2018-01-14
They absolutely do not regularly show dead bodies of any kind of local, national, or cable news.
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
They did. I just watched it.
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
FFS they showed Vietnam as it happened.
1 iBrarian 2018-01-14
Go figure, public taste and decency standards have changed since Vietnam.
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
Go figure. You’re a douchebag.
1 iBrarian 2018-01-14
hurr durr durr
But I guess that proves my point is valid, since you couldn't counter it without an ad hominem.
1 SloppySniper 2018-01-14
Fucking Sandy Hook Official Story expert just popping up outta nowhere...
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
Lol. Fuck off fag.
1 Balthanos 2018-01-14
Removed. Rule 1
Removed. Rule 10
1 fifteensunrises 2018-01-14
TIL being able to do the most basic research makes a person an "expert".
1 IITheGoodGuyII 2018-01-14
Take a step back and look at yourself. This is disgusting. I hope you hold yourself to a higher standard when teaching.
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
This has nothing to do with how I teach. This is a lie. This is no where near what we are taught for these situations. Also if you have any male on staff with any balls he will try and stop the shooter.
1 IITheGoodGuyII 2018-01-14
This is the opposite of what they teach. It's "Run, Hide, Fight".
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
Ya. No shit that’s what they teach. I said if you had balls you won’t go down without a fight. You have no balls.
1 IITheGoodGuyII 2018-01-14
When you said teacher, are you just some PE coach or something?
You shoot back with insults straight from 8th grade. Nice job but those don't really stick anymore.
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
Let me guess. You got picked on in school and didn’t go to the prom and now you’re a tough guy on the keyboard.
1 IITheGoodGuyII 2018-01-14
Because I called you out for being an animal demanding they broadcast bodies of dead children on cable news?
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
I’m just saying show some actual proof. All the proof I’ve r ad and seen points the other direction.
1 IITheGoodGuyII 2018-01-14
The other guy that replied to you already shut you down with pictures and evidence. You claimed everything he present was faked with no justification, called someone else a fag, and tried to insult me as well. All of this without providing any of this proof you claim to have read.
If you want your theory to be taken seriously then actually present something and act like an adult.
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
It’s presented all over the internet. I’m not going to sit here and do research for you.
1 IITheGoodGuyII 2018-01-14
Then you’ll forgive me for not taking you seriously.
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
Idc what you do. The point of this post was it’s very easy to document horrific acts. Yet in recent history things always seem to be missing.
1 IITheGoodGuyII 2018-01-14
And they are documented. But the gore and tragedy doesn’t need to be displayed and glorified. Again, the other poster showed you the documentation disproving your claims. He presented his research which you refuse to do.
1 anthrolookseee 2018-01-14
Wolfgang Halbig, a former educator, US Customs agent and Florida state trooper has looked into this heavily. I suggest looking him up and listening to his massive list of legitimate red flags regarding the sandy hook event. He also has been an official investigator for other school shootings (I believe he was an investigator for Columbine) and in those instances, everything added up. It’s only this school shooting which he firmly believes things were very off. His list of “red flags” regarding this event is massive and way too long to write up here. But if you google him, you can hear him speak on it.
1 perfect_pickles 2018-01-14
what made me giggle is the male hero teacher from SHES, the one with the Xmas tie, wanted to keep on working with children (4th graders).
trouble is his Linkedin webpage has "Teacher Sandy Hook research" as occupation.
the dude openly works in marketing in CT.
his brief role (as a named teacher) in newspapers and TV in the SHES drama was a vanity appearance.
1 polkadotgirl 2018-01-14
So, when I first heard about Sandy Hook, I was devastated. Hearing about school shootings always hits me hard as a teacher. I think I even cried. Just terrible.
A year after that, my dad showed me a video of the crying dad. I mean that did not prove Sandy Hook was fake or something to me, but it triggered something.
One day, I decided to search for every news article and video about Sandy Hook I could find. My world crumbled. While I was always somewhat of a conspiracy theorist, this got me down the rabbit hole.
1) The dilapidated school and inactive school website were enough to raise my suspicions. No school (even in a terrible area) would be allowed to look or operate like that.
2) I have, unfortnately, have had experiences with the death of students. The parents were distraught beyond measure. While I cannot say how anybody should properly mourn, those parents certainlu raised suspicions in going on live televisjon to discuss the death of their children. I do not even think I could get out of bed if my dog died.
3) There were definitely some more severe gun laws following Sandy Hook, and a few of the parents used their experience to politicize.
4) Gene Rosen. That is all.
5) The guy who dealt with the bodies (medical examiner) was extremely suspicious. They would ask him questions and his answers were inconsistent or he "did not know."
6) Any talk questioning the narrative was shut down. If you asked questions, you were labeled as crazy and unsympathetic.
Look, in the end we will never really know the truth, but that event just had so many suspicioys things that do not tie together.
Ill update my list as I think of things.
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
I am also a teacher. And I share your beliefs and have dealt with grieving families.
1 polkadotgirl 2018-01-14
It is something I wish no one to experience.
1 mastigia 2018-01-14
Now that I have a bit more of a personal experience with grief, I have a different take on the parents in the videos. I can't say for sure, I am not those people, everyone surely experiences grief somewhat differently. But those people are not grieving remotely in a way I would expect, knowing what I do now. It is not even close.
1 polkadotgirl 2018-01-14
And not one tear was shed. In all the videos I watched, I have yet to find a parent shed tears (they did all the motions of crying without tears).
1 mastigia 2018-01-14
Yep. I'll tell ya what even 2 weeks later, when we get to talking about her. I lose it, I'm inconsolable, I am overcome and unable make words anymore. Or it takes me a long time to choke out any kind of response to people. And I cry a lot. Even as a guy, and I'm 40, we don't make tears as easily. But the tears pour out.
1 CasinoReality117 2018-01-14
Hope you're coping well mastigia. Sorry for your loss. This comment might not be of any help but I found this coping technique (that I've used for years) to help significantly (after) the severe mourning period (of letting the sadness out of the system through reflection, crying, stillness, etc.) But after that....
Imagine your lost loved one never actually left but is in a different country, for a reason: e.g. spontaneous roadtrip, business trip, vacation, archaelogical journey in Egypt, touring as a musician (with your blessings), lost their way and finding their way back to you eventually, etc. a positive story helps more.
Of course there's the spiritual route too, but I'm knowledgable on it.
Just thought I'd share a coping mechanism. Hope this helps man.
1 Aye_or_Nay 2018-01-14
A friend say the very same thing about these people on television crime shows, when the suspect is going over the false story of how they lost a loved one (when they're involved) - No tears. Crying without tears is body language gone awry - the tears come first, the blubbering and stuttering, not the other way around and then some tissue dabbing nonsense.
Some of the crisis videos are contrived.
Gene Rosen? Come on... Really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKPwcPk2x2M
1 anthrolookseee 2018-01-14
Their grieving process was definitely far from the norm. If that was the only info to go on that was out of the norm, I would dismiss the idea of a conspiracy here, but their strange grieving with everything else makes conspiracy look very possible to me.
The one dad during the press conference only hours after his daughter’s death... it just makes no sense. If he here a sociopath/psychopath he might not actually be upset about his daughters death the way a neuro-typical person would be, but he still would want to put on a show for those around him, not just when the cameras come on. Telling jokes and laughing while walking up to the podium hours after his child was shot multiple times resulting in her death is truly a huge red flag.
1 killthemessenger2017 2018-01-14
[Sandy Hook Crime Scene Photos Show School Was Decrepit: Interview with Wolfgang Halbig] (Sandy Hook Crime Scene Photos Show School Was Decrepit: Interview with Wolfgang Halbig )
1 SloppySniper 2018-01-14
Total hoax. Anyone who investigates with an open mind will come to the same conclusion. You are not alone.
1 perfect_pickles 2018-01-14
initially there was some pathetic Tripod style school website, with 80 staff members listed for the 400/600 odd students.
likely part of the script for planning the hoax and never meant to be seen live.
1 anthrolookseee 2018-01-14
I had a similar experience with this conspiracy theory as well. I went into it not thinking I would end up believing it was a conspiracy, but after everything... and boy is there so much to question, so much weird shit that does not make sense... I can’t help but think that event was probably staged or at least the truth heavily altered in some way.
1 DontTreadOnMe16 2018-01-14
Even Obama did the fake tear wipe when speaking about it.
1 polkadotgirl 2018-01-14
Haha I remember that!
1 BennyOcean 2018-01-14
When you say 'the crying father' do you mean Robbie Parker, who was laughing as he was walking up to the mic? That was the oddest bit of video I've found surrounding the Sandy Hook incident.
1 polkadotgirl 2018-01-14
Yup!! So weird!!! He was doing some acting stuff
1 Heavenli 2018-01-14
I think I am probably about 90 percent positive sandy hook was a hoax, mainly due to how the parents acted if anything else. The only thing I don’t get is the school not being in use. Surely if that building had not been operating at a school the local residents would know this and would speak out. That is the only part of this conspiracy that I don’t get and if someone can enlighten me feel free.
1 polkadotgirl 2018-01-14
There is a theory the whole town was in on it and some sort of CIA haven
1 Goilers497 2018-01-14
What’s more believable a mentally unstable kid killed a bunch of little kids or the government set up a fake shooting that had to have thousands of people in on it and that didn’t accomplish anything. For a conspiracy like this to work than something would have had to come from it but nothing happened. What would be he point of setting something like this up it just makes zero sense.
1 polkadotgirl 2018-01-14
Well there are many theories. First, let us start with desensitization
1 ogrelin 2018-01-14
“I could not fathom...”
1 rpm3311 2018-01-14
One thing that always bothers me about the theory of the school not being real, whats keeping someone from that town, from just coming out and saying that school doesnt exist or hasnt been used in X amout of years?
1 polkadotgirl 2018-01-14
Good question
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
Just see the first reply in this thread to begin with. Then we can go from there. Things before and after the shootings sure are interesting.
1 SloppySniper 2018-01-14
it wasn't real. Nor vas San Bern, Boston, or Orlando.
1 zombie_dave 2018-01-14
None of these phoney fake shows are real.
1 aleksh3009 2018-01-14
noone wants to see pictures of their dead children spread on the internet.
1 DontTreadOnMe16 2018-01-14
Except when it's a picture of some refugee kid that was killed in a bombing by some government that we want to invade, in which case that child's photo stays at the top of r/all for 3 days.
1 SammySquarledurMom 2018-01-14
There are gore fans. Websites like BestGore.
I mean, ya kids are sadder. But, in the end, gore fans don't discriminate
1 coach5280 2018-01-14
Hahahahaha The poor kid with glasses getting left out of all the fun.
1 Aye_or_Nay 2018-01-14
Vegas brings everything into serious doubt.
Almost all information is being digitized, massaged, and/or managed.
A calculable, yet not fully disclosed, amount of information from Facebook, Instagram, Google, Icloud, Reddit, (and others) is being assessed to measure public opinions, societal reactions, and for marketing global goods and services.
Accidental North Korean Air Raids in Hawaii and no clarification for over 1/2 an hour?
Who wouldn't be doubtful? What's next?
1 liljoeyk 2018-01-14
They had a school psychologist on staff. Black mold and rusty door hinges and gross landscaping .... but paid a psychologist. Yeeeeah
1 IITheGoodGuyII 2018-01-14
The only response left when you get shut down with evidence at every turn.
1 IITheGoodGuyII 2018-01-14
And they are documented. But the gore and tragedy doesn’t need to be displayed and glorified. Again, the other poster showed you the documentation disproving your claims. He presented his research which you refuse to do.